This is another one of my multi-site threads, allright now lets get started with my claims. I will start with talking about the very first version of opera mobile ive ever used, it was 8.5.x it loaded the PC versions of every site BUT it would often cry low memory and then crash and it would also not display text right (larger than normal even with settings on minimum) and when i would type it would input large spaces in between words and yet we were expected to pay $29.99 for it (were they crazy?).
Now that i am on my HTC touch pro which comes with opera 9.5 preinstalled it runs pretty stable but there are still problems.
-it cries low memory even tho i have plenty of RAM free and then stops loading a webpage.
-regular links dont respond when i click them unless i do it about after 20 times or so
-mobile site redirects (but this is fixed with the UA hacks)
-rendering problems on sites, certain boxes dont pop up (ie. facebook friend request dialogs.),cant respond to messages on myspace.com or compose new ones, this means i cant do a new browse when away from the computer.opera officials and tech bloggers cite that opera mobile has excellent ajax and web standards support tho my experience is quite the opposite.
-when typing the screen does not scroll over as i type.
-CANT even close it or access it from the task manager unless you do some hacking.
-links sometimes dont respond unless i pull out stylus or press on it multiple times.
-CANT render the frames on my schools student websites properly (ie blackboard NOTE: PIE does this perfectly)
-CRASHES when trying to access ppcgeeks.com
I've also tried most of the opera 9.7 betas and its improved all issues I've had with opera 9.5 except:
-mobile site redirects are worse even with the UA hacks
-screen corruption problems when i recieve a text message, email or IM
-tap and hold menus sometimes dont work
-still cant send messages on myspace and other networking sites
now we are at opera 10 the latest beta suffers these problems
-memory hog
-graphics on sites are pixelated
-does not play nice with OzIM
-mobile redirects are solved with UA hacks tho i would like to see them resolved without having to do this.
-STILL cannot send messages on myspace and tagged.com but at least can send friend requests and access notifications on facebook so thats an improvement.
-when typing with the touch screen, the type cursor moves back to the top line which causes me to have to use the hardware keyboard when typing 2 line messages.
WHY cant they get it right? the iris browser does not suffer these problems only thing i dont like about it is theres no text reflow when zooming in IM not giving them any of my $$$ until all these problems are resolved and also if it will have flash support. has anyone found other issues other than those i have reported? and is there a build of opera mobile that does not suffer these issues, if so can i have a link to it?
Sorry to hear you had such bad experience
On mine, Opera Mobile 10 b2 is working great and I´m so happy with it
The new tab selection is just great!
You seem to be having a great many problems, most of which i have not sufferered on any of my devices (diamond, topaz, HD2)
Im currently using opera 10b2 and its working very well.
sometimes i get the "not scrolling as im entering text" problem, and on a rare occasion i have trouble with redirects. but the majority of the time opera performs as i would expect
Maybe you could give more examples of sites you have trouble with and detail the problem. for example you mentioned PPCgeeks crashing but not what the crash was?
I have just visited PPCG and it rendered fine, i clicked a few links and it has all worked as expected prehaps the problems are specific to the version of opera you are running?
It may also be worth reporting your bugs direct to opera, it will allow them to better address shortcomings in their product in the future.
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You seem to be having a great many problems, most of which i have not sufferered on any of my devices (diamond, topaz, HD2)
Im currently using opera 10b2 and its working very well.
sometimes i get the "not scrolling as im entering text" problem, and on a rare occasion i have trouble with redirects. but the majority of the time opera performs as i would expect
Maybe you could give more examples of sites you have trouble with and detail the problem. for example you mentioned PPCgeeks crashing but not what the crash was?
I have just visited PPCG and it rendered fine, i clicked a few links and it has all worked as expected prehaps the problems are specific to the version of opera you are running?
It may also be worth reporting your bugs direct to opera, it will allow them to better address shortcomings in their product in the future.
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well the crashes on ppcgeeks only occur in 9.5. the rendering problems I have are with ajax for example on the full facebook site I can't comment on status updates or send friend requests because the ajax boxes don't pop up. it works a lot better in version 10 but still not as good as iris or skyfire browser and WOW I just discovered something else. I went to the official opera forums and I couldn't even answer any threads because the reply forms wouldn't appear. the bug report form also didn't appear. that's a shame when a browser doesn't support its own site.
Get the new Netfront. Works fine and highly recommended
windowsphone said:
Get the new Netfront. Works fine and highly recommended
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what great???i even doesnt like a bit.. previous version was the best..
in new version i cant dwnld anything?what a ****?
in hosting sites it show ....seconds remaining and then no countdown?
come on r u supposed to work with that ****?
i like iris 1:1.9 and opera 9.7 build 35461
orb3000 said:
Sorry to hear you had such bad experience
On mine, Opera Mobile 10 b2 is working great and I´m so happy with it
The new tab selection is just great!
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Would agree with Orb, using Opera 10 beta 2 and having no issues with it.
Opera 9.7 and 10 both can not render Hotmail right ( when in desktop view ). You can not reply to messages or compose new ones. You just can't type in the message body field. Opera should attend this problem, since it seems like the problem has been out there for a long time.
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Hi people,
I know of pocket explorer, and the opera release, but is there any other webbrowsers out there that are any good?
What i am looking for is something like the iphones safari. That would be nice
Pocket Explorer
Opera
Deepfish - damn shame this was never continued!
Cheers
Opera have 2 releases, you didn't mention which one you have. Opera Mobile is one of them but its not free, its good for tabbed browsing and downloads but personally i can't get along with it as it runs slow on my handset and often has script errors, plus struggles with desktop pages and uses alot of data. Opera Mini is the other one and i personally think its amazing. You can load up full web pages quickly and easily and it allows you to zoom in and out of the pages so you can view them like you would on your desktop. It uses very low amounts of data so its cheap to use, plus its free to download.
I personally use opera on my handset as it works well with windows, its the best thing so far anyway.
If your thinking of something more along the lines of the safari (iphone) experience, there is nothing at this time that matches it exactly, but there are similar programs you can get hold of that have been around a little while like Picsel Browser. Which can load up full pages (but cost you alot of data), and renders the pages pretty well, plus you can scroll with your finger and zoom in and out of pages without a stylus. I used to use this browser but i'm now totally hooked on Opera Mini.
I'm sure there are some other browsers out there but these two i mentioned are the only 2 i consider worth mentioning.
PS. Deepfish is similar to Opera mini, its optimises pages server side to make them smaller (data wise anyway), but i think opera have stollen the game from microsoft, thus them stopping any more work on the project, from what we can see anyway!
Hope this all helps btw
Read by related articles at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Web Browsing, browsers
Personally I don't use opera mini, because it doesn't come for the htc p4350, i can run the generic, but I have to startup java first, then opera, and with every text area (including adress) it opens a new typing window..
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Personally I don't use opera mini, because it doesn't come for the htc p4350, i can run the generic, but I have to startup java first, then opera, and with every text area (including adress) it opens a new typing window..
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That's the same way it works on my wing. However, as I'm browsing from a phone, I really don't have the highest of expectations for my browsing experience, and all things considered, opera mini is the best option I've found thus far.
how do i get picsel..
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how do i get picsel..
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search google. I tried to find a search term that linked to a site with picsel, but i couldnt find a term that worked. And no posting links to warez, so your only hope is google.... or pm me, and ill tell you my number to call me, and ill help you out...
Rory
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There's a lot more than just opera and ie, Picsel's the way to go.
leaskovski said:
Hi people,
I know of pocket explorer, and the opera release, but is there any other webbrowsers out there that are any good?
What i am looking for is something like the iphones safari. That would be nice
Cheers
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Look for Picsel browser, it works almost exactly as the iPhone safari, the zoom, the kinetic scrolling, all that stuff. Execpt it's made for only samsung phones so they don't make it availible for everybody. I have aa copy, but i don't think i can post it here. Type it in google, there a lot of them there. That's where i found mine. And by the way Picsel dosent just view web pages, it also views pictures, word, excel,pdf and powerpoint. Goodluck
leaskovski said:
Hi people,
I know of pocket explorer, and the opera release, but is there any other webbrowsers out there that are any good?
What i am looking for is something like the iphones safari. That would be nice
Pocket Explorer
Opera
Deepfish - damn shame this was never continued!
Cheers
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Ever thought about the FTX browser or Webby?
well..guys i got the file..but havent test it yet..well..atleast not yet..lolz jus typed in Picsel Browser 1.0.5 download..nd got it ;D
I tried Piscel and it was very snazzy, however, it does have some site limitations so it looks like the pay version of opera is the way to go.
Hi folks,
searching my favourite Google-Oracle and this forum didn't brought me anything about my question (except my search parameters are stupid choosen)
Is there a way to call a phone-number which is displayed in your browser (PocketIE,Opera-Mini) with your PDA (e.g. htc artemis)?
Just like - selecting the phone-number and hit the call button. But I don't want to copy paste the number, which are some clicks too much!
The web page can be modified by me, I don't necessarily want to take public pages, but my own designed ones.
Thanks in advance.
Here we go again.
Hope this will raise some attention to this thread again. (The "General" Thread is very frequently used, but I guess that's the problem. Difficult problems like mine aren't answered)
So there are no ideas?
What a mess.
only such plugin i even seen on pc was the skype plugin for IE which ended up pretty much seeing all 6 and 8 diget nr's as phone numbers
as browsers on pda are much less mature
i suspect your best bet would be to manualy copy paste the number
Meanwhile in a German Forum i got this:
With Opera Mini 4 you can click on a phone number an will be asked if you want to dial or not.
Since Opera Mini 4 ist not my choice (no local adresses browseable and all Websites are first "prepared" over an Opera Server) I will be waiting for Opera Mobile 9.5.
Opera Mobile 9.5 will let you dial a phone number on a website.
However I hoped, that there was some HTML-Tags or anything else which can tell you on PocketIE to dial a number.
That is shame really, even Blackberry browser and Iphone's Nautilus let you dial number displayed on the web page...
I am attaching the skyfire cab here. All you need to do is sign up for the beta, and I hope the cab should work for you. (You need a user name and password)
Skyfire: Watch Youtube/ Cnn.com videos in the browser
Beyond faster than fast browsing speed, almost like a desktop
This will be the browser to end all browsers
only works with u.s. phone numer...
what is the point of this, half the people here have already signed up for the beta and half the people here never heard a response from skyfire
Yeah this won't work until getting the message from Skyfire that you are a part of the beta. Close this thread. On a side note Skyfire does work really well. Streams just about every type of video out there.
Does anyone have a video of a Fuze loading a relatively complicated page such as CNET.com, Ign.com, or Engadget.com on ATT's 3G or Hsdpa network? I just want to compare the loading times compared to my own fuze thanks..
is yours slow on the net? cause mine is painfully slow. my old tmo wing is faster, easy.
I could make a video of my Fuze loading Engadget but I use MyMobile software for screencaps/videos and it limits FPS so you can't get a true recording of its speed. Engadget loads fairly quick on ATT 3G HSxPA, using Opera 2808 on a cooked ROM.
I guess you're looking for a recording by a separate camera?
As long as its not fast fowarded or skipped its not important how it was recorded
Opera simply SUCKS! Such an awful internet experience.. Especially when you scroll, you can hit accidentaly links and you just don't know about it .. another annoying thing is the focus losing when draggin while the page is still loading.
Bleah.. opera is just an over-hyped piece of crap. (i really wanted to say nice words about opera.. but I really can't)
Try Opera Mini on large sites, way better..
If you want, I can record you a video but I'm using Orange 3G and I'm from Romania.
I was playing around with the ol' tilt and decided to check out the internet speed and the difference was dramatic. It took my tilt less than half the time to load a page than my fuze. I used activesync to connect to the internet on both the phones.
The version of Opera on my Tilt just seemed faster in every way (loading pages, opening up the favorites, scrolling through them) I think that the VGA version of Opera is just poorly written. Unless maybe, the Fuze has bigger problems than just GPS lag....
Slightly off topic but one really frustratingly big thing that annoys me about Opera Mobile 9.5 is that it does not remember page scroll positions in its history and *especially* when opening new pages. For example, when you open a link that is down the bottom of the page, the new page will open scrolled down relative to the bottom - what use is that? Same things occurs when going through the page history - it doesn't remember where you were on a previous page and uses the last scroll position. I just can't understand how that can be classed as a usable feature? Apart from that major frustrating annoyance, I don't mind it as a mobile browser, as I really like the fullscreen mode.
Off topic I know but it is a big consideration when choosing Opera Mobile.
Opera-mini IS much faster than 9.5. Skyfire loads much faster (but is very rough looking) than 9.5 also, on my Fuze anyway.
Glad to see this post. I was wondering if it was my phone.
I can type into this box, but when I hit Submit New Thread it responds saying that my message is too short. Its not too short its just the server not recieving my input apparently.
Any fixes? This is why I stick mostly to Opera Mini when I had my Mogul; Opera Mini works great on forums. But I always found Opera Mobile to not.
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I can type into this box, but when I hit Submit New Thread it responds saying that my message is too short. Its not too short its just the server not recieving my input apparently.
Any fixes? This is why I stick mostly to Opera Mini when I had my Mogul; Opera Mini works great on forums. But I always found Opera Mobile to not.
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With 380ish posts really you should know the rules of posting thats a Q&A or related to a specific Opera build and should be posted in the correct thread\sub forum...
that's interesting, I've never had that kind of problem with opera before. the only kind I had was that I couldn't enter text when trying to post. however, easy fix for that was to set user agent spoof to 3 in opera:config. try doing that and see if it works.
a lot of people likes mini but it sucked dragon balls to me. I remember when I used to use hardware keyboard, I couldn't start typing something in the text entry and switch orientation in mini because then all that I have typed would be exiled into oblivion. however, it displays pages really well and is fast.
another thing is that I couldn't access most embedded and pop-out menus. I don't know if they put in a download manager now that allows for more than 1 download at a time with pause and resume functionality. the lack of these things used to really annoy me. plus I find that I use opera's send to email and sms quite frequently.
yeah I was jellin with mini until opera9 came out. mini is good for most users though.
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I'm using opera 9.5 now and i have no problems... It may be your :config settings or just your build.