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Ok, first a little background on this issue...
After having my S3 for about 13-14 months I started having charging issues. The charging port was very "loose" and I had to make sure my charger cable was in just right to get my phone to charge. This was annoying, however was out of warranty and didn't want to pay vzw for an insurance claim. This got worse, and eventually I noticed my phone would only charge with 1 specific usb cable, 1 specific wall charger, and 1 specific car charger.
Well, I finally called Samsung and explained the situation to them and they had me chip my phone to them and they would repair it, free of charge. When they had it, they replaced the charging port, the headphone jack, and the screen. I received the phone back after couple weeks, super excited, and immediately charged it up with the cable I had next to my bed. New charging port felt perfect, nice snug fit, etc... Well, after a few days i hooked it up with the original usb cable that came with the phone, nothing happened. So i started messing around and realized that the only usb cables that will charge my phone are Motorola brand cables! At least the 2 cables I have work, and not a single other cable I've tried works! This includes stock Samsung cable, many cheap 3rd party cables, other friend's S3 cables, none work. Also, I have this cheap car charger that is the type you plug a USB cable into that works, however any other car charger I've tried does not work either.
Also, when i say the cables won't charge my phone, it also won't connect the phone to a PC. They do absolutely nothing.
Does anyone have ANY idea why this is happening?!?! It was an issue before Samsung repaired my phone, they replaced the charging port, but I still have this issue!! I can send it back to Samsung for them to look at it again, however my backup phone, a Razr Maxx, just died also. Seems like the battery went dead and now I can't get it to charge, but that's another issue.
So, any ideas?!
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Ok, first a little background on this issue...
After having my S3 for about 13-14 months I started having charging issues. The charging port was very "loose" and I had to make sure my charger cable was in just right to get my phone to charge. This was annoying, however was out of warranty and didn't want to pay vzw for an insurance claim. This got worse, and eventually I noticed my phone would only charge with 1 specific usb cable, 1 specific wall charger, and 1 specific car charger.
Well, I finally called Samsung and explained the situation to them and they had me chip my phone to them and they would repair it, free of charge. When they had it, they replaced the charging port, the headphone jack, and the screen. I received the phone back after couple weeks, super excited, and immediately charged it up with the cable I had next to my bed. New charging port felt perfect, nice snug fit, etc... Well, after a few days i hooked it up with the original usb cable that came with the phone, nothing happened. So i started messing around and realized that the only usb cables that will charge my phone are Motorola brand cables! At least the 2 cables I have work, and not a single other cable I've tried works! This includes stock Samsung cable, many cheap 3rd party cables, other friend's S3 cables, none work. Also, I have this cheap car charger that is the type you plug a USB cable into that works, however any other car charger I've tried does not work either.
Also, when i say the cables won't charge my phone, it also won't connect the phone to a PC. They do absolutely nothing.
Does anyone have ANY idea why this is happening?!?! It was an issue before Samsung repaired my phone, they replaced the charging port, but I still have this issue!! I can send it back to Samsung for them to look at it again, however my backup phone, a Razr Maxx, just died also. Seems like the battery went dead and now I can't get it to charge, but that's another issue.
So, any ideas?!
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What rom/kernal
It doesn't matter. It does this when it is totally stock and rooted. Right now I'm not rooted or anything because it looks like it may be going back to Samsung again.
JHibinger said:
It doesn't matter. It does this when it is totally stock and rooted. Right now I'm not rooted or anything because it looks like it may be going back to Samsung again.
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I think the smart charging circuit may be messed up
Really? How would that cause the phone to not work with any cable except a certain brand?? I'm just really curious and this is driving me insane!!
JHibinger said:
Really? How would that cause the phone to not work with any cable except a certain brand?? I'm just really curious and this is driving me insane!!
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I would say you are putting mechanical stress on the charging port. This could be from some misaligned or mis-made cable or somehow pressing or pulling the charge cable when its connected. I've never seen this reported by anyone else, but the mechanical connections are not indestructible. If it were a common symptom with 100 million S3s having been sold, there would be a firestorm of complaints.
I have a similar issue. I'm not sure if it's the device or the ROM (CM nightlies).
Certain cables force the screen to turn back on, which means I get negative charge because the screen burns more than the charger is capable of supplying. Other cables are fine. I'm still looking for the pattern, it's super annoying and causes me to have to turn my phone off completely at times so as not to lose my battery altogether. I'm still trying to solve this, any help would be appreciated.
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I have a similar issue. I'm not sure if it's the device or the ROM (CM nightlies).
Certain cables force the screen to turn back on, which means I get negative charge because the screen burns more than the charger is capable of supplying. Other cables are fine. I'm still looking for the pattern, it's super annoying and causes me to have to turn my phone off completely at times so as not to lose my battery altogether. I'm still trying to solve this, any help would be appreciated.
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Further info- it's not the cable, it's the converter at the end. I think it has to do with amperage of the charger- if I use the stock samsung one I'm good, it's putting out 1.0A. If I use others that are fewer amps (like 700 mA) it's unpredictable. I suspect a kernel thing, I might download different kernels to play with it.
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Further info- it's not the cable, it's the converter at the end. I think it has to do with amperage of the charger- if I use the stock samsung one I'm good, it's putting out 1.0A. If I use others that are fewer amps (like 700 mA) it's unpredictable. I suspect a kernel thing, I might download different kernels to play with it.
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Always use chargers that is 1 A - 2A the circuit controls most of the charging regulating amps and voltage
Yes, I agree about using good chargers, but my phone wasn't always this way. It used to charge with anything, but no longer.
I enabled fast charge on Imosyen's lean kernel. That might have made a difference, but I'm not positive yet.
So I bought a cheap cable from eBay that converts microusb to the proprietary Galaxy connector on this device. Tried to charge the device but it entered a bootloop. Unplugged the cable and tried charging with the stock cable and left it overnight. Woke up and the device was completely dead.
Wouldn't boot at all.
Tore it open, unplugged the battery and plugged it back in. It booted! BUT the battery was critical and it shut off immediately. Tried charging again, no dice.
So I unplugged the battery and applied 4v to get some charge into it. Got the battery up to about 3.6V, booted again and it showed 3%. So in the time I had with the device turned on I tried both cables again but neither would charge the device. I used a multimeter to test the stock cable and it was all good, I even did a beep test between the 4 USB pins in the stock cable and the places they're wired up to inside the note and everything was fine so it's most likely not the cable.
Anyway the 3% is long gone now and I can't boot or charge. The device and battery are fine and definitely working, it just won't charge through USB no matter what. I've tried different power points, different adapters including stock and normal usb ports.
I've also cleaned both the plug and the jack with a toothbrush.
Could it be that the internal charging circuitry got fried when I tried the dodgy cable? If so, is there any way to fix/bypass this?
I'm at a complete loss so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Nas.
I would not recommend to charge battery directly outside the device or even remove the battery at all.
First you gotta make sure your cables are capable of charge other galaxy devices if a friend has Tab 7 or Tab 10.1 or other note 10.1 or another try your cables to see if they really work.
Because it may just be your cable, remember batteries have their own circuits boards of sort and batteries are sometimes picky on how they are charge especially OEM batteries that are not suppose to ever be out of the device unless are change for a new one in a repair.
So first of all cable check it a must, again is not as simple as check if all the pins works as this is not a simple USB (Universal Serial Bus) port is a proprietary port and cable, check the port in the tablet too.
As well it may be just a defective battery or worst case even a board problem.
Unfortunately I have no other device to test it with. I might just buy another cable and see how I go.
I know about the circuits on the battery, but I always thought they were just there as a safety measure due to the potentially volatile nature of Li-Ion when it drops below a certain voltage. I'll probably take your advice and stay away from charging it externally, I only did it once to see if the tab died or it was just a dead battery. The voltage never dropped low enough to trigger the circuit to 'kill' it, evidenced by the fact that I could get it back up to 3% just applying a constant voltage.
I'm guessing you've hit it on the head with the last sentence, might be a board problem which would be quite sad. Silly reason for a great device to die.
Thanks a lot for the reply, I'll update this thread once I try an alternative cable for future reference.
Ok, So to update:
I've bought and tested 3 separate cables, all provide 4.99V inside the device, but none of this makes it to the battery so I'm fairly certain it's the charging IC that's dead.
I bought a new battery that was charged to 40% so I was able to flash the device to see if it was maybe the custom kernel messing something up. Flashed to stock via Odin, still not charging.
From what I've read, I need a cell balancing circuit (since the battery is 2-cell Li-Ion) and a charging IC. I've found a suitable IC for fairly cheap, but I'm not sure if the balancing circuit is necessary. The battery already has one of these inside, but I'm not sure if this is just for Voltage/Current protection or if it also balances.
MP24AG: http://eng.it-m.co.kr/cnt/prod/tep_5l/MP24AG.pdf
If anyone knows I'd be very grateful.
My nexus 5 went to 0% battery one night and died. I tried charging it with 4 different chargers, some with usb some outlet and a wireless charger to no avail. I then purchased 2 new batteries and the phone was able to turn on with the replacement ones. However they would not charge. On the battery status screen it would go from saying Charging (on AC or USB depending on how i was trying to charge it) for 5~ seconds to saying Not Charging. The charging icon was still on the little toolbar battery icon but it would not charge. So those two new batteries are dead :good:. So I thought maybe software issue, I had enough juice to get in the bootloader and flash back to 4.4.4 which would still not allow it to charge. Then I started flashing to other versions and eventually back to 5.1.1 to no avail. I replaced the charging port with one from my brothers nexus 5 and it still would not work. My battery and charging port worked in his phone however.
Now I don't know what to do! This is the first phone I've really had to research about bootloaders and roms and stuff so I'm fresh.
TL;DR: Phone goes from charging for 5 sec to not charge with different software versions (4.4.4, 5.1.1 +more), with many different chargers (including one that came with phone), with new battery and new charging port.
Thanks.
Mine did that with a new battery also. The new battery was a dud--I contacted the seller, who sent me another battery, and that one does charge.
Telyx said:
Mine did that with a new battery also. The new battery was a dud--I contacted the seller, who sent me another battery, and that one does charge.
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I've tried 3 different batteries including my brothers nexus 5 battery which charges in his phone so I am confident its not a battery issue now.
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if the actual USB port is working on ur brother's and so is the battery, i am afraid then u have a bad Motherboard...
theres a Texas Instruments BQ24192 I2C controller chip, that is what regulates charging, such as voltage, etc...
if it doesnt even respond to wireless charging, that may be bad https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016#s53734
that would be my guess....
Well technically it responds to it but it only lasts for a few seconds. Wireless charging and wired charging get a response from the phone by changing it to say charging on ac or usb or whatever but it just goes back to saying not charging after ~5 seconds. Is this still a bad mother board you think? Is it worth it to try and purchase a motherboard or just get a new phone?
Any solution for this? Came later but did come to this problem.
Alright, so here is a fun issue to deal with. My notepro has always been a little slow to charge, but most of them are. However, its gotten very bad.
I have had issues with screen flicker and a little heat issues and some other small things off an on. So, fed up with it, a few days ago I rooted the tablet. It worked fine. Then I tried to install a new kernel and rom that was getting good reviews. However, when i did this, I couldnt get past the boot screen. Several reinstalls of stock and customer kernels later, my tablet started flashing and eventually died. When it was plugged in, it would show the battery icon with a circle in the middle but then die. Several tries to fix only seemed to solidify the tablet's fate.
However, yesterday I gave it another shot. I assumes the tablet had heated up and made the solder loose, so after a while it was solid again. It started charging, and after reinstalling stock rooted rom and stock kernel repeatedly, it was working again. I then installed the rom and kernel I was trying to before (I had to have a custome kernel to be able to control voltage for the screen flickering issue).
Now it is actually working. All functions are working, and oddly enough I am not seeing any screen flickering.
Only one real problem remains. Battery charging. The battery is charging so slowly that when the tablet is turned on, it doesnt charge at all, it creates a stalemate between charging and draining. It also drains pretty quick. The power drops about 5% in about 5-10 minutes of full screen brightness use (I was testing it this way to try and see if it would flicker again.
Its been charging for about an hour now, and only gone up 5%.
I have tried a couple cords and different bricks, but to no avail.
There are some thoughts, I am wondering if the tablet is only drawing power as if charging from usb, so only around 0.5a instead of 2.4a or so . I am also wondering if there is still a hardware issue.
I do not think it is the rom or the kernel, as this issue was happening as well after I got the tablet working again on stock but before I tried isntalling the rom/kernel again.
Any suggestions? I would be very appreciative.
I had simular problem with very slow charging, reboots and bluescreen. I opend my note to check battery plugg for broken soldering, but I found no problem with it. But to check turely i unplugged battery from main bord and replugged it again. After that I had no problem at all, now its charging normal, no reboots.. stil working perfect after averyday use for about 8 mounts......
If you are using usb cord not usb3 cord it will charge very little when using tablet . Mine will charge when off and below 25% to full in 7 or 8 hrs overnight.
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Could be a bad charging port dock/flex cable. These are actually pretty easy to replace and can be found on Amazon. I had to replace one on mine. Try searching for a usb charging port dock flex cable for samsung galaxy note pro. That will cause the issues you are seeing. However the screen flickering sounds like a voltage issue caused by a cracked solder pin from the battery connection to the board. Which is very common on these and hard to see without an electronics magnafication glass. You could try taking the back off and pressing the battery connection firmly while plugging in your tablet and powering it one to see what happens. Either way sounds like a hardware issue.
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I had simular problem with very slow charging, reboots and bluescreen. I opend my note to check battery plugg for broken soldering, but I found no problem with it. But to check turely i unplugged battery from main bord and replugged it again. After that I had no problem at all, now its charging normal, no reboots.. stil working perfect after averyday use for about 8 mounts......
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Ok Guys, had the same problem with my 12.2 samsung tab pro, changed usb chargers, cables etc.
Found that the connector on the tablet itself (female) did not made good contack with the male usb.
So i simply , very careful, with a pair o pliers closed both tips on the usb conector, so the cable enters more tight. And voila, the usb amp meter i had showed a rate of charge from .33 amp , jumped to 1.73 witch is more than enough to charge and use tablet at the same time.
You need to do this at the end of the cable that plugs on the tablet, that is kind of double, maybe a e.0 usb or something like that. Make sure to close both tips. You want a tight connection
Hi, I am a novice in phone repairs though I have successfuly replaced the screen and charging ports on a samsung s6 and note 4.
I am requiring some expert advice on this problem, I was given an XZ from my friend with a cracked screen and charging problem, the charging port became temperamental and failing (at least I think it was that) and eventually wouldn't charge at all. The charging port was handled a bit harshly toward the end, for example the charging cable lifted up and down to try to get a charging response.
Anyway I ordered a screen/digitizer and charging port flex for it, and fitted them, following a guide. Before this, the phone had around 2% charge. After the repair, I switched it back on and conncted the charger, the screen was fine, however there was no response from the charger. The phone then ran flat and eventually ran flat enough to not be able to show the "low charge" symbol when the phone is off. Then after plugging and unplugging the cable (via USB in the pc) it would charge for what seemed a second then stop, the red charging notification light was lighting up. The same happened with a wall charger. I then stripped it back down and back together again. This time there was no response if I remember right, then I connected it to the wall charger and left it for 3 hours or so. I went back to it and it had charged up to 15%.
Now i'm at the point where the phone is working, it's on 90% now, but it charges very slowly, around 60-350 mA per hour on Ampere app. So a full charge is around 12+ hours. This is in the wall socket with a fast charger. Additionally, it takes 10 seconds for the phone to recognise the charger after is is plugged in and that is consistent each time I plug it in. The phone now isn't recognised by my PC via USB, and also won't charge that way also, it just doesn't do anything if I plug it in there. Other than that, the phone works and it holds its charge well.
Any ideas? Thank you.
2 Pics of battery app:
imgur.com/a/YnNtp
pick up an original sony charging cable - no idea why it makes such a difference, but.........
Hi, thanks for the reply, I bought a sony charger but it's still the same, drawing about 50-300 milliamps from wall charger, not recognised by PC and takes 10 secs exactly for the phone to recognise it's being charged. It's just odd how it stopped charging before the "fix", now the new flex lets it charge slowly. Can a battery problem cause this? It still holds its charge well. Maybe this problem is recognisable by some phone repair experts around here? any ideas?
Thanks
Noticed the phone only draws charge from a 3amp charger, anything less isn't recognized. And the power drawn from a 3amp can be 30-1000ma but averages around 300 ma. Can anybody point me to a hardware forum maybe? I can't find any, i guess it need taking to a phone expert but it's gonna end up costing more than its worth with the stuff i have done already.
Aukey Quickcharge 3.0 is working fine. It is cheap too.
I have just purchased a aukey charger, but my XZ seems to be taking longer to charge than the UH20 charger that came with my XZ. Any suggestions guys?
dibdin said:
I have just purchased a aukey charger, but my XZ seems to be taking longer to charge than the UH20 charger that came with my XZ. Any suggestions guys?
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Have you tried cleaning/replacing the charging port itself? As i see, you replaced only the flex cable.
There's probably extremely weak contact somewhere in the charging hardware i think, because you need 3.0 A charger to get any kind of charging response. Weaker current probably gets lost at that 'weak contact'.
Buying new chargers won't fix that if you ask me
I have exactly same problem with you
I am about to buy a new charger, yet I saw your post
At first I thought it was the cable. Then my cable work normal with other phone. So does my charger, it connect perfectly with other phone (xperia xz premium and xiaomi mi5)
It seems that our phoneis the only one who can'y charge normally.
I am quite depressed, also looking for solution. Mind if you share if you have succedeed? Thanks before
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Try plug in and plug out. My phone sometimes charge a normaxl. But need a lot of effort
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Use the the detect usb in the notification keys before connecting the charger,, this will solve the fast recharging issues
Did you solved problem? I have same issue. Changed battery, usb-flex, no luck
Hi,
I have bought an used XZ.
The owner sold me this phone because he need new battery. I have replaced the old one after a week of test. The old battery works only for 6/10h and drain totally during night even if the phone is turned off. The new one have the same problem. I try to solve with an other battery, and nothing same problem. 12h of standby, after is totally drained. The strange thing is that I have the same battery life even when the phone is turned off, but not only this. If the phone is in 0% he charge without problem. If we have any % of battery I need to connect and disconnect the charger from a wall plug many and many times before he start charging. Phone give me the charge icon for a second and after nothing until I disconnect the charger from a wall plug(I have tested different charger and cable). During my investigation I have found that this phone results every time a little bit hot even if turned off. I have try to disconnect all is possibile, but the heat is from CPU! Now I know that this is the cause of fast discharging in all conditions.
Now I need to know if anyone with a "normal" unit feel the phone heat while turned off and while is on wich temperature have. Mine is every time on 34/35° in standby. Let me know,
thanks
i have same problem . sony xperia xz and sony corp is very very Rubbish
Hi Guys,
I found a way to charge my Xperia XZ with the same loop problem.
Try to push upper volume pad together with power button and plug in the charging cable.
Hold the buttons for 3-5 minutes - you will feel vibrating signals like 3 short and 1 long.
so hold it and then simply leave it for a several minutes and it should start to accept the charge.
Alex Kutikhin
Yes - I had this problem...fixed it by holding in POWER UP and OFF button for 120 seconds.
Do not let go...you will feel vibration (1 short, 3 short). Keep holding for 120 seconds.
Device should now be powered down. Plug in charger cable and leave device off until 100% charged.
Still no fix for the original post’s problem? Having the exact issue with my xzs right now.
lstic said:
Have you tried cleaning/replacing the charging port itself? As i see, you replaced only the flex cable.
There's probably extremely weak contact somewhere in the charging hardware i think, because you need 3.0 A charger to get any kind of charging response. Weaker current probably gets lost at that 'weak contact'.
Buying new chargers won't fix that if you ask me
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Thanks for the hint...
Old Thread, I know, but I encountered this issue today on an Sony X compact - F5321. Fixed it and want to report back for the next guy.
Same symptoms, noticed first a slow charge, phone was drawing low current and only responding to cable after 10 seconds of plugging in. I than checked for data connection, couldn’t get any. Opened it changed the USB port - BINGO - that fixed the issue, everything working nice.
TLTR: no Solution in Software, it’s a faulty USB-port. change it.
Have a nice day.