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I've spent literally days and days reading through threads about various ROMs, I'm hoping someone who has more experience with OPO ROMs than me can point me in the right direction - looking for a solid ROM with these features baked in:
Good ad blocker
Privacy guard
Best or close to best battery life
Can set system font
Solid : doesn't crash or have nasty wakelocks / memory leaks - want a phone that spends most of it's time nicely SLEEPING when it's in my pocket
Most of the ROMs I've looked at seem to be missing one or more of those basic features? I was thinking CM 12S will be good, but then was reading about layers and they were saying the CM theme engine is not so good in terms of security or efficiency compared to the layers theming system?
I like CM 11S pretty well at this point, but I realy want to get behind (support/use) a great ROM that comes with something like AdAway pre-installed because I want to see good ad blockers included (built into) more ROMs and I want to support that. It's deeply discouraging to me when I can't find a great ROM with ad blocking baked in. Same with Privacy Guard - I don't think any ROM should come without Privacy Guard or equivalent baked in!!!
Thank you so much for your help/advice - believe me, I HAVE searched and read many threads, but I expect there are thousands of other people who have had their OPOs for weeks or months longer than me and can give me some solid advices!
Please resist the urge to simply tell me "Just try ROMs for yourself bro!" - I have done that before (on my Galaxy S3) I probably tried about 30 - 40 diff ROMs on that phone. At the moment, I look and read when I can, but before I flash I'd like to know if there are least a couple that at least have those basic features, and if not, I wonder why?
My best guess at this point is, I will need to stay with CM 11S and ad Xposed? I used Xposed a couple different times, but most recently it broke - the device still works, just Xposed was no longer compatible once it got an OTA update... I haven't put Xposed on my OPO yet as I didn't have much time for making backups/restoring re-flashing the phone in case it gets messed up because I have my kids over spring break for the next week and a half.
The only issues/missing features I'm currently experiencing with 11S are: haven't figured out how to set my system font (or perhaps my old type of font file is no longer compatible?), don't have adds blocked in apps yet, and I want to change the color of my clock in the status bar. I will go ahead and read through threads about putting Xposed on OPO - hopefully it can be added on 11S without causing any glitches?
Oh, and my [stock/unlocked/rooted CM11s] phone is not yet working for LTE - I have Walmart Family Mobile and I recently read that they have begun supported LTE. Sometimes it's just 3G and sometimes it's H+. I will call their support sometime over the next couple days because so far all I did was move the SIM card from my S3 to the OPO and perhaps it's not properly "provisioned(?)" for LTE yet? I say that because I watched one video on Youtube where a guy had to take his OPO to the AT&T store and put his SIM card in another LTE phone, then when he put the SIM back in the OPO, LTE started working on it.
Try Vanir-Exodus, there's a link to it in my signature. It has all those features except setting the system font (which I think you'll have a hard time finding as a stock feature in a ROM anyway), and the battery life is fantastic. Plus, it's mostly original development unlike a lot of the other ROMs out there which just cherry pick commits.
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Thank you for responding timmaaa,
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Try Vanir-Exodus, there's a link to it in my signature. It has all those features except setting the system font (which I think you'll have a hard time finding as a stock feature in a ROM anyway), and the battery life is fantastic. Plus, it's mostly original development unlike a lot of the other ROMs out there which just cherry pick commits.
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I was all set to try Exodus - but then I read some users mentioning some problems, and I think there was some important feature(s?) I wanted missing, so then I thought - oh, well I'm actually mostly happy with 11s.
The only things missing from 11s for me ATM are 1)haven't found how to change the system font yet,Adaway doesn't seem to block all the in app ads, and it doesn't come with Xposed "baked in".
If Exodus comes with Xposed pre-installed, then wouldn't that let me change the system font?
Basically I want to: set different system font, make the status bar clock green, and not give up Privacy Guard or Profiles - and of course not have to use a ROM with poor stability or poor battery life. My purpose is for the phone to be most enjoyable and useful to use, not to try a different ROM each week and find lots of bugs/glitches/wakelocks/missing features. I went through that with the S3...
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Thank you for responding timmaaa,
I was all set to try Exodus - but then I read some users mentioning some problems, and I think there was some important feature(s?) I wanted missing, so then I thought - oh, well I'm actually mostly happy with 11s.
The only things missing from 11s for me ATM are 1)haven't found how to change the system font yet,Adaway doesn't seem to block all the in app ads, and it doesn't come with Xposed "baked in".
If Exodus comes with Xposed pre-installed, then wouldn't that let me change the system font?
Basically I want to: set different system font, make the status bar clock green, and not give up Privacy Guard or Profiles - and of course not have to use a ROM with poor stability or poor battery life. My purpose is for the phone to be most enjoyable and useful to use, not to try a different ROM each week and find lots of bugs/glitches/wakelocks/missing features. I went through that with the S3...
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Honestly, I haven't had a single issue on Exodus. It doesn't come with Xposed pre-installed, but I'm not sure any ROM actually does. It has Privacy Guard, and it has Profiles. Battery life is excellent and it's as stable as they get.
Blisspop, or basically any ROM with CM themes do let you change the system font (it's part of themes).
like Team Nocturnal's latest ROM. Smooth, no bugs other for me. Never tried to set the font as of yet.
Every 5.1 or higher ROM I've tried had been buggier than EVERY 5.0.2 or 4.4.4 ROM I've tried.
I'm really hoping that some 5.1.x ROM comes out soon without apps crashing, graphics glitches, or wakelock problems.
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Every 5.1 or higher ROM I've tried had been buggier than EVERY 5.0.2 or 4.4.4 ROM I've tried.
I'm really hoping that some 5.1.x ROM comes out soon without apps crashing, graphics glitches, or wakelock problems.
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I've tried several 5.1 ROMs that are completely bug free, you might need to look at your setup.
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I've tried several 5.1 ROMs that are completely bug free, you might need to look at your setup.
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Which ROMs?
"Setup"? You're not suggesting that I should try without choosing a more reasonable DPI or give up on using the system font that I always use, or put up with ads or wakelocks, are you? Those are what I see as "basic and essential features".
I do "clean" installs and the only app I restore using Titanium Backup is "A Better Camera Unlocked". I use features such as Profiles, Users, and (hopefully) the ROM's built-in AdBlock (otherwise I use AdAway).
If a ROM requires that a third party patch be used to fix wakelock problems, then I'd consider it an "Alpha" at best?
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Which ROMs?
"Setup"? You're not suggesting that I should try without choosing a more reasonable DPI or give up on using the system font that I always use, or put up with ads or wakelocks, are you? Those are what I see as "basic and essential features".
I do "clean" installs and the only app I restore using Titanium Backup is "A Better Camera Unlocked". I use features such as Profiles, Users, and (hopefully) the ROM's built-in AdBlock (otherwise I use AdAway).
If a ROM requires that a third party patch be used to fix wakelock problems, then I'd consider it an "Alpha" at best?
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No I'm not suggesting that at all. I use a custom DPI (370). I use Adaway. I don't use a custom font though. Keep in mind that certain DPI's can and do cause major issues, so you might need to tweak that a little. As far as wakelocks go, no, I wouldn't consider them an Alpha at all. Wakelocks can be found in stock ROMs from the major OEM's, and isn't always caused by the system, quite often they can be caused by third party apps, and apps from within the gapps package.
Many people may be ask what is root? Surely most of you know there is an account called administrator in WINDOWS XP and it gets the highest permission to operate the system. Then, Root is to cell phones what administrator is to computer. Only after you root your phone can you have the permission to customize your phone.
Then can you share your root experience. I am considering whether to root my samsung phone.
Ahh for so many reasons. But to name a few: get rid of bloatware, block ads, listen youtube in the background, record my screen, most importantly customize your phone the way you like it and many many more
For more custom features and to make my phone more smoother. My stock rom was really freezy and laggy. When I rooted my phone and downloaded a new rom, my phone feels a lot more smoother.
Mainly for customization and for remove ads u.u
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that's one good short explanation
markdc said:
Ahh for so many reasons. But to name a few: get rid of bloatware, block ads, listen youtube in the background, record my screen, most importantly customize your phone the way you like it and many many more
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:good:It seems that there are many benefits to root the phone.
swaglordk said:
For more custom features and to make my phone more smoother. My stock rom was really freezy and laggy. When I rooted my phone and downloaded a new rom, my phone feels a lot more smoother.
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No wonder so many people want to root their phone.
To remove ADS, definitely. I understand the value of them, but I can't stand them...
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Install a custom ROM and you'll see why.
Rooting gives privilege , if you are not satisfies with what you have , default apps , any other think which can be modified only if rooted .Although i you wont be having company warranty anymore.
I saw this great reddit comment that summed me up pretty well; for a while I did the whole root thing. Loved it. Tweaking every tiny detail of a phone, getting access to insanely powerful apps, etc.
But it all started souring. Confession: I'm a convert from Linux and Windows to Mac. And that's because Mac's just work for me; when I'm needing to do something vital, I'd much rather something that is 50% less powerful but 100% stable. And I've found with my Galaxy Note 4, although I am annoyed at Touchwiz, at a lot of the stock touches, I much prefer having a non-rooted phone that, if/when an error happens, I know is nothing to do with me.
"My evolution using Android..
Get Android...
Learn to root..
Learn to flash ROM..
become flashaholic flashing multiple ROMs per day crack flashing.
Never having the same ROM/setup for two days in a row
Want more power....
Flash a custom kernel.....
OVERCLOCK!!
Too much battery being used
OVERCLOCK! UNDERVOLT!
Now horsepower is not so important.. Need more battery life...
UNDERCLOCK!!
Need to squeeze more battery life out of device
UNDERCLOCK!! UNDERVOLT!!!
Tired of custom kernel stability(even when not OC/UC UV)
Stock kernel... custom ROM, rooted..
Tired of all the bugs and little nuisances in custom ROMS..
Stock rom, stock kernel... still rooted of course
Root? I don't need root anymore..
Completely bone stock
The end..."
I root my device to get rid of bloatware, to install custom roms, to customize my device the way I want.
For best battery life.
- Remove bloat/spy/adware
- Titanium backup for easily migrating apps+data (including system apps) to other devices
- Micro-manage permissions of apps for security and efficiency.
- A good proxy/VPN app (if you've been to China you know what I mean).
- Killer youtube replacement app (downloads, plays in background, checks other video services, etc)
- Screen rec. app (pre-lollipop)
- Adaway (blocks adds even in games)
- Tasker
- Possibly to re-partition the eMMC --typically with those cheap 8GB devices that emulate an SD card and only have 1GB or so for apps. But that can be tricky. Would preferably try to flash a custom ROM/Recovery if possible, which is not really related to root.
- Also didn't add nandroid backups to the list because I don't tend to flash custom ROMs much.
I rooted my Samsung as soon as I got it in order to get rid of the unnecessary apps and save the ROM space. Enjoy my customized phone since I don't like the feeling being led by the rose.
I root my devices to use them to their highest potential and of course for Flashing various ROMS and Kernels
To become the original owner of my phone
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To become the original owner of my phone[emoji14]
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I root mainly for removing bloats and of course more customization.
manly to clean a lot of unnecessary apps in order to get more ram and faster device,also to put allays the software of the newer devises
Hello,
first, I have to admit, I have not much idea of custom roma and kernels.
I bought a new oneplus 6 a6003 8GB 128GB and Im thinking of installing a CustomROM, but Im not quite sure that its the right thing to do to match my user expectations. Ive read on reddit that many people are happy with the OEM Oxygen and that the dont see no need to install a CustomROM. Or does it makes sense to only change the kernel?
What I want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- stabme and reliable operation
- no pre-installed Bloatware
- no pre-installed indespensable google-apps and services
- nor other pre-installed undeletable Apps/Services
- eventually longer battery running time, but not if it would damage the battery over time and shorten its lifespan
- possibility to adjust fine settings like change the vibrationpattern for incoming calls/sms/notifications individually
- smooth parallel running of multiple apps
- automatic OTA updates
What I do NOT want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- putting my device at the risk of a write-off (or is ir always given when flashing other OS)?
- deterioration of stock performanceralating to the battery life time/ life span, reaction rate etc
- missing support of some (banking?) apps, cause they dont classify the new os as trustworthy
Thank you very much for your help
PS: While searching the web I found a lot threads on diferent forums where people compare they smartphones to the Google Pixel 3 (as the better device?) and install the google pixel 3 OS on their smartphones. whats so special about this phone/OS?
In my opinion all the custom ROM's have just as good battery life or slightly better then the stock Oxygen OS. Good thing about OnePlus phones is if you "brick" the device you can easily restore it with the MSM Download tool, so no need to worry about writing it off. If you want to remove all bloatware and control what google apps are installed maybe you would like OmniRom with a custom kernel (I feel like most of the kernels on here are all great, can't go wrong with any of the popular ones). If you want your phone to feel like the Pixel 3 (comes with a lot of google apps but using the OS feels pretty nice) I'd recommend the OmniTreskmod ROM.
If all you want to do is remove the bloatware xXxNoLimits ROM might be a good option. If you edit the script there are plenty of debloat options.
Hard to go wrong with this phone, it's pretty amazing. Good luck!
I recommend you:
treskmod
or stock + magisk + custom kernel
Do open beta 12 with smurfkernel
Settings for if you prefer battery life or performance.
I got an antutu score of 309,000 with smurfutil_flex
samsonix said:
Hello,
first, I have to admit, I have not much idea of custom roma and kernels.
I bought a new oneplus 6 a6003 8GB 128GB and Im thinking of installing a CustomROM, but Im not quite sure that its the right thing to do to match my user expectations. Ive read on reddit that many people are happy with the OEM Oxygen and that the dont see no need to install a CustomROM. Or does it makes sense to only change the kernel?
What I want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- stabme and reliable operation
- no pre-installed Bloatware
- no pre-installed indespensable google-apps and services
- nor other pre-installed undeletable Apps/Services
- eventually longer battery running time, but not if it would damage the battery over time and shorten its lifespan
- possibility to adjust fine settings like change the vibrationpattern for incoming calls/sms/notifications individually
- smooth parallel running of multiple apps
- automatic OTA updates
What I do NOT want to achieve by installing a CustomROM:
- putting my device at the risk of a write-off (or is ir always given when flashing other OS)?
- deterioration of stock performanceralating to the battery life time/ life span, reaction rate etc
- missing support of some (banking?) apps, cause they dont classify the new os as trustworthy
Thank you very much for your help
PS: While searching the web I found a lot threads on diferent forums where people compare they smartphones to the Google Pixel 3 (as the better device?) and install the google pixel 3 OS on their smartphones. whats so special about this phone/OS?
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If you want an incredibly customizable experience, you have to try havoc os. It doesn't come with gapps preinstalled and is compatible with microg and battery life is pretty good too. This rom is very stable as well and it is more customizable than any other oneplus 6 custom rom.
Liquid Remix seems to be more stable (than HavocOS) for me.
It has a great Battery life (without any GApps installed) and about the same amount of features as Havoc does.
GApps always impact the battery life quite negative, but I don't know how much the difference exactly is in comparison, because I never installed any GApps package
Anyway, I can recommend that you look inro this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/how-to/custom-rom-t3867290/
(The mentioned bugs for Liquid Remix are fixed in the recent releases)
For a clean, fast, reliable and polished ROM, you could try Pixel Experience. I've been using it on 3 phones, it's really amazing.
Or wait for Paranoid Android to get a bit more advanced. It's le Rolls Royce of Android ROMS.
About kernels, Smurf is my favourite. Awesome performance, AND awesome battery life. The phone last two days with a single charge and around 5h of screen-on time.
If you flash a custom ROM, wiping your phone data is mandatory though.
Edit : I'm a bit off topic, as you asked for something without preinstalled Google Apps and lots of customization, which is the opposite of Pixel Experience. I'm personally waiting for Paranoid Android, loved it since Nexus 4. This guys created head-up notifications, Oreo-style recents and floating window multitasking on Jelly Bean, for f*** sake, they are unbelievable.
Hi guys,
after almost 2 years with MIUI, Android 10 and Android 11 with MIUI 12.5, I would like to try a custom Android 12 rom before selling the device after the summer and buy something new.
As usual, there's a lot of custom roms. Even with A12. Onestly I would prefer to focus on a specific rom avoiding to try all the possibilities, this phone is my daily driver at the moment.
So I can see CrDroid, Evolution, Aosp, Voltage, Arrow... etc etc. Maybe seems a newbie question but which could be not a best rom but the first one to be tried ? Mainly I'm using the X3 to make call ( of course ), surf the web ( of course ), take photos to my children ( so the quality is very important for me ) and use it for GPS ( Mapy CZ and Here Maps ). With an eye on the battery duration...
Which A12 rom could be a good initial attempt ? Not so hard to be installed, I don't want to spend hours in bootloops or issues eheheh.
PYCON said:
Hi guys,
after almost 2 years with MIUI, Android 10 and Android 11 with MIUI 12.5, I would like to try a custom Android 12 rom before selling the device after the summer and buy something new.
As usual, there's a lot of custom roms. Even with A12. Onestly I would prefer to focus on a specific rom avoiding to try all the possibilities, this phone is my daily driver at the moment.
So I can see CrDroid, Evolution, Aosp, Voltage, Arrow... etc etc. Maybe seems a newbie question but which could be not a best rom but the first one to be tried ? Mainly I'm using the X3 to make call ( of course ), surf the web ( of course ), take photos to my children ( so the quality is very important for me ) and use it for GPS ( Mapy CZ and Here Maps ). With an eye on the battery duration...
Which A12 rom could be a good initial attempt ? Not so hard to be installed, I don't want to spend hours in bootloops or issues eheheh.
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If you want something stable with good long-time support, there's only Lineage, ArrowOS and maybe AospExtended
If you take lot of photos, ArrowOS offers you unlimited storage in Google Photos. In Lineage you can add that feature using a Magisk module.
I went with ArrowOS for the unlimited photo storage and a few pixel features.
I have found a phone app that automatically records all calls and a Gcam that makes great photos.
Everything is better than MIUI really
On other phones, I was happy using AOSP Ext and CrDroid. What about this last one? I can start trying Arrow maybe...
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On other phones, I was happy using AOSP Ext and CrDroid. What about this last one? I can start trying Arrow maybe...
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CrDroid should be good as well.
The developer made a break of 2 - 3 because he gave the phone to his wife but now it continues to receive regular updates.
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If you want something stable with good long-time support, there's only Lineage, ArrowOS and maybe AospExtended
If you take lot of photos, ArrowOS offers you unlimited storage in Google Photos. In Lineage you can add that feature using a Magisk module.
I went with ArrowOS for the unlimited photo storage and a few pixel features.
I have found a phone app that automatically records all calls and a Gcam that makes great photos.
Everything is better than MIUI really
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Could you provide the name of that phone app that records calls and gcam which makes great photos?
I am looking for exactly the same thing as the op. Right now on stock but it is so sloow
no1geek said:
Could you provide the name of that phone app that records calls and gcam which makes great photos?
I am looking for exactly the same thing as the op. Right now on stock but it is so sloow
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AOSP dialer has to be installed in Magisk.
GPay SQLiteFix is a fix to make Google pay work, has to be flashed in Magisk as well.
After installing Aspen (GCam mod) create a folder called ConfigsSettings8 on your phone's storage and paste the aspen2.xml there.
Start Aspen, double click on the black area of the screen and select aspen2.xml
@Noter2017: I'm curious here about your setup, so a few questions?
Is Bluetooth working alright with external audio devices?
Does GPS work reliably?
Is general wireless connectivity stable?
Can advanced reboot be enabled easily?
Is button navigation possible and can buttons be reversed?
I see you have Magisk, so no questions about rooting...
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@Noter2017: I'm curious here about your setup, so a few questions?
Is Bluetooth working alright with external audio devices?
Does GPS work reliably?
Is general wireless connectivity stable?
Can advanced reboot be enabled easily?
Is button navigation possible and can buttons be reversed?
I see you have Magisk, so no questions about rooting...
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1) Bluetooth works fine for me. I use it with my Mi Band and a portable speaker. Personally I never had problems with Bluetooth, no matter which ROM I used.
2) I use GPS on a daily basis and it also works.
3) Works. With a speedtest get 400 Mbps on my 5 GHz WiFi at home (1 Gbps cable).
4) Can be enabled in Settings - Gestures
5) I use button navigation and didn't face any problems. You can revert the layout in Settings - Gestures - System navigation
Only problem I face after moving to ArrowOS 12.1 was that some backups made with Migrate didn't work. A few apps would crash immediately (Tailscale, for example) after starting (had to clear storage), my taxi app asked to verify my credit card again which didn't work. Had to remove and add the same card again.
Also customization is pretty much absent which might be a problem for some people.
I had a long free weekend, so I decided to spend a few hours upgrading. If the ArrowOS wouldn't have worked reliably, I would have changed ROMs to something else. ArrowOS 12 is EOL and I will stick with ArrowOS 12.1 till the end of the year. Really getting too old to do clean flashes all the time
I think CrDroid 12 (8.4) is superior. I use it with ANXcamera and Magisk
Most people seem fairly happy with the stock pixel user experience, after all a main reason we purchase pixels is because of it's software.
in your experience, is there any benefit to any of the currently available custom roms that would increase performance and battery? I mean something bigger than just customisability and tinkering
I've been debating this too. I haven't rooted a device in 4 years. No real reason to anymore. I'm on the fence because I'm hoping for a true blackout theme and better animation transitions on a custom rom. Haven't pulled the trigger yet.
Performance, efficiency, and control over fast more than what Google chooses to provide.
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Performance, efficiency, and control over fast more than what Google chooses to provide.
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What roms are you referring to?
It has been scientifically proven that running custom kernels and/or roms helps to minimize E.D.
Mainly battery life. I have to charge my phone once every 1-1.5 weeks or so, vs every or every other day like most people.
*Keeping the screen brightness only as bright as you need it (i.e. not ecessively set or maxxed out--I keep mine around 1/4 maybe touch more, on the brightness slider.
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I have to charge my phone once every 1-1.5 weeks or so
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Bruh, do you even use your phone at all? What ROM makes such a huge difference for your use to extend your battery life from 1 day to over 7 days?
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Literally any?
GrapheneOS gets rid of all Google Services, thus (and overall) it's a lot more privacy-focused.
Performance isn't a huge issue on Pixel devices (imo), because the ROM they come with isn't super bloated, but you can always just use LineageOS, or any other barebones ROM if you don't need any fancy features, only sleek (slick?) performance.
I have always been a fan of ResurrectionRemix/crDroid, which are filled with TONS of features. Sure, depending on who you are, you might not care for most/some of them (double tapping on statusbar to lock the screen, changing the animation of quick settings tiles when you tap on them, blinking the flashlight when you receive a call, and many, many other small things).
Nowadays, even ROMs like this aren't hogging up your performance or ruin your battery life.
Besides flashing custom ROMs, rooting is still useful for me.
Yeah, getting SafetyNet to pass can be a bit of a hassle, but in exchange I get to use ACC to prolong my battery's health, I can get rid of the navbar pill, and I can use an lsposed module to disable secure flag in my transportation app, so I can take a screenshot of my ticket (should the inspector come when there's no cellular connection (and the app doesn't properly cache the ticket, because of great programming )).
None of these are deal-breakers, but as long as there's still an option for doing these, I wouldn't want to miss out.
Radjah2001 said:
in your experience, is there any benefit to any of the currently available custom roms that would increase performance and battery? I mean something bigger than just customisability and tinkering
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Battery life and performance is pretty good as is. The stock rom on Pixels isn't super bloated, so it's not like it has much of an effect on battery or the performance of your phone. With the stock kernel I lost about 0.6% of battery every hour overnight, with MVK kernel that number got reduced to about 0.4%. Does it make a difference? Not at all.
I guess you could root and use a kernel manager to downclock the CPU to gain some extra SoT, but that's about it. If you're not much of a tinkerer, and content with your current setup, there's no real reason to switch to something else.
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Bruh, do you even use your phone at all? What ROM makes such a huge difference for your use to extend your battery life from 1 day to over 7 days?
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Not really. I have no friends. <s>
I'll use it outside/on road but even then, phone conversations and internet browsing is not very much. Here and there, etc. Mostly texts or instant msgs.But calls here and there. I have it set to charge max 75% and will recharge when it gets to around 20%. Running LineageOS w/ the kernel it comes with it. Nothing fancy. I don't use any social media app (or social media or that matter), so I don't have to worry about that stuff draining the battery. WiFI and/or VPN will so I tend to keep them turned off until I need them. If I used phone more regularly, I could see myself having to recharge it maybe every 3-4 days maybe, I dunno.
Battery life can actually be worse on custom ROMs that do not have Google Play Services. When an app uses Play Svcs to handle push notifications, things like notification pushes get are managed and batched together by Play Services. If a phone does not have Play Svcs, apps that use cloud notifications may have to register their own persistent polling services which can chew up battery. And then you have to disable battery optimization for that app so it doesn't get dozed.
I've at least heard anecdotal evidence that battery life suffers on GrapheneOS because of this. Say, if you have an email client and messaging apps that require a persistent polling service to look for new messages.
Nowadays when I look up reasons to use ROMs or root, I get annoyed when articles list modules or features that serve to fix the issues that the act of making these changes cause (eg- hide root from other apps, force apps to doze, magisk bootloop saver, etc). I mean now you're spending the time managing the problem you've created for yourself. It's silly. Unless there are practical reasons to customize, I see no compelling reason to do so.
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Battery life can actually be worse on custom ROMs that do not have Google Play Services. When an app uses Play Svcs to handle push notifications, things like notification pushes get are managed and batched together by Play Services. If a phone does not have Play Svcs, apps that use cloud notifications may have to register their own persistent polling services which can chew up battery. And then you have to disable battery optimization for that app so it doesn't get dozed.
I've at least heard anecdotal evidence that battery life suffers on GrapheneOS because of this. Say, if you have an email client and messaging apps that require a persistent polling service to look for new messages.
Nowadays when I look up reasons to use ROMs or root, I get annoyed when articles list modules or features that serve to fix the issues that the act of making these changes cause (eg- hide root from other apps, force apps to doze, magisk bootloop saver, etc). I mean now you're spending the time managing the problem you've created for yourself. It's silly. Unless there are practical reasons to customize, I see no compelling reason to do so.
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Very well said. I've been thinking the same. Google does there optimizations pretty well and they have given even more options to even tinker with a lil more effecient as per your need. There's no need to go out of the way replace the whole rom. even if you do you should have a very good reason and it should have some very noticable difference that can be seen to any one... Though i always have a soft corner for the modding community. Because of their push oems are stepping up their game.
Interesting. I do have Gapps installed and regarding polling the servers, while I myself haven't had battery drain, I can definitely attest to custom roms possibly messing with polling. On my old M8 (which also had Lineage), if the phone was on standby for a long time, I would not get ANY text or IMs unless I turned on the screen, THEN I'd get a bunch of messages. Or even if the phone was on, I would have to send a text message to myself and then I'd get a bunch back from people. So, yes at least on that phone there was serious polling issues I opened myself up with.
Currently I am on the newer phone(s), which I don't experience those issues, but you are absolutely right about them.
smokejumper76 said:
if the phone was on standby for a long time, I would not get ANY text or IMs unless I turned on the screen, THEN I'd get a bunch of messages.
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I've also experienced that issue on my 3T running.. any custom ROM, basically. I think it's mostly fixed on newer ROMs though. YMMV.
Radjah2001 said:
Most people seem fairly happy with the stock pixel user experience, after all a main reason we purchase pixels is because of it's software.
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Speak for yourself. I bought pixel for the HARDWARE, and specifically the fact that it isn't crippled (locked) and is properly supported in AOSP. The factory prebuilt software is utter trash with one purpose and one purpose ONLY: To track everything you do.
In order to safely use the hardware, it is NECESSARY to wipe the spyware from it. Either build AOSP from source yourself, or use a security focused distribution like GrapheneOS.
Lada333 said:
Besides flashing custom ROMs, rooting is still useful for me.
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Add possibly Viper4Android on A13 some day and its perfect.
Safetynet / play integrity & hide root is pretty easy on stock, but did you have success on custom Roms?
My banking app doesnt even rely on Safetynet / play integrity and checks for root itself, but shamiko takes care of that, but I suspect it would detect a custom Rom and refuse to work.
An entire Rom would probably much harder to hide than just root.
G5-User7080 said:
Add possibly Viper4Android
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Never really saw the need/use for v4a.
G5-User7080 said:
Safetynet / play integrity & hide root is pretty easy on stock, but did you have success on custom Roms?
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Sure. Never had issues. Besides adding my banking apps to the DenyList, I also had to hide the Magisk app. What I've found is that some apps may look for the Magisk app being installed on your device (you don't even necessarily need to be rooted, just have Magisk installed).
Love the warped perspective a few posts up. Reminder to all on the risks of oxygen deprivation at birth
Lada333 said:
Never really saw the need/use for v4a.
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I really hope someone finds out how to make it work on A13 soon, luckily my music app has an eq so its not like it sounds bad, but what I mostly miss is replay gain ig, when I'm outside music with a wider dynamic range is a bit of a problem, the quieter parts just drown in the outside noise.
Sure. Never had issues. Besides adding my banking apps to the DenyList, I also had to hide the Magisk app. What I've found is that some apps may look for the Magisk app being installed on your device (you don't even necessarily need to be rooted, just have Magisk installed).
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yes, mine do, hideMyApplist takes care of that, for some reason when I hide magisk App, it gets picket up by AppListDetector (well not by my banking app at least).
I kinda wanna try a custom ROM but flashing an entire new ROM is a lot scarier than just rooting stock, like some apps might not be working cause they rely on google services etc, maybe when I buy a new phone in a few years and this one doesnt get updates anymore I could try that.
DB126 said:
Love the warped perspective a few posts up. Reminder to all on the risks of oxygen deprivation at birth
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With all the scandals involving big tech all the time, do you really wonder why people distrust google & co?
In the end it's probably never as bad as you fear and never as good as you hope.
A13 has some nice privacy protecting features built in, like Android System Intelligence all happens on device, then again, gboard, google app, etc don't, ig u get a little bit of everything.
You can never be completely private, and for that reason some of my friends say "Well then it doesn't matter anyway, just know everything about me idc" and some others be like "ill just stop using all their services alltogether"
In the end everyone can do what they want cant they?
G5-User7080 said:
like some apps might not be working cause they rely on google services etc
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um, so?
Even if the ROM of your choice doesn't come with GApps preinstalled, you can always just sideload MindTheGapps.