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Just bought a Z3 and it has the faintest hairline crack across the middle of the back glass, which to be honest really doesn't bother me at all, as I got the phone for a very good price, but just wondered will this make the phone NON-WATERPROOF ?
I'm not sure. There was a story of one Z2 surviving in over 10m/30ft of sea water for several weeks with no water damage. In the article there were a few pics and the back cover was severely cracked.
You could always try the pressure test - http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886
shtepsel said:
I'm not sure. There was a story of one Z2 surviving in over 10m/30ft of sea water for several weeks with no water damage. In the article there were a few pics and the back cover was severely cracked.
You could always try the pressure test - http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886
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Wow, thanks for that tip, just did that test and the pressure increased each time, so I guess its OK then, right time to jump in the bath
Are you really going to take your phone with you in the bath and submerge it for no reason? Hot water viscosity will be different to cold and easier to get inside your phone.
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Are you really going to take your phone with you in the bath and submerge it for no reason? Hot water viscosity will be different to cold and easier to get inside your phone.
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No only kidding, as long as the z3 holds up if it gets wet whilst out on a run or using in the rain, I'll be happy. Not going to be submerging it any time soon.
I'd put some duct tape on it. Good to go.
There is a pressure test in this forum that using service menu that will give you an idea. Mine has a crack but is still waterproof. By that, I've only had it splashed and dipped quickly in a pool. I wouldn't take it very deep as I imagine the water pressure would open the crack a bit wider and let water in (however I'm not sure if the glass is the phone colour or if the glass is clear and the phone colour is a plastic cover behind the glass which would mean help with stopping water getting in after a crack)
Has any brave soul tried this feature? If so give us your experience!
Personally I have not, knowing my luck my device would be the one with faulty ports/leaks ?
Some people have tried it and damaged their phone. Others have been fine. The phone is water resistant not waterproof so I would recommend against dipping it in water.
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I personally placed my wife's S7 Edge screen under a running tap for a few seconds. Phone still works fine. Having said that the iPhone 6S has some great water resistant features and it doesn't even have an IP rating. Yet my old iPhone 5s died after siting in a little puddle of water on the bathroom basin bench, which was barely as deep as the back cover. At least with some certified proof of water resistance protection on the S7's, I won't be taking mine swimming or showering, but its surely great to know that it could
handle some very common water contact.
If it spoils easily regardlessof having water resistance why does samsung make all these ads with lil john dunking his phone in the aquarium and whatnot. Theyre tempting us to do so and if the phone is broken they should never void the warranty as long as it adheres to the phone being not deeper than 1.5 meters for not longer than 30 mins
As above, i've run mine under the tap a few times and it's been fine. I've never submerged it though, I don't dare yet. I also don't have a need to, so don't anticipate I will anytime soon.
I finally had it tested and it was an accidental situation which makes it seem useful and not just intentionally testing it for the sake of it. We left my wife's S7 on the coffee table and there was a cup of water on there. We came back and the water got knocked over, the phone was kind of in a puddle of it. I was actually excited to test it, but pissed that my cat has been ****ing with filled cups of water lately.
Tried dipping it while i was in the gym pool lol charged it after 2 hrs moisture detected, wiped the inside with some tissue all good ?
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I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
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I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
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that's all true but they get you with the "water pressure" crap. running it under a slowly pouring tap should be fine, but running it under heavy/fast flowing water flowing from the tap could be a problem, also the entire submersion thing, drop it in slow it should be fine, throw it in water and it could cause issues.
The IP68 rating is simply a bonus for me. I will treat it no differently than any other phone but it's good to know that, should an accident occur, and it ends up in the sink or something similar, it should be alright. Being able to use it in the rain is quite nice too. However, people who put their new phone in a bowl of water the day they get it to prove some sort of point deserve any issues they end up with.
1.5m 30mins. With that rating i would say it's safe to bring it with you when you swim(not dive), and would not recommend to bring it to snorkel. I saw someone dropped their phone to a 40 feet river.. that for sure are gonna break the phone..
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BTW, make sure you never subject it to soapy water. Its water resistance relies on the surface tension of the water. Soap lowers water's surface tension, allowing the water to flow into places it normally wouldn't, as this guy found out the hard way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/water-damage-story-t3337463
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I use it to watch the news in the shower every day, and I tested under running water for a few minutes when I first got it. Water proofing is the biggest single reason why I bought this phone. If it doesn't work as advertised, I would have returned it. This thing is designed to handle water, so don't be afraid. I wouldn't swim with it, but a couple of drops of water from the shower or caught out in a rain storm, are nothing to worry about.
It is sold as a waterproof phone, not just water resistant. IP68 means full submersion in water, up to 5 feet for 30 minutes. That is waterproof. If the device fails from less than that, Samsung would legally have to replace it for you under warranty.
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doing the same as you better to test the warranty while its still hot
it froze on me on 2nd shower, high pressure test video recording but im sure it was the fact that ive got like 5% space left on the memory.
I also run it under cold fast water if it heats up, i do block the charge port, then its cooled down enough for some day charging...
its quite a well built phone and I would be shocked if it does get water damage, but im worried, samy warranty is good service.
I couldn't resist testing this out. After all, if it's not working as advertised I'd want a replacement. So I filled up the sink and then carefully placed the phone at the bottom. The screen doesn't work while under water but once I took it out everything was back to normal. Awesome feature!
I don't need the water resistance features of the phone, but I do believe that if it's water resistant then it's less likely for moisture and corrosion to hamper with buttons, contacts and other internals. I had 3-4 phones with unresponsive power buttons over time, so if Samsung used good, oxidation-resistant materials for water resistance purposes then it will probably be beneficial for overall mechanical health of the phone as well.
Anyone else have any experiences to share?
Was at a party this past weekend with a lot of friends. I had my phone in my hand, browsing something, and my buddy asked what phone I had. When I told him it was the S7 Edge, he promptly entered Lil Wayne mode and poured his beer onto my phone. Laughs were had. Took it to the bathroom and rinsed it under the sink for a few seconds, and all is well.
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Anyone else have any experiences to share?
Was at a party this past weekend with a lot of friends. I had my phone in my hand, browsing something, and my buddy asked what phone I had. When I told him it was the S7 Edge, he promptly entered Lil Wayne mode and poured his beer onto my phone. Laughs were had. Took it to the bathroom and rinsed it under the sink for a few seconds, and all is well.
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If someone did this to my phone without my consent I would enter Bruce Lee mode with them.
Ontopic: I tested my phone a lot. When I first got it I washed it with clean water everyday. I also washed it with soap a few times, I never had any problems.
After I received my dbrand skin I also washed it a couple of times, once with soap as well, to make sure the skin is water resistant (it is).
Now that the "new toy" syndrome has passed, I use my phone normally, but if someone asked me to take a selfie while the phone is underwater, I would do it
Dropped my phone in the bath and continued to leave it in there to show it off to the mrs as her iphone can't do it. Screen came out working fine including buttons, however the speaker was very distorted which kinda made me panic but it dried out overnight and all was well in the morning.
Needless to say I never lost my nerve round my partner and kept echoing your iPhone can't do that....
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If someone did this to my phone without my consent I would enter Bruce Lee mode with them.
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Haha, well since it was in my hand it's not like it got very wet. With the water resistance, I really didn't care. Gave me my first opportunity to test it out.
My son wanted to get a video underwater at the pool last weekend.
https://youtu.be/3UL4qcH7rJs
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I personally wouldn't dare to do it. Knowing my luck, I'll probably have a faulty device lolol
Took the s8+ to the pool several times over the week. Was fine. Just need to wait for charging port to dry; but the s8 gives warning sign if you plug your phone with a wet port. No worries at all.
Washed mine under the tap , delicate flow, after eating greasy food.
Haven't dared since the day my Sony Xperia Z3 went in the bath with its IP68 rating and I was greeted with bubbles as the phone filled up!
I got a replacement but still, twitchy bum time
Had a bucket of water poured on mine by a young family member. It was in an otterbox defender and didn't have any issues at all.
I always take my S8+ with me, also under water.
I don't know why, but I feel much safer than with my old S7 edge.
Charging... I always user wireless charge at work and in my car, so my S8 is always full at home and I never need an cable .
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I always take my S8+ with me, also under water.
I don't know why, but I feel much safer than with my old S7 edge.
Charging... I always user wireless charge at work and in my car, so my S8 is always full at home and I never need an cable .
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Is that in fresh water? Or salt water? I've heard salt water is no good to any of the water resistant devices. I just ordered my device so I'm doing some preliminary learning
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Is that in fresh water? Or salt water? I've heard salt water is no good to any of the water resistant devices. I just ordered my device so I'm doing some preliminary learning
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It would have to be freshwater purely based off the fact tadpoles cannot survive in saltwater. Chlorinated or salt water can attack and erode the rubber gaskets and seals that protect your device from water. Overtime these could weaken, leaving your phone exposed to damage from moisture, not to mention salt water is a good conductor of electricity.
Here in Australia a screen replacement for this device is $700AUD so I've just got mine in a Lifeproof case regardless of any IP ratings.
Just in case anyone is wondering like I was, I cannot recommend the Lifeproof FRE for Galaxy S8 as there's such a big gap between the front plastic screen cover and the actual LCD itself. I basically have to hammer the screen to type and it makes these "clacking noises" as the screen comes in contact with the plastic.
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It would have to be freshwater purely based off the fact tadpoles cannot survive in saltwater. Chlorinated or salt water can attack and erode the rubber gaskets and seals that protect your device from water. Overtime these could weaken, leaving your phone exposed to damage from moisture, not to mention salt water is a good conductor of electricity.
Here in Australia a screen replacement for this device is $700AUD so I've just got mine in a Lifeproof case regardless of any IP ratings.
Just in case anyone is wondering like I was, I cannot recommend the Lifeproof FRE for Galaxy S8 as there's such a big gap between the front plastic screen cover and the actual LCD itself. I basically have to hammer the screen to type and it makes these "clacking noises" as the screen comes in contact with the plastic.
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Since you're in Australia... Take the case to the place of purchase and ask for a full refund. According to Consumer Affairs, if a product does not work as advertised you're entitled for a replacement or a refund.
Lifeproof cases are very expensive (over $AU100). You expect them to be perfect at that price!
Well I had my first experience
Spilt warm coffee on my phone.
Ran to the hotel sink and washed off the phone.
Blow dried it to get rid of the moisture in the speaker grill and charging port. Good as new!!
Cheap waterproof case...
Last week I decided to take an image under water (fresh). Put her in at least three different times. Got a notification saying there was water detected in the charging port and to make sure it is dry before using. Today, my s8 is still working like new. Here's the image I got (unedited)!
Now that the Pixel 2 is water resistant, does anyone get their phone wet or in water often ? I recently took mine hiking which was perfect for the camera, and after the trip it was dusty and oily from use. I took the phone and turned it off and submerged it in warm water and washed it for a few minutes and let it dry. Now it is clean and good to go no problems. I generally don't get my phone wet often, but I'll probably start washing it after trips like these.
Just be careful you don't make the water too warm, and absolutely don't use soap. This sort of waterproofing takes advantage of surface tension, and either of those two things can defeat it and let water seep in.
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Now that the Pixel 2 is water resistant, does anyone get their phone wet or in water often ? I recently took mine hiking which was perfect for the camera, and after the trip it was dusty and oily from use. I took the phone and turned it off and submerged it in warm water and washed it for a few minutes and let it dry. Now it is clean and good to go no problems. I generally don't get my phone wet often, but I'll probably start washing it after trips like these.
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I only have one thing to say. You're either braver or crazier than i am. I haven't yet figured out which one it is though.
Just when I turn it on ? But seriously, I feel like I can help you out here. Since I'm an auto detailer for a living I can tell you that water does not clean oil at all. And it's highly unadvisable to get your pixel that wet on purpose. I recommend a high quality microfiber towel and a spritz or two of rinceless wash on the towel. I use Carpro EcH2O but any rinceless wash will do. Nice thing about Carpro EcH2O is that there is ceramic coating properties within it so you're adding a bit of ceramic protection to the screen and enclosure of the phone. This not only adds a protective barrier but also keeps it cleaner and easier to clean in the even it does get dirty. That product must be diluted and will last you a lifetime and you can use it on your car as well. But in a pinch I would use Isopropanol Alcohol on a microfiber and that will do just as good of a job cleaning it up without getting the phone wet. Hope this helps you.
I saw a YouTube video of a guy who took his pixel 2 into the pool and even though it survived, the speaker output was drastically reduced, even after it dried. I wouldn't intentionally submerge any device. The water proofing is for emergency only.
I wash my Pixel 2 phone occasionally. I had an S7 Edge that I washed all the time and used for underwater photography. I've only submerged my Pixel 2 for photos once or twice, and so far so good.
One warning though, your USB cable isn't waterproof. I toasted a couple USB cords with a wet USB port before I realized what was going on. Consider covering up the USB port when you're getting your phone wet, and make sure it's dry before you charge it.
Almost every time both phones got submerged, the speaker was weird for a few hours. Once it dried out it was fine.
But you know, YMMV.
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Oh also, remember that fast moving water can push it's way into the waterproofing a lot faster than water pressure alone. I always try to avoid water coming straight out of the faucet into a hole or seam.
So I didn't get the insurance for my wife's Pixel 4a and it (and my Pixel 4) were submerged in water at Busch Gardens for about 5 minutes at about 3 feet deep. My Pixel 4 works fine and hers is dead. They were both in a plastic "protective" phone bag that was fully sealed. Somehow water got inside the bag, maybe a tiny pinhole I couldn't see. It's currently sitting in a bowl of rice as I don't have any silica gels at the moment. It's been in rice for over 12 hours but still won't start and I can still see condensation inside the camera lenses. She is currently using my old Pixel 2XL so we're good there. I am hoping I can bring this back to life. Any ideas?
Hardly would you be able to sort that out. I have managed to get mine out with rice but that was before the damage became irreversible which is your case I guess.
Please keep us updated.
So did drying out the phone work ok?
Forget the rice... voodoo would work better.
You need to take off the rear cover asap and disconnect the battery to avoid permanent damage.
The clock is ticking Mr Wick... tic-tok...
Use anhydrous isopropyl alcohol* to absorb the water. Flush liberally but make it fast. Displace as much as the alcohol as fast as possible next.
Low pressure (10-15 psi) compressed clean air can be used. Best done in a dry room to prevent condensation. Remove as much as possible.
Allow to dry in a warm dry room with a fan on it for at least 2 days before connecting the battery.
You could forego the isopropyl alcohol and just use this last step extended to a week but no water can remain. I reccomend using the isopropyl for large amounts of water. The BGA chipsets have their contacts under them, these must be 100% dry... you can't visually inspect them. All switches and micro connectors must be dry. No water at all in the phone when done.
Next time double bag in zip lock freezer bags... better yet, don't bring phones.
* it is flammable... don't get stupid. Take care not to get it in between the display and glass if this possible to do as it would leave a residue.
Use your best judgment.