Will superfast wired charging kill wireless charging? - General Topics

When I bought my Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra, I looked around for wireless chargers. The official Samsung store was out of stock, and so I settled for a 3rd party wireless charger which had good ratings on Amazon.
It charges my S22U fine. I see 'Fast wireless charging' show up on my phone and the phone charges as expected.
Then I bought an iPhone 13 Mini with the official MagSafe charger.
Here are my observations:
1. Wireless charging takes atleast twice the time that is taken by wired charging.
2. Wireless charging generates a lot more heat than wired charging. This is bad for the phone.
3. You can't use your phone for the most part when it is charging wirelessly. And you shouldn't too given the amount of heat that it generates.
While Samsung, Apple, Google do not allow more than 15W wireless charging, some brands allow upto 50W wireless charging. But that also means a lot of heat being generated, which is really bad.
So I made it a point to not keep my phone on the wireless charger for more than an hour to limit the heat generated. I would use wired charging in the morning to fully charge my phone while I'm busy with my morning chores, and then use the wireless charger for topping up the charge in the evening.
And with superfast charging offered by most Chinese brands today, the need for wireless charging diminishes even more. Fully charging a phone under 20 minutes will become the norm in a couple of years. This will also be more convenient than using a wireless charger that had only one thing to offer: convenience.
Do you think superfast wired charging will kill the inefficient, time consuming, heat generating (and component damaging) and less convenient wireless charging technology completely?

Wireless charging is just a convenient gimmick, in my opinion. Wired charging will always be superior to wireless charging for the main reason that direct contact is more efficient than inductive coupling. There is a reason why power transformers use ferrous cores instead of air gaps.
I don't think it will go away, though. People like the idea of placing their phone on a charging surface instead of fumbling for a cable. I personally would prefer the cable simply because I use my phone often, but not everyone uses their device the same way.

V0latyle said:
Wireless charging is just a convenient gimmick, in my opinion.
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That is actually true.
V0latyle said:
People like the idea of placing their phone on a charging surface instead of fumbling for a cable.
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I find myself fumbling more with placing the phone properly on the wireless charger. Wired charging is actually much simpler and no fumbles.
iPhones have the magnets in them to address this issue, but the circular magsafe rings I see on most cases that support magsafe charging makes them look so annoyingly ugly.

I only like wired charging, wired Ethernet, wired POTs, wired alarm system, wired operator switch board !

EdT586 said:
I only like wired charging, wired Ethernet, wired POTs, wired alarm system, wired operator switch board !
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Why so?
Wireless technology is improving and is definitely more convenient.
But wireless charging has still a long way to go because currently it is very inefficient, time consuming and potentially damaging to the phones.

TheMystic said:
Why so?
Wireless technology is improving and is definitely more convenient.
But wireless charging has still a long way to go because currently it is very inefficient, time consuming and potentially damaging to the phones.
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"Everything Should Be Made as Simple as Possible, But Not Simpler" - Albert Einstein
Because I am a purist !

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[Q] QI charging vs Sony Magnetic charging. What do u prefer?

Ok so I was told by a Sony store employee that the Z4 might have wireless charging and most likely it is Qi based. I have had a lot of experience with wireless charging with the N6 for which I bought a Tylt Vu since I was told it was the fastest but alas it's much much slower than the stock charger and also slower to a cheap Nokia stock charger belonging to some dumb phone.
I prefer the magnetic dock system it charges my Sony faster than the wireless system of the N6 it would truly be a step back if Sony only included Qi and deleted the magnetic system from the next flagship. Don't get me wrong the Tylt Vu is a very capable dock but when compared to the likes of Sony DK docks it's not half as grippy neither does it charge as fast.
What do you all think ?
I like the convenience of wireless charging that my nexus 5 had, It's something I miss on the z3. Not really a fan of the magnetic charging
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rxil said:
I like the convenience of wireless charging that my nexus 5 had, It's something I miss on the z3. Not really a fan of the magnetic charging
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Out of interest, how can anyone have a problem with magnetic charging? The usb socket is a weak point on many devices; often they're glued or soldered onto the boards with no regard for longevity - indeed, it wouldn't surprise me if they are deliberate weakpoints, exempt from warranty ("you must have broken it") etc. Magnetic connectors solve all that. Sure, add QI to magnetic (and usb, for data transfer if you can't use wifi for some reason) but I see no downsides to providing magnetic.
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Out of interest, how can anyone have a problem with magnetic charging? The usb socket is a weak point on many devices; often they're glued or soldered onto the boards with no regard for longevity - indeed, it wouldn't surprise me if they are deliberate weakpoints, exempt from warranty ("you must have broken it") etc. Magnetic connectors solve all that. Sure, add QI to magnetic (and usb, for data transfer if you can't use wifi for some reason) but I see no downsides to providing magnetic.
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I agree that the USB port is the weak spot on a device, and will you bring up some good points I don't want to have both of them on my device I'd rather have one or the other but USB charging is more mainstream than the magnetic charging. I've only had my z3 for a few days and haven't gotten around to using the magnetic charging. Waitimg for the adpter in the mail.
Slow charging, for example overnight: Qi for comfort reasons, not cable attached and charging time doesn't matter
Very fast charging, for example "i got 5%, have to get out in 30minutes and got to make it through the day!": USB due to fastest charging times
Casual charging, for example "let's plug it in in the afternoon, my Z3 will make it through the night without any losses and through the next day": Magnetic charging
I don't want to wear out the USB port flap, so i bought the magnetic charging cable even before the Z3 arrived. I guess it will do in everyday usage, i'll have a look on the charging rates. If they're too slow for "power charging", i'll switch to USB.
However, a few months ago i only charged my phone over night. I would have loved to have Qi charging back then, so much better than to find out how to plug in the USB cable in complete darkness.
CentaXx said:
Slow charging, for example overnight: Qi for comfort reasons, not cable attached and charging time doesn't matter
Very fast charging, for example "i got 5%, have to get out in 30minutes and got to make it through the day!": USB due to fastest charging times
Casual charging, for example "let's plug it in in the afternoon, my Z3 will make it through the night without any losses and through the next day": Magnetic charging
I don't want to wear out the USB port flap, so i bought the magnetic charging cable even before the Z3 arrived. I guess it will do in everyday usage, i'll have a look on the charging rates. If they're too slow for "power charging", i'll switch to USB.
However, a few months ago i only charged my phone over night. I would have loved to have Qi charging back then, so much better than to find out how to plug in the USB cable in complete darkness.
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Some people claim the magnetic charging is faster than usb. I wouldn't know - i've only used usb to charge it once, and I was playing around with stamina mode at the time (for some reason stamina mode really slows down charging).
I wish this phone supported wireless charging! I charge with the Sony DK magnetic dock and it works well but can get a little finicky to get seated properly but I still prefer it to fiddling with those micro-USB connectors. I charge overnight 90% of the time and so even if wireless charging is slower that's fine with me. I'm ok having to plug in if I need a quicker charge when I forget to charge the night before, although with the Z3 that's not as big a deal because it's not too tough to stretch two days out of a charge with moderate use (on a bit of a limp towards the end of the second day).
This phone would be pretty close to perfect for me if it had wireless charging, a removable battery, and no ultra-slippery glass back (I really don't like the glass back!!).
I just slide the phone into the correct position no need to put in in a specific way. I have fixed the dock with double side tape all I need to find in the dark is the groove in the dock and slide the phone in place. As far as overnight charging is concerned I use the dock overnight without any problems. For the Nexus 6 the tylt vu dock its not a stable combo I mean it's really not sturdy any sort of vibration causes the Nexus 6 to detach so it's not the dock for overnight recharge.
I use qi chargers on samsung's phones and magnetic on Z ultra. Qi charger is very convenient and beside slow charging and heat disipation there is no minuses ( I have qi car charger from nokia and works well with all phones), magnetic charger is faster BUT you are still connected to a cable and the weak magnet is making the solution unusable in car. A COMBINATION OF THEM WILL BE THE PERFECT SOLUTION
P.S. Sony make some great accesories...why the h__l they did not made a magneting car dock I don't understand...
P.S.2 qi charger for moto 360 works like a charm....the best solution of all regarding smartwatch charging

Add Wireless Charging To Your Pixel XL

Hey guys, Rydah805 here with a nice little review on something cool that was sent to me from Chotech; A USB Type-C wireless charging kit. Basically, what it does is awesome by simply adding wireless charging capabilities to devices (such as my Google Pixel XL) that do not support it out of the box. You will obviously need a wireless charging pad for this to have any function. I personally own two, a Samsung branded wireless fast charger and Choetech’s very own wireless fast charger. For this review, I tested using both in which results were the same. Before we begin, I'd like to make it clear that I am in no way associated with Choetech.
How it works is even simpler too. You plug the wireless charging receiver into your USB Type-C charging port, stick the actual wireless charging receiver to the back of your device (sticking not necessary is using a case but do note that it will leave an ever so slight bump with a case.) After plugging it in and having the wireless charging receiver mounted to the back, you're pretty much set. Now when you want to charge your device, you may just dock it onto your wireless charger.
As for wireless charging speed, I wasn’t able to get it to charge “rapidly” as my Google stock charger states, but charging time wasn’t too far off and isn’t noticeable if charging overnight or if just sitting on your desk at work, like me in both of those scenarios.
When it comes to quality of looks and materials, it meets my expectations but then again, what could you really expect? And if you're curious about the specs on this little guy, it is using qi wireless charging technologies with an output of 5v/1a. This is obviously lower than the stock wired charging rates and of course speed but again, if you’re like me, always at your desk or at home, this isn’t too big of a deal. YMMV.
Now for my personal look and opinion on it. I think it’s cool and coming from a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and even more recently, the best worst phone ever, the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 (R.I.P.), wireless charging was definitely missed when switching to the LG V20 and now again with the Google Pixel XL. I definitely like having this as an option and thank Choetech for giving me one to review. Personally, I do not use it quite often as I am a freak about having my phone as thin as possible (thin case fans, where you at!?) but if I weren’t into thin cases, this would stay on my device all the time.
To sum this baby up, it’s great. It gets the job done and does what it came to do, add wireless charging to your incapable device. LOL
8/10 (Wish wireless charging speeds were better but it isn’t a killer for me.)
Link to purchase coming soon.
Looks cool. I really miss having wireless charging since I just plop my phone down on my desk or when it's bed time and I don't have to worry about the port wearing out. This is my first USB C device, so I'm curious to see how well it holds up.
Does your wireless charging pad have much heat when it's charging, both in a case, or if you had direct contact between the receiver and charging pad?
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Looks cool. I really miss having wireless charging since I just plop my phone down on my desk or when it's bed time and I don't have to worry about the port wearing out. This is my first USB C device, so I'm curious to see how well it holds up.
Does your wireless charging pad have much heat when it's charging, both in a case, or if you had direct contact between the receiver and charging pad?
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Nope, actually stays about the same temperature wise which is nice. 😁
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That sounds pretty cool. The reviews I have read on other ones was that the charge speed was much slower. Don't need rapid charge but standard speed would be more than good enough for me. A few reviews I read said that putting one on a wireless charge dead at night it wouldn't even be fully charged over night. I will probably buy one of these as soon as the link goes up Couldn't find it yet on Amazon.

[q] Wireless Charging Vs Wired Charging - Impact on Battery

Hey guys,
I was looking for some clarification on this topic.
So I heard on a youtube video (can't remember which, for the life of me, I just know it was an S8 video) that Wireless Charging has a better impact on battery in the long run.
They had stated that the battery would continue to hold a better charge over time, where as, if you used wired charging, the amount of charge the battery can hold over time would be much less to when you first got it.
Now I do know that battery gets worse over time, however, I have never heard anything about how wireless charging can increase the longitivtiy of the battery.
Maybe someone on here might have more information on this?
I will try to find that youtube video but if this is the case, then I will definitely need to get a wireless charger.
Regards
Unless this youtuber tested 2 phones for a year, charging one with a cable and another with wireless charging i wouldn't listen to what they're saying.
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Unless this youtuber tested 2 phones for a year, charging one with a cable and another with wireless charging i wouldn't listen to what they're saying.
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Yeah I agree. A believe a charge cycle is the same regardless of how it is being charged.
Would never think wired charging puts more stress on battery life.
I think though that with wireless charging once the phone is fully charged the pad cuts out so it won't over charge
With a wired connection when the phone is charged its still consistently trying to charge which can end up damage battering the long term
craigels said:
I think though that with wireless charging once the phone is fully charged the pad cuts out so it won't over charge
With a wired connection when the phone is charged its still consistently trying to charge which can end up damage battering the long term
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This is also what I have been wondering. If this is true then I may get a nice wireless pad for charging overnight (maybe the new official samsung "convertible" one but its damn expensive). I would have thought that the phone itself knows when a battery is charged and stops drawing the current from the cable though, so it would make no difference either way if that is true (but perhaps its not?).
But I did hear the exact opposite to op, that wireless charging was worse for the batteries, possibly due to the heat generated. But I don't know how true that is.
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It's better for the battery because it charges it more slowly than a direct wired connection. There is no more heat buildup than using a wired charger, in fact likely less since the charging rate is lower.
As for the other comment that a wired charger doesn't shut off but keeps charging once the battery is full is patently false. The charging circuits whether wired or wireless are quite intelligent and gradually ramp down the charging current as the battery approaches capacity, ultimately delivering just enough current to keep the phone running. In a closed system the energy has to go somewhere and if the charger didn't do this you'd have 18W of power being dissipated as heat and a serious problem on your hands.
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It's better for the battery because it charges it more slowly than a direct wired connection. There is no more heat buildup than using a wired charger, in fact likely less since the charging rate is lower.
As for the other comment that a wired charger doesn't shut off but keeps charging once the battery is full is patently false. The charging circuits whether wired or wireless are quite intelligent and gradually ramp down the charging current as the battery approaches capacity, ultimately delivering just enough current to keep the phone running. In a closed system the energy has to go somewhere and if the charger didn't do this you'd have 18W of power being dissipated as heat and a serious problem on your hands.
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For wireless I believe the heat generated is more, it is about the method of delivering the power, not the speed. The induction used to transfer power wirelessly is obviously going to be far less efficient and will generate more heat to get even a slower transfer rate then getting the power straight down a cable (but if someone knows otherwise then feel free to correct me). But then I guess the slower charging rate might also put less stress on the battery which is probably good.
For the wired, what you are basically saying is that leaving a phone plugged in to a wired charger will not harm it since the current will have been reduced in the same way a car battery charger might reduce it to a "maintenance" mode once it is fully charged. So people are believing the old myths that you can overcharge a phone, which would seem to be impossible (although I do wonder why they keep slapping up notifications saying things like "FULLY CHARGED! UNPLUG CABLE!" as if leaving it plugged in would in some way damage it!).
Just saw this which explains the overcharging possibility (or lack of)
http://www.androidauthority.com/leave-phone-plugged-overnight-703078/
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For wireless I believe the heat generated is more, it is about the method of delivering the power, not the speed. [/url]
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The coils themselves don't generate a significant amount of heat, it's the battery itself that causes the phone to get hot. Slower charging means less heat, which is better for your battery so wireless charging will increase your battery life. As the article notes it is also best to keep your phone above 40% charge, partly because fast chargers slow down significantly after 50% to save the battery. That initial burst from 0-50% is done to save you from a dying battery but it takes its toll.
Also note that the S8/S8+ have new battery technology that provides much improved battery life. They're saying 5% loss of capacity after two years compared to 20% for previous generations.
As a bonus not continuously plugging/unplugging a cable from your USB port will make that last longer too. I hardly ever plug my S7 Edge into a physical cable, and I know quite a few people who have killed their USB ports and can no longer charge and or transfer data from them.
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The coils themselves don't generate a significant amount of heat, it's the battery itself that causes the phone to get hot. Slower charging means less heat, which is better for your battery so wireless charging will increase your battery life. As the article notes it is also best to keep your phone above 40% charge, partly because fast chargers slow down significantly after 50% to save the battery. That initial burst from 0-50% is done to save you from a dying battery but it takes its toll.
Also note that the S8/S8+ have new battery technology that provides much improved battery life. They're saying 5% loss of capacity after two years compared to 20% for previous generations.
As a bonus not continuously plugging/unplugging a cable from your USB port will make that last longer too. I hardly ever plug my S7 Edge into a physical cable, and I know quite a few people who have killed their USB ports and can no longer charge and or transfer data from them.
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Yeah I am torn at the moment between using cable and getting a wireless charger. I like my stuff charged asap but that's partly because i never leave it plugged in overnight and want it charged before bed (which I now know is not a problem anyway) and partly because i want to be able to unplug it to use it if i get a message or email, which isn't an issue with wireless as I can just pick it up and put it back on there after. I assume taking it off the charging pad and putting it back on will not have any detrimental effects to the battery. I am just trying to weigh up the pros and cons of each. All things considered I am leaning towards wireless, particularly if it isn't worse for the battery (although lets face it the difference in degradation between wireless and wired, is going to be so small it's probably not even noticeable after a couple of years by which time I would have a new phone anyway). I wonder if there is a better wireless charger which will be more future proof than the new convertible samsung one (in case I ditch samsung in future) and still give max speed, I would like one that is tilted so I can see the screen though.
My s5 is 3 years old and has only ever been charged by the massive double width "micro USB" cable which takes some force to get in and out of the socket. Still works perfectly though. Never had any usb port of any kind on any device fail, no idea what these other people are doing to kill them!
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Yeah I am torn at the moment between using cable and getting a wireless charger.
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Having the dock by my bed is very convenient. Just place it on at night and pick it up during the morning. If I need to grab it for anything I can without getting tangled up in wires and it even sits at the right angle so that the always on display becomes my nightstand clock/alarm clock. Once you've gone wireless you won't go back.
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Having the dock by my bed is very convenient. Just place it on at night and pick it up during the morning. If I need to grab it for anything I can without getting tangled up in wires and it even sits at the right angle so that the always on display becomes my nightstand clock/alarm clock. Once you've gone wireless you won't go back.
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I always turn my phone off at night anyway so I don't get disturbed by some spam message or something (I know I can probably set it up to be silent at certain times, but then why leave it on at all, using the battery for nothing). £70 for that Samsung charger though!! I know there are much cheaper ones but I am not sure they will charge at the same rate, the new samsung one charges faster than any previous wireless charger AFAIK and I would want one where the phone can sit up, and most are just flat. Hmmmm although the do have it for £50 on amazon sold by "fonejoy", still steep though.
This one looks good https://www.amazon.co.uk/CHOETECH-W...=UTF8&qid=1492192247&sr=1-9&keywords=choetech but not sure if itll charge at the same speed as the new samsung one and doesnt use a USB-C connector which probably rules it out. May as well just get the samsung one.
I use the US version of this and it works fine. https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Mobile-P...d=1492192742&sr=1-5&keywords=rav+power+qc+2.0. The Fast Charging Dock comes with a cable so that should be all you need.
And yes, I have my Do Not Disturb settings to suppress notifications 10:30PM to 6:30AM. Wife complained she couldn't sleep with all that noise going on
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I use the US version of this and it works fine. https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Mobile-P...d=1492192742&sr=1-5&keywords=rav+power+qc+2.0. The Fast Charging Dock comes with a cable so that should be all you need.
And yes, I have my Do Not Disturb settings to suppress notifications 10:30PM to 6:30AM. Wife complained she couldn't sleep with all that noise going on
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Thats a wall charger? I'm talking about the charging pad itself. I believe the new Samsung one outputs 15w so is faster than any previous ones which are all 10w I think.
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Thats a wall charger? I'm talking about the charging pad itself. I believe the new Samsung one outputs 15w so is faster than any previous ones which are all 10w I think.
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There are only two types of charging dock, standard and fast-charge. None of them output 15W to the phone. The expensive Samsung is just a fancy fast-charge dock so it will charge at the same rate as the Seneo and others that support fast-charge. The Samsung fast-charge adapter only provides a maximum output power of 15W (9V @ 1.67A) so it would require 100% transfer efficiency to charge the phone at that power, and in reality it's only about 65% so at most you'll see 10W versus standard Qi charging at around 7W.
All of the Seneo chargers I have coupled with RavPower or Samsung Fast-Charge adapters charge at the same rate (10W to begin with tapering off to 7W above 50% charge).
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There are only two types of charging dock, standard and fast-charge. None of them output 15W to the phone. The expensive Samsung is just a fancy fast-charge dock so it will charge at the same rate as the Seneo and others that support fast-charge. The Samsung fast-charge adapter only provides a maximum output power of 15W (9V @ 1.67A) so it would require 100% transfer efficiency to charge the phone at that power, and in reality it's only about 65% so at most you'll see 10W versus standard Qi charging at around 7W.
All of the Seneo chargers I have coupled with RavPower or Samsung Fast-Charge adapters charge at the same rate (10W to begin with tapering off to 7W above 50% charge).
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Ahh ok, I will have to check out a few seneo pads.
If your using fast charging AKA Adaptive charging it shouldn't matter either way. The Fast charging port on the phone, and the wireless charging should go through the phone and the phone should automatically stop all charging going to the battery. This is the reason why if you were to leave your fast charger on all night whether it be Wireless or wired, you can pick your phone up at 99% or 98% instead of 100%. The phone stopped charging, then when it drops to a certain % it starts to charge up again.
As far as which is actually best for strain, it shouldnt matter because afaik to the battery its the all the same. Wireless charging just has some coils almost that send the charge wirelessly, but it still goes to the same place.
This is what I have read from google, so I am no expert on the subject, but it seemed pretty legit, and makes sense to me, a person with a Tech background. If anyone knows better please be my guest.
I'm going with wireless charging pads at home but a magnetic cable for in the car.
Not found a good car holder that has the wireless pad built in so I will stick with my ibolt for a bit longer
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There is no correct answer to this question. Battery life is function of many things -
1. Every battery has specified charge cycle. One full charge from min to max is 1 cycle. Two full charge from mid to max is also 1 cycle. So the more you use your device, charge cycles will come to an end more quickly. For example if you use two similar spec phones; first one you use heavily requiring full cycle charge everyday vs second which you use less and requires full charge every alternate day (or to phrase in other way, first is almost completely discharged by evening, second is half discharged). So the theory goes that second phone battery will last double the time than first.
2. Every battery articles you read, you will find recommendation to charge battery in specified current or usually slow charging. Today's battery technology should be immune to this but I still turn fast charging off. It is likely that not all the batteries are immune.
3. Heat is bad for battery. Some wireless chargers heat up. The TYLT VU that I use get uncomfortably warm when I place phone vertically (possibly coils do not align and multiple of them gets activated). Heat build up is there during fast charging too. If you play CPU intensive games and charge at the same time, phone gets warm. All this heat is working negative to the life span of battery.
4. Lithium ion batteries have less chemical stress when they are not fully charged or fully discharged. If you research you will find articles telling one to keep battery between 40% to 90%. Hence I usually do not charge to 100% and if I do, I watch or play games to bring battery level down. Search for best charge level to store lithium ion batteries, I think it is from 45% to 50%. This I guess keeps batteries at the least chemical stress state. So do your maths if you are type who likes to keep battery at 100% charge at all the times.
As you can see there is no straight answer to this question. Battery life is function of all these factors.
Added: I didn't read full article but you can check this link which speaks about impact of heat and leaving battery to full charge state.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Thanks for everyones input on this!
By the way, not sure if it has been mentioned, but this is a pretty cool read:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ill-degrade-less-quickly-than-the-galaxy-s7s/
So looks like the S8 won't deteriorate as much over time!
I got the OEM samsung convertible fast charging pad but it doesn't come with a wall plug as I read somewhere (I guess thats just us in the UK getting screwed over yet again). The manual says "Use only Samsung-approved chargers that support fast charging (9v/1.67A, 9v/2A, 12v/2.1A).". So I need a wall plug that will be able to provide the fastest charging speeds from it (which I am guessing is one that does 12v/2.1A??). I dont think all the standard plugs with 2.4a sockets are going to do it right? The "30w" RAVpower one that craigdamey linked says it can do 12v/2A but only for QC3.0 (which I obviously wont get since its just being plugged straight into the charging pad), otherwise its 5v/2.4a. Not sure what one to get now. Theres an Anker 24w one but that says 2.4a per port (I know little about electrics and how these things work!).

Qi Charging Receiver + Pad

Hey.
Anyone using a qi receiver on mi mix 2?
Good experience with it?
The receivers i installed, all sucks a lot.
No full charging, no charging overall.
i dont know if u can use on this device wireless charger, bicoz dont have hardware module implemented. Xiaomi mi mix 2s have that
He's asking about receivers, not charging stations.
Android2003 said:
Hey.
Anyone using a qi receiver on mi mix 2?
Good experience with it?
The receivers i installed, all sucks a lot.
No full charging, no charging overall.
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Could you tell us which ones you bought so as to avoid making the same purchases
Hey.
The Nillkin receiver Short Version seems to be good.
260mah minimal an 910mah maximal.
And loading full
While I like the idea of wireless charging I don't see the appeal in it when you need to charge at [email protected]
That will take so damn long that I'd just get frustrated and plug it into my QC3 charger.
Or are there any wireless chargers out there that perform better than this?
MrColdbird said:
While I like the idea of wireless charging I don't see the appeal in it when you need to charge at [email protected]
That will take so damn long that I'd just get frustrated and plug it into my QC3 charger.
Or are there any wireless chargers out there that perform better than this?
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I use a Choetech Fast Wireless charger Stand. Its loading very good. First i used a pad with two coils, witch is loading my Galaxy s3 good. But it cannot charge the Lepro 3 and mi mix 2 fast.
The Choetech is good and i can recommend it.
In combination with a qc 3.0 loader.
I dont use this wireless function to load 0 - 100% in 2h.
I agree with u, its loading slow.
But i hate it always plug in and plug out.
I use a thick leather flip cover, it eats always min. 200mah.
With silicone backcover the charging is over 1A
Any benefits to wireless charging? Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you have to leave it on the wireless pad for it to keep charging? Where with a cable I could just plug it in and keep using the phone?
spongeboov said:
Any benefits to wireless charging? Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you have to leave it on the wireless pad for it to keep charging? Where with a cable I could just plug it in and keep using the phone?
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You sir, are correct. It's a gimmick for lazy people who will have to wait 4x the length just because they can't be bothered plugging a cable in.
Edit: Maybe one day it's worth it but right now, it's not
Adding a wireless charging adaptor to a non wireless charging phone...
Pro, it's cool for a while, but the idea and practicality quickly wears off.
Con, if you need to flash a lot of different roms, or transfer files quickly, you will need to remove the wireless adaptor type c plug, and if you are like most on the Mi mix forums, you will eventually break it. It's the inevitable fragility of the wireless adaptor, it will break.
Con, it charges much, much slower than qualcomm 3.0
Pro, it charges slowly, which is better in the long term for battery longevity.
Con, every time you take it off and on from the wireless pad (especially at night, if you leave it on your dresser close to you) it makes a loud beep.
Pro, you can cause much less damage to your Type C port (less so, on the newer type universally pluggable type c ports) by the constant plug, unplugging, by using wireless charging.
Con, it is ugly, and stick out like a bad tattoo on the back of your phone if you are using a clear case.
Con, you cannot have wireless charging pad, if you like to use a magnetic car holder. The metal plate on the back of the case, will cause immense heat if you place your metal pad + phone case + onto the wireless charging pad. And, it won't work.
Con, if your late and you need a seriously quick charge, the wireless charging won't be able to help you out in a jam / urgency.
Con, if you are requiring a charge, most places simply do not have (friends, neighbour, client, airport, office etc) wireless charging available.
Con, Nilken has a cool setup, to give you the best of both worlds in terms of being able to use magnetic car holder and wireless charging pad capability, but it doesn't solve the blocked port access or ease of availability.
So, in the end, I went down that route once, but never went back to it.
I did have a smartphone that was wirelessly chargeable, but even though the micro USB port was free, I was still annoyed by the slow charge rates, and the beeping on and off of the home base charger (or, if it didn't beep, it was the charging flash led that annoyed me).
Cheers,
LormaD
LormaD said:
Adding a wireless charging adaptor to a non wireless charging phone...
Pro, it's cool for a while, but the idea and practicality quickly wears off.
Con, if you need to flash a lot of different roms, or transfer files quickly, you will need to remove the wireless adaptor type c plug, and if you are like most on the Mi mix forums, you will eventually break it. It's the inevitable fragility of the wireless adaptor, it will break.
Con, it charges much, much slower than qualcomm 3.0
Pro, it charges slowly, which is better in the long term for battery longevity.
Con, every time you take it off and on from the wireless pad (especially at night, if you leave it on your dresser close to you) it makes a loud beep.
Pro, you can cause much less damage to your Type C port (less so, on the newer type universally pluggable type c ports) by the constant plug, unplugging, by using wireless charging.
Con, it is ugly, and stick out like a bad tattoo on the back of your phone if you are using a clear case.
Con, you cannot have wireless charging pad, if you like to use a magnetic car holder. The metal plate on the back of the case, will cause immense heat if you place your metal pad + phone case + onto the wireless charging pad. And, it won't work.
Con, if your late and you need a seriously quick charge, the wireless charging won't be able to help you out in a jam / urgency.
Con, if you are requiring a charge, most places simply do not have (friends, neighbour, client, airport, office etc) wireless charging available.
Con, Nilken has a cool setup, to give you the best of both worlds in terms of being able to use magnetic car holder and wireless charging pad capability, but it doesn't solve the blocked port access or ease of availability.
So, in the end, I went down that route once, but never went back to it.
I did have a smartphone that was wirelessly chargeable, but even though the micro USB port was free, I was still annoyed by the slow charge rates, and the beeping on and off of the home base charger (or, if it didn't beep, it was the charging flash led that annoyed me).
Cheers,
LormaD
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Not wearing out your Type C port is a big Pro - I had people not believing me that the purchased phone is used. - If you use cases and screen protectors before you even touch your phone with bare hands...

wireless charging question

I have long ignored wireless charging, because it's so much slower than wired fast-charging. I keep seeing mentions of the Note wireless charging capability, but I'm still unclear on whether wireless is now as fast? Doubt it, but am I wrong? Would especially love a fast wireless charging solution in the car, that was as fast as the fasted wired option. Does that exist yet? Or do I need to check again in 2-3 years?
Wireless charging is not as fast. Note9 also uses adaptive fast charging 2.0. Fast but not as fast as other standards. I would concern myself about fast charging only when needed. I use wireless charging exclusively at night to slow charge my battery. I think Samsung chose adaptive 2.0 to help with longevity of phone because fast charging does not help with longevity of battery. I am still pressuring companies to unseal the batteries. The environment is more important than being able to take a shower with your phone or not having to worry about dropping it in the toilet because you can't wait five minutes.
The appeal of wireless charging is so you didn't have to reach for a power cord to plug in your phone every time you wanted to charge it. I just upgraded to the Note 9 from my Note 4. When I had a new battery in it, wireless charging only took about 20 minutes longer than the cord. As the battery got older, it did seem to take longer with the wireless charging. For me, if I'm just at home, I use wireless charging. If I'm about to go out in the next 30 minutes for a while and the battery power is kinda low, I plug it in to get a fast full charge. Plugging in the phone all the time is a drag. You are missing out on a cool feature while wasting years waiting for something better. I keep a separate power cord next to my wireless charger. That way I can decide if I just want the phone to get charged using wireless, or if I need a fast quick charge with the cord. You aren't just stuck with wireless charging just because you bought one. A flat wireless charger is just $15 on Amazon. It works just as well as the $60 Duo charger from Samsung, although it does offer fast charging. Not worth that kind of money though. Plus it is big and takes up too much space.
wbarnes4393 said:
I have long ignored wireless charging, because it's so much slower than wired fast-charging. I keep seeing mentions of the Note wireless charging capability, but I'm still unclear on whether wireless is now as fast? Doubt it, but am I wrong? Would especially love a fast wireless charging solution in the car, that was as fast as the fasted wired option. Does that exist yet? Or do I need to check again in 2-3 years?
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The duo dock is 12W charging. The wired charging is 15W. As for in the car fast wireless docks. I have yet to see one.
Tidbits said:
The duo dock is 12W charging. The wired charging is 15W. As for in the car fast wireless docks. I have yet to see one.
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I have one. Works well. Got it from Indiegogo, backed a project called the MAGQI X: The Smartest Wireless Car Charger Mount...
It charges faily well but I did find on my Note 8 it was only just holding power as I used GPS...Mind you, that could be caused by the case I had it in, my Note 9 seems to pick up the power pretty quick...
So, can the Note 9 handle the 12W wireless charge or is it limited to 10W? I see the comment above regarding the Duo Dock, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it supports it and I have not been able to find the exact spec on the matter elsewhere to confirm one way or another.

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