overclocking this phone would be cool.. i think this is the start point for it
hXXp://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/qi-kernel/source/tree/jz-2.6.36/drivers/cpufreq
That's just the Linux kernel's standard CPU frequency switcher. Nothing special. Also, I'm not interested in things which might (and will, since they mean leaving the manufacturer's specs) compromise the stability of my phone, even if they would allow me to say "mine is faster than yours". But that's strictly my opinion.
There is no point on overclocking the I5800... Since its GPU sucks.
mizch said:
That's just the Linux kernel's standard CPU frequency switcher. Nothing special. Also, I'm not interested in things which might (and will, since they mean leaving the manufacturer's specs) compromise the stability of my phone, even if they would allow me to say "mine is faster than yours". But that's strictly my opinion.
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Overclocking any device requires a hell of a lot of testing depending on how mild or how intense the over frequency is. Naturally, if you set your device for a given clock speed, you need to stress test it (with software) to ensure that it is stable. When it is stable (because any device can be overclocked and be stable), you'll be sorry you hadn't even tried. Besides, overclocking doesn't void warranty. Asking the manufacturer to replace hardware because it was broken by overclocking doesn't fly though.
Gsam101 said:
There is no point on overclocking the I5800... Since its GPU sucks.
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No, there is no point in overclocking the I5800 because it cannot be overclocked. Games are not the only thing to do on a phone.
I installed setCPU and the maximum value is 666. The processor doesn't allow itself to be clocked passed its maximum frequency. Usually lower end processors don't.
Well, the default kernel won't ever. On ALL phones you need to have a custom kernel to overclock (just look at the i9000's kernels). So i think it should be possible, but well... Pointless.
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Well, the default kernel won't ever. On ALL phones you need to have a custom kernel to overclock (just look at the i9000's kernels). So i think it should be possible, but well... Pointless.
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It is completely pointless to oc the G3 as well as it is for the Galaxy S. As long as the device is running all tasks smooth, and don't say the G3 doesn't because it does on the 2.2 firmwares...
But you will neverever be able to play 3d Games on that device because the hardware just is not built for this.
Has anyone tried to mess around with the overclocking or is this not possible with stock?
ShotgunSam said:
Has anyone tried to mess around with the overclocking or is this not possible with stock?
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you can probably use tegrak overclock in the market to do so on the stock kernel...it injects a kernel module to allow for overclocking
but really you would want a custom overclocked kernel in an ideal world
also overclock is meh
no point. we havent even been too successful in flashing stock kernel. not many infuse buyers have a two infuses or bought it for dev purposes. the testing on things has been slow.
gingerbread will be better than overclocking. now overclocking gingerbread will be awesome for benchmarks but noone will feel the need to do it once they see how smooth it can run.
Does anyone know of some good apps (preferably free) that I can use to overclock a rooted droid charge, with the latest altered beast ROM and kernel?
There aren't any overclock kernels at this point. Its being worked on. Just be patient.
Fe_Man said:
Does anyone know of some good apps (preferably free) that I can use to overclock a rooted droid charge, with the latest altered beast ROM and kernel?
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You can try tegrak from the market if you really want oc.
In all honesty, just wait for a kernel to come out that will actually oc. I'd love a kernel that uses voltage control and will wait for that...
Ahh, thanks. This is my first android device so I have no idea what to expect and when
If I can ever get my config straightened out, I was going to look into doing an OC kernel that uses Voltage Control, similar to nemesis2all's kernels for the Fascinate. Still trying to get a working config though.
My opinion though is that OCing the hummingbird processor is useless, and does little for performance on a day-to-day basis and only serves to give you big numbers in benchmarks while reducing battery life.
I mostly used the 1120 step skipping 1000 and scoring serious uv was awesome
I was browsing the Optimas 2x forum today and ran into an awesome kernel with GPU overclock. which sounds pretty cool to me. also the dev mentioned something about overclocking "system bus" which improvers memory/2D/3D/etc. i think someone in this forum should take a look into this KERNEL and try letting us taste some of this goodness.
Here are the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119771
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14654927&postcount=36
while im no genius when it comes to this stuff, somehow i would suspect that people here are already looking into this.
i could be wrong tho lol
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I was browsing the Optimas 2x forum today and ran into an awesome kernel with GPU overclock. which sounds pretty cool to me. also the dev mentioned something about overclocking "system bus" which improvers memory/2D/3D/etc. i think someone in this forum should take a look into this KERNEL and try letting us taste some of this goodness.
Here are the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119771
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14654927&postcount=36
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The person to ask this to is Morfic. He's all about tweaking bus speeds to improve not only cpu but gpu performance as well. But much of what you've already requested has been incorporated
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The person to ask this to is Morfic. He's all about tweaking bus speeds to improve not only cpu but gpu performance as well. But much of what you've already requested has been incorporated
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But where is he...??
G2X
CPU overclock is something that makes sense for us right now but what would a GPU overclock get us? To me thats just something that will lower the life of our phone with no real reward until games come out that our phone can't run. Right now our phone can run pretty much all games at full speed.
gpu overclocking would be sweet... now my question would be has anyone tried to load Optimas 2x kernel/software on the g2x since they are pretty much the same hardware(in theory you would think it would work)... i might even try to load this kernel onto my phone when i get home from work so if i mess anything up ill have my gear to fix it
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gpu overclocking would be sweet... now my question would be has anyone tried to load Optimas 2x kernel/software on the g2x since they are pretty much the same hardware(in theory you would think it would work)... i might even try to load this kernel onto my phone when i get home from work so if i mess anything up ill have my gear to fix it
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Please don't try to load O2x software on your G2x.
pyckvi said:
I was browsing the Optimas 2x forum today and ran into an awesome kernel with GPU overclock. which sounds pretty cool to me. also the dev mentioned something about overclocking "system bus" which improvers memory/2D/3D/etc. i think someone in this forum should take a look into this KERNEL and try letting us taste some of this goodness.
Here are the links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119771
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14654927&postcount=36
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I remember reading a while ago that GPU/System bus overclocking was attempted by some kernel dev, then later on, the dev realized through extensive testing that GPU and system bus clocks were locked, the changes to the kernel source had no effect (hardwired). Now this was a few months ago when I was reading up on Tegra kernel development before I got my G2x. Now all these could have been obsolete, and maybe now someone has found a way to do the above via kernel source updates.
Another issue that most people don't mention here and many people have been guilty of, is the GPL issue. The guy who supposedly did this overclocking has not published his kernel source code anywhere (GPL/XDA rules issues), so no one can examine what he did and prove that it worked....
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Please don't try to load O2x software on your G2x.
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have you tried it yet though is my question
im not worried if i flash a kernel and it doesnt work i can reflash my old kernel if it doesnt work and gets stuck into a bootloop
crisis187 said:
have you tried it yet though is my question
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Someone in another thread tried this and it messed up their baseband. A restore doesn't fix it apparently.
Big rush dog, the tiamat kernel guru and Guy getting engadet headlines for oc the xoom to 1.7 ghz has gpu oc in his kernels. I will be honest though, I can't tell the difference except maybe video streaming works a little smoother. I personally don't think it is worth the devs time...
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Howdy! I'm the developer of that kernel
To be honest the GPU overclocks aren't all that beneficial. There is a little bit of a speed bump (I managed to get the highest score on nenamark2 for example). But the difference is was 27fps vs 32fps. If someone is interested in incorporating that into the g2x I'll be happy to show them the changes I've made. I haven't released the source because I'm lazy but there isn't too much to it.
Actually, if you look at the voltKernel sources for the O2X you'll see the same changes there.
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CPU overclock is something that makes sense for us right now but what would a GPU overclock get us? To me thats just something that will lower the life of our phone with no real reward until games come out that our phone can't run. Right now our phone can run pretty much all games at full speed.
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Yes, superficial benchmarks like quadrant can be pushed to 5400 only with max cpu oc.
However, did you notice how 1.2 thru 1.5 gets you the same fps with no added benefit than more heat created?
Pushing other things other than cpu should let us remove bottlenecks and not tighten them up.
If you want your G2x to life 20yrs, 1.5ghz is not the way to go.
I have no kernel ready for release, to notice changes, I stuck to 1.5ghz, but the final result will be more likely 1.2 or 1.3ghz.
Maybe with a "don't hold my hand, give me freedom or give me death" DBU version at 1.5Ghz later.
I'm not shy to increase vcore on a SoC. But unlike the Nexus S, this thing gets HOT, fast.
Avetny pointed out that thread, I'll see if fallout hit something I have missed so far.
The clocks get compared to chip defaults in many places, choosing the smaller of the two, so it's just tedious replacing them with sane defaults, unless I stick to my current approach of offsets instead of absolutes.
We'll see.
That's also the reason I don't update my kernel often. Right now commits in cm git are only preparatory, config changes that made things smoother I already used.
I'll release something if they finish their version of BLN.
Or if I'm happy with gpu/bus/ram oc/tweaks.
not going to make people flash a kernel for no reason. As jlevy can attest, kernel not following cm git, not even based on it can work very well.
Not having latest cm commit on kernels that take another approach is not always useful.
Especially if we track regressions that cm devs back out later, that's all this gains.
So yes, there will be a gpu oc, when it's ready.
Great!
@ fallout0 thank you i hope that you can help out one of our devs on this.
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Yes, superficial benchmarks like quadrant can be pushed to 5400 only with max cpu oc.
However, did you notice how 1.2 thru 1.5 gets you the same fps with no added benefit than more heat created?
Pushing other things other than cpu should let us remove bottlenecks and not tighten them up.
If you want your G2x to life 20yrs, 1.5ghz is not the way to go.
I have no kernel ready for release, to notice changes, I stuck to 1.5ghz, but the final result will be more likely 1.2 or 1.3ghz.
Maybe with a "don't hold my hand, give me freedom or give me death" DBU version at 1.5Ghz later.
I'm not shy to increase vcore on a SoC. But unlike the Nexus S, this thing gets HOT, fast.
Avetny pointed out that thread, I'll see if fallout hit something I have missed so far.
The clocks get compared to chip defaults in many places, choosing the smaller of the two, so it's just tedious replacing them with sane defaults, unless I stick to my current approach of offsets instead of absolutes.
We'll see.
That's also the reason I don't update my kernel often. Right now commits in cm git are only preparatory, config changes that made things smoother I already used.
I'll release something if they finish their version of BLN.
Or if I'm happy with gpu/bus/ram oc/tweaks.
not going to make people flash a kernel for no reason. As jlevy can attest, kernel not following cm git, not even based on it can work very well.
Not having latest cm commit on kernels that take another approach is not always useful.
Especially if we track regressions that cm devs back out later, that's all this gains.
So yes, there will be a gpu oc, when it's ready.
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thanks morfic i hope everything goes smooth with your kernel, i would love to test it out once u feel it is ready. and thanks for not rushing it.
faux123 said:
I remember reading a while ago that GPU/System bus overclocking was attempted by some kernel dev, then later on, the dev realized through extensive testing that GPU and system bus clocks were locked, the changes to the kernel source had no effect (hardwired). Now this was a few months ago when I was reading up on Tegra kernel development before I got my G2x. Now all these could have been obsolete, and maybe now someone has found a way to do the above via kernel source updates.
Another issue that most people don't mention here and many people have been guilty of, is the GPL issue. The guy who supposedly did this overclocking has not published his kernel source code anywhere (GPL/XDA rules issues), so no one can examine what he did and prove that it worked....
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You should talk to Fallout0 he seems like he got past the system bus/GPU locked issue. both of you can maybe learn something new from each other. & it would be awesome if the both of you can work on a kernel together.
Wouldn't a higher clocked G2x cause more heat? Heat being the reason this things reboots so often? Maybe a slower G2x is the way to go.
Would overclocking the gpu help run nds4droid any better? What else would ocing the gpu do? Everything seems to be very fast as it is lol
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Wouldn't a higher clocked G2x cause more heat? Heat being the reason this things reboots so often? Maybe a slower G2x is the way to go.
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Pushing cpu more I don't see useful other than keep up with your buddy's Nexus S' quadrant scores and make sure your hands stay warm in a cold Chicago winter.
I build kernels usually when things stutter or otherwise annoy me. The pushing the OC usually comes by request of those who just want more more more.
I do like to remove bottle necks.
The hardwired clocks. Well the.cpu ones are hardwired too.
The gpu/bus oc works, until boost and throttling kick in, where again values are compared to hardwired values. using offsets after the comparison would be the way around without killing boosting and throttling.
Guess main thing that stopped me is the heat at 1.5ghz, and the frowns over 1.2ghz and 1.3ghz kernels, without further "what else is in there"
Still hoping fallout can share what he/she has, it'll help making this a reality, sooner.
It's tedious. Most of all.
sorry for the noob question, since i can't post on the development thread yet, so i figure i'll try look for the answer here
i've installed the CM7 for fit and also the OC kernel along with it. my question is, what is a UV/GPU module for and how to use it? i've seen my friend's device also with CM7 (not galaxy fit) and there's an extra option in his cyanogenmod settings for UV. it says that it can save battery but make unstable performance. well CM7 in galaxy fit is currently still very battery consuming, i think i need this.
i've tried to install Myrt UnderVolt GUI but it says "unsupported kernel. cannot find undervolt table. click ok to exit". but i'm sure i've installed the kernel supporting UV and GPU module from here.
any suggestion? thx before
bufosp said:
sorry for the noob question, since i can't post on the development thread yet, so i figure i'll try look for the answer here
i've installed the CM7 for fit and also the OC kernel along with it. my question is, what is a UV/GPU module for and how to use it? i've seen my friend's device also with CM7 (not galaxy fit) and there's an extra option in his cyanogenmod settings for UV. it says that it can save battery but make unstable performance. well CM7 in galaxy fit is currently still very battery consuming, i think i need this.
i've tried to install Myrt UnderVolt GUI but it says "unsupported kernel. cannot find undervolt table. click ok to exit". but i'm sure i've installed the kernel supporting UV and GPU module from here.
any suggestion? thx before
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UV means under volt module and GPU means graphics processing unit the Kernel is modified to deliver extra performance and Overclock the stock frequency to 801(Till now) About battery and all I don't know if this saves battery(Since you are running your processor at higher speed then recommended)You're likely to finish your juice much faster
If you want to save battery than adjust the frequency to lower values an governor to power save or on demand Though I suggest you dont use the in built system settings to do so Use No-Frills