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Hi people,
I know of pocket explorer, and the opera release, but is there any other webbrowsers out there that are any good?
What i am looking for is something like the iphones safari. That would be nice
Pocket Explorer
Opera
Deepfish - damn shame this was never continued!
Cheers

Opera have 2 releases, you didn't mention which one you have. Opera Mobile is one of them but its not free, its good for tabbed browsing and downloads but personally i can't get along with it as it runs slow on my handset and often has script errors, plus struggles with desktop pages and uses alot of data. Opera Mini is the other one and i personally think its amazing. You can load up full web pages quickly and easily and it allows you to zoom in and out of the pages so you can view them like you would on your desktop. It uses very low amounts of data so its cheap to use, plus its free to download.
I personally use opera on my handset as it works well with windows, its the best thing so far anyway.
If your thinking of something more along the lines of the safari (iphone) experience, there is nothing at this time that matches it exactly, but there are similar programs you can get hold of that have been around a little while like Picsel Browser. Which can load up full pages (but cost you alot of data), and renders the pages pretty well, plus you can scroll with your finger and zoom in and out of pages without a stylus. I used to use this browser but i'm now totally hooked on Opera Mini.
I'm sure there are some other browsers out there but these two i mentioned are the only 2 i consider worth mentioning.
PS. Deepfish is similar to Opera mini, its optimises pages server side to make them smaller (data wise anyway), but i think opera have stollen the game from microsoft, thus them stopping any more work on the project, from what we can see anyway!
Hope this all helps btw

Read by related articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers

Personally I don't use opera mini, because it doesn't come for the htc p4350, i can run the generic, but I have to startup java first, then opera, and with every text area (including adress) it opens a new typing window..

Mattijn106 said:
Personally I don't use opera mini, because it doesn't come for the htc p4350, i can run the generic, but I have to startup java first, then opera, and with every text area (including adress) it opens a new typing window..
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That's the same way it works on my wing. However, as I'm browsing from a phone, I really don't have the highest of expectations for my browsing experience, and all things considered, opera mini is the best option I've found thus far.

how do i get picsel..

Desiflare999 said:
how do i get picsel..
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search google. I tried to find a search term that linked to a site with picsel, but i couldnt find a term that worked. And no posting links to warez, so your only hope is google.... or pm me, and ill tell you my number to call me, and ill help you out...
Rory
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There's a lot more than just opera and ie, Picsel's the way to go.
leaskovski said:
Hi people,
I know of pocket explorer, and the opera release, but is there any other webbrowsers out there that are any good?
What i am looking for is something like the iphones safari. That would be nice
Cheers
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Look for Picsel browser, it works almost exactly as the iPhone safari, the zoom, the kinetic scrolling, all that stuff. Execpt it's made for only samsung phones so they don't make it availible for everybody. I have aa copy, but i don't think i can post it here. Type it in google, there a lot of them there. That's where i found mine. And by the way Picsel dosent just view web pages, it also views pictures, word, excel,pdf and powerpoint. Goodluck

leaskovski said:
Hi people,
I know of pocket explorer, and the opera release, but is there any other webbrowsers out there that are any good?
What i am looking for is something like the iphones safari. That would be nice
Pocket Explorer
Opera
Deepfish - damn shame this was never continued!
Cheers
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Ever thought about the FTX browser or Webby?

well..guys i got the file..but havent test it yet..well..atleast not yet..lolz jus typed in Picsel Browser 1.0.5 download..nd got it ;D

I tried Piscel and it was very snazzy, however, it does have some site limitations so it looks like the pay version of opera is the way to go.

Very Serious Bug With Slide Keyboard

Hi. I have purchased my HTC Pro recently and installed my most usufull programs. One of them is softmaker. I was really confused when couldn't have input any word in Plan Maker and Text Maker using built in keyboard. The same problem had with logmein remote control aplication. When connected to my PC thru HTC Pro I also couldn't have input any words using the slide keyboard. What's the problem? Have you experienced the same problem using these programs? The slide keyboard works when writing text messages so I suppose that the problem lies in OS.

dunno about softmaker, but had the same problem in log me in.
I noticed in log me in, that only the standard keyboard worked, and not any of the HTC qwerty t9 stuff.
Try setting the normal keyboard as the SIP and see if it comes back to life. I've a nasty feeling that the T9 is interfering...

Same here for LogMeIn... I was kinda shocked that the hardware keyboard didn't work... But the regular soft keyboard works. I have posted on the LogMeIn forums (there were already posts there from people with the Diamond with the same problem). I'm hoping they'll fix this, I'd love to be able to use LogMeIn for work... I work on a mainframe, so text input is kinda important...

I had the same problem with Softmaker Office 2006. I've downloaded the 2008 demo version, it works fine with the keyboard (at least you can use it for 30 days!).
So I've emailed Softmaker support, I don't want to upgrade at least until they handle Office 2007 file format, there is not much new in this 2008 version. Let's see what they say...

Have problems same too with DOSBox.
And also when I type with the keyboard in TomTom it adds a an a with a round on the top after each letter typed.

Me too
Sad to say, having the same keyboard issue with logmein service (rather disappointing). Maybe I have to switch back to the Dopod 838Pro workhorse I have - a bit of a fat boy but at least it worked as it should.
guitarguy: how did you get the software keyboard to work? it doesn't seem to work for me...
Note: I noticed in another thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417616&page=3) sub69 had linked up to logmein in a tv out demo - not sure if they'd used the keyboard to login to the remote unit though. If anyone knows sub69 perhaps they can shoot them a pm...
I guess we can all shoot a message through to HTC and ask them. At the least, they'll be aware of the issue. I've contacted logmein for any help - but all they've sent back is a "not supported yet" message.

That may caused by ClearType in Landscape mode. Try to go to Settings->System->Screen->ClearType, clear checkbox Enable ClearType.

Had the same problem with pocketinformant 8.
I disabled t9, autocorrect and stuff like that , and now no more probem.
Except that, in french, when i push on FN then on é , the program closes !
Always filling a hole by digging another one
Th

I had problem with Softmaker Office 2008. When i pressed Fn Key+another key like !, &, # or else, the cursor in Planmaker/Textmaker will move away.

Input > auto suggest = useless?

With my TyTN = Hermes and WM6.0 the autosuggestion of words seems much better than the Raphaels (at least in the hardware keybord stance).
Can someone explain why that is or if I have haven´t understood the utility or something else right?
With TyTN it basically suggests 4 alternatives in a diagonal way, it can be one word or SEVERAL words in a row, depending on what I´we written before. And you choose from them with the upp and down arrow keys. Simple and quick.
With Raphael it suggests several ONLY singular words horisontally, and if it´s not in the dictionary it automatically chooses another word than the one you´we just written (!?). Slow and awkward.
Also - who is behind this solution? Windows Mobile 6.1 or is it HTC Raphaels unique solution?
Thanks in advance
/Danne

Anybody have an opinion or information on this matter?
At least the system is a part of WM6.1 or if it´s Raphaels unique solution? Because I´m thinking about buying a Kaiser with WM6.1 instead and wonder if it has the same solution.

Sorry, no additional info, but I'm in the same boat so to speak.
I find it completely useless, specially since I don't always use English in my SMS messages, and I found that it becomes a nightmare if it doesn't find a match and then forces my word to something it thinks it should be.
What I cannot understand is that under Settings-Personal-Input-Word Completion - I have DISABLED it, but it still friking tries to complete my words, even in keyboard mode???
Do you know of another place to disable this dastardly excuse of a feature?

HAH!
Found it! If you want to disable it completely, the do the following:
1) make sure you disable it under settings - all settings - personal - Word Completion.
2) When you open a new message, bring up the virtual keyboard and look for the button that reads "ABC T9" - it has a toggle on the button, make sure it is on "ABC" and NOT T9 -voila!
Now I can SMS again!

I´m glad I was not the only one being irritated about this. But at least it´s possible to turn it off, so thanks for posting the solution Piie
I actually returned my TP because of this and severeal other reasons but I´m thinking about buying it again or some other WM6.1 phone. So do you know if your solution to turn if of works with Word Mobile documents as well?
And still, if somebody knows if it´s part of Raphael or WM6.1, please let me know.

Agreed 100% on the uselessness of word completion feature on the TP. On mine, the T9 feature actually slows the sms application so much as to make it completely unusable. This is probably my biggest complaint with this device.

Yip, following the steps as posted also removes the predictive text completely for Word ( and all other apps I have used so far)...

Thanks piie

I believe its part of the TP keyboard (SIP) not WM6.1 , when i had my kaiser with wm6.1 this "IRRITATING" issue was not there, but when i installed the diamond keyboard on my kaiser, this thing came out...... now its part of the TP because of its keyboard.......... so its HTC

I was getting annoyed with the behavior described in posts 1 and 2, disableds the whole thing too (I had an Excalibur before and it seemed to work far better on this particular aspect).
However, I decided to give the TP's T9 another shot and started changing it's configurations and finally got rid of the annoiance related: when on a text field, bring up the T9 options by pressing "Fn" + "Space", select "T9" settings and on the screen that appears uncheck the "Spell Correction" and "Auto-substitution" boxes.
Now I'm using the word prediction (T9) again just like I used in my old device, tipying much faster! (specially because I commonly write in portuguese and my keyboard is the UK one...).
Hope this helps you guys.
Cheers.

Sweet!
So you can still have predictive text, but remove the actual "irritant" of it overriding your word if it doesn't match it's dictionery - seems like that is the answer to your problem Danne?
For me - I really don't care for ANY kind of prediction - most often than not, even in English, the suggestions are maybe 30% usefull if that...

Great!
Yes, this is solution and now I know it´s part of Raphael/Diamond and not WM6.1!
Still, the Hermes WM6-solution with prediction of several words based on what you previously have written seems better. But I am happy with this!
I guess that´s the last words for me in this discussion.
Thanks guys!

just wondering how to disable word completion without installing htc ezinput, because at input settings by disabling it, doesn't work at all.

here's everything you need to know on how to get back to the old style autocorrect and change your dictionaries: http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1527

That however breaks your hardware keyboard
sym key will stop working and you can't get pound and euro sign using FN key....
see my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470647

Opera 9.5 doesn't let me post on VBScript forums like this one

I can type into this box, but when I hit Submit New Thread it responds saying that my message is too short. Its not too short its just the server not recieving my input apparently.
Any fixes? This is why I stick mostly to Opera Mini when I had my Mogul; Opera Mini works great on forums. But I always found Opera Mobile to not.

hidavi said:
I can type into this box, but when I hit Submit New Thread it responds saying that my message is too short. Its not too short its just the server not recieving my input apparently.
Any fixes? This is why I stick mostly to Opera Mini when I had my Mogul; Opera Mini works great on forums. But I always found Opera Mobile to not.
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With 380ish posts really you should know the rules of posting thats a Q&A or related to a specific Opera build and should be posted in the correct thread\sub forum...

that's interesting, I've never had that kind of problem with opera before. the only kind I had was that I couldn't enter text when trying to post. however, easy fix for that was to set user agent spoof to 3 in opera:config. try doing that and see if it works.
a lot of people likes mini but it sucked dragon balls to me. I remember when I used to use hardware keyboard, I couldn't start typing something in the text entry and switch orientation in mini because then all that I have typed would be exiled into oblivion. however, it displays pages really well and is fast.
another thing is that I couldn't access most embedded and pop-out menus. I don't know if they put in a download manager now that allows for more than 1 download at a time with pause and resume functionality. the lack of these things used to really annoy me. plus I find that I use opera's send to email and sms quite frequently.
yeah I was jellin with mini until opera9 came out. mini is good for most users though.

Moved to Q&A section.

I'm using opera 9.5 now and i have no problems... It may be your :config settings or just your build.

Why is Opera mobile so crappy? (Rant)

This is another one of my multi-site threads, allright now lets get started with my claims. I will start with talking about the very first version of opera mobile ive ever used, it was 8.5.x it loaded the PC versions of every site BUT it would often cry low memory and then crash and it would also not display text right (larger than normal even with settings on minimum) and when i would type it would input large spaces in between words and yet we were expected to pay $29.99 for it (were they crazy?).
Now that i am on my HTC touch pro which comes with opera 9.5 preinstalled it runs pretty stable but there are still problems.
-it cries low memory even tho i have plenty of RAM free and then stops loading a webpage.
-regular links dont respond when i click them unless i do it about after 20 times or so
-mobile site redirects (but this is fixed with the UA hacks)
-rendering problems on sites, certain boxes dont pop up (ie. facebook friend request dialogs.),cant respond to messages on myspace.com or compose new ones, this means i cant do a new browse when away from the computer.opera officials and tech bloggers cite that opera mobile has excellent ajax and web standards support tho my experience is quite the opposite.
-when typing the screen does not scroll over as i type.
-CANT even close it or access it from the task manager unless you do some hacking.
-links sometimes dont respond unless i pull out stylus or press on it multiple times.
-CANT render the frames on my schools student websites properly (ie blackboard NOTE: PIE does this perfectly)
-CRASHES when trying to access ppcgeeks.com
I've also tried most of the opera 9.7 betas and its improved all issues I've had with opera 9.5 except:
-mobile site redirects are worse even with the UA hacks
-screen corruption problems when i recieve a text message, email or IM
-tap and hold menus sometimes dont work
-still cant send messages on myspace and other networking sites
now we are at opera 10 the latest beta suffers these problems
-memory hog
-graphics on sites are pixelated
-does not play nice with OzIM
-mobile redirects are solved with UA hacks tho i would like to see them resolved without having to do this.
-STILL cannot send messages on myspace and tagged.com but at least can send friend requests and access notifications on facebook so thats an improvement.
-when typing with the touch screen, the type cursor moves back to the top line which causes me to have to use the hardware keyboard when typing 2 line messages.
WHY cant they get it right? the iris browser does not suffer these problems only thing i dont like about it is theres no text reflow when zooming in IM not giving them any of my $$$ until all these problems are resolved and also if it will have flash support. has anyone found other issues other than those i have reported? and is there a build of opera mobile that does not suffer these issues, if so can i have a link to it?

Sorry to hear you had such bad experience
On mine, Opera Mobile 10 b2 is working great and I´m so happy with it
The new tab selection is just great!

You seem to be having a great many problems, most of which i have not sufferered on any of my devices (diamond, topaz, HD2)
Im currently using opera 10b2 and its working very well.
sometimes i get the "not scrolling as im entering text" problem, and on a rare occasion i have trouble with redirects. but the majority of the time opera performs as i would expect
Maybe you could give more examples of sites you have trouble with and detail the problem. for example you mentioned PPCgeeks crashing but not what the crash was?
I have just visited PPCG and it rendered fine, i clicked a few links and it has all worked as expected prehaps the problems are specific to the version of opera you are running?
It may also be worth reporting your bugs direct to opera, it will allow them to better address shortcomings in their product in the future.

rumpleforeskin said:
You seem to be having a great many problems, most of which i have not sufferered on any of my devices (diamond, topaz, HD2)
Im currently using opera 10b2 and its working very well.
sometimes i get the "not scrolling as im entering text" problem, and on a rare occasion i have trouble with redirects. but the majority of the time opera performs as i would expect
Maybe you could give more examples of sites you have trouble with and detail the problem. for example you mentioned PPCgeeks crashing but not what the crash was?
I have just visited PPCG and it rendered fine, i clicked a few links and it has all worked as expected prehaps the problems are specific to the version of opera you are running?
It may also be worth reporting your bugs direct to opera, it will allow them to better address shortcomings in their product in the future.
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well the crashes on ppcgeeks only occur in 9.5. the rendering problems I have are with ajax for example on the full facebook site I can't comment on status updates or send friend requests because the ajax boxes don't pop up. it works a lot better in version 10 but still not as good as iris or skyfire browser and WOW I just discovered something else. I went to the official opera forums and I couldn't even answer any threads because the reply forms wouldn't appear. the bug report form also didn't appear. that's a shame when a browser doesn't support its own site.

Get the new Netfront. Works fine and highly recommended

windowsphone said:
Get the new Netfront. Works fine and highly recommended
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what great???i even doesnt like a bit.. previous version was the best..
in new version i cant dwnld anything?what a ****?
in hosting sites it show ....seconds remaining and then no countdown?
come on r u supposed to work with that ****?
i like iris 1:1.9 and opera 9.7 build 35461

orb3000 said:
Sorry to hear you had such bad experience
On mine, Opera Mobile 10 b2 is working great and I´m so happy with it
The new tab selection is just great!
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Would agree with Orb, using Opera 10 beta 2 and having no issues with it.

Opera 9.7 and 10 both can not render Hotmail right ( when in desktop view ). You can not reply to messages or compose new ones. You just can't type in the message body field. Opera should attend this problem, since it seems like the problem has been out there for a long time.