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XDAII and bluetooth gps.

Hi all,
I have just bought a tomtom bluetooth gps system, I can bond to the gps receiver ok, but it just wn't connect. There is deffinately a connection during the bonding process but that is it, it never connects again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve

If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously

Puff The Magic Wagon! said:
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
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I think the problem is that the xdaII doesn't support a bluetooth serial port profile. I have tried virtually everything and had no luck.
Please keep me posted on how you get on, I really hope we can get this sorted or I will have a gps reciever paper weight.
Steve

Hmm
Due to the nature of yesterday, it wasn't until midnight (GMT) that I could get to have a play with my XDA II & EMTAC BTGPS (& I wasn't sober )
Installed TTN2 and tried to connect - not a sauasage
There "seems" to be something using COM6 and as such TTN2 can't use that as the path to the EMTAC - check box in the GPS options won't check. Turn off BT & you can check the box, but it won't connect as something else obviously can't use it either :? Dunno - I'm not a programmer but I'm going to have to check this out.
I'll speak to a contact @ EMTAC & see if they have been sucessful in bonding to an XDA II (HTC2?) & if so how. Otherwise I'll keep on playing with it & see what I can find out.
Anyone else got any tips or ideas what might be the way of resolving this?

Have you tried turning off the "receive incoming beams" under settings/connections, that may or may not free up the first com port.

I know someone with the same problem. O2 have told him that Tom Tom are working on a new version of software to fix this specific issue and it will be downloadable from the TT site. They couldn't say when.
xdaguru

Beam off did seem to allow me to connect to COM6 but not for my device Might be worth trying Steve because TT Wireless was one I could connect to.
IIRC from iPaq Bluetooth Manager, you had to bring up the device options once bonded and then select a serial connection. Pocket Loox as well. The BT Manager in the XDA II is very basic. So I do wonder if its a TT soluble solution or does it need an upgrade to the BT Manager?
If its a problem soluble by TT then I'm prehaps more hopeful

Sorry to go off topic but I wonder if this is the same PTMW that I know?
How you doin m8?

Hello Danny
Yes it is I
Can't be that many PTMW!'s about
All's well & I'll catch you on the other side one day

Yeah I guessed there could be only one PTMW
I take it you're lucky enough to have an XDA2 already? I always knew u were a gaget fan like myself. I have a month left on my XDA1 contract
Hopefully Tom Tom will have the problem ironed out by then as I have TTN2 aswell.
Pay us a vist on Scoobycity soon. Alots changed and we're alot bigger now

Any bluetooth GPS working with the XDA2 ??
Is there anyone who got the XDA2 working with a bluetooth GPS ? I am very eager to get one (both the XDA2 and a bluetooth GPS) but I would like to hear from some who got a combination working .
Thanks,
Marco

Its being looked into Marco
It may be that the BT Manager may not have various BT options enabled, so it may need a software update/patch from O2.

Spoke to O2 this morning.
They are "aware that not everything works with BT" and are working on a software update.
No timescale offered

I have an Emtac and was going to buy the XDAii to replace my Loox but without this bluetooth connectivity I will save my money. However interestingly it does say on the XDA website...
...or use TomTom Bluetooth with Xda II and cut down the amount of wires in your car
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I'd say this is enough to get a refund if you want one. Page in question is located here...
http://www.my-xda.com/gps.html

TomTom and Bluetooth
The fault with the TomTom software and Bluetooth lies solely in TomTom's software. TomTom have recognised this and are aggresively working to fix the problem.
The TomTom GPS software doesn't know to read the details of the virtual com port. So give them some time to fix the problem....

Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?

Hi
I too have just upgraded to the XDA II from the Ipaq 3970, and I also have an Emtac BTGPS.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
It would be very interesting to find out if any one has a TomTom BTGPS and can serial link it to the XDA II
Dom

TomTom and Bluetooth
mother said:
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
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The fact you're able to bond with the unit shows that bluetooth is working correctly.
The issue is that the tomtom software can't read com6: (which is where bt is hiding) or do anything with it, because of the way the software works.
This is because the Bluetooth manager on Xda II is from MICROSOFT, whereas on other devices it's manufacturer specific. As far as I know this is the first ever deployment of the MS Bluetooth stack directly.

Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
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Then why do they say they support TomTom on their website? Seems like a few people at O2 dont really know what's going on?

I've not known that O2 has ever supported EMTAC BTGPS 'cos the XDA (1) didn't have bluetooth support :?
Surely it is the BT manager that is at fault? Not allowing the a serial connection from the manager to the Emtac?
TomTom is looking to read Com6 (when told to) but the info its getting is not sufficient or mapable.
I've run BTGPS with a TDK B/tooth card and it needs to be told (as do other managers) to make a serial connection to the BT device.
Test for someone (I'll try & do it too)
Find an alternate mapping software that *should* accept a BTGPS device & try to connect...

Warning XDA2i + Tom Tom 5 don't work together.

Hi Guys
Before you go and spend your money on tom tom 5, if you have an xda2i it's not compatible and tom tom won't supoort it. I've only found this out after buying the tt5 upgrade.
I can't get it to see the gps device on outgoing com port 6 on my xda2i.
Got a Fortuna Clip On BT GPS
Lost all the will to live with this now, feel like selling my xda2i.
Any help before it goes on ebay?
thanks
jase

Just got TomTom 5 for my XDA IIi as well. I've got the wired TT GPS receiver and all I get is no GPS device. I've set TT to the right receiver type but can't see anyway of changing the com port to use.
Any ideas? or like you am I screwed

I have an xda2i with TT5 and BT GPS receiver...works fine.
Or at least as good as with TT3. TT5 seems to turn off BT once it's been closed though, bit annoying.
Didn't have any problems with installing it though.
Ant

Ant
Which BT GPS Receiver are you using?
Can you go through which settings in TT5 did u use, what's your outgoing com port etc.
Thanks
jase

does this thread works for You?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=125456#125456
I'm thinking to mget the qtek2020i as wel with the tt5

Hi Goldenhands
I'll give it a go.
Thanks

I've tried this and it doesn't work.
Bluetooth app locks my outgoing com port to port 6. Does this need to be changed?
Thanks

AndyM said:
Just got TomTom 5 for my XDA IIi as well. I've got the wired TT GPS receiver and all I get is no GPS device. I've set TT to the right receiver type but can't see anyway of changing the com port to use.
Any ideas? or like you am I screwed
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untick recieve all incoming beams under connections

It was already unticked mate.

I have a QTEK 9090 with a BT antenna from TT3.
I simply installed TT5 over TT3 and everything worked right away.
Only problem is that in many screens, the onscreen keyboard is missing so I have to use the slideout keyboard. I expect them to fix that but it's really not that big a problem.

you have an xda2-s?
tom tom 5 is compatible with that but the xda2i isn't according to tom tom.

I am running Tom Tom 5 with the GreatBritain-Map on and XDA 2i with an "Aktronix" Bluetooth GPS reciever and it works absolutly with no problems whatsoever
My GPS reciever isnt paired and uses COM 6:
Tom Tom turns the bluetooth on by itself so my bluetooth is set to off usually.
I dont have a bluetooth headset.

Hi Danny
You saying that you didn't pair your gps receiver in with your xda2i first in the bluetooth manager?
Thanks

tomtom5 and xda2i
Have aked tomtom if it is a problem ,since have ordered upgrade,will let you know the response!

ok was just a suggestion ,as mine works fine ,with the phone off ,i got it to work perfectly with phone on made a call updated traffic until i put the phone in it's cradle and the gps locked it all up from then on

just had a look on TOMTOM site for unsupported devices for TTN5 here is the list
The following devices are not compatible with NAVIGATOR 5:
* Fujitsu Siemens (all models)
* Toshiba (all models)
Siemens SX 56
Acer N10
Eten P700
Mitac Mio 558
PackardBell Pocket Gear 3025
ViewSonic V37
Yakumo DELTA 300 , DELTA 400
ASUS MyPal (these do not have SD capabilities)
* We are working on achieving compatibility with the Toshiba and Fujitsu Siemens devices by Autumn 2005. For technical reasons, NAVIGATOR 5 will unfortunately not be made compatible for the other devices on the list.
the link is
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=24170bb816956c251a093199d55d42ea
So i am abit confused when you say TOMTOM 5 is not compatible. I have also emailed TOMTOM i awaiting their reply, i will post it on here once i get it.
I dont have a XDA IIi i have a XDA II .. i was thinking of upgrading to the XDA IIi but now i shall wait and see.
regards
Nya

just had a look on TOMTOM site for unsupported devices for TTN5 here is the list
The following devices are not compatible with NAVIGATOR 5:
* Fujitsu Siemens (all models)
* Toshiba (all models)
Siemens SX 56
Acer N10
Eten P700
Mitac Mio 558
PackardBell Pocket Gear 3025
ViewSonic V37
Yakumo DELTA 300 , DELTA 400
ASUS MyPal (these do not have SD capabilities)
* We are working on achieving compatibility with the Toshiba and Fujitsu Siemens devices by Autumn 2005. For technical reasons, NAVIGATOR 5 will unfortunately not be made compatible for the other devices on the list.
the link is
http://www.tomtom.com/shop/upgrade.php?action=pda&TT=24170bb816956c251a093199d55d42ea
So i am abit confused when you say TOMTOM 5 is not compatible. I have also emailed TOMTOM i awaiting their reply, i will post it on here once i get it.
I dont have a XDA IIi i have a XDA II .. i was thinking of upgrading to the XDA IIi but now i shall wait and see.
regards
Nya

TOMTOM 5 Might be able to help you out IMPORTANT
Hi Guys & Gals!.. right might be able to help here... ive got a magician and I got tomtom 5 on saturday... I have the original bluetooth TOMTOM GPS and I had Tomtom 3 on the pda, I uninstalled tomtom 3 and then installed tomtom 5.. and it connected to the bluetooth reciever. Then I went off thinking it would work and it didnt connect (no GPS found), so I reintstalled again did all the bonding int bluetooth manager, and it still didnt work... so I did a hard reset which was a pain but then reinstalled tomtom 5 again.... went to work and it still didnt work so I was in the car messing about trying to get it to bond and did it all again and it didnt work!...
So just got to work (HERES THE IMPORTANT BIT) and went up to my mate whos a techie currently building the largest Oracle solution in the world) and said look this blinking things not working.. so he started proding the screen with the pen all over the place mumbling as he does and hey presto the screen was in the GPS status screen were it shows all the satelite data and he touched the bit thats says NO GPS device (its not a box its just the text) and it then came up to reset the device to finish installation and hey presto it worked!!!!! ....
SO try this if it works the bloke is a genius !....and TOMTOM have a serious floor in there software.
Post on here your findings :lol: I keep checking it every 5 mins to see if its connecting and it is fine now.. SO FAR!

Having said that
Having said what ive just said... ive just turned it on and its now doing it again and not finding the module... dont believe it! it seems very wierd... let me know your thoughts please!

Having said that again.. ive now changed to a wired one in the configuration and selected it then gone back to the bluetooth one waited 60 seconds and clicked on the no gps device again which has reset the device and its working again! wierd.......!

Himalaya 3.5 - TT6 - BT

I've tried both Helmis and Ibashas 3.5 ROMS and they are brilliant, but I have one issue with both that I cannot solve.
How do I configure TT6 with BT GPS - I also use a BT headset.
Tried to follow the "old" TT5 manual for Universal and TT5 from this forum, but I cannot select outgoing port to 8.
I've tried outgoing port to 4 and program port 5 and it works ok.
Problem arises when I pair my BT headset also, if it is switched on, when I start TT there is no connection to the GPS, and consequently TT cannot find any satelittes.
Switch off the headset and restart TT and everything is fine again.
A few times it has happened that I get the BT pairing dialog box up after a while with TT started (headset on!) and has entered the passkey again.
So I wonder what settings I should use to be able to use both BT headset and TT6 with a BT antenna, anyone seen/solved this??????
I've tried 2 dif. BT headsets and 2 diff. GPS mice with both ROMS.
Best regards
/Henrik

Nobody experienced this or know how to solve it?

Waiting....

Ok, so nobody knows?
I will try on Buzznet then.
\HM

I read in tom tom website, tom tom 6 is not compatible with all device. For example in my case, I use O2 XDA II . Unfortunately tom tom 6 doesn't work with my device so I still use tom tom 5.21

Actually TT6 works exceptionally well with your device, which is the same as mine! - If it wasn't for this BT headset issue that is, it actually think it runs faster and smoother than it does on my JasJar!
But if you want to run it in landscape mode, you have to have either WM 2003 2. edition or even better WM5 in order to be able to use landscape (TT6 doesn't have that facility anymore).
And then you get the issue with the BT headset, which I reckon someone must know how to solve, even if it is a bit strange, nobody gives me any answers, not here and not on XDA-Developpers.
I would so much like to know if this is a known issue with this device and WM5, or if it is too trivial a question for anyone to bother to answer??????

selangkahlagi said:
I read in tom tom website, tom tom 6 is not compatible with all device. For example in my case, I use O2 XDA II . Unfortunately tom tom 6 doesn't work with my device so I still use tom tom 5.21
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TomTom 6 works perfectly on my xda 2, you are obviously on about the backlight issue, which can be fixed easily

Ok, but can you use a BT headset also?????

RSAP (VW) and Tom Tom

Hi all
First post here so apologies if this has already been asked and answered...I haven't been able to find it.
I've just upgraded my O2 Orbit 1 for an O2 Orbit 2 to gain the remote sim access profile (rsap) that my VW Passat's hands-free system needs.
I also have Tom Tom Navigator on my Orbit 2.
Here's the question:
when my phone's paired with the car, I have no problems making or taking calls but when I switch on the Sat Nav, while the connection between the handset and the car doesn't appear to be lost, the phone signal is.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Thanks
John

Hi Guys,
I've got the same problem with my Artemis an the blutooth premium of my golf.
The pairing with the phone is lost when i switch on tomtom.
Did you find a solution ?

Same problem as Lolo and did not find any solution until now.

Use McGuider
As far as the problem comes from tomtom and not from the GPS usage, we can use other navigation software like McGuider. I have tested, and it works fine.
I asked tomtom about this problem but no matter the problem is within their software. They did not want to know anything about it because their sofware continues working (is the rsap who goes down).

Tomtom 7.916(9192) on htc touch2 OK

Tomtom is OK
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23631092/b70abad/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Black__no_BT_.cab.html
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23630398/c811a37/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Blue__no_BT_.cab.html

Hi, have you any problems with the bluetooth after the installation of tomtom?
Could you try, please?
Thanks
Davide

the tomtom work fine with htc touch2

You shouldn't post warez links on here or you'll get barred!
If you like tomtom, have a search for Sygic Mobile Maps 10 - it's like a newer version of TomTom, maintains its simplicity whilst adding a few extra features and being a lot smoother, unlike Igo8 which is just too complicated...

sorry for noob question

Why do you need bluetooth to use GPS program? You just need to insall the program you want and launch it.

htcshane19 said:
Obviously bluetooth will determine loacation but i wondered if wifi has to be active at same time or at any time.
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HAXHXAHXAHHXAXAHHAXAXHXAHAXHHAXHXAHXAHXAAXHAX Bluetooth determining location damn guys come on haahahahaha GPS is the one positioning u .... bluetooth has nothing to do with it ... it's just that previous versions had a bug which crashes the BT and it wasnt working on the device , this release is done properly and everythin is fine hxahhxaxa BT <==> GPS hxahxahxah

HAXHXAHXAHHXAXAHHAXAXHXAHAXHHAXHXAHXAHXAAXHAX = haha ?? ?

Help....
palmtracker said:
Tomtom is OK
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23631092/b70abad/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Black__no_BT_.cab.html
h--p://hotfile.com/dl/23630398/c811a37/TTN7.916.9192_QVGA_Blue__no_BT_.cab.html
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hi, i've downloaded these files but i dono how to install them. there's no .exe
i see setup.xml and more files with extension archive001,002,etc.
I've got this HTC TOUCH PRO2 special edition (T3320) from INDIA about a month back.(if i'm not wrong ,it's called HTC mega in europe ?)
Device information:
ROM: 1.32.1300.2 (72483)
ROM date: 12/16/09
Radio Ver: 3.50.25.15
At present i've installed Sygic. It detects the inbuilt GPS on com4 with baud rate of 4800. Everything works fine except: It doesn't catch any satellites. i kept it on for more than 45mins but no signal. Is there anyting i can do ?... i've downloaded this tom tom to try it out.
Please help me either to get the sygic working or installing this Tom TOm.
thanks in advance n
regards.

csanil said:
hi, i've downloaded these files but i dono how to install them. there's no .exe
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Looks like this is only a theme / skin for QVGA devices. TomTom is not freeware, so you need to buy it.
From what I read so far:
MEGA is the code name for this device, it should be oficcially called "HTC TOUCH2", not "HTC TOUCH PRO2". The latter sounds like a completely different device.
The normal edition should be T3333, T3320 is a low cost india edition without 3g, and without GPS. So I guess without a bluetooth connected GPS mouse you will not get GPS. Maybe through the GSM + Google location services you can get a rough location on google maps, but nowhere near accurate as necessary for navigation (needs GPS).
Sorry

LtBlue said:
HAXHXAHXAHHXAXAHHAXAXHXAHAXHHAXHXAHXAHXAAXHAX Bluetooth determining location damn guys come on haahahahaha GPS is the one positioning u .... bluetooth has nothing to do with it ... it's just that previous versions had a bug which crashes the BT and it wasnt working on the device , this release is done properly and everythin is fine hxahhxaxa BT <==> GPS hxahxahxah
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I guess he was thinking about a bluetooth GPS mouse, not about the integrated GPS in the T3333 / Touch2 / MEGA.
Actually also Wifi and GSM can somehow be used to get a location, but not really accurate at all. Not comparable with GPS anyway, and not enough for navigation.

Actually also Wifi and GSM can somehow be used to get a location, but not really accurate at all. Not comparable with GPS anyway, and not enough for navigation.
That is called A-GPS or assisted GPS. Can be useful in places with bad GPS signal as extra help.

thanks guys for the info...

By the way, anyone know which version of map is compatible with the TOMTOM 7.916? I found it was not able to recognize my map which worked fine in previous version of TOMTOM.
Thanks!

thankssss...

johnshembb said:
By the way, anyone know which version of map is compatible with the TOMTOM 7.916? I found it was not able to recognize my map which worked fine in previous version of TOMTOM.
Thanks!
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Is your map activated? Or do you have an old map? There are many maps which work with 7.916.......all have different codes for windows mobile use.....
As example I use Europe 845.2647

If tomtom gives the bttrayce error look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567492

Hi, when I installed TomTom on my Touch2 and restarted my device there was an error with bluetooth.
Tom Tom works great but I don't have bluetooth anymore, so I can't connect to my carkit.
I removeed TomTom and my bluetooth worked 100%.
somebody has a solution for this???
KdW

csanil said:
hi, i've downloaded these files but i dono how to install them. there's no .exe
i see setup.xml and more files with extension archive001,002,etc.
I've got this HTC TOUCH PRO2 special edition (T3320) from INDIA about a month back.(if i'm not wrong ,it's called HTC mega in europe ?)
Device information:
ROM: 1.32.1300.2 (72483)
ROM date: 12/16/09
Radio Ver: 3.50.25.15
At present i've installed Sygic. It detects the inbuilt GPS on com4 with baud rate of 4800. Everything works fine except: It doesn't catch any satellites. i kept it on for more than 45mins but no signal. Is there anyting i can do ?... i've downloaded this tom tom to try it out.
Please help me either to get the sygic working or installing this Tom TOm.
thanks in advance n
regards.
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yellowfever said:
Looks like this is only a theme / skin for QVGA devices. TomTom is not freeware, so you need to buy it.
From what I read so far:
MEGA is the code name for this device, it should be oficcially called "HTC TOUCH2", not "HTC TOUCH PRO2". The latter sounds like a completely different device.
The normal edition should be T3333, T3320 is a low cost india edition without 3g, and without GPS. So I guess without a bluetooth connected GPS mouse you will not get GPS. Maybe through the GSM + Google location services you can get a rough location on google maps, but nowhere near accurate as necessary for navigation (needs GPS).
Sorry
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Yellowfever is right: your device T3320 does not have a gps (built-in) receiver, so you can't use tomtom nor sygic mobile without an external gps receiver(connected via bluetooth)!

kdw1963 said:
Hi, when I installed TomTom on my Touch2 and restarted my device there was an error with bluetooth.
Tom Tom works great but I don't have bluetooth anymore, so I can't connect to my carkit.
I removeed TomTom and my bluetooth worked 100%.
somebody has a solution for this???
KdW
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See reply 17 above your message for bluetooth fix. Also you should have correct version of 7.916......
If you need sens me a PM with your private mail adres.