Please enter this poll its about BT HandsFree - General Topics

well the poll is pretty clear i personally try on daily bases things like registry tweaks or play with widcomm or some other stuff but offcourse no luck yet
PS. when i say handsfree i mean hands free like
1) Voice Command Activation
2) Number Apearing on the BT headset
3) Diverting all audio to the BT Headset & not only phone call
4) any other functionality that i missed
i'de be gratefull if every one listed if he succesed in any of the above points

in vain, am losing hope, any leads or finding from other people?

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bonding xda2 and bt headset

been busy with work so this is actually my first free time to personalize my xda2. i'm almost done but what's puzzling me is the bluetooth configuration.
i followed the instructions for both the xda2 and jabra headset for bonding. no problems so far but what's puzzling me is how to use the headset now that they're bonded. i tried testing it by pressing on the headset once...but no 2 blips sounded. or by activating the media player, but still no luck.
what am i doing wrong or am i not doing something which i'm supposed to?
thanks for any help you can give
robson
headset profile is only for phone usage. u can't use it for anything else. i have hbh-65 and as long as headset is on and call comes in it goes to bluetooth and rings
alex
hey thanks! and all the while i thought i was doing something wrong. do i leave the bluetooth setting mode to "on"? and when a call comes in, the phone rings and i can hear it immediately through the bt headset? do i need to press any buttons on the headset to activate it or is it automatic (i can answer right away)?
i guess i got used to having the bluetooth adaptor plugged to my old xda that i'm still looking for those 2 blips whenever i depress the bt headset button.
cheers
robson
answered my own question
hey kalex, please disregard my previous post; i guess i just answered my own inquiries about the blue tooth bonding thing by using my landline and calling my mobile. the bt works great between the phone and the headset; when the mobile rang it immediately sounded off in my headset; just needed to press the button once to activate it. thanks a bunch!
cheers mate
robson
hey kalex or whoever can help out; the bluetooth headset works well when the phone rings and i take the call. however; how do you use the bt headset when you want to make an outgoing call?
cheers
robson
man, you really need to read the manual.
As the manual states, the jabra headset supports voice dialing.... only by default the XDA-II does not. You'd need to look at the various voice dial packages and see about getting that to work with the headset.... I dont fancy your chances... on the other hand maybe someone has already done this?
sorry dude; like i said i was a little busy with work so you'll have to pardon my excitement of fooling around with the xda...not to mention skipping the part about the manual
cheers mate
robson
I recently got an xda 2 and am buying a jabra 250. i presume that i'll need some voice software to make this totally hands free. or is this not the case.
any comments welcome :?:
I think the voice dial and headset issue is down to the headset BT profile that the XDA-II has plus the voice dial software supporting it.....
its muddy as hell, maybe someone else has a better idea. If I were you I'd find the voice dial software (there is plenty about) and then ask the authors for their recommendations.
voice software
Hello,
I can only say "me to" - I have HDW-2 Nokia headset but still looking for the voice software. I have tryied MS voice and I can say - forget the Microsoft voice - it is only dialing 7 or 10 digits numbers and trying to recognize the names - as most of my entries have non english names it does not work at all. I would rather have simple dialing digit-by-digit or nokia style recognition of the voice marks.
luk
okay, we had both thursday and friday off as holidays here in thailand; which gave me enough time to finally read the manual cover to cover. and i still have a question; you guys will have to forgive me but i need to clarrify something.
when receiving a call the sound is automatically directed to the bt headset. i can either manually accept the call or use the "answer call after this number of rings" function. no problems there so far.
my question goes back to making a call using the bt headset without the aid of any voice dial apps. when you dial a number and send it; can the bt headset still be used? or is it purely for incoming calls? i read the manual (both for the xda2 and the bt headset) and it doesn't say anything about this.
you'll have to excuse my persistence as i really don't know the answer to this one. neither the manuals nor the devices show the answer. perhaps some friendly chaps from the site can help as well?
cheers
robson
Robson said:
okay, we had both thursday and friday off as holidays here in thailand; which gave me enough time to finally read the manual cover to cover. and i still have a question; you guys will have to forgive me but i need to clarrify something.
when receiving a call the sound is automatically directed to the bt headset. i can either manually accept the call or use the "answer call after this number of rings" function. no problems there so far.
my question goes back to making a call using the bt headset without the aid of any voice dial apps. when you dial a number and send it; can the bt headset still be used? or is it purely for incoming calls? i read the manual (both for the xda2 and the bt headset) and it doesn't say anything about this.
you'll have to excuse my persistence as i really don't know the answer to this one. neither the manuals nor the devices show the answer. perhaps some friendly chaps from the site can help as well?
cheers
robson
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just try it! You have to use that little green button to make the call, but then the call is treansferred to the headset.
to: [email protected]
ah, after a little more research in the forum based from your response; i finally got the bonding issue nailed to the ground! what i did was delete the bond between the xda2 and the bt; i then rebonded them and now it's working properly. cheers!
robson

BT Headset w/caller ID and XDA II/IMate PPC

In reviewing the forums, I am unable to find a "straight" answer (at least one I can understand), about whether *ANY* BT headset with caller ID will fully work with the XDA II (or in my case, the IMATE PPC).
My configuration:
Imate PPC (XDA II)
ROM: 1.72.00WWE (3/15/04)
Radio: 1.14.00
Protocol: 1337.24
ExtROM: 1.72.800
I am running Pocket Bluetooth Tools V1012 (also tried 1100).
Can anyone tell me if the Sony-Ericsson HBH-660 or any other caller-ID enabled BT headset will properly display the caller number and/or name with the above hardware/software profile?
I know for sure that the Jabra BT800 will NOT. The headset works (actually, works great... good reception!), but the caller ID does not work.
Thanks in advance!
-Kevin.
Hi,
There are many ways to get the Bluetooth with Caller ID works on the PPC. The trick is that the Caller ID needs a Hands Free profile, which is not standard in the PPC. After using one of these ways, you will end up having the the caller number only appears, but no names. If this is what you want, I can tell you how it could be done.
Hi Waladany,
Yes, I would be very interested in knowing how to get it to work. A number (without name), is perfectly acceptable. I still have the Jabra BT800 headset for about 6 more days before I must return it for a refund, so I can use it to test.
Thanks in advance.
-Kevin.
Jabra BT800 and Caller ID and XDAII WM2003SE
I would also be VERY interested in how to get this to work... Thx...
Ok Guys, here are what i got.
You have two ways:
1- Install the merged rom made by sin (you can find it in the forum), as it includes the bluetooth fix. ( This is what I tried)
2-a- Install the Bluetooth Handsfree fix, I will attach it for you. After installing both updates, you should try to bond with the Headset. you should be receiving the message telling you that this is a Hands Free Device (Yes or No). You better say yes. If you said No, another message pop up twice asking if it is a Handset Device.
2-b- As a test, if you already have the headset bonded, you can go to the devices screen in bluetooth. Click and hold on the device, you should see a shortcut menu with the option "set as Hand Free". Try to select and test the Hands Free
waladany said:
1- Install the merged rom made by sin (you can find it in the forum), as it includes the bluetooth fix. ( This is what I tried)
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I have the merged ROM by Sin, but still experience the same microphone issues. The CallerID works great, but the microphone on the headset is not active. Both the speaker and microphone on the XDA-II are operating.
waladany said:
2-a- Install the Bluetooth Handsfree fix, I will attach it for you. After installing both updates, you should try to bond with the Headset. you should be receiving the message telling you that this is a Hands Free Device (Yes or No). You better say yes. If you said No, another message pop up twice asking if it is a Handset Device.
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Are you referring to the registry fix? I think that just makes you able to select hands-free at all. It doesn't fix the microphone problem.
The only thing I've heard that works is the 2.20 Chinese version. But I'm pretty happy with the Sin version. I wish we could find a quick fix for it.
If I've missed a new BT fix from Sin, please post the link here.
Thanks
bt
no way no how will BT CID work fully on even 2.20!! It sucks.
On 2005 it works FLAWLESSLY. But there are bugs on 2005, lack of mem, contacts and email database are new so will not work with many third party software, etc.
Even if you add the reg key "HadsfreeProfileOn", (Sins fix), or have any BT stack or even pray to the bluetooth God, your ****ed on 2.02 - 2.06.
2.20 is ****ty.. If I receive another call while using handsfree, even if I do not answer it, I loose all sound and mic ON BOTH until I click on Tools, Hands free off and then again tools hands free on.
Sometimes the mic - duel speaker things comes back and you have to reboot.
I wrote more here http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...ghlight=&sid=a355793d319af7acb15784f153f9d7f1
Also, stay posted here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=19128 we may get help.

Maybe a fix for BT caller ID devices and Hands Free!!

I think I found a fix for the BT Hands Free not working the way it should.. I can even use call waiting now and it does not kill the mic when I switch back to the first call..
I set the phone settings to automatically pick up after one ring.. No, it will not automatically pick up after one ring but, now I am getting the name to display in the caller ID field of my xLive mp3-BT headset. and it is working consistently.. I HAVE NEVER gotten it to work consistently before.. NEVER. i will try it with my Jabra BT800 later too.
I think it makes a "deeper" or better connection by making the phone try and make the BT headset device automatically answer???
I am using 2.20 OS and it is the only one that I have found to work, (not fully but it does work BETTER), please try this with other Hands Free devices like car kits and HBH660 etc.. Also try this with 2.02 and 2.06
COOL!!!
...and what's the improvement for handsfree?
thanx
buzz
In depth
With 2.02 or 2.06 or the Sin's merged OS, ANY BT headset device or car kit device that needs to use the Hands Free profile, the mic does not work on the device and there is sound that comes out of the XDAII speaker and only the mic on the XDAII works.
People can not hear you when the only mic that is working is on your phone..
Now on the 2.20 translated OS, Hands Free profile does work BETTER. It does not work fully! The caller ID is not displayed right all the time and the most frustrating part is, when the phone receives a call on call waiting, you can switch over to the other call BUT when you switch back, it acts like 2.20-2.06 and the mic only works on the phone, not on the BT device and both the speakers are going giving you a "stereo" affect.
Well, why not just use the Headset Profile you ask???
I LOVE the ability to be able to scroll through my recent call list, see who is calling via the small caller ID display on my BT device and make phone calls... ALL without having to open up my PDA case or look around for my briefcase and find my XDAII.
I have all the power of a regular phone on my ear or around my neck.
BT devices that need to use Hands Free profile are ones like the BT800
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=BT800
or The HBH 660
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=114271
or the new one that has not been released with the only difference of it has a battery life display too.
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=118678
xLive
do a search at http://www.expansys.com/ for xlive.
The xLive MP3 player - Hands Free phone device also allows me to punch in the numbers with the little joy stick and make a call. (It has other bugs though. Wait until a newer version than 1.23c comes out. They still have the old version listed. http://www.alfa-tech.com.hk/index_download.html )
Other devices that require Hands Free profile, are devices like Car Kits..
They require Hands Free profile so the caller ID is displayed and and other more robust feature can be activated.
Headset profile does not support caller ID nor other more powerful features.
My fix...
With the Hands Free profile, and setting the phone to auto answer after one ring, the caller ID is displayed with the name if it is in your contacts AND most importantly, the duel speaker and only mic on the XDAII thing does not happen when you receive another call and switch back to the original call. :lol: :wink:
ccrrazzzy said:
... i will try it with my Jabra BT800 later too.
I think it makes a "deeper" or better connection by making the phone try and make the BT headset device automatically answer???
I am using 2.20 OS and it is the only one that I have found to work, (not fully but it does work BETTER), please try this with other Hands Free devices like car kits and HBH660 etc.. Also try this with 2.02 and 2.06
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Did you try this with BT800 yet?
What were the results?
Thanks

[found!] Stereo headset (re)connection app requested !

Solution found: use battery status. In its last builds it has an option to enable A2DP directly by pressing BT tray icon
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Hi mates,
Does everybody has the same problem with BT profiles ?
It goes well from stereo (listening music) to headset (calling) profile, when a call is incoming. But when the call is ended, or if you disabled bluetooth meanwhile (or turned off the headset), you must go to BT options, devices, then tap 'n hold the headset and set it as wireless stereo. Quite a long operation for a simple task, I had in mind that someone could write a cmd-line app which would do this ?
I had once a rom/a2dp patch/reg values combination that worked well with calls ending -> music goes on. But thus it didn't automatically connect the headset (as wireless stereo) on first start. Maybe this is by design, to avoid cutting off the sound coming out from the pda each time you activate BT, but it's annoying to me
So..... Am I the only one ?
Niko
ps: Vijay's VJVolubilis almost do this, but only for headset profile AFAIK
No, the 'not-returning a2dp club' is full of people... you can be the mr. president if you want...
I had the same problem. I returned my BT stereo headset because of the same problems. I'm done with A2DP.
FYI, I asked a few authors to check if they can do something about this.
So you may follow the development of those apps if you're interested in a one-click A2DP Stereo connection : AEBPlus, Battery Status and VJVolubilis.
I'll try to post again when something new is coming.
Ah... have any of you guys tried the later A2DP patches?
And why not just use the bluetooth button to reconnect wireless stereo?
I don't have any hardware button, nor any icon (except the one from battery status) associated to bluetooth. Would you please detail what you were talking about ? If it's an icon, could you try to extract the corresponding exe ?
I tried many A2DP patches, not sure if they are the latests or not, but none provided automatic stereo reconnection, at least when I just turned my headset (or bluetooth) on. Since I do that often....
I mean the button on your bluetooth headset. Click it once to connect; sometimes it needs another click to activate wireless stereo. I know not every headset supports this, but an A2DP headset should.
You might have to set wireless stereo once from the device, but after that, the headset should activate using its button the next time.
Resume problem should be fixed with the AKU3+ A2DP patches. Again, YMMV.
Note: Sorry for the double-post... site's really slow.
joe_dude said:
I mean the button on your bluetooth headset
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It doesn't have one..... it automatically connect, but in headset mode (phone), not stereo
I'll try to test with another one in a shop.
joe_dude said:
Resume problem should be fixed with the AKU3+ A2DP patches. Again, YMMV.
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Sorry but.... YMMV ? ^^
Didn't try AKU3.x yet, have you hear good reports from prophet users ? I haven't at that time..
I'll give it a try (or WM6) when my device will be back from warranty
See comment #26. Certainly not conclusive based on one report. I've never encountered the problem, so....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284344&page=3
It doesn't have a button? How does it answer phone calls then? Or the button pops up the phone app on the first press instead of just connecting?
The main button can answer calls, or end a current call.
Its second ability is to turn on/off the headset
I have AVRCP buttons for next/prev music operation, and one of them can dial the last number when pressed for a long time.
I guess I can also reject a call, can't remember how, but the connection thing is supposed to be automatic (Already tried to press buttons to check if it would (re)connect...)
Since it's kind of noname headset (CallStell), I won't even try to request help from them ^^
hum, that's it
ps: What does YMMV stands for ?
I'll give a try to that new patch. Interesting thread btw ! Can't read it completely by now, can I try that patch if I'm still on AKU2.x rom ?
Hmmm... my guess is that the power button or the call answer button should (re-) connect the headset once you have done it once manually ("set as wireless stereo"). Or maybe not.
There are two versions on that thread - one is from AKU 3.3, the other is from WM6. Not much difference between the two, but they are both better than the older Tornado patch in terms of compatibility, IMHO. Either can be used for any version of Prophet AKU 2.0 and up.
Oh, YMMV - your mileage may vary.
please explain more about installation.
where can i get ruu file for prophet?
meykou, just go through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284344
Makes a lot more sense if you read it from the beginning. Hard to explain otherwise.
joe_dude said:
Hmmm... my guess is that the power button or the call answer button should (re-) connect the headset once you have done it once manually ("set as wireless stereo"). Or maybe not.
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I once tried many A2DP patches/few rom versions and player combinations.
I got different results, few were very poor, most of 'em was pretty nice.
But it always missed at least 1 thing ^^
Either the sound quality, the resume-after-call or the sound-drop **** ^^
But I'm not sure anymore if I managed to get rid of the latter at least once.. but it was not that bad, one sound drop every 2 songs, for 1 or 2s., or so... still anoying, but usable.
Oh, and what I first wanted to say, I tried to reconnect via the main button, but no results. I should try with another headset, btw. What's yours ? And would you advise me to buy it ?
joe_dude said:
There are two versions on that thread - one is from AKU 3.3, the other is from WM6. Not much difference between the two, but they are both better than the older Tornado patch in terms of compatibility, IMHO. Either can be used for any version of Prophet AKU 2.0 and up.
Oh, YMMV - your mileage may vary.
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Oh, ok
I downloaded both of them, and will give a new try to every combination I can figure out as soon as I have more time.
Thanks for your answers btw. I'll keep posting if a software solution is found.
And I'm quite sure that meykou only wants a working-one-click-install WM6 rom
Well, good luck. I'm using the i.Tech R35, BTW.
A2DP + Prophet + Music resume
Wow! It works.
It took time for me to realise that it resumes music after a little pouse.
I need to push button only once to cancel the phone call.

navigation, a2dp, hands free - how to combine?

Hi there,
my next mobile phone is going to be a Topaz, but my question might apply to other devices as well.
Basically I want to feed a car radio via a2dp with music (coming from a microSD card inside the device) & navigation instructions (I prefer TomTom and Mobile Navigator, I have yet to decide which one to get in full version) and use the radio's hands free feature for phone calls.
The radio I might be getting is a Sony MEX-BT3600U (link).
My question is: how exactly do I get this scenario to work? I'm unsure whether the device has to "mute" the music and navigation instructions when calls come in or the radio uses different kinds of "channels" for a2dp and calls. Do the programs (music player and navigation) require certain functions to accomplish this?
Thanks for helping me out... and feel free to suggest other possibilities!
I have a similar, but older MEX BT deck from Sony, the MEX-BT5000. I will try to explain how it has worked with all of my WinMo devices (Hermes, Kaiser, Xperia).
It will auto pair with your device with both a standard cell phone and an A2DP connection. When using non-phone audio it will come out of your car speakers when you are in Bluetooth Audio input mode. Anytime there is a call or the phone functions are activated it will override the A2DP and you can accept the call and talk or send to voicemail. While the phone is in use normal audio will NOT come through the speakers. I think this is best because you wouldn't want TomTom yelling at everyone who calls you, or in my case have them hear my blaring music. Also the phone will override CD or Radio audio also, but A2DP will only come through when it is selected on the deck.
That's exactly what I wanted to know. Thank you!

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