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It seems that Android N won't come to Honor 6 and 6 plus. Is it true ?

Since Honor 6 and 6 plus are running on Kirin 920, 925 which doesn't support Vulcan API, it seems that it can't be updated to Nougat.
Will Honor provide it by any alternate means, if any?
Got it from Wiki that Kirin 920 and 925 won't support Vulcan API. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulkan_(API)

most probably it wont get as the gpu fails to be compatible with vulkan

I don't think so

Personally,I think google must remove vulcan api as requirement for update.Its like:
''Your phone has the power to handle the next at least 3 android versions,but since your gpu doesnt support vulcan api,which practically has nothing to do with running the os,fock off.''
I also think that 2 versions forward update thing should be broken,I mean we have ultra fast device with 3gb ram,it just doesnt make sense to get stuck on marshmallow,when some phones which are much weaker than our will get nougat.I even got the phone in the end of july...
Meanwhile apple bricking iphone 5 with ios 10.

MaRtYy01 said:
Personally,I think google must remove vulcan api as requirement for update.Its like:
''Your phone has the power to handle the next at least 3 android versions,but since your gpu doesnt support vulcan api,which practically has nothing to do with running the os,fock off.''
I also think that 2 versions forward update thing should be broken,I mean we have ultra fast device with 3gb ram,it just doesnt make sense to get stuck on marshmallow,when some phones which are much weaker than our will get nougat.I even got the phone in the end of july...
Meanwhile apple bricking iphone 5 with ios 10.
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yeah, thats so sad.
mainly because of some stupid decison made by google

MaRtYy01 said:
Personally,I think google must remove vulcan api as requirement for update.Its like:
''Your phone has the power to handle the next at least 3 android versions,but since your gpu doesnt support vulcan api,which practically has nothing to do with running the os,fock off.''
I also think that 2 versions forward update thing should be broken,I mean we have ultra fast device with 3gb ram,it just doesnt make sense to get stuck on marshmallow,when some phones which are much weaker than our will get nougat.I even got the phone in the end of july...
Meanwhile apple bricking iphone 5 with ios 10.
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I agree with you, because of this many great smartphones (like GS5, 1+1 G3...etc) won't get official update

MaRtYy01 said:
Personally,I think google must remove vulcan api as requirement for update.Its like:
''Your phone has the power to handle the next at least 3 android versions,but since your gpu doesnt support vulcan api,which practically has nothing to do with running the os,fock off.''
I also think that 2 versions forward update thing should be broken,I mean we have ultra fast device with 3gb ram,it just doesnt make sense to get stuck on marshmallow,when some phones which are much weaker than our will get nougat.I even got the phone in the end of july...
Meanwhile apple bricking iphone 5 with ios 10.
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It can be optional but not compulsary.
In Honor series of smartphone this affects Honor 6, 6 plus and 7.

PalakMi said:
I agree with you, because of this many great smartphones (like GS5, 1+1 G3...etc) won't get official update
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Yes indeed.The 2014 generation flagships finished the progress that the 2013 ones started,what I mean is that they are still running on almost full speed as on their launch,older flagships(galaxy s3 is a perfect example) started to get pretty laggy at some point.If vulcan api is the thing that stopped the breaking of the 2 versions forward update scheme,I hope that at least the 2015 gen ones will do it when android 8 comes out.
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vsriram92 said:
It can be optional but not compulsary.
In Honor series of smartphone this affects Honor 6, 6 plus and 7.
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I hope at least honor 7 will get the update.Its just 1 year old and got just 1 major update,deserves nougat for sure.

MaRtYy01 said:
Yes indeed.The 2014 generation flagships finished the progress that the 2013 ones started,what I mean is that they are still running on almost full speed as on their launch,older flagships(galaxy s3 is a perfect example) started to get pretty laggy at some point.If vulcan api is the thing that stopped the breaking of the 2 versions forward update scheme,I hope that at least the 2015 gen ones will do it when android 8 comes out.
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most phones should get android 7 as their gpu's have vulkan support, bt its still upto eoms, weather to update or not, even vulkan api supported phones may still be betrayed

Google is the only one to blame here

venom007 said:
most phones should get android 7 as their gpus have vulkan support, bt its still upto eoms, weather to update or not, even vulkan api supported phones may still be betrayed
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We can't do anything for betrayal by OEM.. But in this case, OEM do think to provide updates. Due to google restriction, they were unable to.

vsriram92 said:
We can't do anything for betrayal by OEM.. But in this case, OEM do think to provide updates. Due to google restriction, they were unable to.
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They're helpless

PalakMi said:
They're helpless
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Only Google can reconsider its policies if people makes the Google to know that we are heavily dissatisfied on this.

vsriram92 said:
Only Google can reconsider its policies if people makes the Google to know that we are heavily dissatisfied on this.
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It's seems that google won't listen (trying to sell the pixel no matter what)

PalakMi said:
It's seems that google won't listen (trying to sell the pixel no matter what)
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Honor 7 , Honor 6, Honor 6 plus are affected in Honor line by this decision

vsriram92 said:
Honor 7 , Honor 6, Honor 6 plus are affected in Honor line by this decision
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Those are great phones, unfortunately they won't taste nougat

Cant huawei just release updated drivers and source so devs would be able to build 7.0 themselves?It seems more realistic than a whole new official update.
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MaRtYy01 said:
Cant huawei just release updated drivers and source so devs would be able to build 7.0 themselves?It seems more realistic than a whole new official update.
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As of now, Huawei has not released most of the sources. So I doubt that this will happen.

MaRtYy01 said:
Cant huawei just release updated drivers and source so devs would be able to build 7.0 themselves?It seems more realistic than a whole new official update.
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It didn't even release the basics to building custom ROMs. I doubt they'll do ot now

They already distributed source code some time ago. But no Vulkan support, no Nougat update.

UMIDIGI S2 Pro

Has anyone started to work on ROM for this phone, looking at the spec of this phone looks promising, it has a large battery capacity which is great but look at battery test for this phone it looks like stock software is not optimized, so just wondering if the community is willing to help optimize or any advise

Bi1a11979 said:
Has anyone started to work on ROM for this phone, looking at the spec of this phone looks promising, it has a large battery capacity which is great but look at battery test for this phone it looks like stock software is not optimized, so just wondering if the community is willing to help optimize or any advise
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the review of low configuration umidigi S2 you can see on Youtube

I've got the regular S2 for a couple of weeks now. It's a good phone with some downsides. Camera is not fantastic but good enough for everyday stuff. If you want amazing photos buy a flagship. Proximity sensor doesn't turn off screen properly while in a call, maybe fixed in future version. One of the major networks in Germany does not work for mobile data in most cases (O2 and Eplus joined and the phone can't handle the "data roaming").
Tech support is non existant. They will point you to their half chinese forums with barely any members that is spammed with press releases. Posting takes dozens of "money" that you must unlock with posts. Very unprofessional but maybe expected for such a relatively small company. There are no service addresses for repairs and the accessories market for that phone is very very limited. Barely any cases or screen protectors out there. If you break anything on this phone expect to get a new one. I have not tried yet but to get replacement parts for this seems near impossible at this point.
Other than that, screen is great for the resolution. Battery life is absolutely brilliant. I can get through a full day with using <40% battery and it lasts easily 3+ days on pure standby.
Wifi has become much better I think after the last firmware update. They are updating the phone but I wonder for how long. This is not a manufacturer that can or wants to support all of it's devices like big ones do.
Materials are good, maybe a bit slippery in the hands but all microblasted aluminium phones are like that.
Screen has a <1mm bezel between the side of the phone and the display surface but I don't care about that.
Build, to me, feels very good. Fingerprint sensor works well and fast. Android is 6.0.1 but I hope they will have an update to 7 or 8 at some point.
I don't care about benchmarks so I can't talk about that, my apps work well. Video streaming is fluid. No idea about 3D gaming I don't use my phone for that.
For that price it's a great phone imho.

Have just pre-ordered this device. Will wait to see what comes, hopefully able to unlock the bootloader and remove any bloatware that comes pre-installed.

It exist a custom rom for s2? I'd like
It has poor camera, other things are very good
What kind of custom could fix in it? Paranoid android?

esclusoilcane said:
It has poor camera, other things are very good
What kind of custom could fix in it? Paranoid android?
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Apparently it's possible to install TWRP on this Umidigi S2 :
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-twrp-umidigi-s2-s2-pro/
I don't have Umidigi S2 to test but I'm very interested by the S2 Pro.
Perhaps it is possible to install Lenovo SNAPit Camera in order to improve the photos by flashing it with TWRP ? :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-lenovo-snapit-camera-redmi-note-4-t3608065

Does it support volt in india (to call using jio)

PJKO said:
Apparently it's possible to install TWRP on this Umidigi S2 :
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-twrp-umidigi-s2-s2-pro/
I don't have Umidigi S2 to test but I'm very interested by the S2 Pro.
Perhaps it is possible to install Lenovo SNAPit Camera in order to improve the photos by flashing it with TWRP ? :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-lenovo-snapit-camera-redmi-note-4-t3608065
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This post was a cut and paste from another phone.
Now the link for the custom recovery is available. I will probably give it a try just to be able to root the phone.
As of today, there is no available custom ROM available for the umidigi s2, although you can find posts on how to revert back to the stock ROM. Those posts are also just cut and pasted from other phones sharing the same cpu
Sent from my S2 using Tapatalk

mine is out for delivery on the 23/11 not bad delivery from gearbest HK to UK ordered 16/11 shipped 18/11 dhl express paid £5-70 then a further £26 import duties from dhl , Reg S2 hopefully shipping with android 7.0 buy now but doubtful , hope the phone gets it's own section in the development department ,,
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Does this phone have NFC?

PJKO said:
Apparently it's possible to install TWRP on this Umidigi S2 :
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-twrp-umidigi-s2-s2-pro/
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I just tried that and while the recovery installs my phone wouldn't boot afterwards. Maybe because I have the main partition encrypted but maybe for another reason.
Also for me the screen was flipped 180 degrees probably due to a backwards display in this phone.

hellrokr said:
Does this phone have NFC?
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I think only pro has nfc I don't see it on mine
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DoobyDroid said:
I think only pro has nfc I don't see it on mine
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Could not find it anywhere. Nowhere is it mentioned even for the pro version.

r0ckarong said:
I just tried that and while the recovery installs my phone wouldn't boot afterwards. Maybe because I have the main partition encrypted but maybe for another reason.
Also for me the screen was flipped 180 degrees probably due to a backwards display in this phone.
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Still early days I wouldn't personally try it but I'm sure in time this phone will get Dev support , I had some feed back from umi on there FB page regarding update to 7/8 they said there waiting on MediaTek's to release source or sdk as this P20 chip was built around Android 6 at the time and the P25 around 7 that's why pro ships with 7 that's what they said , also mentioned an update coming with a week but more likely bug patch still on Jan 2017 security , not the best look on a 2017 phone 2015 os
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hellrokr said:
Could not find it anywhere. Nowhere is it mentioned even for the pro version.
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I'm sure I read somewhere some regions got nfc how true that is
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I personally would consider it for a next phone, though I'm not sure if the TWRP image for the S2 works on the S2 pro.

r0ckarong said:
I've got the regular S2 for a couple of weeks now. It's a good phone with some downsides. Camera is not fantastic but good enough for everyday stuff. If you want amazing photos buy a flagship. Proximity sensor doesn't turn off screen properly while in a call, maybe fixed in future version. One of the major networks in Germany does not work for mobile data in most cases (O2 and Eplus joined and the phone can't handle the "data roaming").
Tech support is non existant. They will point you to their half chinese forums with barely any members that is spammed with press releases. Posting takes dozens of "money" that you must unlock with posts. Very unprofessional but maybe expected for such a relatively small company. There are no service addresses for repairs and the accessories market for that phone is very very limited. Barely any cases or screen protectors out there. If you break anything on this phone expect to get a new one. I have not tried yet but to get replacement parts for this seems near impossible at this point.
Other than that, screen is great for the resolution. Battery life is absolutely brilliant. I can get through a full day with using <40% battery and it lasts easily 3+ days on pure standby.
Wifi has become much better I think after the last firmware update. They are updating the phone but I wonder for how long. This is not a manufacturer that can or wants to support all of it's devices like big ones do.
Materials are good, maybe a bit slippery in the hands but all microblasted aluminium phones are like that.
Screen has a <1mm bezel between the side of the phone and the display surface but I don't care about that.
Build, to me, feels very good. Fingerprint sensor works well and fast. Android is 6.0.1 but I hope they will have an update to 7 or 8 at some point.
I don't care about benchmarks so I can't talk about that, my apps work well. Video streaming is fluid. No idea about 3D gaming I don't use my phone for that.
For that price it's a great phone imho.
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Hi
Please check and correct me If I am wrong. According to UMI claimed that the first batch of S2 v1 come with non up gradable processor and hence, you can only maintain at Marshmallow version ie. Android 6 while S2 v2 (so called 2nd batch) can be upgraded to Android 7 (no idea to Android 8???). So guys, please check directly with UMI on this issue. I am thinking of getting the S2 Pro but would like UMI to confirm whether same issue with S2 v1 ???? Cheer s -

NDbluewee said:
Hi
Please check and correct me If I am wrong. According to UMI claimed that the first batch of S2 v1 come with non up gradable processor and hence, you can only maintain at Marshmallow version ie. Android 6 while S2 v2 (so called 2nd batch) can be upgraded to Android 7 (no idea to Android 8???). So guys, please check directly with UMI on this issue. I am thinking of getting the S2 Pro but would like UMI to confirm whether same issue with S2 v1 ???? Cheer s -
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I did get sim info from umi regarding diff chips that are built on certain version of Android v1 Android 6 V2 Android 7 they won't answer the question weather V1 can update to 7 all I got was there waiting for MediaTek to release source but unless big demand that will very unlikely happen as they have no need to probably
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DoobyDroid said:
I did get sim info from umi regarding diff chips that are built on certain version of Android v1 Android 6 V2 Android 7 they won't answer the question weather V1 can update to 7 all I got was there waiting for MediaTek to release source but unless big demand that will very unlikely happen as they have no need to probably
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Below is the info extracted from Umidigi Forum lately .......
"Quote" They said the first batch of S2 will keep on Android 6 (there will be some updates, but nothing of update to Android 7). So the second batch of S2 and the S2 Pro will come with UMI OS Android 7. Anybody received handset with android 7.0 what date are the V2 or is that just referring to the Pro , mine is due 23/11 ordered 16/11 wondered if it will be V2 model with 7.0. Seems odd 2017 handset shipping with 2015 software .... Phone i received week ago got Android 6 so its V1. That will not work on the first v1 of Umidigi S2 sadly. It's made for MT6757D (S2 v2).
How ever there are phones out there already with MT6757 (Not MT6757D) will be on Android 7.0. "Unquote"
Hope this clear some of your thoughts. Thank you.

Bit of a con from umi
Won't be keeping it long then
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DoobyDroid said:
Bit of a con from umi
Won't be keeping it long then
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This is what I got the reply from UMI moderator
S2 version 1 coming with Android 6 and can't be updated to higher android version.
S2 version 2 will be coming with Umidigi OS based on Android 7. Further updates are not confirmed.
S2 pro is coming with Umidigi OS based on Android 7. Further updates are not confirmed.
:silly::fingers-crossed:

Anyone have hands-on experience with the Maze Alpha X?

Heard interesting things about it, including it had a lousy camera, but a big screen and 6GB RAM for under $200? I winder if the ,market is headed that way.
INterested not so much oin the benchmarks, but rather hands on feel and UE.
Thanks!
IB

Hi, I have the maze alpha X 6/64 for a couple of week now.
The goods:
price
Ram
Almost stock android (I think)
The bad:
Camera
Helio p20 not as fast as I was thinking (maybe it's not really optimized?)
No official ROM update since November 17 (android 7.0 patch November 2017)
Sorry for my English
If you need any test or info, please ask :good:

Fatt0 said:
Hi, I have the maze alpha X 6/64 for a couple of week now.
The goods:
price
Ram
Almost stock android (I think)
The bad:
Camera
Helio p20 not as fast as I was thinking (maybe it's not really optimized?)
No official ROM update since November 17 (android 7.0 patch November 2017)
Sorry for my English
If you need any test or info, please ask :good:
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if is exist custom rom ?

Samsung / Android - Audio Latency

Hi there.
It seems that Samsung devices (along with some other brands) and operating system Android have a severe latency problem when it comes to audio apps and connecting midi sources ect. It seems the nations favourite is Apple and IOs as there audio latency issues are alot more stable. Surely this must be some kind of software glitch.
Is there a fix?

depends what you are running and whats on it..
https://superpowered.com/latency
a 1+ 3t running 6.0.1 is quite good compared to iOS
OnePlus OnePlus3T
Android 6.0.1 (MOB30Z ddb458ca7c) - 17 ms
iPhone 6
(8.3) - 18 ms
There is no one definitive answer or fix...
https://www.xda-developers.com/androids-audio-latency-problem/

DSA said:
depends what you are running and whats on it..
https://superpowered.com/latency
a 1+ 3t running 6.0.1 is quite good compared to iOS
OnePlus OnePlus3T
Android 6.0.1 (MOB30Z ddb458ca7c) - 17 ms
iPhone 6
(8.3) - 18 ms
There is no one definitive answer or fix...
https://www.xda-developers.com/androids-audio-latency-problem/
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Yes that is correct. However, it seems the issue is with Samsung devices. I need values matching iphone kind of values, as the same apps that run on IOS work flawless.
I was told the google nexus or pixes devices running pure Android are the best for latency issues but i did not own one of these devices to test.
It seems Samsungs are miles behind if you compare the results.

Best phone for custom ROM

I'm trying to work backwards - find a phone in the used market that'll support open source ROM. I can scan through various device forums but problem is I'm not so familiar with devices esp the Chinese brands. Plus it's too many. Hoping someone can help.
My criteria
- introduced 2022 or later
- big screen 6.4"+
- mid range ok not too high end, for cost reasons
- supported by at least one custom ROM. Or likely to be in very near future.
- not Pixel obviously cos it already has such ROM.
Xiaomi 11 Lite NE seems perfect but I'll be happy with a newer device.
Thanks in advance..

Look into LOS website to see what phones ( actually ) are officially supported:
LineageOS 20 Supported Phones: All Models For 2023 [UPDATED]
Here's a quick breakdown of ALL the Android phones that can run LineageOS 20...
www.knowyourmobile.com

xXx yYy said:
Look into LOS website to see what phones ( actually ) are officially supported:
LineageOS 20 Supported Phones: All Models For 2023 [UPDATED]
Here's a quick breakdown of ALL the Android phones that can run LineageOS 20...
www.knowyourmobile.com
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Thanks..