Hi guys
I've read a few similar requestes from others regarding playing .avi files on XDA/MDA pocket PC.
I have quite a few full length films in .avi format, abot 700mb each.
What software can I use to play these on my MDA3? I have a 1Gig SD card so shouldn't be a problem storing them.
I tried RealPlayer for pocket PC but that wouldn't play them. I have seen mention of BetaPlayer. Did a search for that and found 1000's of hits but none I downloaded would install!!!
Any help appreciated
John
i never had any problems with beta player
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1080
make sure it's arm / xcale you get
I'm using v0.04 and find it very good. I use the vidx codec for encoding rather than divx - should be in nemo codec pack. Though you might have problems playing AVIs intended for the desktop - I encode the AVIs for PPC with a max res at 320x240. Though to be honest I don't think I've tried to play desktop AVIs on my PPC.
Cheers guys,
I can get to the site http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1080 no problem BUT when I click <Download ( ARM/XSCALE )> I get a message saying hang on 3 seconds and you'll be redirected but it never happens!
It may be a problem my end as I have noticed some problems acting some sites.
I'll search for it elsewhere.
Thanks
John
Attached is v0.04 that I downloaded a while back
I convert them to WMV using Windows Media Encoder (free download from Windows Media area of MS Website) and just play them in WMPlayer on PPC.
Done a 300Mb AVI the other day, using the Pocket PC defaults option in WM Encoder, just changed the output resolution to 320x240 (XDAIIs Widescreen) and it compressed down to about 40Mb.
Perfect picture quality and Audio.
Thanks for the replies guys
How long did it take to re-encode the file down to 40Mb?
John
About 1hr, although this was on a not over powerful IBM laptop (P3 1Ghz 512mb ram)
I'm sure this would be cut down drastically on a decent desktop as the WMVEncoder seems to be quite CPU hungry
datasafe said:
I have quite a few full length films in .avi format, abot 700mb each.
John
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Your movies really shouldn't be that big.
Convert them to the right resolution for your PDA using Pocket DivX Player.
Perhaps they'll come to about 200MB.
Anyone can tell me which one is the best for us in term of file size, video and audio quality for PocketPC (especially O2 XDA II mini) device before I convert all my DVD to .mpg or to .wmf.
Thank you in advance
Arto.
Cheers again,
Yup, I did compress my avi files and ended up with just unde 200mb providing good quality when viewd on the MDA.
The conversion was quite quick - about 30mins or so, I was thinking it might have been an overnight job!
John
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hey guys... i need some help...what is the best way to convert videos,movies, etc for the pocket pc
Check this out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33945&highlight=
Hi
To play files, use TCPMP (The Core Pocket Media Player) - don't delay, install today: Get it for FREE from www.tcpmp.com
To encode files (just go for XviD if I were you) try Pocket DivX Encoder (Google for it) or even better the commercial version of this program 'Lathe' from www.Omniquiti.com - $7.95 is disgracefully cheap for what this program does - & does it effortlessly! Geez, it even converts DVD material at the click of a button & does it FAST (about an hour - believe me, that's FAST).
Andy
Yup pocket divx encoder is a hassle free way to convert films for your device. TCPMP is also an essential, if you want to view fullscreen.
Converted 4 dvds and 7 avi films last night and am happily watching some of them at work today. FYI Watching HOSTEL and re-engineering an ecommerce website don`t mix
LOL, It's called WORK....
You get PAID for it!!!!!
HOSTEL - I'll have to check that film out.... not heard of it.
Hello,
I purchased a NAS recently and have set about storing all my data. Also included in the upgrade were a new N router and N card for the laptop. The N stuff runs at 270Mbps which means I can now stream DVD/HD content onto my laptop (and a HD tele when I get one!). Anyways, I also convert DVDs to WMVs for my PDA, sad I know but I do it and use it.
So eventually I thought about about this; can I install a DVD player on my pda so I can stream it over my wifi network. I've looked all over the web and found nothing. Is there anyone out there with the same idea or least got a name of some DVD software for my PDA?
Cheers in advance...
Oh by the way, so far I must have at least 20-30 apps on my PDA and each one of them has been free, I would very much like to keep this record spotless!
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Hello,
I purchased a NAS recently and have set about storing all my data. Also included in the upgrade were a new N router and N card for the laptop. The N stuff runs at 270Mbps which means I can now stream DVD/HD content onto my laptop (and a HD tele when I get one!). Anyways, I also convert DVDs to WMVs for my PDA, sad I know but I do it and use it.
So eventually I thought about about this; can I install a DVD player on my pda so I can stream it over my wifi network. I've looked all over the web and found nothing. Is there anyone out there with the same idea or least got a name of some DVD software for my PDA?
Cheers in advance...
Oh by the way, so far I must have at least 20-30 apps on my PDA and each one of them has been free, I would very much like to keep this record spotless!
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windows media encoder can help you with the actual streaming, try it (should be free of charge).
now you need to think of something that will help encode your dvd into the media encoder, live of course.
will be happy to hear about the final solution you've found.
good luck...!
I cannot believe I got response so quickly! Only joined up recently but been reading this forum for a long time. I'll check out your suggestion shlomki and thanks for your quick response.
Ill post my findings, or further questions!
If Windows Media Encoder doesnt work, try VLC. www.videolan.org
Ok, so downloaded media player encoder, very confused but ran checkup utility and I do not have an appropriate dvd player on my laptop. My intervideo one started playing up so had to remove it. Now using AVSDVDPlayer. Moved on to VLC media player, thanks vlodeck for suggestion. Firslty the playback is much better than the AVSDVDPlayer, I struggled to broadcast a stream but I think I could sort it over time. I'll push on with that.
Still, I'm not quite sure these are the routes I want to take. I upgraded my PDA to wm6 recently and found I could no longer play my wmv's in TCPMP. After scouring through this forum I found all I needed to do was download these two DLL's and drop them into my windows folder on the PDA. Something to do with renaming codecs in wm6. I was hoping I could do this again, say download DVD codecs and drop them in the windows dir, then hoping to go to "open" and then be able to select a VOB file from either TCPMP or windowsmediaplayer.
The VLC method seems like I need to interact or at least save files that I wish to broadcast when really, I would just like to access VOB files on my NAS via the PDA with a vob player.
Any help and suggestions are more than welcome, either with what has been suggested already or new ones!
Cheers.
got the vlc player to broadcast so I can view the strem on my pc on wmp. the next problem i encounterd was on my ppc. used the same url on ppc wmp as pc one and no joy
anyone had this part working??
cheers
Hey guys!!
Just back my O2 Atom Exec and updated it to WM6. I have an extensive collection of loseless audio and i was curious as to which media player supports it. They are in a couple of format, with most of them being in .wv and .ape and the rest in .flac.
I have installed Coreplayer and Pocket Player 3.2 and tried .wv and .flac files.
Coreplayer plays .flac fine but the library kind of sucks and it ain't easy to browse through your collection of music. However, it wont detect the .wv file.
Pocket Player on the other hand simply wont work with either despite claiming on the website that it does. I have tried opening the .flac audio manually but the name of the song (time after time) becomes illegible (like with my chinese song) and when i try to play it, it doesnt work. It says the filetype is .mp3 but that is not true, it is actually .flac....what the?? Also tried to manually open .wv but doesn't work either
So i am confused as to which program actually does work with all the lossless format? Could someone enlgihten.
Btw i did find this link http://www.losslessaudioblog.com/2006/12/16/mobile-lossless-players/
that had all the supported player that claims to support loseless format.
Also, could someone explain why i cant read chinese/japanese filenames? Any fixs so i can see it properly on pocketplayer/coreplayer?
Common guys, as if no one prefers loseless over mp3..
Sorry mate, I used to play flac using TCPMP( free version of coreplayer) was impressed with the sound but not the size of the files. sticking to AACplus now, good luck
haha are you joking get a bigger memory card or one of those special mp3 player
the quality is just so much better
davidw89 said:
haha are you joking get a bigger memory card or one of those special mp3 player
the quality is just so much better
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Music file size ratio is generally a personal preference and you dont just go 'haha' on others preferences. If bigger memory card is not your problem, I'd guess you can always play the high quality lossless WAV on your WMPlayer
Anyway, not much help from me here, read on if you wish.
Anyway, as for lossless or not audio file format, I really wonder how much difference does it make. I personally can't really tell the difference as I'm using relatively low quality earphones and stuff, and consider I listen it when I'm on the move, where you get street noises and such (despite the noise isolation property of the earphones). So, it would be interesting if you were to do a blind test yourself on a relatively real environment. That, is to get a list of songs, say 10-20 songs, all both in the flac, and mp3 formats. Get a friend of you to play you these songs at random (using Coreplayer, which support both format), then you make a guess on which format the song is playing. Get a good number of samples and see if you score above 75%. If you score around 40-60%, chances are, you are thinking (mentally biased) that the sound is actually better than it is (e.g. due to the distortion of the A2D converter, crack in the shielding screen on your headphone, street noises, etc.). If you were to score 25% or lower, that's interestingly MP3 is better (much unlikely).
If you really do this, let me know the results Much eager to know it.
Problem for me is, I am the type who like to have just one device to rule "do" them all, that's why my lowly wizard does it all, my video player, music player, pda and telephone. I only got 2Gb but I got heaps of songs on it plus some movies.
AAc plus is good mate better than MP3 IMHO, I heard flac but the size is just not worth it.. and I don't clean my ears that often ;-) so why bother..
A lot of movies are coming out with digital copies & they are all in WMV format but our players don't support it.
I tried searching but all I found was the plugin for TCPMP, which didn't work too well. Anyway I would like to know if there is a plugin for WMP on our phones? I have a few of these digital copies & I would like to put them on my storage card for those boring days at work. If anyone has a plugin or a solution, I would really appreciate it.
Where are the movies?? Anyways, CorePlayer should play them, about $25 directly from CoreCodec, which should be cheap for you judging by your avatar !
What are you talking about? Windows Media Player plays WMV files. it's already on your phone.
DarrenUtd said:
What are you talking about? Windows Media Player plays WMV files. it's already on your phone.
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Talking about certain codecs not included in WMP, so you need a different player. Most videos can't be played through WMP.
Thanks for the reply. I was hoping to not have to buy anything new but you gotta do what you gotta do. Anyway, a new question... if I buy this coreplayer will it do everything tcpmp does or do I have to keep tcpmp on my Kaiser?
As far as the movies... I have Juno & AVPr right now but a lot of movies come with an extra disc right now that you can download it from... Look for it on the cover, it says digital copy right on it
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Thanks for the reply. I was hoping to not have to buy anything new but you gotta do what you gotta do. Anyway, a new question... if I buy this coreplayer will it do everything tcpmp does or do I have to keep tcpmp on my Kaiser?
As far as the movies... I have Juno & AVPr right now but a lot of movies come with an extra disc right now that you can download it from... Look for it on the cover, it says digital copy right on it
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Cool, I have to check out my friend's DVD collection . Anyways, CorePlayer does all the main functions of TCPMP, but a bit better, and I personally like the looks of it better. It has the YouTube function built-in, but currently you have a limited number of results, so if your looking for a specific video, you must type a lot. I use CorePlayer as my main video player, and still keep TCPMP with the FLV bundle to watch video directly from the web.
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Cool, I have to check out my friend's DVD collection . Anyways, CorePlayer does all the main functions of TCPMP, but a bit better, and I personally like the looks of it better. It has the YouTube function built-in, but currently you have a limited number of results, so if your looking for a specific video, you must type a lot. I use CorePlayer as my main video player, and still keep TCPMP with the FLV bundle to watch video directly from the web.
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Sweet I been reading up on it since you suggested it & I'm sold on it now. Thanks I hope it plays these movies. I'll let you know as soon as I got it all set up
WACK!!! Same thing as tcpmp... Granted, it looks better but its the same outcome. The video will start but it won't play. It starts loading & then it stays like that forever. Occassionally it plays a clip of the sound but only a fraction of a second
Any tips for the settings to change Champ?
Hi,
I want to enter da smartphonz world, and i'm makin a few research. About WP, I know the OS is completely locked up 'cause of M$, but I don't give a damn. Except on one point:
Is there applications which let me look at a .mkv video? And if I cannot, what happens with subs, especially .srt, and multiples soundtracks, Japanese/English/French as an example?
Thank you
For mkv files you'll need to convert them to mp4 and as for subs you'll need them merged into the video for it to be able to be seen on WP7
Okay.
So disappointing....
Android, here I come!
The lack of most common video codecs/container on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv container... etc???! .... What a shame.
Still hoping for it
Sent from my LG-E900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
You can sync nearly everything through zune...
But that's the only thing you can do atm...
But keep being positive: 'cuz cotulla and other devs working to unlock the phone in a way that we can write native apps and that would open the possibility to port other music/video player which include support for other codecs
arturobandini said:
The lack of most common video codecs on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv... etc???! .... What a shame.
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I have flv working. I am making a browser which will let you play megavideo files. I plan to include more video sites. It works quite well... Ill open a thread soon with more info
Chabun and Marvin, thank you. Hope isn't lost
But M$ stays M$: they will probably never support officially an open-source codec. Even iOS can play mkv, using alternative players.
I'm gonna search the web to find lore about Cotulla
since when is mkv a codec? MKV is a container, usually containing a non-open codec (h.264), which MS supports. All they need to do is support the container...
arturobandini said:
The lack of most common video codecs on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv... etc???! .... What a shame.
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Don't mix up containers and codecs, it's a different kind of things
BTW, for containers Silverlight has a great feature, custom container parser, called MediaStreamSource. So nobody preventing you from writing your own container support including Matroska (.mkv)
But WP7 video codecs are really limited to: MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 part 10 (H.264), WMV9, H.263, and of course, raw RGB (you may implement your own decoding however w/o hardware acceleration it will be very slow/not possible).
sensboston said:
Don't mix up containers and codecs, it's a different kind of things
BTW, for containers Silverlight has a great feature, custom container parser, called MediaStreamSource. So nobody preventing you from writing your own container support including Matroska (.mkv)
But WP7 video codecs are really limited to: MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 part 10 (H.264), WMV9, H.263, and of course, raw RGB (you may implement your own decoding however w/o hardware acceleration it will be very slow/not possible).
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You are right
I am not a developer. All I need is a native Avi player. I think it's the minimum I can expect from a smartphone nowadays.
Even my all business Blackberry Bold can read Avi movie files. Just a drag & drop via USB cable and I can watch my movies
With WP7 (and Zune) it's a mess and a waste of time.
Sometimes WP7 seems really hopeless...
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Even my all business Blackberry Bold can read Avi movie files. Just a drag & drop via USB cable and I can watch my movies
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I understand your point. However why do not use a streaming video?
Instead "just drag&n&dropping" 4-6 GB HD movies in .mkv (what is not "just" but takes a veeeeery looooong time ) you may instantly transcode and watch video. AFAIK there are few existing solutions on marketplace (I do have my own - much-much better than existing apps but unpublished and still under very slow development - I'm implementing Mango features such as background queue downloader etc.)
The cons is - you need a powerful desktop PC/notebook, always on, to serve streaming but the pros is -you'll have your very own streaming server, transcode can be done in realtime (even for full HD movies!)
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Sometimes WP7 seems really hopeless...
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I don't think so. Seems like MS have a "gradual" strategy to open new API's and features; also, xda whitehats working hard to build "freedom" ROM's for WP7 (probably, someone can port good native arm wince videoplayer).
Srsly, I don't understand what you mean. Do you want to stream movies just like cloud music, like a "mediaplayer dropbox"?
Don't you know that most carriers don't offer unlimited data plans? And in order to stream Full HD files, you need 4G don't you?
On board medias will be outdated one day, sure, but not now, unfortunately.
If I misunderstood your speech, just tell me
And thank you all for your explanation about the differences between codecs and containers, that was really useful.
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If I misunderstood your speech, just tell me
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You misunderstood me completely
First (fortunately) WP7 is not limited to 3G connection only: there are WiFi and Ethernet (via USB).
Second, I already stream movies like "cloud music" Technically it works like: I have a "streaming server" (small WPF C# program, running on my home media server/player PC), and WP7 app, streaming video client (with ability to download and store media). PC program preforms a real-time "transparent" (on the fly) transcoding of medias, and "stream" (not a real stream of course) transcoded data to the WP7 player.
I don't have an unlimited data plan so my usual "scenarios" are:
- if I do have a WiFi access (most hotels/places etc.) I can easy browse media folders on my home PC and watch any movie;
- if I'm going somewhere without WiFi access (to the flight, campground, beach etc.) and want to watch movies, I've put some movies to the queue and download 'em via WiFi/Eth to the handset. Average size of 2 hours transcoded movie is about 600/800 Mb (actually it depends, what kind of adaptive stream mode I have chosen)
Average transocde frame rate (conversion speed) for the full HD video is about 90-110 fps on my PC. It's not too fast but I do have cache
So, in general my solution is useful and not so bad (I also have an Android tablets, with mounted network shares of my media folders. And most often, I can't play video because of player or network bandwidth limitation - full HD videos are huge!)
What is the usefulness of MKV beside pirating movies and tv shows? Tell me what do you mainly use MKVs for besize pirating?
If you can't afford netflix account and/or zune movies, then because you're either jobless or a pirating hoohaas.
Okay, I got it. A real player could be better, if I want to change options like subs or everything else while playing on my phone, but the "screen capture" erases all the troubles about codecs and co.
Other issue is the time spoilt because of the conversion on the computer, and not "live" on the phone. And it depends on your PC CPU, not on the smartphone processing unit. But you problably increase the battery life of the phone, don't you?
That's awesome, yep
Do we have CorePlayer & TCMP player on WP7
to play Videos ?
are there more players like these
where when we stop a video continues
from the exact place again ?
Thanks
stan2, we are talking about video player solution, not about piracy. Please stay on topic (of course if you have something to say)...
stan2 said:
What is the usefulness of MKV beside pirating movies and tv shows? Tell me what do you mainly use MKVs for besize pirating?
If you can't afford netflix account and/or zune movies, then because you're either jobless or a pirating hoohaas.
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Well you're right. I'm legally pirating contents not available in my area. This isn't an excuse, I know, but honestly, what should I do? I buy what I can buy: movies, music thanks to Amazon (I can waste around 100 bucks a month that way). But when it comes to underground japanese animation, whitout any official translation or dubbed version, the only way is mkv.
Edit: TV show? I don't watch this kind of crap, ty.
ilordvader said:
Do we have CorePlayer & TCMP player on WP7
to play Videos ?
are there more players like these
where when we stop a video continues
from the exact place again ?
Thanks
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That IS the subject of this thread
And no, we don't have anything like that. TCMP is on WM.