I was messing around with the camera when I noticed something weird. When in the official camera app (tested in both implemented version and new 3.8.1), I can tap in the "three trees icon" (panoramic) and covering the top lense I see that's the one the phone is using. Now on to the 1x icon, the phone changes to the mid lense, but when tapping the big tree icon (telephoto), looks like my phone keeps using the same central lense, so the one in the bottom is never triggered.
Has anyone else ever experienced this?
Telephone is only used when there is a lot of light ( i personally tested it a lot). If you want to forcefully use the telephone camera use gcam mod with 'gcam for oos' module to enable auxiliary camera support.
in video mode telephoto is actually never used. that i did notice.
fabricio7p said:
in video mode telephoto is actually never used. that i did notice.
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Indeed, I think they will allow for it in future updates.
safwankatharudheen said:
Telephone is only used when there is a lot of light ( i personally tested it a lot). If you want to forcefully use the telephone camera use gcam mod with 'gcam for oos' module to enable auxiliary camera support.
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Maybe that's the reason, after further fiddling I've found there's some kind of jumping between both lenses, it's not just that it doesn't toggle at all. So maybe the light is the reason for that. Thank you for your reply!
Hi all, can someone verify this for me?
There are two cameras on the Mi Mix 3 yes?
One is the normal (wider) angle camera, and the other a more telephoto camera?
So, covering the top camera should give me a black screen (finger on it) when I use 1x zoom?
And switching to 2x zoom will give me a clear shot? (finger not on it)
I realise that this isn't happening anymore and 1x and 2x have images coming from the lower camera. Is this by design? Am I misunderstanding the idea of the two cameras?
Has the latest MIUI update broken something or was this how the camera works all this time?
As far as I can tell, every mode uses the bottom lens, regardless of zoom. Only portrait mode uses the top lens.
it's working fine, but i think you just need to go into pro mode and switch lens manually if you want to use tele, otherwise it's switching back and forth on it's own just tried it.
did more tests and it seems that the lens does indeed switch to the telephoto lens now once i zoom past 2.0x in the default photo mode. i also discovered that if it detects an obstruction in the 2.0x lens, it will fallback to the wide lens with a poor digital zoom. (I put my finger on the telephoto lens to check if it was working)
Hi!
This may seem like a strange question. What does the camera on the back of the Mi 10 Ultra that looks like the periscope zoom actually do? The one that's in the "silver island"
I have had my Ultra since August, and simply assumed that this was indeed the periscope zoom, but this morning I noticed a very fine scratch in the corner of this camera. So I put it in 5x zoom, and saw that it didn't impact on the image. Then I realised that if I put my finger over this lens entirely, there was still no impact to the zoom!
So if we look from top, "Silver island" lens should be 5x zoom but covering it has no effect on any zoom level.
The next one down is the 2x zoom, interestingly if I cover this with my finger, it's mostly covered, but occasionally will jump to the main lens for a second or 2 for no reason.
The third camera is the main lens, this is also the one that is being used for 5x zoom and above, like they're taking a crop from that module as they did in my Mi Note 10 (and I assume the Mi 10 Pro, which I think is what the Ultra ROM is based off?)
And of course the final one is the incredibly poorly-positioned ultrawide
I've recently upgraded to Android 11 - MIUI 12.1.1.0 (RJJCNXM) so I've no idea whether this behaviour has always been the case, or if this upgrade has caused an issue.
I noticed that since the upgrade, the dots on the camera app for the "preset zooms" has gained a new option, a somewhat pointless 0.8x ultrawide which again just seems to be a crop of the ultrawide.
So, can anyone else test and confirm this? Has the latest upgrade "disabled" the periscope zoom?
Thanks
The periscope camera on Mi 10 Ultra is exactly what you'd expect, something as illustrated here.
It should kick in when you zoom by 5x and more within the camera app. However, I've randomly noticed (some months ago) that the app itself seems to behave in a way that if you zoom in over 5x and cover the periscope lens with your finger, the app will (temporarily) fall back to digital zoom using the main lens (3rd one from the top) even for higher zoom levels, because it assumes that there's something wrong with the periscope one.
In my experience, it would just automatically use the periscope camera when needed the next time I zoom, assuming it isn't covered this time.
If it doesn't, try to zoom like 10x and cover the main lens this time around, if it switches to periscope as it should.
Are you using xiaomi EU ROM?
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The periscope camera on Mi 10 Ultra is exactly what you'd expect, something as illustrated here.
It should kick in when you zoom by 5x and more within the camera app. However, I've randomly noticed (some months ago) that the app itself seems to behave in a way that if you zoom in over 5x and cover the periscope lens with your finger, the app will (temporarily) fall back to digital zoom using the main lens (3rd one from the top) even for higher zoom levels, because it assumes that there's something wrong with the periscope one.
In my experience, it would just automatically use the periscope camera when needed the next time I zoom, assuming it isn't covered this time.
If it doesn't, try to zoom like 10x and cover the main lens this time around, if it switches to periscope as it should.
Are you using xiaomi EU ROM?
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Thanks for the reply. I feel like my phone is using the main 3rd camera for 5x zoom by default.
If I put the camera app into 5x zoom and cover the 3rd lens with my finger, the photo is obscured, if I put my finger over the periscope lens nothing happens
The same behaviour is displayed for 10x zoom, and any zoom up to 14.9x
However, once it goes into 15x zoom and above, you see "picture within picture" and the viewfinder does seem to be powered by the periscope, and the main 3rd lens is then responsible for the mini image in the corner, please see my attached screenshot, where I have covered the periscope lens with my finger.
So I guess what I'm wondering is...
1) Is my phone screwed?
2) Are 5x to 14.9x zoom shots taken with the main lens by default, by design or is this a bug?
3) Has this behaviour always been the case, or only since I upgraded?
I'm on Android 11 - MIUI 12.1.1.0 (RJJCNXM) which was an OTA update
If it's any use my baseband is c7-3033.23-0120_2103_79a330f and my kernel is 4.1.9.113-perf-gd722e10
t3chfan said:
Thanks for the reply. I feel like my phone is using the main 3rd camera for 5x zoom by default.
If I put the camera app into 5x zoom and cover the 3rd lens with my finger, the photo is obscured, if I put my finger over the periscope lens nothing happens
The same behaviour is displayed for 10x zoom, and any zoom up to 14.9x
However, once it goes into 15x zoom and above, you see "picture within picture" and the viewfinder does seem to be powered by the periscope, and the main 3rd lens is then responsible for the mini image in the corner, please see my attached screenshot, where I have covered the periscope lens with my finger.
So I guess what I'm wondering is...
1) Is my phone screwed?
2) Are 5x to 14.9x zoom shots taken with the main lens by default, by design or is this a bug?
3) Has this behaviour always been the case, or only since I upgraded?
I'm on Android 11 - MIUI 12.1.1.0 (RJJCNXM) which was an OTA update
If it's any use my baseband is c7-3033.23-0120_2103_79a330f and my kernel is 4.1.9.113-perf-gd722e10
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Alright so I just went ahead and tested this (I use the EU ROM, but the camera app is just the same thing ported over).
What I found out is:
1. if I click 5x zoom in the camera app and autofocus is focusing on near objects (<1 meter), such as something on the desk I'm sitting at, it will default to main lens with digital zoom,
2. while still in the 5x zoom mode, if I turn the phone around and autofocus acquires focus on the opposite end of the room (~7 meters), the app will automatically switch to the periscope lens,
Which brings me to the conclusion, that:
1. the periscope lens has a minimum focus distance significantly greater than the main lens,
2. if you try to use zoom level of 5x and above, while focusing on an object relatively close to the camera (something up to 1 meter), it will fall back to digital zoom with the main lens, as the periscope lens is unable to obtain focus on such short distance
3. if you want to confirm this, avoid the automatic lens switching and make sure your periscope lens is operating correctly, you can use the Pro mode in the camera app, select the periscope lens manually on the right side (here it's called TELE 5X), and play around with it
fw85 said:
Alright so I just went ahead and tested this (I use the EU ROM, but the camera app is just the same thing ported over).
What I found out is:
1. if I click 5x zoom in the camera app and autofocus is focusing on near objects (<1 meter), such as something on the desk I'm sitting at, it will default to main lens with digital zoom,
2. while still in the 5x zoom mode, if I turn the phone around and autofocus acquires focus on the opposite end of the room (~7 meters), the app will automatically switch to the periscope lens,
Which brings me to the conclusion, that:
1. the periscope lens has a minimum focus distance significantly greater than the main lens,
2. if you try to use zoom level of 5x and above, while focusing on an object relatively close to the camera (something up to 1 meter), it will fall back to digital zoom with the main lens, as the periscope lens is unable to obtain focus on such short distance
3. if you want to confirm this, avoid the automatic lens switching and make sure your periscope lens is operating correctly, you can use the Pro mode in the camera app, select the periscope lens manually on the right side (here it's called TELE 5X), and play around with it
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Thanks so much for your help! Don't I feel a bit silly now But reassured that it works as I thought and I'm just an idiot
Hi everyone,
Has anyone experienced an issue with the camera?
Since my phone overheated, about 3 weeks ago, staying under the sun, I can't use the rear camera... I had the overheating warning pop up.
Basically if I launch the app, the app freezes, I can't switch to different rear cameras (wide, regular, telezoom) nor switch to front camera.
Sometimes I get a pop-up saying "can not connect to camera".
I can launch selfie mode directly from the app shortcut (by long pressing), other apps can't access the rear camera either and clearing cache of the camera app didn't change anything.
So, I had to change the back cover of the phone that had been previously cracked (nothing to do the camera not working), and I benefited the phone opened to try with disconnected cameras:
Telephoto works well, super wide as well.
Funny thing: the phone can use only the super wide camera to do both x0,6 and x1 (you don't notice that the main camera is not used).
Main camera worked.
2nd funny thing : portrait mode works perfectly without the Tof sensor being plugged in...
I plugged back the Tof sensor, it was still working, but stopped after restarting the phone. I removed it, cleared cache, it started to work again. I plugged the Tof sensor back in, it was working... I glued back the cover, and had the camera stop working within few minutes...
Long story short, has anyone experienced an issue with the Tof sensor? Which doesn't seem to be very useful...
I guess I'll try to remove it completely and check if the camera becomes stable.
I didn't find this part being sold :/
Regards, Charles
I've had good luck using
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The settings I had to change to get it to work was turning on auto white balance (pics were green without it turned on), then I went to the advanced->ancillary camera settings to turn on the ID2 and ID4 cameras so the buttons would show on screen. Renamed ID2 to wide lens, and ID4 to Macro lens. I don't know if I used correct terms for names, the ID2 is the 0.5 camera and the ID4 is the flower icon camera from original camera. ID1, ID,3, ID5 options seems to crash app so I couldn't figure out which one goes to the physical 4th camera on back, so no clue how to access that particular camera plus I don't know what it's for.
Video and everything else appears to work without crashing. It does crash as I play with setting to get it to work better.
Not sure how many people are using the phone still being 2 years old, and didn't see post in the apps section unless I missed it. So here's something in case someone happens to still be using the phone like I am.