Frustrated Causual User With New Device - General Topics

I couldn't find this online, or it seems the method no longer applies, and I couldn't get it to appear in a search here.
The last time I upgraded was from an S9 to the Note 20 Ultra. When I did, it asked me if I wanted to copy from the old phone, and everything was moved over, including all of the apps. The only things missing were the older texts from my side and some of the data inside some apps.
This time is used Smart Switch, and it only transferred data and a few of the apps. It was better before!
Is there a way to get everything or almost everything moved over?
I just want to get switched over quickly.
Thanks!

A clean load is best for stock phones. Do it right the first time...
SmartSwitch can screw up bad. A different device and OS version can cause issues. Potential data loss is also a possibility.
Never use SmartSwitch as the only backup... keep at least 2 copies on hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Copy/paste critical data, then verify size, file count and if readable. If you have an SD card it should already be there on the old phone.
Otherwise develop a plan/organize your data so you can reload as quickly, accurately and painlessly as possible with zero critical data loss.
After 2 back to back boot loops in 3 days I learned that lesson

Clean Load? Do you mean don't use SmartSwitch, and just set up the new phone manually?
Maybe this device is too different for SW to work? Are there any alternatives?

Myk_Myk said:
Clean Load? Do you mean don't use SmartSwitch, and just set up the new phone manually?
Maybe this device is too different for SW to work? Are there any alternatives?
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Yeap. Always the best option. A good load can last for years if you don't do firmware upgrades/updates. This stock Note 10+'s load will be 3 yo this June, still fast, very stable with minimal maintenance. Still running on Android 9. Android loads can be very long lived, a great OS.
A clean load means when you do find issues (and you will) you won't be wondering if you imported the problem with SmartSwitch. The last thing you want to do is a factory reset because the issue is likely to reoccur*. Instead find the root cause. Knowing you have a good base load helps with troubleshooting.
If SmartSwitch screws it up a factory reset maybe the only realistic solution. It may be lagging, system instability or subtle issues. My second N10+ may need this done because I inadvertently used more SmartSwitch options than I had wanted. So are the issues from SmartSwitch or because of Android 10? Only one way to know for sure... You get the idea.
*a boot loop or malware that can't be eradicated are the exceptions. With a boot loop you still need to track down the root cause, usually a buggy 3rd party app.

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Backups & Restores

Hopefully this will help someone else. Use Titanium backup to backup your device. On 2 occasions, using the tablet and/or installing software, somehow, the system gets totally corrupted. The only way I have found to fix it is to wipe out all the data and reflash. If you have a backup copy (Titanium Backup), you can restore your tablet w/out having to start from scratch. Also many apps have the ability to save their config data to the SDCARD. I make use of these features to get my tablet reconfigured to my specs after flashing.
I'm not a long time Android users so I don't know if all android devices are susceptible to this type of low level corruption or if it's just the g tablet.
I think it is mostly our tablet right now. My phone never just loses its mind and needs to be reflashed. Likely just because the Tegra is so new, the manufactures rushed to get something to market, and some bugs still need to be tweaked.
Titanium is a pretty neat app...
lamlam01 said:
Hopefully this will help someone else. Use Titanium backup to backup your device. On 2 occasions, using the tablet and/or installing software, somehow, the system gets totally corrupted. The only way I have found to fix it is to wipe out all the data and reflash. If you have a backup copy (Titanium Backup), you can restore your tablet w/out having to start from scratch. Also many apps have the ability to save their config data to the SDCARD. I make use of these features to get my tablet reconfigured to my specs after flashing.
I'm not a long time Android users so I don't know if all android devices are susceptible to this type of low level corruption or if it's just the g tablet.
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Just the G Tablet. I've never seen this happen with my Nexus One in ordinary use, nor even in flashing ROMs for that matter.
On my G Tablet, I've had a few glitches with flashing via Clockwork Mod that forced me to wipe and start over, and a few glitches from just trying to shut down my tablet normally that required wiping user data. That hasn't happened since I've been running ZPad 2.2 though, i.e. for the last week or so now so perhaps the software is starting to stabilize a bit.
Android is great. The G Tablet has lots of potential. But you have to realize that we're basically the beta testers for Viewsonic and Malata (the OEM that actually manufactured this thing), who paid some $400 for the privilege.
Luckily the software has improved by leaps and bounds in the last month thanks to the hard work of the people here on the forums, and hopefully we can keep that momentum up.

It appears I F'ed up

I rooted my Samsung galaxy core prime g-360v using king root and didn't make any backup using titanium or anything since I didn't have enough phone space. Now I was trying to clear up system memory that took 4.5gb of storage for whatever reason. So I messed around a bit and managed to accidentally factory reset my phone.
Now I am apperently stuck in a loop where setup wizard stopped responding after 2slides. It stopped working right after i rooted it. But I dismissed it as no big deal since I wasn't going to factory reset my phone... Until I managed to do so accidentally. Rip all my pr0n but anyways how do fix this. (Note I can get into Odin mode and every that doesn't require me to actually setting up my phone.)
Is there a way I could possibly kill 2 birds with 1 stone since before rooting I didn't want to factory reset cause I didn't want to lose anything. But now the situation I am in, is there a way I can get passed this loop and or possibly reduce the size of the system memory.
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Just to make certain, you were deleting system apps (Verizon/Samsung bloatware presumably)? Three things:
1. Don't do that.
2. Your phone's system partition is a set size, and deleting stuff won't free up any space that you can use for other things.
3. Once you delete something from the system partition, it's gone. Doing a factory reset won't put it back, because all doing a factory reset does is delete the data, storage, and cache partitions, leaving the system partition (which is what boots when you do a factory partition) untouched. When something's gone, it's gone.
I think your only option is to take it in and pretend like it's defective. Assuming King Root doesn't trip KNOX.
Next time, do your reading and research, and ASK FIRST! Trust me, we'd rather you pester us with what might seem like silly questions than have you screw up your device. If it sounds like I'm scolding you, I assure you I'm not. Because I did basically the same thing with my first rooted phone. Got too clever (not as clever as I thought I was), and tried reinstalling the Play Store because I was getting install errors. Play Store would crash immediately. So I did a factory reset, and BAM, no Play Store. I eventually realized how to fix it (and by eventually, I mean on the way home after getting a replacement ordered at the store). We all do dumb things.
How are you finding the Core Prime, apart from this mishap? I'm kinda sorta contemplating getting one from T-Mobile (but not yet) since we're supposedly getting Band 12 here some time this year, and my current internet "mule" (USB and wifi tethering) doesn't have Band 12.
Planterz said:
Just to make certain, you were deleting system apps (Verizon/Samsung bloatware presumably)? Three things:
1. Don't do that.
2. Your phone's system partition is a set size, and deleting stuff won't free up any space that you can use for other things.
3. Once you delete something from the system partition, it's gone. Doing a factory reset won't put it back, because all doing a factory reset does is delete the data, storage, and cache partitions, leaving the system partition (which is what boots when you do a factory partition) untouched. When something's gone, it's gone.
I think your only option is to take it in and pretend like it's defective. Assuming King Root doesn't trip KNOX.
Next time, do your reading and research, and ASK FIRST! Trust me, we'd rather you pester us with what might seem like silly questions than have you screw up your device. If it sounds like I'm scolding you, I assure you I'm not. Because I did basically the same thing with my first rooted phone. Got too clever (not as clever as I thought I was), and tried reinstalling the Play Store because I was getting install errors. Play Store would crash immediately. So I did a factory reset, and BAM, no Play Store. I eventually realized how to fix it (and by eventually, I mean on the way home after getting a replacement ordered at the store). We all do dumb things.
How are you finding the Core Prime, apart from this mishap? I'm kinda sorta contemplating getting one from T-Mobile (but not yet) since we're supposedly getting Band 12 here some time this year, and my current internet "mule" (USB and wifi tethering) doesn't have Band 12.
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Ok so like what should I do? I think if I can either get setup wizard fixed or like should I use a different ROM. If so would it take more system memory? Also how would I allocate the memory rather than Delete it all.
Also I fairly like my galexy core not a bad price for it and it basically does everything I need it to just the only problem is the low memory.
uhhh how do i flash a rom like Cyanogen
(Edit:attempted to try to flash a ROM almost f'ed my computer...)

Note 8: How to proceed with a reset?????????????????

I’m dealing with random reboots (every few days) when my Note 8 is idle. This happens every few days and not every day. When I set it up I used Smart Switch to move things over from my Note3. Called Samsung and they suggested a reset, which I think I’m going to do. However, they suggest I use Smart Switch to back up and restore everything to my reset phone. I asked how is this making it any different from what I have, basically copying a theoretically corrupted phone to a backup and then restoring that corrupted backup to a reset phone. The call center lady hung up after I posed that question.
So my question is what can I restore selectively with Smart Switch? Obviously, I am going to restore all apps and settings manually. Any other suggestions by someone who has done this would be appreciated. Basically I want a clean installation.
Other factor is I don’t have Oreo available yet. Am using a dual SIM unlocked version of the phone and I guess the update will have to come from Samsung directly. Do you advise waiting to see if Oreo clears up the idle restart issue or going ahead and doing the restart?

Random app crashes and problems

Hi, I have a samsung galaxy tab s2 the 9.7 inches one, but lately some apps have been crashing or having errors, chrome for example throws that snap somethjng wrong, perfect viewer sometimes gets stuck on an image and I cant chnge it, but all menus work, several apps keep crashing as well.
I have it with official firmware, never touched it, its rooted with magisk since before the problems started, apps that use root are file explorer, vanced manger and an app to disable some samsung bloatware.
I dont know how to troubleshoot android, on pc I would check memory and hdds, but theres nothing lkke that kn android that I could find.
I think it could be memory or storage, but everything Ive downloaded or copied/moved hasnt have any problems or errors. Or something is corrupted in the system, or I dont know what else or how to check.
What would you recommend to fix it? Hopefully starting with less drastic, as in less data loss, factory reset, flashing an original rom or somethjng.
The device is aSamsung galaxy tab s2 9.7 with android 7 with lean launcher.
All help is appreciated.
I believe this were an common issue for Android 7 and below !
and you have an old device and android which I believe it's no longer supported by the most of developers.
try to flash any custome roms & kernels if available.
If apps are randomly crashing then the reason might be it's caused by an update of Google's tool called Android System WebView.
Abdullah.Csit said:
I believe this were an common issue for Android 7 and below !
and you have an old device and android which I believe it's no longer supported by the most of developers.
try to flash any custome roms & kernels if available.
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But it hasnt happened before until now, what would it fix using a custom rom instead of the original?
jwoegerbauer said:
If apps are randomly crashing then the reason might be it's caused by an update of Google's tool called Android System WebView.
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I had that problem with my phone, my tablet never got that update.
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Clear system cache...
Wiped dalvik and system cache, but still having the same problems.
Thanks
totopesce said:
Wiped dalvik and system cache, but still having the same problems.
Thanks
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Try using the stock launcher.
See what apks are running and cached right when this happens is it may give you a clue.
I would completely backup all critical data now.
Android is normally very stable.
Scan with Malwarebytes. If you can't find the root cause, suspect a virus, rootkit etc.
This is rare but can happen.
Karma Firewall can help you to see what's accessing what and how often. It uses almost no battery or resources, freeware, adfree, a near perfect little app.
Cant remove lean launcher it gets stuck in android is starting and it doesnt let me change to stock, installed nova just to check if it was lean and still the same problems.
Installed malwarebytes, had to run the scan several times cause it kept crashing, it completed and it didnt find anything.
Installed karma firewall and will see if I find anything.
Thanks
totopesce said:
Cant remove lean launcher it gets stuck in android is starting and it doesnt let me change to stock, installed nova just to check if it was lean and still the same problems.
Installed malwarebytes, had to run the scan several times cause it kept crashing, it completed and it didnt find anything.
Installed karma firewall and will see if I find anything.
Thanks
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Figure out how to get the stock launcher back.
Any 3rd party app you can't uninstall is already malware. Check Device Administrators to see if it's registered there. Nova is no saint either.
If you can't resolve it error on the side of caution that it is malware and nuke it. Sometimes you never find out which one it was... getting rid of it is all that matters.
Sorry, what I meant was that after uninstalling it it got stuck in androiid is starting, somehow I lost the stock launcher, so it got stuck with no launcher. Found the launcher that came stock, installed it and uninstalled the other 2.
Apps are still crashing, I deleted all apps that I dont really use.
totopesce said:
Sorry, what I meant was that after uninstalling it it got stuck in androiid is starting, somehow I lost the stock launcher, so it got stuck with no launcher. Found the launcher that came stock, installed it and uninstalled the other 2.
Apps are still crashing, I deleted all apps that I dont really use.
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Lol, that can crash it for sure.
See if you can find a common apk between the effected apps. Any recent system app updates?
New or uninstalled apps?
A system apk may have gotten corrupted.
Android is pretty good compared to Windows when uninstalling apps but occasionally a poorly designed app will screw it up.
It's just about factory reset time or your equivalent.
If it an old load that's probably best anyway.
I haven't reloaded in almost a year but I'm ready to go at any time.
Takes me about 2 hours to get it back within 99%. All the data I need for a full restore is on my SD card otherwise it would an additional 6-8 hours to restore the SD card data as well.
If you don't have a complete reload plan that saves all your critical data no matter what, implement one now before you get burnt.
Those stories are too common here
Dont remember when it started, cause at first it was one app from a github that was having problems, then yesterday magisk started and when I got that working it all when to hell.
The app that I use most has a backup/restore file that I saved on my sd, what do you use to backup/restore?
I would think that some backup solution could bring the problem back or am I mistaken, like if you fully restore something corrupted it should still be corrupted?
A factory reset could be corrupted as well? I mean after a factory reset, assuming its software, could it still have the same problems?
Though I dont really have any critical data on the tablet its mostly for browsing, youtube and reading comics. Still its a bother to re configure everything xD. IIRC I think its only been factory reset once.
Thanks.
It's unlikely the factory reload image is corrupted.
The current one your using likely is.
Other than apps that allow you to back them up like Poweramp or perhaps bookmarks, most app data I would write off just in case that was connected to the current issues.
None of my database is on internal memory except DCIM and downloads (both I back it up at least monthly). Critical apps like Poweramp are backed up on the SD card as export backup files.
The Poweramp setup would literally take a week to recreate. Most apps you can throw together rather easily.
All the SD card data is then again backed up at least twice to other separate drives.
I will try Samsung Smart Switch to restore home settings and see how it does on the next reset.
If you issues are of unknown origins being conservative about what you allow on the new load could save you more time in the long run.
If you unintentionally import corrupted data you'll end up doing it over again.
Or do so if the reload time isn't that great and is an easy write off for you.
Fun times... especially if the reload doesn't fix it
Did a factory reset and problem solved, took me less time than I thought to get my most used apps ready to go.
Thanks for the help.
totopesce said:
Did a factory reset and problem solved, took me less time than I thought to get my most used apps ready to go.
Thanks for the help.
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Yay! Success!
And a minty fresh OS load.
Load apps and especially updates over time to see if one these were the cause.
Forced reloads are rare but they happen usually caused by a rogue app screwing up boot or a malware infection. Otherwise you can usually track down the root cause which is preferable to avoid it from happening again.
Lazy techs misuse factory reset a lot
Will do that, install apps just as I need them and try not to instal a bunch at once.
I had a problem with an sd card and sent it to samsung, they did just that factory reset it and gave it back with the same problem, and they dont even let you know so you can back your stuff up, just lucky it was fairly new at the time and I had the sd card with me.
totopesce said:
Will do that, install apps just as I need them and try not to instal a bunch at once.
I had a problem with an sd card and sent it to samsung, they did just that factory reset it and gave it back with the same problem, and they dont even let you know so you can back your stuff up, just lucky it was fairly new at the time and I had the sd card with me.
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Sammy tech support sucks.
I'm using the Lexar .5 tb V30 card, just format in phone and it's good to go. Zero issues for $64.
Been using it for over a year now. Play movies and music from it all the time from it flawlessly.
Been using Lexar flash cards for over 15 years and all cards are still functional. No failures or card related issues at all. I like that brand a lot.

Why didn't my apps install on my new U11+ ?

I just bought a U11+ as an upgrade to my U11 and am configuring it, which is taking longer than I expected because neither of the two backups I did (htc's and Backup Your Mobile) installed most of the apps (or their data). Also, I've had two System updates in the last two days.
I got my custom background, the Keep Notes app (plus its data) and Facebook; that's pretty much it.
What did I overlook?
Oh, yeah... I cannot find a setting to keep the display on when powered. Anyone know how to do that?
If you did a jump to a new OS version or device that may be why.
If you did any major firmware updates on the new device, it's factory reset time.
Otherwise clear the system cache.
Manually loading them may be your only option.
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blackhawk said:
If you did a jump to a new OS version or device that may be why.
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That occurred to me when I (finally) checked the OS version and saw that it was 8.
I've been getting update notices for the last two days and the most recent one (the third) was the Android 9 OS (update # 2.19.401.2). Where can I check on official updates so I can get an idea when this will stop (because manually looking for updates this morning got me nothing, then I saw the update prompt a couple hours later).
Updated to 9, rebooted and verified that Google Drive is connected, but I'm still not getting Backup & Restore to work. Will have to experiment with the others.
Jeff in 92833 said:
That occurred to me when I (finally) checked the OS version and saw that it was 8.
I've been getting update notices for the last two days and the most recent one (the third) was the Android 9 OS (update # 2.19.401.2). Where can I check on official updates so I can get an idea when this will stop (because manually looking for updates this morning got me nothing, then I saw the update prompt a couple hours later).
Updated to 9, rebooted and verified that Google Drive is connected, but I'm still not getting Backup & Restore to work. Will have to experiment with the others.
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I learned long ago that if your OS is fast, stable and fulfilling its mission, let it be.
I've been on Pie for 2 years, my last reload was 1.5 years ago, still fast and stable with minimum maintenance. What's not to like?
Unless you start screwing with the firmware and bring in new issues that need fixed.
Security generally isn't an issue unless you do something stupid.
There's no saving dumb bunnies... be careful what you load and download.
blackhawk said:
If you did a jump to a new OS version or device that may be why.
If you did any major firmware updates on the new device, it's factory reset time.
Otherwise clear the system cache.
Manually loading them may be your only option.
Welcome to the fking planet
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I did a Factory Reset (but it stayed Android 9). I did this because I had 'restored' a lot of files from Backup Your Mobile's (aka BYM) work on my U11.
Two things are bothering me:
1) The HTC Transfer Tool is not working this time (it transfers the PIN Code, but never gets to CONFIRM. After repeated attempts following reboots, etc., I have noticed that the PIN Code sometimes flickers off and back on again; what's up with that?).
2) BYM transferred my SMS and MMS to my U11+, but clicking on a text message that includes an MMS just makes the message thread avatar flicker and stay on the message thread listing (not even a flicker of the thread is displayed).
You mean screen lock codes?
First I don't password lock devices. You're the most likely one to end up getting locked out.
If you do use one I wouldn't attempt to back it up and transfer it. If it gets corrupted what follows won't be fun.
Pie's a good OS.
Clearing the system cache never hurts to try when experiencing glitches.
blackhawk said:
You mean screen lock codes?
First I don't password lock devices. You're the most likely one to end up getting locked out.
If you do use one I wouldn't attempt to back it up and transfer it. If it gets corrupted what follows won't be fun.
Pie's a good OS.
Clearing the system cache never hurts to try when experiencing glitches.
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No, I did not mean screen lock codes. The HTC Transfer utility worked the first time I tried it before the Factory Reset, but it's not working now. The PIN Code is displayed on the source phone, but it doesn't activate the confirmation button to do the transfer.
I have since learned that many of the apps that were copied over via Google Play's utility also transferred the data, but not all the apps were transferred.
More research to be done, it seems.
Jeff in 92833 said:
No, I did not mean screen lock codes. The HTC Transfer utility worked the first time I tried it before the Factory Reset, but it's not working now. The PIN Code is displayed on the source phone, but it doesn't activate the confirmation button to do the transfer.
I have since learned that many of the apps that were copied over via Google Play's utility also transferred the data, but not all the apps were transferred.
More research to be done, it seems.
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My bad... I use Google search a lot and it doesn't need to be that specific model or OS version most times. Many of the issues are long standing. I even use solutions for other manufacturers models. Whatever comes in handy.
And/or just play with it until I work it out.
I haven't used that app. If you upgraded the firmware or are transferring data from another device these kind apps can screw up especially with app settings.
If you're doing a factory reset because of an issue or a crash they can inadvertently reload the root cause of the issue.
It's nice to save the homescreen, theme, icon setting on a reload using these though. Most apps I hand reload/configure or use the app's backup setting file like with Poweramp or DIGI Clock which are very intensive to set from scratch.
Critical data I save in a master backup folder(s) as files. Be ready to reload at any time as most crashes while rare give little or no warning. Redundantly backup critical data to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Most times a factory reset is to give the device a clean slate. Looking over app settings while setting them up helps to spot things you may have previously missed. It helps a lot to be familiar with the nuts and bolts at the user interface level. Many times when troubleshooting this is where the answers lurk.
I consider my first load or two on a new phone trail runs. After which it's pretty well sorted out for a clean load. I do the same on PCs. Android's are very forgiving but poorly written apps or the user can still skew hidden user settings that are hard to find/access on a stock device. A stable, fast load is a pleasure to use and will run well for a long time with only simple maintenance on a stock Android.

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