Hello,
My dad bought himself a Mate 9 Pro in China and brought it back home today. I've installed the GMS from the HiApp app store and downloaded the Google Play store from there as well.
When I try to download apps from the Play store, the apps won't download. It continues to say "downloading" but no progress is being made.
I am downloading apks in the interim, but would be much more convenient if I could take advantage of the Play Store.
Am i doing something wrong? The build number is b156, if I'm reading it correctly.
I've tried:
- Deleting cache and data from Google Play Store
- Reinstalling GMS
- Allowing unknown sources for app downloads (i.e. from places other than HiApp) and app installations.
- Granting all permissions to Play Store and Play Services
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
PekingGoose said:
Hello,
My dad bought himself a Mate 9 Pro in China and brought it back home today. I've installed the GMS from the HiApp app store and downloaded the Google Play store from there as well.
When I try to download apps from the Play store, the apps won't download. It continues to say "downloading" but no progress is being made.
I am downloading apks in the interim, but would be much more convenient if I could take advantage of the Play Store.
Am i doing something wrong? The build number is b156, if I'm reading it correctly.
I've tried:
- Deleting cache and data from Google Play Store
- Reinstalling GMS
- Allowing unknown sources for app downloads (i.e. from places other than HiApp) and app installations.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Check the permissions in the app settings, make sure Play store has access to internal storage. I just allowed all permissions for the play store and any google related services.
Do not try anything else. I have tried all kinds of solutions including the ones you listed above. Just be patient and wait for system update to solve the problem and download some 3rd party store like apkpure as a temporary solution
azukayx said:
Check the permissions in the app settings, make sure Play store has access to internal storage. I just allowed all permissions for the play store and any google related services.
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I forgot to mention that, but yes, I did grant all permissions to play store and Google Play services, but I'm still having issues. Thanks for the response !
azukayx said:
Check the permissions in the app settings, make sure Play store has access to internal storage. I just allowed all permissions for the play store and any google related services.
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ba703863 said:
Do not try anything else. I have tried all kinds of solutions including the ones you listed above. Just be patient and wait for system update to solve the problem and download some 3rd party store like apkpure as a temporary solution
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Yeah, I may just do that for now. My dad doesn't use that many apps anyway so I can probably just download the rest of the apks he needs and install them manually as well. Thanks!
Any way to disable "you must have Google play services to run (name of app that doesn
Title cut off, rest should say "doesn't require Google play services to run"
I only use the play store basically, and have no issues with manually enabling before checking for app updates or to download new apps (on my newer device, my older device doesn't even require them for the play store at all)
But things like ccleaner, my emoji keyboard, a few other apps I can't think, of annoyingly claim to need these services to run... While I'm actively running them and using them just fine without.
On a device without the option "disable notifications for this app"either within the app itself, or within my older 4.0.4 device that runs just fine despite it being older... How can I get rid of these annoyances?
Play services are a huge battery and ram hog which I keep disabled unless needed. So any "just install play services" comments isn't exactly what I'm looking for...
I've looked around in disable service (the app) for these apps, unable to find anything looking relevant.
Any help would be appreciated
Play Services are often used for authentication reasons. Meaning the apps look if you have a genuine version. For freemium apps they check for any in app purchases you might have done.
Other common cases are for push notifications or location services etc. These are often only minor or optional features of apps. That's why they usually work nonetheless without having Play Services active.
The only easy option is to use an alternative app store like the Amazon App Store or F-Droid. All the apps over there are pretty much guaranteed to work without Play Services.
There are also some projects out there that aim for a system without Play Services. A quick search should yield quite some results.
If you are rooted and capable of using XPosed, then there is a module in the repo somewhere that does exactly what you are looking for - hiding the pop up.
Can't remember the name right now and don't know if it is still maintained, but searching the modules should provide it to you.
However, Google Play Service shouldn't be so much of a power drainer any more. Beginning with Android 6 / M the battery optimizations are quite enormous, even though the Play Services are excluded from the system wide optimization (because they take care of these optimizations). To further improve the footprint, you could disable the location services and wireless scanning services.
I have a weird need. I want google play services but no access to the play store. I discovered thorught that the play services "require" the google play store to be installed for the play services to work. So I wanted to know if their is some sort of fake play store apk that I can install that will allow the play services to work without the play store?
Any other ideas would be appreciated.
I am on a moto e4 qualcomm stock rooted. And I dont have a way to enable signature spoofing since its odexed.
I need the same. Google play services and full functionality with Gmail, Maps etc, without PlayStore. Any ideas?
I found something called "FakeStore", which simulates the existence of Play Store, however I have installed it in replacement of PlayStore, but applications such as Gmail and Notes still do not work, just as if PlayStore did not exist.
I'm still investigating.
More.
The FakeStore needs a patch called "FAKE_PACKAGE_SIGNATURE" to work.
This is the link of that patch, but I can not find a way to implement it, if someone can shed some light it would be appreciated.
feanor_twh said:
More.
The FakeStore needs a patch called "FAKE_PACKAGE_SIGNATURE" to work.
This is the link of that patch, but I can not find a way to implement it, if someone can shed some light it would be appreciated.
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Use fake store from MicroG download site.
You can use Aurora Store if you want access to playstore packages without using "Don't be evil".
Need some fake store spoofer to let apps think there is a playstore install for some of thoughs dependent apps that rely so much on daddy. So we can just get on with it.
I have Samsung galaxy a50 ( a505f). I disable or removed all possible google products. I only use google play services and google play store. I do not use any google product. No gmail,youtube calender or sync android. If i also disable google play services and google play store + remove my google account from phone and instal apps from Amazon, appstore,appgalery or as apk from my browser. How will this affect my phone? And i do not know if apps i downloaded not from playstore gonna work normal and stabil. Notifications will work normal??? Are there any apps do not work without google play services? I know google cloud messaging is important. It looks like i only need google cloud messasing for now. How to replace gcm?? Without root.
Installing apps from outside of Google Play Store is a surefire way to put yourself in danger. By installing apps from third-party stores, you're bypassing security measures put in place to vet apps for malware threats, making it much easier for a hacker to infiltrate your device with an infected app .
Here on xda many people using root or open source apps. Let's say i bought a new phone and i did not add google account. I removed all possible google apps. I disabled all other google services i can not remove. I downloaded apps as apk files. Will apps update or send push notifications normally? That is all i need to learn. The apps i use are outlook,twitter,signal,telegram,duckduckgo,yandex navi,onedrive and samsung cloud for sync and back up. I do not use any google apps or facebook,whatsapp,instagram, messenger. I just do not know what will be effected with removing google account from phone and disabling google play services. I just need few apps keep sending notifications.
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Installing apps from outside of Google Play Store is a surefire way to put yourself in danger. By installing apps from third-party stores, you're bypassing security measures put in place to vet apps for malware threats, making it much easier for a hacker to infiltrate your device with an infected app .
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^Truth^
At the very least scan any apks you intend to side load online with Virustotal. Just downloading them onto an Android without installing them isn't without risk. I side load only 2 or 3 apks from trusted sources.
You can download from Playstore then disable it, all apps will still function. I do this all the time.
Google Play Services* is needed for Playstore to run as well as some none Google apps.
You can then use ApkExport to copy your apps so you don't need to use Playstore next time you need to reload the OS. You save system apk updates as well so a full reload is possible with little or no internet connection. I store these on my SD card but a PC can be used.
Use Karma Firewall to block all the Google junk.
You can easily enable apks if needed.
It's freeware and uses very little battery.
*block Google Play Services with Karma Firewall when not using Playstore. A reboot will be needed after it's enabled for Playstore to work. GPS will waste battery by constantly connecting to the internet (4 times @ minute) if not firewall blocked.
I have a pixel 7 pro. Yesterday I had to clear the cache and data on Google Play services. After that the Google wallet, quick setting tile as well as the shortcut on my lock screen are gone. The quick setting tile is great out and says" wallet unavailable." I have tried clearing data and cache on the wallet and GPay. Nothing will work. What do I do?
I can add cards and ready it for NFC payments. To use it though. I would have to open my phone and open the app every time. The quick setting tile and lock screen route are much better.
Is your device rooted?
Try using the safetynet-fix 2.0 mod and shamiko (doesn't require lsposed, just a module made by them).
To use shamiko you turn off "Enforce DenyList" before flashing as shamiko module does that using the "Configure DenyList" and hides more aspects of magisk/zygisk.
I have wallet working fine.
I have not added any Google apps to DenyList.
V0latyle said:
Is your device rooted?
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Yes. But I'm able to add a card and even to turn on scanning to pay. I just need to open the app. I wasn't required to do this before.
TotallyAnxious said:
Try using the safetynet-fix 2.0 mod and shamiko (doesn't require lsposed, just a module made by them).
To use shamiko you turn off "Enforce DenyList" before flashing as shamiko module does that using the "Configure DenyList" and hides more aspects of magisk/zygisk.
I have wallet working fine.
I have not added any Google apps to DenyList.
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I have the latest safety net fix. I am not using shamiko. I didn't need it before. Idk what would have changed to require it now.
Schroeder09 said:
I have the latest safety net fix. I am not using shamiko. I didn't need it before. Idk what would have changed to require it now.
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You *checks notes* reported a problem and asked for helped and turned down the first suggestion given. Mkay.
TotallyAnxious said:
You *checks notes* reported a problem and asked for helped and turned down the first suggestion given. Mkay.
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It's more of a question. You don't have to be defensive. Why all of a sudden is this required when it wasn't before? Is Google known to do things on the server side that randomly breaks the magisk hide functionality? I know people struggle with it a lot, but it's usually been pretty stable for me.
Schroeder09 said:
It's more of a question. You don't have to be defensive. Why all of a sudden is this required when it wasn't before? Is Google known to do things on the server side that randomly breaks the magisk hide functionality? I know people struggle with it a lot, but it's usually been pretty stable for me.
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Google is known to do this. Server side updates.
You didn't ask a question. You said I'm not going to using shamiko. Which is a complete rebuff of my suggestion.
Edit: magisk hide? Are you using magisk delta and or other unofficial magisk build?
Shamiko generally isn't required unless you're trying to specifically hide root, which is not necessary for Google Wallet, which relies exclusively on Play Integrity to report device state. I try to ensure I fully understand what the problem is before I offer solutions.
@Schroeder09 have you tried clearing Wallet data? You may have to re-add cards but it sounds like a bug
Schroeder09 said:
I have the latest safety net fix. I am not using shamiko. I didn't need it before. Idk what would have changed to require it now.
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Please note that SafetyNet has been discontinued and replaced by Play Integrity. More information here. Just for the sake of eliminating possibilities, can you download Play Integrity Checker and post your response? You should have BASIC and DEVICE green, STRONG red.
V0latyle said:
Well...to be fair, it seems like your response assumed he was having a certification/attestation failure, and threw a bunch of unnecessary stuff at him. Shamiko generally isn't required unless you're trying to specifically hide root, which is not necessary for Google Wallet, which relies exclusively on Play Integrity to report device state.
Let's not be disrespectful, folks.
@Schroeder09 have you tried clearing Wallet data? You may have to re-add cards but it sounds like a bug
Please note that SafetyNet has been discontinued and replaced by Play Integrity. More information here. Just for the sake of eliminating possibilities, can you download Play Integrity Checker and post your response? You should have BASIC and DEVICE green, STRONG red.
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I made a suggestion and explained my suggestion. That's not throwing too much at someone.
If you read the original post you'd would see that they cleared data already.
Given that everything was working prior, it sounds like Shamiko won't help in this particular circumstance as this isn't a attestation/certification issue.
@Schroeder09 since this happened after clearing data for Google Play Services (which removes your Google account) you might have to basically start over with apps that require Google sign in. This will be a pain in the butt, but may be worth a try:
Manually remove your Google account
Force stop and clear data for Google Play Services, GPay, Play Store, and Wallet
Reboot
Add your Google account
Open GPay, Play Store, and Wallet, and set everything back up
Reboot again
Basically, clearing data for Play Services has ripple effects that can cause problem in dependent apps, since they use the GMS suite to access your Google account data
TotallyAnxious said:
Google is known to do this. Server side updates.
You didn't ask a question. You said I'm not going to using shamiko. Which is a complete rebuff of my suggestion.
Edit: magisk hide? Are you using magisk delta and or other unofficial magisk build?
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What I meant was I currently do not have it. I already have safety net fix 2.3.1 and what's always been enough. Not that I will not use it. I didn't mean that.
I have YASNAC and integrity checker. Both pass. Google Play store says my device is certified. This happened after clearing the cache and data from Google Play services. That's all I did. Again, the apps themselves are functioning. The quick tile and the lock screen access for the wallet are what is no longer functioning.
V0latyle said:
Again, mind your tone, disrespect will not be tolerated here.
You offered a solution without understanding what the problem is, and from my own experience, it sounds like Shamiko won't help in this particular circumstance
@Schroeder09 since this happened after clearing data for Google Play Services (which removes your Google account) you might have to basically start over with apps that require Google sign in. This will be a pain in the butt, but may be worth a try:
Manually remove your Google account
Force stop and clear data for Google Play Services, GPay, Play Store, and Wallet
Reboot
Add your Google account
Open GPay, Play Store, and Wallet, and set everything back up
Reboot again
Basically, clearing data for Play Services has ripple effects that can cause problem in dependent apps, since they use the GMS suite to access your Google account data
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Delete my posts if you want act this way.
V0latyle said:
Again, mind your tone, disrespect will not be tolerated here.
You offered a solution without understanding what the problem is, and from my own experience, it sounds like Shamiko won't help in this particular circumstance
@Schroeder09 since this happened after clearing data for Google Play Services (which removes your Google account) you might have to basically start over with apps that require Google sign in. This will be a pain in the butt, but may be worth a try:
Manually remove your Google account
Force stop and clear data for Google Play Services, GPay, Play Store, and Wallet
Reboot
Add your Google account
Open GPay, Play Store, and Wallet, and set everything back up
Reboot again
Basically, clearing data for Play Services has ripple effects that can cause problem in dependent apps, since they use the GMS suite to access your Google account data
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I did clear cache and data from Google pay and g pay after this happen. Yes, I did have to re-add the cards and set everything back up. I did not remove my account from the Google app. I will do them all simultaneously and report back. Thanks.
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Delete my posts if you want act this way.
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Folks, please try to stay on topic and refrain from personal quibbles. If you have a concern that is not related to the content of the thread or its posts, then this is not the place for it. If you have a specific comment about V0latyle's advice, you are more than welcome to raise it here, but I ask that you do so in a way that is civil and reasonable.
Thanks for helping to keep the board clean.
Schroeder09 said:
I did clear cache and data from Google pay and g pay after this happen. Yes, I did have to re-add the cards and set everything back up. I did not remove my account from the Google app. I will do them all simultaneously and report back. Thanks.
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Right, I think you may need to set things back up in a specific order though. Try the steps I suggested.
I want to reiterate that while I don't have anything in particular against Shamiko, I don't think it will help in this circumstance because you're already passing Play Integrity. Shamiko is intended to help hide Magisk, Zygisk, and the su binary, all of which are not necessary for Google apps.
I just checked and Wallet is working fine for me without Shamiko. The only thing I have installed is Displax's SafetyNet fix mod and I've added all Google apps to DenyList (may not be necessary but it doesn't break anything either) including both Wallet and GPay since I have both apps on my phone.
I think we all might be getting tunnel vision into thinking this is a SafetyNet or Magisk issue -- when I think it could be Wallet and/or a bug connecting it to its Quick Tile...
I'm thinking you should try an older version of Wallet & GPay [Google Pay] (APKMirror would be a good resource to look at) and see if it still doesn't show up with those; maybe a recent update is causing some kind of bug/glitch/incompatibility...
Also, if not Wallet or Magisk, I'm thinking since this had all started with Google Play Services, it might still have to do with that more than anything else. I recall myself when I was attempting some other things, I cleared cache & data of Services, Services Framework, and Play Store and found that my Wallet had been reset as well (even though I did not clear its data); Also I think I do remember seeing the quick tile as unavailable. Maybe re-establishing Play Services & Framework need to be done before anything as well. I know Play Store didn't want to work right until I cleared data twice more on Play Services...
If it is root, I would suggest flashing the stock init_boot back and removing/uninstalling Magisk and seeing if it would still cause the issue -- although, now that I think of it, will Wallet put up a stink just for having the bootloader unlocked? because if it does, I wouldn't re-lock the bootloader just for this and would instead trying other hide-root methods instead...
Also, a thought -- You could try other Quick Tile apps/customizers to see if they can't get a proper Quick Tile for Wallet working. It might show whether any/all Quick Tiles towards it are having an issue or just the Wallet app...
I dunno if any of this will get anything working properly, but it's just some ideas to help troubleshoot and maybe identify/narrow-down where the issue might truly lie...good luck!
V0latyle said:
Given that everything was working prior, it sounds like Shamiko won't help in this particular circumstance as this isn't a attestation/certification issue.
@Schroeder09 since this happened after clearing data for Google Play Services (which removes your Google account) you might have to basically start over with apps that require Google sign in. This will be a pain in the butt, but may be worth a try:
Manually remove your Google account
Force stop and clear data for Google Play Services, GPay, Play Store, and Wallet
Reboot
Add your Google account
Open GPay, Play Store, and Wallet, and set everything back up
Reboot again
Basically, clearing data for Play Services has ripple effects that can cause problem in dependent apps, since they use the GMS suite to access your Google account data
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Completed and still no dice. Guess I'll just do a fresh install at the next update and wipe everything.
EDIT: it did work! It's taken 2-5 minutes to load but the card is now in the QS tile and on the lock screen. Thank you.
Schroeder09 said:
Completed and still no dice. Guess I'll just do a fresh install at the next update and wipe everything.
EDIT: it did work! It's taken 2-5 minutes to load but the card is now in the QS tile and on the lock screen. Thank you.
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Glad to help.