CoPilot Bluetooth GPS Bonding - General Topics

I have just bought the CoPilot Bluetooth GPS and Maps. I can bond with the device using my XDAII but it keeps asking for a pin of which I do not have. Can anyone tell me what this pin is?

sgaedwards said:
I have just bought the CoPilot Bluetooth GPS and Maps. I can bond with the device using my XDAII but it keeps asking for a pin of which I do not have. Can anyone tell me what this pin is?
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That will be 0183
For more info on GPS and related sw you can have a look at www.pocketgps.co.uk
HTH
Ottoman

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XDAII and bluetooth gps.

Hi all,
I have just bought a tomtom bluetooth gps system, I can bond to the gps receiver ok, but it just wn't connect. There is deffinately a connection during the bonding process but that is it, it never connects again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
Puff The Magic Wagon! said:
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
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I think the problem is that the xdaII doesn't support a bluetooth serial port profile. I have tried virtually everything and had no luck.
Please keep me posted on how you get on, I really hope we can get this sorted or I will have a gps reciever paper weight.
Steve
Hmm
Due to the nature of yesterday, it wasn't until midnight (GMT) that I could get to have a play with my XDA II & EMTAC BTGPS (& I wasn't sober )
Installed TTN2 and tried to connect - not a sauasage
There "seems" to be something using COM6 and as such TTN2 can't use that as the path to the EMTAC - check box in the GPS options won't check. Turn off BT & you can check the box, but it won't connect as something else obviously can't use it either :? Dunno - I'm not a programmer but I'm going to have to check this out.
I'll speak to a contact @ EMTAC & see if they have been sucessful in bonding to an XDA II (HTC2?) & if so how. Otherwise I'll keep on playing with it & see what I can find out.
Anyone else got any tips or ideas what might be the way of resolving this?
Have you tried turning off the "receive incoming beams" under settings/connections, that may or may not free up the first com port.
I know someone with the same problem. O2 have told him that Tom Tom are working on a new version of software to fix this specific issue and it will be downloadable from the TT site. They couldn't say when.
xdaguru
Beam off did seem to allow me to connect to COM6 but not for my device Might be worth trying Steve because TT Wireless was one I could connect to.
IIRC from iPaq Bluetooth Manager, you had to bring up the device options once bonded and then select a serial connection. Pocket Loox as well. The BT Manager in the XDA II is very basic. So I do wonder if its a TT soluble solution or does it need an upgrade to the BT Manager?
If its a problem soluble by TT then I'm prehaps more hopeful
Sorry to go off topic but I wonder if this is the same PTMW that I know?
How you doin m8?
Hello Danny
Yes it is I
Can't be that many PTMW!'s about
All's well & I'll catch you on the other side one day
Yeah I guessed there could be only one PTMW
I take it you're lucky enough to have an XDA2 already? I always knew u were a gaget fan like myself. I have a month left on my XDA1 contract
Hopefully Tom Tom will have the problem ironed out by then as I have TTN2 aswell.
Pay us a vist on Scoobycity soon. Alots changed and we're alot bigger now
Any bluetooth GPS working with the XDA2 ??
Is there anyone who got the XDA2 working with a bluetooth GPS ? I am very eager to get one (both the XDA2 and a bluetooth GPS) but I would like to hear from some who got a combination working .
Thanks,
Marco
Its being looked into Marco
It may be that the BT Manager may not have various BT options enabled, so it may need a software update/patch from O2.
Spoke to O2 this morning.
They are "aware that not everything works with BT" and are working on a software update.
No timescale offered
I have an Emtac and was going to buy the XDAii to replace my Loox but without this bluetooth connectivity I will save my money. However interestingly it does say on the XDA website...
...or use TomTom Bluetooth with Xda II and cut down the amount of wires in your car
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I'd say this is enough to get a refund if you want one. Page in question is located here...
http://www.my-xda.com/gps.html
TomTom and Bluetooth
The fault with the TomTom software and Bluetooth lies solely in TomTom's software. TomTom have recognised this and are aggresively working to fix the problem.
The TomTom GPS software doesn't know to read the details of the virtual com port. So give them some time to fix the problem....
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
Hi
I too have just upgraded to the XDA II from the Ipaq 3970, and I also have an Emtac BTGPS.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
It would be very interesting to find out if any one has a TomTom BTGPS and can serial link it to the XDA II
Dom
TomTom and Bluetooth
mother said:
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
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The fact you're able to bond with the unit shows that bluetooth is working correctly.
The issue is that the tomtom software can't read com6: (which is where bt is hiding) or do anything with it, because of the way the software works.
This is because the Bluetooth manager on Xda II is from MICROSOFT, whereas on other devices it's manufacturer specific. As far as I know this is the first ever deployment of the MS Bluetooth stack directly.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
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Then why do they say they support TomTom on their website? Seems like a few people at O2 dont really know what's going on?
I've not known that O2 has ever supported EMTAC BTGPS 'cos the XDA (1) didn't have bluetooth support :?
Surely it is the BT manager that is at fault? Not allowing the a serial connection from the manager to the Emtac?
TomTom is looking to read Com6 (when told to) but the info its getting is not sufficient or mapable.
I've run BTGPS with a TDK B/tooth card and it needs to be told (as do other managers) to make a serial connection to the BT device.
Test for someone (I'll try & do it too)
Find an alternate mapping software that *should* accept a BTGPS device & try to connect...

MDA2 and TomTom

Hi,
does anybody know, if the TomTom Navigator work on an MDA2. I've got my MDA2 since monday and i am not able to get TomTom Navigator (Version2 incl. the newest Updates) running. The installation-process works fine, but if I start the installed software, I get the lovely circling wheel in the middle of the screen...and that's all...hmmm...so, does anybody got a working installation of tomtom2 on an MDA2 or an XDA2 ???
Next question:
Does anybody have experiences with a Bluetooth-GPS-Mouse on a MDA2 (maybe this question is not very important, if the answer of the question above will be nefative ;-)
greets from frankfurt / germany
roberto
There's a thread on Bluetooth GPS and the XDA II/MDA II (http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3341)
in which there is an answer to both your questions.
Haven't seen anything new lately on either topic:
- Tom Tom with any kind of GPS
- Bluetooth GPS
I had the same problem, then I tried a different SD (128 instead of 256) card for map storage and it works. I remember TomTom having the same problems with Ipaq 5450’s until HP issued a fix.
I’ve just ordered a Bluetooth GPS.. Looks like I’ve got more problems ahead.
I’ve just ordered a Bluetooth GPS.. Looks like I’ve got more problems ahead.
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Please keep us informed, regardless if the Bluetooth GPS fails or not..
By the way: I read a review of the new Toshiba E800 PDA (which has a 480x640 screen :shock: and beautiful indigo color (finally something else)) and the author mentioned testing the PDA with a Rikaline Bluetooth GPS receiver.
At first, he had difficulties connecting the Toshiba and the Rikaline, but managed to solve it by setting TomTom to 'Bluetooth Card' instead of 'COM6'.....
Might be worth a try :?:
Take care :!:
There is no 'Bluetooth Card' setting on Navigator 2.
I still can't get it to work.
Help!
RedBull said:
There is no 'Bluetooth Card' setting on Navigator 2.
I still can't get it to work.
Help!
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:roll: I guess it has to do with the Bluetooth Manager of the Toshiba then...
Nothing left but wait for Tom Tom updates and more MDA2 Bluetooth profiles
Somebody101, will you try something, install maps to main memory and see if that works, I know you can only install a portion but I would be interested to hear the results.

BT GPS not working...HELP!!!

Hi, i just bought a Bluetooth GPS receiver (called BT-R500). I am wanted to use it with my Qtek 2020 (ROM 1.66.04ITA if this can be useful to somebody for helping me out...)!
I can't let them "communicate"...why? Anybody knows what i should do for the setting (which COM port should i use? it says com5 but can't find any satellite...)!!!
Is there somebody that had this kinda proble and solved it? Could you be so kind to let me know? thanks
When you bond the gps it should ask if you wish to use it as serial device. What software are you using and what are the settings you have applied? Have you tried a free 3rd party testing program to see if you are getting connection/signal?
I am using "Mapsonic", that requires a GPS that supports the NMEA signals 2.0. My GPS bluetooth receiver meets NMEA 2.2 requirements. This might be a problem in your opinion? I have not tried to use it with a 3rd party, just because i don't know anyone that has a GPS on his palm.
bt
www.bluetooth.jazztel.es
Hustladave said:
Hi, i just bought a Bluetooth GPS receiver (called BT-R500). I am wanted to use it with my Qtek 2020 (ROM 1.66.04ITA if this can be useful to somebody for helping me out...)!
I can't let them "communicate"...why? Anybody knows what i should do for the setting (which COM port should i use? it says com5 but can't find any satellite...)!!!
Is there somebody that had this kinda proble and solved it? Could you be so kind to let me know? thanks
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can you actually paired in the first place? or just unable to detect the satelites?
Hustladave
Maybe you should check the baude rate of the GPS device. I am using SysOn and had the same problem. You may also need to check if you are using the old rom or the new WMSE. For the old one, you should install bluetooth tools.
Alternatively, you can try GPS Tuner as it has an auto search function for the devices to communicate. :wink:
i have the same problem with holux 231 BT
i have the 1.72 wwe it work fine in com 5 the navigon reconize him but i have a motorola car kit he can't work with the MSbtooth i must install Bt tools to pair it but in the same time i loose the connection for the GPS
hi change from com5 to com7 i have a tools named gpsviewer delivred with the holux hi fond the GPS but the navigon no
i change the rom to the we 2.20 CHS but i discover that the GPS can't be found i install windcom stack ver1.49 and it work like a charm with the GPS but the are no profile for the car kit
the are ini suggestion to make the 2 device working in the same time
Sacaman

NAVIGON 4 + BT GPS doesn`t work (my failure?)

I cannot start using my navi kit for many days because of one problem: I leave BT GPS receiver outside for at least 20 hrs to initialise, connect to device regularly, run NAVIGON and get always the same message - "A GPS receiver has been detected, but a convinient GPS signal is not available. The reception is obstructed, or the receiver is being initialised."
Any idea what to do?
Slaven, it could be a faulty receiver, do you have a program for viewing the signal and number of sats being received? It maybe also that the settings are wrong for the gps, what is the model of receiver you are using and details please of how you set it up when bonding etc. Have you carried out a factory reset of the receiver also? One other thing, sometimes a gps reciver will work much better for initialising first time if it is mobile rather than static, put it in the car and see if you have any results after a mile or 2. Try this program to test the gps function.
Please check your PM I have sent one to you. thanks.
I`m using BT GPS receiver delivered in original kit with Navigon 4 (made by GNS). I`ve bonded them regularly (XDA II asked for code and I entered 0000 - as described in operation manual). I have not performed factory reset of GPS rec. because don`t know how to do that. I couldn`t find any possible way to do that, except to remove BT and TMC moduls and I have done so.
Thank`s for gpsdiag, but I don`t know hoe to connect BT GPS with my notebook (with built in BT) to test it. Only service available is to connect it to serial port, but couldn`t. As you can conclude, I`m not very experienced with this, so I need really DETAILED help! Thank`s in advance.
Sorry, I sent the wrong version of diag, I will pm you the proper file.
The BT version of serail port on qtek is not compatible with wildcomm BT (used by navigon) got to navigon website and download the wildcomm patch
this will solve your problem
I was using navigon with wired gps and then tried bluetooth which dropped signal and refused to reconnect, thanks for the link I will try it.

Tomtom 7.916(9192) on htc touch2 OK

Tomtom is OK
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23631092/b70abad/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Black__no_BT_.cab.html
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23630398/c811a37/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Blue__no_BT_.cab.html
Hi, have you any problems with the bluetooth after the installation of tomtom?
Could you try, please?
Thanks
Davide
the tomtom work fine with htc touch2
You shouldn't post warez links on here or you'll get barred!
If you like tomtom, have a search for Sygic Mobile Maps 10 - it's like a newer version of TomTom, maintains its simplicity whilst adding a few extra features and being a lot smoother, unlike Igo8 which is just too complicated...
sorry for noob question
Why do you need bluetooth to use GPS program? You just need to insall the program you want and launch it.
htcshane19 said:
Obviously bluetooth will determine loacation but i wondered if wifi has to be active at same time or at any time.
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HAXHXAHXAHHXAXAHHAXAXHXAHAXHHAXHXAHXAHXAAXHAX Bluetooth determining location damn guys come on haahahahaha GPS is the one positioning u .... bluetooth has nothing to do with it ... it's just that previous versions had a bug which crashes the BT and it wasnt working on the device , this release is done properly and everythin is fine hxahhxaxa BT <==> GPS hxahxahxah
HAXHXAHXAHHXAXAHHAXAXHXAHAXHHAXHXAHXAHXAAXHAX = haha ?? ?
Help....
palmtracker said:
Tomtom is OK
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23631092/b70abad/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Black__no_BT_.cab.html
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23630398/c811a37/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Blue__no_BT_.cab.html
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hi, i've downloaded these files but i dono how to install them. there's no .exe
i see setup.xml and more files with extension archive001,002,etc.
I've got this HTC TOUCH PRO2 special edition (T3320) from INDIA about a month back.(if i'm not wrong ,it's called HTC mega in europe ?)
Device information:
ROM: 1.32.1300.2 (72483)
ROM date: 12/16/09
Radio Ver: 3.50.25.15
At present i've installed Sygic. It detects the inbuilt GPS on com4 with baud rate of 4800. Everything works fine except: It doesn't catch any satellites. i kept it on for more than 45mins but no signal. Is there anyting i can do ?... i've downloaded this tom tom to try it out.
Please help me either to get the sygic working or installing this Tom TOm.
thanks in advance n
regards.
csanil said:
hi, i've downloaded these files but i dono how to install them. there's no .exe
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Looks like this is only a theme / skin for QVGA devices. TomTom is not freeware, so you need to buy it.
From what I read so far:
MEGA is the code name for this device, it should be oficcially called "HTC TOUCH2", not "HTC TOUCH PRO2". The latter sounds like a completely different device.
The normal edition should be T3333, T3320 is a low cost india edition without 3g, and without GPS. So I guess without a bluetooth connected GPS mouse you will not get GPS. Maybe through the GSM + Google location services you can get a rough location on google maps, but nowhere near accurate as necessary for navigation (needs GPS).
Sorry
LtBlue said:
HAXHXAHXAHHXAXAHHAXAXHXAHAXHHAXHXAHXAHXAAXHAX Bluetooth determining location damn guys come on haahahahaha GPS is the one positioning u .... bluetooth has nothing to do with it ... it's just that previous versions had a bug which crashes the BT and it wasnt working on the device , this release is done properly and everythin is fine hxahhxaxa BT <==> GPS hxahxahxah
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I guess he was thinking about a bluetooth GPS mouse, not about the integrated GPS in the T3333 / Touch2 / MEGA.
Actually also Wifi and GSM can somehow be used to get a location, but not really accurate at all. Not comparable with GPS anyway, and not enough for navigation.
Actually also Wifi and GSM can somehow be used to get a location, but not really accurate at all. Not comparable with GPS anyway, and not enough for navigation.
That is called A-GPS or assisted GPS. Can be useful in places with bad GPS signal as extra help.
thanks guys for the info...
By the way, anyone know which version of map is compatible with the TOMTOM 7.916? I found it was not able to recognize my map which worked fine in previous version of TOMTOM.
Thanks!
thankssss...
johnshembb said:
By the way, anyone know which version of map is compatible with the TOMTOM 7.916? I found it was not able to recognize my map which worked fine in previous version of TOMTOM.
Thanks!
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Is your map activated? Or do you have an old map? There are many maps which work with 7.916.......all have different codes for windows mobile use.....
As example I use Europe 845.2647
If tomtom gives the bttrayce error look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567492
Hi, when I installed TomTom on my Touch2 and restarted my device there was an error with bluetooth.
Tom Tom works great but I don't have bluetooth anymore, so I can't connect to my carkit.
I removeed TomTom and my bluetooth worked 100%.
somebody has a solution for this???
KdW
csanil said:
hi, i've downloaded these files but i dono how to install them. there's no .exe
i see setup.xml and more files with extension archive001,002,etc.
I've got this HTC TOUCH PRO2 special edition (T3320) from INDIA about a month back.(if i'm not wrong ,it's called HTC mega in europe ?)
Device information:
ROM: 1.32.1300.2 (72483)
ROM date: 12/16/09
Radio Ver: 3.50.25.15
At present i've installed Sygic. It detects the inbuilt GPS on com4 with baud rate of 4800. Everything works fine except: It doesn't catch any satellites. i kept it on for more than 45mins but no signal. Is there anyting i can do ?... i've downloaded this tom tom to try it out.
Please help me either to get the sygic working or installing this Tom TOm.
thanks in advance n
regards.
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yellowfever said:
Looks like this is only a theme / skin for QVGA devices. TomTom is not freeware, so you need to buy it.
From what I read so far:
MEGA is the code name for this device, it should be oficcially called "HTC TOUCH2", not "HTC TOUCH PRO2". The latter sounds like a completely different device.
The normal edition should be T3333, T3320 is a low cost india edition without 3g, and without GPS. So I guess without a bluetooth connected GPS mouse you will not get GPS. Maybe through the GSM + Google location services you can get a rough location on google maps, but nowhere near accurate as necessary for navigation (needs GPS).
Sorry
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Yellowfever is right: your device T3320 does not have a gps (built-in) receiver, so you can't use tomtom nor sygic mobile without an external gps receiver(connected via bluetooth)!
kdw1963 said:
Hi, when I installed TomTom on my Touch2 and restarted my device there was an error with bluetooth.
Tom Tom works great but I don't have bluetooth anymore, so I can't connect to my carkit.
I removeed TomTom and my bluetooth worked 100%.
somebody has a solution for this???
KdW
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See reply 17 above your message for bluetooth fix. Also you should have correct version of 7.916......
If you need sens me a PM with your private mail adres.

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