[Discussion] Help with MicroG and GMS - Huawei P40 Pro Questions & Answers

[Discussion] Help with MicroG and GMS - Huawei P40 Pro Questions & Answers

Hello XDA people
I have a simple, yet complex question to solve
So we all know that the P40 Pro can install GMS services, but notifications do not work on it
This reddit post I found: Notification fix
Uses MicroG to fix their notification, but installing MicroG whilst having GMS installed is not possible unless uninstalling GMS and installing MicroG, which then loses the ability for google on the phone
Is there any sort of way to install both MicroG and it's services with GMS still installed onto the phone? It doesn't matter if I have to downgrade my phone I just need any method that works and fixes my discord push notifications whilst keeping my GMS services
Thank you

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Advice for a new owner

I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered my P40 Pro which should arrive in a few days. I have done some reading around as to whether to go GMS-naked or not and have a few questions still to help make my decision, hoping someone can help...
1) I currently have a Mate Pro 20, so I would be looking to clone my apps over. My understanding is that I can expect the vast majority of them to copy over (even if not on Huawei's AppGallery) but if I was to go GMS-naked, am I right in thinking that these apps would then never update (unless they are on AppGallery)?
2) Without installing GMS, is there any way of getting Chrome working? I use it as my browser on my tablet and desktop and it's helpful to have that sync so would really ideally like it on my phone.
3) Same as question 2 but regarding Google Suite apps such as Sheets and Docs - any hope in getting them without GMS?
4) I have read some positive reviews regarding BlueMail, is it possible to use this for Gmail accounts without GMS?
5) Without GMS, will UK banking apps only work if already on AppGallery? I currently use Starling, First Direct & NatWest - especially the former two so hoping that they would work.
6) If I did go down the GMS route, would I need to be reinstalling it every time there is an Android or Google update or would it be a one-off?

Thank you, really helpful!! Good to know about Starling.
I don't suppose anyone else knows the answers to questions 1-4?

Tmel14 said:
I've taken the plunge and pre-ordered my P40 Pro which should arrive in a few days. I have done some reading around as to whether to go GMS-naked or not and have a few questions still to help make my decision, hoping someone can help...
1) I currently have a Mate Pro 20, so I would be looking to clone my apps over. My understanding is that I can expect the vast majority of them to copy over (even if not on Huawei's AppGallery) but if I was to go GMS-naked, am I right in thinking that these apps would then never update (unless they are on AppGallery)?
2) Without installing GMS, is there any way of getting Chrome working? I use it as my browser on my tablet and desktop and it's helpful to have that sync so would really ideally like it on my phone.
3) Same as question 2 but regarding Google Suite apps such as Sheets and Docs - any hope in getting them without GMS?
4) I have read some positive reviews regarding BlueMail, is it possible to use this for Gmail accounts without GMS?
5) Without GMS, will UK banking apps only work if already on AppGallery? I currently use Starling, First Direct & NatWest - especially the former two so hoping that they would work.
6) If I did go down the GMS route, would I need to be reinstalling it every time there is an Android or Google update or would it be a one-off?
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1. Most can be phone-cloned. They will not update unless you install Aurora, APKPure, Aptoide, Amazon App Store .. just install all of these and pick your favourite. Notifications wont work for most.
2. Firefox is better and can sync across devices.
3. Part of the attraction of the P40 Pro is going google-free for the challenge and to support Huawei .. I am using Office from the Huawei App Gallery.
4. Despite being on the Huawei App Gallery, BlueMail notifications were unreliable with HMS-naked ... warning message that no Google Cloud Messaging is installed .. that you had to clear evey day or two .. and people that are using BlueMail don't realise that notifications are delayed for a while. BlueMail is a bad app at the moment.
5. Banking apps .. phone-clone or install from Aurora, APKPure, Aptoide, Amazon App Store ... my banks are working fine . not too many people are reporting problems.
6. Why do you need GMS? Have they fixed notifications with a GMS install? microG is a much simpler and more reliable solution at the moment to give you notifications and you can still get apps from Aurora, APKPure, Aptoide, Amazon App Store.
If you find a reason that HMS-naked and HMS-microG are not acceptable ... and you really have to do a HMS-GMS setup, then I would not buy the P40 Pro ... just get the P30 Pro.

4. I used the stock Huawei email application. Lets you add multiple accounts (gmail/outlook) and gives you notifications without issue. I ended up preferring it to Gmail/Outlook app.
5. I don't have my P40 Pro any longer, but when I did FirstDirect app worked fine through GMS. Monzo bank did also. I downloaded NatWest and it worked but I didn't have an account so couldn't actually log in.
6. You only lose your GMS install if you factory reset. Software updates don't affect it.

Kotd88 said:
4. I used the stock Huawei email application. Lets you add multiple accounts (gmail/outlook) and gives you notifications without issue. I ended up preferring it to Gmail/Outlook app.
5. I don't have my P40 Pro any longer, but when I did FirstDirect app worked fine through GMS. Monzo bank did also. I downloaded NatWest and it worked but I didn't have an account so couldn't actually log in.
6. You only lose your GMS install if you factory reset. Software updates don't affect it.
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4. with my testing on P40 Pro with HMS-naked, the notifications with the Huawei email app are delayed .. particularly with a linked gmail account in the Huawei email app.
is your feedback with HMS-naked, HMS+microG or HMS+GMS?

linux2525 said:
4. with my testing on P40 Pro with HMS-naked, the notifications with the Huawei email app are delayed .. particularly with a linked gmail account in the Huawei email app.
is your feedback with HMS-naked, HMS+microG or HMS+GMS?
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I pretty much used the phone out the box with GMS, so maybe that's why I had a different experience. Gmail and Outlook definitely came through with timely notifications using stock app for me.

DaveHTC200 said:
Regarding #5.
Starling works, though Natwest will not either with or without GMS sadly.
I now use yolt which will sync your account for the next best alternative.
#6,
Currently any updates haven't mean a reinstallation of anything.
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I have had a mate30 pro for about 4 months and ive not had any struggles, Depending on who you bank with currently you may not be able to get an 'app' but what you can do is save a hot link, So from the browser hit the dots on the top right and add to home screen, What you can do which is what ive done is saved a link with in the login page, really for me it does the same thing shows my balance and that's it really.
I mean if you're looking for apps through app gallery there is 2 key ones I would really recommend one is MoreApps and one is Petal both of which once installed act as a hub for other apps you may need. Its one that I know I've relied on hugely.
Other than that how you getting on with it?

It arrived yesterday and really it's a beautiful phone! Haven't had too much time to play with it yet but seems great.
I cloned over my apps from my Mate Pro20 and had a quick play. All of my WhatsApp history seemed to automatically copy over which is great. My main issue so far is that a couple of apps I have tried to use (e.g. The Athletic) say that Google Services Installation Required in order to use them. If hey are not on AppStore, is there any way I can use them as apps without GMS?
Similar question for other apps that I have cloned over such as betting apps. When I load them it says that location services must be enabled to use the app (which they are) but it doesn't eem to be picking up on this (probably GMS related?).
Are More Apps & Petal a way round sourcing apps not on AppStore but without having to install GMS?

Tmel14 said:
My main issue so far is that a couple of apps I have tried to use (e.g. The Athletic) say that Google Services Installation Required in order to use them. If hey are not on AppStore, is there any way I can use them as apps without GMS?
Are More Apps & Petal a way round sourcing apps not on AppStore but without having to install GMS?
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1. I had some success with some apps that were broken with HMS-naked, but worked successfully with HMS+microG (but I have never tried HMS+GMS as it is silly to buy a P40 Pro then hack GMS onto it .. just buy a different phone).
2. Petal is a terrible app ... it just links you to other app store .. google these well know app stores, go to their websites and get the apk for the store and then install the new store on your p40 pro ..
aptoide
apkpure
amazon appstore
f-droid
aurora
I have them all installed and play around with each .. they mostly have similar apps (other than amazon appstore and f-droid).
dont waste your time with petal.

Thanks, I'm a total novice here so it's really helpful to get some advice.
1) Is microg relatively easy to install? Am I right in thinking that it adds a Google foundation but without GMS? Therefore, some apps from Playstore that didn't work when first cloned may then work?
2) would the benefit of those appstores be that they may have versions of apps that don't require GMS but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore?
3) One other question that I thought of... for apps that I clone over and work fine (but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore) - how will I keep them updated? I do have a Samsung tablet so would I be able to periodically clone them over from that or would I need to do something else?

Tmel14 said:
Thanks, I'm a total novice here so it's really helpful to get some advice.
1) Is microg relatively easy to install? Am I right in thinking that it adds a Google foundation but without GMS? Therefore, some apps from Playstore that didn't work when first cloned may then work?
2) would the benefit of those appstores be that they may have versions of apps that don't require GMS but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore?
3) One other question that I thought of... for apps that I clone over and work fine (but aren't available on Huawei's Appstore) - how will I keep them updated? I do have a Samsung tablet so would I be able to periodically clone them over from that or would I need to do something else?
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1. Refer below .. 10 steps but they are simple steps ... it might take 15 mins for the first time .. 5 mins for the second time .. small open-source app to provide notifications only. what notifications are broken for you?
2. correct .. aurora even looks the same as the google playstore .. install some apps, update as required. I often just update apps directly from aurora or apkpure and dont even use the huawei app gallery.
3. Update your phone-cloned apps with aurora, apkpure, aptoide, f-droid, amazon appstore, etc ... I usually update at different stores every few days just for fun ... today is aurora day .. tomorrow is apkpure day.
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone.
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again - it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these ..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277

linux2525 said:
1. Refer below .. 10 steps but they are simple steps ... it might take 15 mins for the first time .. 5 mins for the second time .. small open-source app to provide notifications only. what notifications are broken for you?
2. correct .. aurora even looks the same as the google playstore .. install some apps, update as required. I often just update apps directly from aurora or apkpure and dont even use the huawei app gallery.
3. Update your phone-cloned apps with aurora, apkpure, aptoide, f-droid, amazon appstore, etc ... I usually update at different stores every few days just for fun ... today is aurora day .. tomorrow is apkpure day.
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone.
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again - it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these ..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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That's great, thank you. I'm still using my Mate Pro 20 as my phone at the moment so not really sure how effective the notifications on my P40 Pro are. It sounds like it would make sense to factory reset and Microg my P40 Pro before I properly make the switch to using that then? You mentioned it should only take 5 mins to do Microg the second time... unless I misread the instruction guide, why would I need to do it a second time?
And presumably once I've installed Microg, I could just clone my apps over from the Mate Pro 20 as normal?

Tmel14 said:
1. That's great, thank you. I'm still using my Mate Pro 20 as my phone at the moment so not really sure how effective the notifications on my P40 Pro are.
2. It sounds like it would make sense to factory reset and Microg my P40 Pro before I properly make the switch to using that then?
3. You mentioned it should only take 5 mins to do Microg the second time... unless I misread the instruction guide, why would I need to do it a second time?
4. And presumably once I've installed Microg, I could just clone my apps over from the Mate Pro 20 as normal?
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1. I would test your essential apps first and check if notifications are working for you. what are your critical apps for notifications? maybe you can go HMS-naked and no need for HMS+microG.
2. You have to install apps after installing microG ... otherwise the apps don't open .. if you have only installed a few apps, then no need to reset ... you can just install microG, uninstall those few apps, then reinstall those few apps .. but if you have 20 apps, it might be quicker to reset and start fresh.
3. quicker the second time as you know where to click! that's all.
4. yep.
but .. hopefully your critical apps have notifications working real-time & consistently, then no need for microG.

linux2525 said:
1. I would test your essential apps first and check if notifications are working for you. what are your critical apps for notifications? maybe you can go HMS-naked and no need for HMS+microG.
2. You have to install apps after installing microG ... otherwise the apps don't open .. if you have only installed a few apps, then no need to reset ... you can just install microG, uninstall those few apps, then reinstall those few apps .. but if you have 20 apps, it might be quicker to reset and start fresh.
3. quicker the second time as you know where to click! that's all.
4. yep.
but .. hopefully your critical apps have notifications working real-time & consistently, then no need for microG.
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Critical apps would be WhatsApp, SMS messages and emails. Other notifications such as news/sports and some other social media would be important but not critical.
I'll pop my SIM in tonight and do a comparison of how notifications are popping up vs my Galaxy tablet and Mate Pro 20 to see whether a reset and microg is necessary.
Thanks again for the help, I'll let you know how I get on!

linux2525 said:
1. Refer below .. 10 steps but they are simple steps ... it might take 15 mins for the first time .. 5 mins for the second time .. small open-source app to provide notifications only. what notifications are broken for you?
2. correct .. aurora even looks the same as the google playstore .. install some apps, update as required. I often just update apps directly from aurora or apkpure and dont even use the huawei app gallery.
3. Update your phone-cloned apps with aurora, apkpure, aptoide, f-droid, amazon appstore, etc ... I usually update at different stores every few days just for fun ... today is aurora day .. tomorrow is apkpure day.
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone.
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again - it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these ..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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Thanks for the guide, I followed it and got microG running, then cloned over my apps and appear to be getting notifications through (at least for the apps I've tried), which is great!
I have now run into a problem with my Google account though. I was trying to sign in to YT Music and typed in my Google account details but it said there was a problem communicating with Google servers. I then went in to Settings > Users and Accounts > Google and there were some sync issues so I removed the account and went to add it again but now it won't work as before, My microG is also showing as without an active Google account and when I try and add it, I am getting the same issue, I enter my email and password and then it takes me to Googles Terms of Service, which I agree but then get the following message:
Sorry... There was a problem communicating with Google servers. Try again later.
Any idea how I can add my Google account again?

Tmel14 said:
Thanks for the guide, I followed it and got microG running, then cloned over my apps and appear to be getting notifications through (at least for the apps I've tried), which is great!
I have now run into a problem with my Google account though. I was trying to sign in to YT Music and typed in my Google account details but it said there was a problem communicating with Google servers. I then went in to Settings > Users and Accounts > Google and there were some sync issues so I removed the account and went to add it again but now it won't work as before, My microG is also showing as without an active Google account and when I try and add it, I am getting the same issue, I enter my email and password and then it takes me to Googles Terms of Service, which I agree but then get the following message:
Sorry... There was a problem communicating with Google servers. Try again later.
Any idea how I can add my Google account again?
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So I cleared the data on my MicroG Services Core app which appeared to fix the problem of not being able to sign in. The issue I now have is that I've signed in to my Google account then when I go to an app such as YT Music and go to sign in, the account doesn't show up, when I then click 'add account' it takes me to MicroG Services but I type in my email and it just says 'This account already exists on your device'...
So my Google account is registered on the phone but whenever I try and sign in to any app with it, it redirects to MicroG Services Core for sign in and then it just says that the account already exists and I cannot go any further with log in

Tmel14 said:
So my Google account is registered on the phone but whenever I try and sign in to any app with it, it redirects to MicroG Services Core for sign in and then it just says that the account already exists and I cannot go any further with log in
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I think you're expecting too much from microG on a non-rooted phone without signature spoofing to use the full microG capabilities.
If want to run a full microG install, then buy a phone with good rooted ROM support with microG already built-in.
I logged into microG and have done no other google logins since .... if any apps have requested a google login, then I have ignored.
you can use amazon music, tidal, spotify, etc .. no idea how to use YoutTubeMusic

linux2525 said:
I think you're expecting too much from microG on a non-rooted phone without signature spoofing to use the full microG capabilities.
If want to run a full microG install, then buy a phone with good rooted ROM support with microG already built-in.
I logged into microG and have done no other google logins since .... if any apps have requested a google login, then I have ignored.
you can use amazon music, tidal, spotify, etc .. no idea how to use YoutTubeMusic
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I definitely don't know the intricacies of what microG provides but it was definitely enabling much better performance from notifications.
This is an issue for me though as I get free YT Music so not something I would particularly want to give up. I don't appear to have an issue signing into YouTube via my browser with my Google account but it appears any app that requires an email log in directly on the app (as opposed to through a browser) automatically routes me to log in via microG core services and when I then try and log in, it says that the account is already regsitered on my device (which it is but I can't seem to access it for this purpose).
I'm not sure if I just did part of the process slightly wrong and if it#s worth me resetting and doing the whole process again, or if for some reason it's not possible?

linux2525 said:
I think you're expecting too much from microG on a non-rooted phone without signature spoofing to use the full microG capabilities.
If want to run a full microG install, then buy a phone with good rooted ROM support with microG already built-in.
I logged into microG and have done no other google logins since .... if any apps have requested a google login, then I have ignored.
you can use amazon music, tidal, spotify, etc .. no idea how to use YoutTubeMusic
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I'm wondering if it would work if I reset the phone, cloned over any apps where I need the few apps where I need to log in via Google (I don't need notifications for them anyway), then installed microG, then cloned over all the rest of the apps?

Can I install microG along with GMS?

Hi guys
I just got huawei p40 pro today and installed GMS manually. My discord doesn't produce any notifications. Can I install microG alongside GMS to get it working?
Thanks

i think you have to icebox your GMS to get notifications .. search some other threads here

blue_panther9_9 said:
Hi guys
I just got huawei p40 pro today and installed GMS manually. My discord doesn't produce any notifications. Can I install microG alongside GMS to get it working?
Thanks
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Yes you can.
When I got my P40 Pro I installed Micro-G just for YouTube Vanced. A week later I decided to install GMS and kept the Micro-G on the device. No issues found after combining Micro-G with GMS whatsoever.
BTW I didn't try to install the official YouTube app as I'm more satisfied with Vanced.

Does Micro-G help purely for notifications or could it help apps that require Google services to work?

Tmel14 said:
Does Micro-G help purely for notifications or could it help apps that require Google services to work?
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No, Micro-G will not allow you to run Google-Dependant apps. You need to install GMS for that. Which is very easy in case you are curious.

I can't install microG, it says I already have the latest version. The only thing I did was installing Google services and play store.
What should I do to get push notifications working? My banking app relies on firebase ?

blue_panther9_9 said:
I can't install microG, it says I already have the latest version. The only thing I did was installing Google services and play store.
What should I do to get push notifications working? My banking app relies on firebase
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For the Micro-G issues I honestly don't know. For me I installed Micro-G first and then GMS. But I remember when I tried to install YouTube Vanced it didnt run, meaning that Micro-G installation was not successful. I seached the web and the solution was deleting Mkcro-G and then installing SAI (Split APKs Installer) from APK-Pure and then re-installing Micro-G. Then YouTube Vanced worked so I know now that Micro-G is working fine. ----> try this it may work.
For your second issue about the push notifications, Firebase is a Google-Cloud massaging service. And it will have the same problem as other Google push notifications such as Gmail. There is a solution on xda I previously read but I can't find the thread. Try searching it.

blue_panther9_9 said:
I can't install microG, it says I already have the latest version. The only thing I did was installing Google services and play store.
What should I do to get push notifications working? My banking app relies on firebase
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Options:
HMS-naked (broken notifications on heaps of apps even Huawei App Gallery)
HMS+microG (for notifications with google firebase cloud messaging)
HMS+GMS (notifications broken)
HMS+GMS+icebox (freeze google play store as required for notifications and unfreeze intermittently for updating apps)
I think it is called icebox (just from memory .. or something similar) .. just search in the recent threads and you will find the process to freeze & unfreeze GMS to get notifications working.

This is awesome explanation. Thank you so much, I will have a look tonight

I just found out icebox requires all my account to be removed first. I will wait this weekend first
My understanding is
1. Install Icebox before you put anything. It requires ADB and you need to remove your Google Accounts beforehand.
2. Install GMS
3. Disable GMS with Icebox
4. Install MicroG
5. Install all the apps that you want. Make sure you have microG first before installing apps

blue_panther9_9 said:
3. Disable GMS with Icebox
4. Install MicroG
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can you post the link to this new process?
are you developing something new .. i have never heard of this combination before ...
HMS+GMS+Icebox+microG
why install microG if you are using GMS+Icebox? the purpose of Icebox is to give notifications, then you dont need microG.
if you really want the google play store, I really wouldn't bother with the P40 Pro.

linux2525 said:
can you post the link to this new process?
are you developing something new .. i have never heard of this combination before ...
HMS+GMS+Icebox+microG
why install microG if you are using GMS+Icebox? the purpose of Icebox is to give notifications, then you dont need microG.
if you really want the google play store, I really wouldn't bother with the P40 Pro.
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No I'm not developing anything new ? I'm trying to get the best of both worlds.
This GMS installation mod seems to be using microG underneath bcuz I got the message from the official microG app that my microG is already the latest version. I got the Vanced microG version installed without any need for icebox. But push notifications still doesn't work.

blue_panther9_9 said:
No I'm not developing anything new I'm trying to get the best of both worlds. .
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I haven't read of anyone successful achieving this before... Are you planning to rewrite some code of microG or can you solve with installation techniques?
If you have time to spare, then good luck trying

CALISTHRONE said:
For your second issue about the push notifications, Firebase is a Google-Cloud massaging service. There is a solution on xda I previously read but I can't find the thread. Try searching it.
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but why wouldn't you just say what the solution is? as you just said the solution above ... i.e. either (1) install microG or (2) freeze GMS
were you only talking about microG for youtube vanced? I think the other guy is talking about a microG install for google firebase cloud messaging .. so you're both mixed up trying to solve different problems.

linux2525 said:
but why wouldn't you just say what the solution is? as you just said the solution above ... i.e. either (1) install microG or (2) freeze GMS
were you only talking about microG for youtube vanced? I think the other guy is talking about a microG install for google firebase cloud messaging .. so you're both mixed up trying to solve different problems.
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OK sorry.

All good guys. Thanks, yeah MicroG vanced version didn't help me with my push notification issue.
but linux2525 pointed me to the right direction
1. HMS + GMS + Icebox. <-- At least I got my Banking app working now with Google Push notification. I think the next time I reset my PC, I would go with HMS + MicroG instead. I dont play games and mostly just Youtube, Spotify and Instagram only.
Also my whatsapp Google Drive backup still working with this combination *I'm backing up 3GB to my drive

blue_panther9_9 said:
All good guys. Thanks, yeah MicroG vanced version didn't help me with my push notification issue.
but linux2525 pointed me to the right direction
1. HMS + GMS + Icebox. <-- At least I got my Banking app working now with Google Push notification. I think the next time I reset my PC, I would go with HMS + MicroG instead. I dont play games and mostly just Youtube, Spotify and Instagram only.
Also my whatsapp Google Drive backup still working with this combination *I'm backing up 3GB to my drive
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Interesting, I'm looking at installing GMS as I have a variety of apps that won't work without Google. What makes you say you'd go without GMS next time? Are notifications working well across apss for you with Icebox?

Tmel14 said:
I'm looking at installing GMS as I have a variety of apps that won't work without Google.
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just out of interest .. which apps were those? i am curious to test on my p40 pro.

YouTube Music (technically works but can't seem to add an account)
The Atheltic
Paddy Power
Betfair
eBay
There were some others as well but can't think off the top of my head. Some of those I can use the websites instead of apps but often they aren't as user friendly.

YTMusic .. works great on firefox preview .. except a major problem .. cannot download.
eBay is not great in browser

HMS vs GMS Services

Hi everyone hope you are all well and safe
After a few weeks of using HMS and completely ditching GMS I can honestly say I am fully sold into the HMS core it took some tweaking I have to say to get into apps and bring over photos etc.
with that being said I wanted to start some sort of thread to those that are just starting out with HMS and what the benefits of HMS are and how do you bring them to life.
A key one for me is Huawei Cloud is currently offering 50GB for 12 months for free, I always maxed out 5gb and always thought why bother I found this a nice touch from Huawei Mobile Services.
Has anyone got any similar experiences that they would like to share so those just starting out there HMS journey can find useful.
Thanks everyone

Tech_Droid1 said:
Hi everyone hope you are all well and safe
After a few weeks of using HMS and completely ditching GMS I can honestly say I am fully sold into the HMS core it took some tweaking I have to say to get into apps and bring over photos etc.
with that being said I wanted to start some sort of thread to those that are just starting out with HMS and what the benefits of HMS are and how do you bring them to life.
A key one for me is Huawei Cloud is currently offering 50GB for 12 months for free, I always maxed out 5gb and always thought why bother I found this a nice touch from Huawei Mobile Services.
Has anyone got any similar experiences that they would like to share so those just starting out there HMS journey can find useful.
Thanks everyone
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When I got my device I got 10 free movies to watch via the Huawei video app. Pretty cool.

Install microG to resolve most notification issues.. Not perfect but fixes many apps

dw9075n said:
When I got my device I got 10 free movies to watch via the Huawei video app. Pretty cool.
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Oh wow this is cool I do like my movies I'll check it out now thanks matey

linux2525 said:
Install microG to resolve most notification issues.. Not perfect but fixes many apps
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Hey man what is the best way to do this if you don't mind me asking, APK?

Tech_Droid1 said:
Hey man what is the best way to do this if you don't mind me asking, APK?
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This solves a fair few notification problems for many apps ... and still a pretty pure HMS install .. microG is a small open-source app used for many years in heaps of ROMs ... it is simple to install but have added heaps of steps to make it easy ..
For HMS+microG
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone (as you need to install apps after microG install).
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again – it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these .. in the end, I am not sure that it helped but worth a try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277

Tech_Droid1 said:
Hi everyone hope you are all well and safe
After a few weeks of using HMS and completely ditching GMS I can honestly say I am fully sold into the HMS core it took some tweaking I have to say to get into apps and bring over photos etc.
with that being said I wanted to start some sort of thread to those that are just starting out with HMS and what the benefits of HMS are and how do you bring them to life.
A key one for me is Huawei Cloud is currently offering 50GB for 12 months for free, I always maxed out 5gb and always thought why bother I found this a nice touch from Huawei Mobile Services.
Has anyone got any similar experiences that they would like to share so those just starting out there HMS journey can find useful.
Thanks everyone
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How have you found using the cloud

linux2525 said:
This solves a fair few notification problems for many apps ... and still a pretty pure HMS install .. microG is a small open-source app used for many years in heaps of ROMs ... it is simple to install but have added heaps of steps to make it easy ..
For HMS+microG
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone (as you need to install apps after microG install).
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again – it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these .. in the end, I am not sure that it helped but worth a try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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Much appreciated my friend this is super helpful, looks like I have a busy evening.

ChrisHtube said:
How have you found using the cloud
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Seem less experience ChrisHtube - I had never set it up on GMS devices but now on HMS the pictures I take auto sync to my partners device, my tablet and synced to my Mothers device so she can see her grandchild (daily since lockdown)
How about yourself?

they did a win reward game on app gallery, got you the chance to win a p40 pro, watch etc just for downloading a game. amazing

Tech_Droid1 said:
Much appreciated my friend this is super helpful, looks like I have a busy evening.
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They are detailed steps... It should only take 15 mins.
No need to factory reset if you uninstall and reinstall each app that needs notifications after installing microG

linux2525 said:
This solves a fair few notification problems for many apps ... and still a pretty pure HMS install .. microG is a small open-source app used for many years in heaps of ROMs ... it is simple to install but have added heaps of steps to make it easy ..
For HMS+microG
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone (as you need to install apps after microG install).
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again – it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these .. in the end, I am not sure that it helped but worth a try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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I have YouTube vanced installed, should I remove micro G for YouTube Vanced to install micro G?

Ive been using a HMS device for a month is and tbf not much has changed for me in the way I use my phone, I had a look at that micro G thing from linux25 however its a bit beyond my skill set lol

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I had a look at that micro G thing from linux25 however its a bit beyond my skill set lol
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If you receive all the notifications that you need, then do not worry ... but the steps are super-detailed .. it is actually very easy ...
1. install f-droid apk
2. install x3 microG apps
3. enable microG and install your own apps to register in microG

linux2525 said:
They are detailed steps... It should only take 15 mins.
No need to factory reset if you uninstall and reinstall each app that needs notifications after installing microG
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Great thanks for the support, it worked a right treat.

The do have a few promotions on app gallery.

linux2525 said:
Install microG to resolve most notification issues.. Not perfect but fixes many apps
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But this is GMS but on an open source, and typically GMS loaded on to HMS causes a lot of notification issues?

ChrisHtube said:
But this is GMS but on an open source, and typically GMS loaded on to HMS causes a lot of notification issues?
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Works fine and notifications work for most apps. Big improvement. Will only take you 10 mins to test if you have a naked HMS install.

Linux2525 you seem clued up so what's your feelings about the phone do you recommend it I'm coming from mate 20 Pro will I notice a difference I'm.tech savvy and I care not for Google I installed vanced on my mate 20 pro be interesting to know what hurdles you gone though I use messenger Instagram and Twitter mainly

Jimmyboy47 said:
Linux2525 you seem clued up so what's your feelings about the phone do you recommend it I'm coming from mate 20 Pro will I notice a difference I'm.tech savvy and I care not for Google I installed vanced on my mate 20 pro be interesting to know what hurdles you gone though I use messenger Instagram and Twitter mainly
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If you dont want google, then there is a good chance you can happy very easily.
I am very close ... HMS+microG and it almost perfect except for Skype notifications .. spent heaps of time trying to solve an no luck yet .. I am about to resort to GMS
For those that want google apps, I have no idea why anyone would want the hassles & reliability risks with HMS+GMS+icebox just to get an extra 2 or 3 DXOMARK points.

P40 Pro (ELS-NX9) without GMS notifications?

Hi everyone,
I don't really need google apps, so I was looking around on how to get notifications to work properly without a googlifier install. Applications of interest are Revolut and Microsoft Authenticator, which don't display push notifications for me.
I found that MicroG apparently fixes the notifications, yet when I follow the instructions, I still don't manage to get the "spoofing" checkpoints in MicroG app.
What I did was install F droid, load the repository found in the MicroG site, and installed all the required apks via Fdroid, but still can't get it to work. I suspect this might be because I'm on EMUI 11? Has anyone managed to find a workaround for EMUI 11 devices?

Hello gregito,
Spoofing isn't really important to make MicroG works. I'm also on Emui 11 and notifications works like a charm.
I suggest you follow the first part of my guide if it can help you.
[Guide] A way to use your phone without GMS
Hi everyone, Please note that this post is only for users who assume using their phone without GMS, like me. I know this is a little tricky in the beginning, but after few months without Google I don't miss it anymore. Also, i'm french so I give...
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Lineageos without gapps and navigation

Hi
I have installed the official Lineageos on my Samsung S10e and I'm very happy with it. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...or-galaxy-s10e-s10-s10-s10-5g-exynos.4315407/
I'm also glad I can use the device without any google apps.
one thing that does not work is navigating in Apps like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.schweizmobil or https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.admin.swisstopo
so if I press the button to center at current location, nothing happens although navigation is enabled.
I installed https://f-droid.org/de/packages/org.microg.nlp.backend.ichnaea/, but this did not fix the issue.
Is it possible to get navigation working in those apps without installing gapps?
thx for any help

GApps ( correctly: GMS ) is a basket of applications ( read: Google Mobile Services - shorthand: GMS ) what are proprietary Google-branded and copyrighted by Google.
These GMS rely on GMS Core, a bunch of also Google copyrighted software what is used by GMS. GMS Core works as a set of APIs ( Application Programming Interfaces ).
Knowing this you should install GMS Core, NOT GMS.

xXx yYy said:
GApps ( correctly: GMS ) is a basket of applications ( read: Google Mobile Services - shorthand: GMS ) what are proprietary Google-branded and copyrighted by Google.
These GMS rely on GMS Core, a bunch of also Google copyrighted software what is used by GMS. GMS Core works as a set of APIs ( Application Programming Interfaces ).
Knowing this you should install GMS Core, NOT GMS.
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thx for the input.
is it possible to go without any google components?
and if not, where to get GMS core?

You may download and install
microG Services Core 0.2.24.214816apk

oh nice, didn't know about microG.
but when I try to install it:
Error installing microG Services Core
failed to install due to an unknown error.
update: it seems that Signature Spoofing support is required for this. trying to find out how to enable it for my official lineageos

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