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Hi everyone here
I got a concern about my TF101 Tablet.
When I switch my Tablet screen off and set the WiFi as turn off when screen off, my battery still drains extremely fast. From the pic you can see, my battery is running out from full to 10% in only 1day and 6 hours without any use. My GPS and bluetooth are also turned off in this period. From the pic you can also see my CPU load is over 30% at most of the time.
From the second pic, I can see the process "System" uses the CPU very hard
Can some one figure it out and I will appriciate it very much!
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wm2001wm2001 said:
Hi everyone here
I got a concern about my TF101 Tablet.
When I switch my Tablet screen off and set the WiFi as turn off when screen off, my battery still drains extremely fast. From the pic you can see, my battery is running out from full to 10% in only 1day and 6 hours without any use. My GPS and bluetooth are also turned off in this period. From the pic you can also see my CPU load is over 30% at most of the time.
From the second pic, I can see the process "System" uses the CPU very hard
Can some one figure it out and I will appriciate it very much!
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I am seeing the exact same problem, not sure what the cause is either. I read somewhere about "wakelocks" where some app will try to keep the CPU awake when you try to go into standby and it results in high system usage.
Thank you for this thread, I am also having this problem. I think the problem for me may be because of Google Maps.
Basically, I'm running some tests now. I had massive battery drain overnight while I slept. The tablet would go from 90% down to 50% in an 10 hour period (4%/hr). It didn't matter if it was docked or not docked. I was running Google Maps v5.8.0 and saw some people post that the new version is eating up the battery. So I removed the updates for Google Maps and tried again.
Now I'm running v5.6.1 of Google Maps and the battery went from 100% to 42% in a 17 hour period with absolutely no use (3.5%/hr). I checked battery usage, and Google Maps is at the top and it's taking up 41% of what was used. That's ridiculous.
So now I'm going to install the latest Google Maps and see if this helps at all. I've also attached some screen shots of my latest tests.
Other details:
Wi-Fi is set to sleep when the screen turns off.
MobileDock Battery saving mode is checked.
Use location for Google Search is unchecked.
I did another test last night after having updated Google Maps to v5.9.0 (latest). I got the same results. Google Maps is eating through my battery when the tablet should be sleeping.
Here's the results:
The tablet was undocked, and fully charged.
I didn't touch the tablet for 15 hours.
The battery went from 100% to 55% in 15 hours = 3%/hr drain.
Google Maps was largest user of battery at 75%!!
I also did a reboot after I updated Google Maps to v5.9.0.
WTH is going on here?! Anyone have any ideas??
ScubaSteveo said:
I did another test last night after having updated Google Maps to v5.9.0 (latest). I got the same results. Google Maps is eating through my battery when the tablet should be sleeping.
Here's the results:
The tablet was undocked, and fully charged.
I didn't touch the tablet for 15 hours.
The battery went from 100% to 55% in 15 hours = 3%/hr drain.
Google Maps was largest user of battery at 75%!!
I also did a reboot after I updated Google Maps to v5.9.0.
WTH is going on here?! Anyone have any ideas??
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Try turning off all location services (WIFI/GPS) and see if the problem goes away. I did something similar and the sleep mode CPU utilization dropped back to 1% or so. I haven't yet enabled the settings one by one to see which one cis causing the issue.
wilkster said:
Try turning off all location services (WIFI/GPS) and see if the problem goes away. I did something similar and the sleep mode CPU utilization dropped back to 1% or so. I haven't yet enabled the settings one by one to see which one cis causing the issue.
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You are correct. I am able to turn the Airplane mode on and see virtually no battery drain at night. But this is rather annoying to have to turn on airplane mode every time you are done using the tablet and turn it back off whenever you want to use the tablet.
The best option would be to locate the source of this issue and fix that. Tonight I'll be testing Google Latitude turned off to see if this fixes anything.
As a test I turned back on location services (GPS/Google) but unchecked the use WiFi for location and found the problem went away overnight. Only a few % CPU use. Not quite as good as leaving in Airplane mode but close. Lost about 2-3% CPU over 7 hours. WiFi use setting is to disable with screen turned off.
So after my test last night, I still had massive battery drain.
I turned off Latitude as best I could last night and still same result. Google Maps is chewing up my battery like no other: from 100% to 52% in 15 hours with zero usage by me. Anyone have any other ideas? Any other apps that might be causing this?
ScubaSteveo said:
So after my test last night, I still had massive battery drain.
I turned off Latitude as best I could last night and still same result. Google Maps is chewing up my battery like no other: from 100% to 52% in 15 hours with zero usage by me. Anyone have any other ideas? Any other apps that might be causing this?
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I had previously logged out of latitude and saw the same high drain result as you, so don't think it is that. When I disabled the WiFi location the drain stopped (leaving gps on). I agree it may be Google maps related since it uses the WiFi location services (since maps uses that service to locate the tablet along with gps).
I have a similar issue, but my problem is not with Google Maps. Instead, the main battery drain is "Android System." I usually leave my Transformer on standby 24/7 and used to only have to charge once a week. This problem appeared out of the blue a few days ago.
Google mail is the only thing on auto-sync, and this setting has never caused any issues in the past. Thus, I'm not sure why Android System is now suddenly waking up at random when asleep. You can see in the plot that System constantly requires 30% CPU usage once it happens, until I actually turn the device back on.
In addition, my wi-fi sleep policy is set to turn off when the screen is off. Recently, it seems it is always on, even when the device is asleep.
EDIT: The graphs from the OP suggest that our issue might be related, but the problem appears to manifest much more frequently for the OP. Crossing my fingers that next week's update somehow fixes this problem.
LagginTimes said:
I have a similar issue, but my problem is not with Google Maps. Instead, the main battery drain is "Android System." I usually leave my Transformer on standby 24/7 and used to only have to charge once a week. This problem appeared out of the blue a few days ago.
Google mail is the only thing on auto-sync, and this setting has never caused any issues in the past. Thus, I'm not sure why Android System is now suddenly waking up at random when asleep. You can see in the plot that System constantly requires 30% CPU usage once it happens, until I actually turn the device back on.
In addition, my wi-fi sleep policy is set to turn off when the screen is off. Recently, it seems it is always on, even when the device is asleep.
EDIT: The graphs from the OP suggest that our issue might be related, but the problem appears to manifest much more frequently for the OP. Crossing my fingers that next week's update somehow fixes this problem.
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The system process was the same issue on my system as well (didn't show up as google maps). I confirmed that turning off the "Use Wireless Networks" under Location and Security stopped the constant 30% cpu usage when in standby.
After freezing Maps, which is the biggest culprit for me....i noticed, System Process' was way high now.
28%
After doing some searching.... came up with this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16828183&postcount=605
At least for my case.
Google Maps battery drain Solved!
For me, I figured out the issue was Latitude.
I was getting bad battery drain overnight and Google Maps was the largest user by far. I finally signed out of Latitude completely. Battery drain dropped to around 2% (total) overnight! This is acceptable!
As it turns out, Latitude wakes up my device while it should be sleeping in order to update my location and therefore draining massive battery overnight. I'm going to post this as a bug with Latitude/Google Maps because this is causing waaaay too much battery drain.
So it looks like I won't be able to leave Latitude signed in. Once I'm done using it, I will have to sign out of Latitude. This way I can leave Wi-Fi on and set to turn off when the screen turns off. Thereby I get really good battery life again.
On a side note, my phone has the same behaviour, but I never noticed it because I'm usually charging my phone at night. So Latitude...basically...sucks (battery).
I'm running 4.2.2 Jellybean on the new Droid Ultra. Motorola Smartactions are now gone and I can no longer have GPS come on automatically when connected to my car's bluetooth.
It looks like the only option now is to have my GPS constantly on. I wanted to know if Google Now constantly uses my GPS location and will drain my battery.
I've tweaked the settings on my other apps not to use GPS based location. I don't see this setting on Google Now.
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For some reason. After enabling google now and with that, enabling google to use anonomys location data, Maps seems to be running in the background sometimes. Google analatics is also a culprit, it's running in the background too.
Google now doesn't use your location data(gps) 24/7, but it does tend to gather info based on your location now and then.
It does this so it can suggest more relevant location info via Google Now.
Not to good for battery I've experienced.
Google Now only uses GPS when you activate it.
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it uses it as needed, but not every instant
Google Now definitely does *not* constantly use GPS. Right now my phone shows 4 minutes GPS use in the last 4 hours (a short walk home from work).
Google is keenly aware of the tradeoff between location accuracy and power. That's why they created the new Location APIs: see developer.android.com/google/play-services/location.html (sorry no links).
The idea is to use the least power-consuming sensor to get the desired information. For example, the phone can use the accelerometer (which takes almost no power) to see if the phone's moving. If it's not, then there's no need to update the location. If it can figure out roughly where you are from WiFi (at Starbucks again!) or the cell network then it may not need GPS. Even when the GPS is used, it needs fewer readings when you're walking than when you're driving.
Between readings, Android will try to put the GPS in a low power idle state to avoid a 2 minute cold start. Whether it can or not depends on the phone's chipset and the manufacturer's firmware.
Google Now wants to track your location so it can guess where you're going. I think it's cute, but then it doesn't use much power on my Galaxy Nexus.
The power-vampire is more likely to be a 3rd party application. As an Android developer, I know it's way way easier to just fire up the GPS when the app starts, or even before it starts, and leave it running at high speed (i.e. high power) even when I'm not using it. It takes much more effort to use GPS sparingly and to throttle it as a appropriate.
Suggestion: Leave GPS turned on for a day, and check the power usage under Settings / Battery. Then turn it off for a day and compare. You can tap the Google Services line for details, including GPS usage time.
ehartwell said:
Google Now definitely does *not* constantly use GPS. Right now my phone shows 4 minutes GPS use in the last 4 hours (a short walk home from work).
Google is keenly aware of the tradeoff between location accuracy and power. That's why they created the new Location APIs: see developer.android.com/google/play-services/location.html (sorry no links).
The idea is to use the least power-consuming sensor to get the desired information. For example, the phone can use the accelerometer (which takes almost no power) to see if the phone's moving. If it's not, then there's no need to update the location. If it can figure out roughly where you are from WiFi (at Starbucks again!) or the cell network then it may not need GPS. Even when the GPS is used, it needs fewer readings when you're walking than when you're driving.
Between readings, Android will try to put the GPS in a low power idle state to avoid a 2 minute cold start. Whether it can or not depends on the phone's chipset and the manufacturer's firmware.
Google Now wants to track your location so it can guess where you're going. I think it's cute, but then it doesn't use much power on my Galaxy Nexus.
The power-vampire is more likely to be a 3rd party application. As an Android developer, I know it's way way easier to just fire up the GPS when the app starts, or even before it starts, and leave it running at high speed (i.e. high power) even when I'm not using it. It takes much more effort to use GPS sparingly and to throttle it as a appropriate.
Suggestion: Leave GPS turned on for a day, and check the power usage under Settings / Battery. Then turn it off for a day and compare. You can tap the Google Services line for details, including GPS usage time.
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Very informative. Thank you! I'm actually using the MAXX version of the new Droid Ultra. Has the 3,500 mAh battery. This phone lasts a LONG time.
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I just noticed under Battery usage there is a Battery Saver on/off toggle. How does that work?
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I've been leaving the gps constantly on without using navigation for one day. At the end of 24 hours the gps had only been on for a total of 3 minutes 27 seconds. From now on I'm leaving the gps on and never turning it off. No worries on draining the battery.
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Great info in this thread guys. Actually came to this forum to ask a couple questions, and this thread already answered one!
I have been using my N5 for a couple of weeks and I know its battery life isn't the greatest. I have watched some youtube videos for tips on better battery life, and here's what I have done.
Turn off auto brightness, and screen brightness is about 1/4 of the way
Turn off haptic feedback
Turn off vibration on keypress
Turn off sync for most Google services
Turn off NFC
Location service set to battery saving mode
But it seems like after all that's been done, the battery is still draining pretty fast. For example, I went out for dinner and drinks with friends and my phone is just sitting in my pocket the whole time not being used, 4 hours later, I have lost 30% battery. Coming from an htc one, it doesn't drain nearly as much. Is this abnormal or just about right for the N5, thoughts?
Infiniteloop7 said:
I have been using my N5 for a couple of weeks and I know its battery life isn't the greatest. I have watched some youtube videos for tips on better battery life, and here's what I have done.
Turn off auto brightness, and screen brightness is about 1/4 of the way
Turn off haptic feedback
Turn off vibration on keypress
Turn off sync for most Google services
Turn off NFC
Location service set to battery saving mode
But it seems like after all that's been done, the battery is still draining pretty fast. For example, I went out for dinner and drinks with friends and my phone is just sitting in my pocket the whole time not being used, 4 hours later, I have lost 30% battery. Coming from an htc one, it doesn't drain nearly as much. Is this abnormal or just about right for the N5, thoughts?
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7.5%/hr is high for standby time. You can get it down to 1-2%/hr by using more of the battery-saving tips you'll find in the various threads on the subject.
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Check the wakelock with better battery stat
If you don't need GPS on all the time turn that off too saves quite a bit of battery even the battery saving mode isn't that battery friendly
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Infiniteloop7 said:
But it seems like after all that's been done, the battery is still draining pretty fast. For example, I went out for dinner and drinks with friends and my phone is just sitting in my pocket the whole time not being used, 4 hours later, I have lost 30% battery. Coming from an htc one, it doesn't drain nearly as much. Is this abnormal or just about right for the N5, thoughts?
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You really need to share your battery usage screen, and show what apps drained your battery. It is possible that you were had low signal strength, and so your phone kept trying to search for a signal and drained itself. Also, as dark_ente suggested, look at betterbatterystats results to see if you had wakelocks.
With no active use, that is very high drain - unless you were in a very low signal strength area, or had an app keeping your phone awake.
When I work from home, connected to WiFi, my phone drains about 3-4% in about 9 hours (assuming I don't actively use it. I use pushbullet to show me all notifications on my PC, so I don't have to turn my phone on at all)
Infiniteloop7 said:
Turn off auto brightness, and screen brightness is about 1/4 of the way - I do the same (actually, I set it to the lowest possible level), because it is too bright
Turn off haptic feedback - I do the same, because it is annoying
Turn off vibration on keypress - I do the same, because it is annoying
Turn off sync for most Google services - I leave sync on
Turn off NFC - I leave it on
Location service set to battery saving mode - I do the same - but set up a tasker profile to enable GPS when I launch maps - Disabling GPS helped the most in my case
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jj14 said:
You really need to share your battery usage screen, and show what apps drained your battery. It is possible that you were had low signal strength, and so your phone kept trying to search for a signal and drained itself. Also, as dark_ente suggested, look at betterbatterystats results to see if you had wakelocks.
With no active use, that is very high drain - unless you were in a very low signal strength area, or had an app keeping your phone awake.
When I work from home, connected to WiFi, my phone drains about 3-4% in about 9 hours (assuming I don't actively use it. I use pushbullet to show me all notifications on my PC, so I don't have to turn my phone on at all)
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When you say turning off GPS and only enable it while launching maps, do you mean turn off location completely? Does that affect other Google apps/services? Such as Google now
If all else fails, do a factory reset.
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I noticed from the past few days that my N5 seems to have abnormal battery usage pattern. There are days with mostly light use (text messaging, whatsapp messaging, some web browsing, minimal on screen time) I can go for 2 days without charging, and I am only losing 1% battery per hour when it's in stand by. However, they are times (see attachment) when I didn't use my phone for 11 hours, and the battery level is down from fully charged to 26%. Can anyone give me some ideas on what may be the culprit?
kevtrysmoddin said:
If you don't need GPS on all the time turn that off too saves quite a bit of battery even the battery saving mode isn't that battery friendly
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battery saver mode is actually very battery friendly. i've done extensive testing...
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Infiniteloop7 said:
I noticed from the past few days that my N5 seems to have abnormal battery usage pattern. There are days with mostly light use (text messaging, whatsapp messaging, some web browsing, minimal on screen time) I can go for 2 days without charging, and I am only losing 1% battery per hour when it's in stand by. However, they are times (see attachment) when I didn't use my phone for 11 hours, and the battery level is down from fully charged to 26%. Can anyone give me some ideas on what may be the culprit?
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you need 'better battery stats' log. . . stock battery screen tells you almost nothing
Infiniteloop7 said:
When you say turning off GPS and only enable it while launching maps, do you mean turn off location completely? Does that affect other Google apps/services? Such as Google now
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No. I keep location enabled all the time, but in battery saver mode - that way, google now, weather widgets etc can get my approximate location (using cell tower triangulation), but can't activate my GPS for accurate location fix.
When I use maps/navigation (which in my case is the only time when I need accurate GPS location fix), I change from battery saving location to the GPS type location fix, and when I'm done with maps/nav, I switch back to battery saving location.
If you turned location off completely, google now, and possibly other apps (like weather widgets for current location) won't work.
Infiniteloop7 said:
I noticed from the past few days that my N5 seems to have abnormal battery usage pattern. There are days with mostly light use (text messaging, whatsapp messaging, some web browsing, minimal on screen time) I can go for 2 days without charging, and I am only losing 1% battery per hour when it's in stand by. However, they are times (see attachment) when I didn't use my phone for 11 hours, and the battery level is down from fully charged to 26%. Can anyone give me some ideas on what may be the culprit?
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From your 2nd screen print, you can see that your phone was awake pretty often. As @Enddo wrote, betterbatterystats should help you figure out what is causing the wakelocks.
Enddo said:
battery saver mode is actually very battery friendly. i've done extensive testing...
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you need 'better battery stats' log. . . stock battery screen tells you almost nothing
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jj14 said:
No. I keep location enabled all the time, but in battery saver mode - that way, google now, weather widgets etc can get my approximate location (using cell tower triangulation), but can't activate my GPS for accurate location fix.
When I use maps/navigation (which in my case is the only time when I need accurate GPS location fix), I change from battery saving location to the GPS type location fix, and when I'm done with maps/nav, I switch back to battery saving location.
If you turned location off completely, google now, and possibly other apps (like weather widgets for current location) won't work.
From your 2nd screen print, you can see that your phone was awake pretty often. As @Enddo wrote, betterbatterystats should help you figure out what is causing the wakelocks.
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I am still pretty new to Android and I don't know how to root my phone. I did check out betterbatterystats on google play, it says the app doesn't work on non-rooted Android phone running kitkat, that's why I haven't installed it yet. It seems that kitkat made some changes which prevent battery usage apps from working properly, wake lock detector also won't work on non-rooted phones running kitkat
Infiniteloop7 said:
I am still pretty new to Android and I don't know how to root my phone. I did check out betterbatterystats on google play, it says the app doesn't work on non-rooted Android phone running kitkat, that's why I haven't installed it yet. It seems that kitkat made some changes which prevent battery usage apps from working properly, wake lock detector also won't work on non-rooted phones running kitkat
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Rooting is pretty easy. And it opens up a whole new world.
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Infiniteloop7 said:
I am still pretty new to Android and I don't know how to root my phone. I did check out betterbatterystats on google play, it says the app doesn't work on non-rooted Android phone running kitkat, that's why I haven't installed it yet. It seems that kitkat made some changes which prevent battery usage apps from working properly, wake lock detector also won't work on non-rooted phones running kitkat
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While betterbatterystats will work on kitkat (unrooted), it won't give you partial wakelock summary That requires root)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15869904&postcount=3 - see FAQ 1 and 3. You can download the kitkat compatible version from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
As PhilipTD wrote, rooting a N5 is pretty easy, but if you don't feel comfortable doing it, don't.
If you decide to root, follow the steps in first post at the link that PhilipTD provided.
Note that Step 1 (unlocking bootloader) will wipe out all your data.
Before you root, why not disable GPS (keep location active) and see if that helps? Also, how often do you reboot your phone?
Hi, I really did some research but I find alot of ROMs and Kernels and I always get lost. I just need a good safe way to better the battery life of my Nexus 5 and keep it's stability and all the functions it has. So I wanted to ask what you guys recommend as Kernels, apps and lastly (I dont want to change unless its worth it) ROMs.
Sorry, its been hard without a PC to do decent research.
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The ROM has very little to do with battery life. It's all about the kernel or the apps.
We can't recommend kernels (or roms) as this is against the rules. They will all pretty much help with battery life. Just try them all- yourself.
Apps:
Greenify
Better battery Stats
That's it. Anything else I would recommend is going through all your settings and turning off things you dont need like location reporting etc
if battery life is all you are looking for... the difference are ... not much
Just disable google apps that you do not use, then you are good to go.
Locations settings, always off, activate only when needed. uncheck all under Google Location Reporting.
Disable NFC if not needed.
If you don't have good LTE coverage, change it to 3G under mobile networks.
For maximum battery life, do NOT activate Google Now.
eg. (These are apps I've disabled)
Drive
Earth
Email
Exchange Services
Face Unlock
Gallery (I use QuickPic as alternative)
Gmail
Google Hindi input (These ones gets disabled once you uncheck them from input settings)
Google Play books
Google Play Games
Google Play Magazines
Google Play Movies & TV
Google Play Music (I use Poweramp *Paid)
Google+
Keep
Maps
News & weather
Quickoffice
Street View
Tags
TalkBack
Hangouts (I use HoverChat *Paid)
Check this thread mate...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/nexus-5-battery-results-t2509132/
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Check this thread mate...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/nexus-5-battery-results-t2509132/
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What he said ^^^^
It doesn't matter what's on your phone....you should be able to get good battery life. Its all about setup and usage.
Just gotta troubleshoot issues occasionally.
Please check the thread linked above, and read read read. . (Start on last page and read back for a bit....a lot of good info)
On my phone it certainly seems to have something to do with signal quality. At home, I can put the phone next to the bed at night with it fully charged and wake up with it at about 95 or 96%.
At work a fully charged phone just sitting on my desk drops to about 90% in only a couple of hours.
The signal quality in my building at work is pretty poor, so I'm guessing the phone is using a lot of extra energy desperately searching for a better signal .
Claghorn said:
On my phone it certainly seems to have something to do with signal quality. At home, I can put the phone next to the bed at night with it fully charged and wake up with it at about 95 or 96%.
At work a fully charged phone just sitting on my desk drops to about 90% in only a couple of hours.
The signal quality in my building at work is pretty poor, so I'm guessing the phone is using a lot of extra energy desperately searching for a better signal .
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Poor and searching for signal is probably the biggest battery drain there can be.
Get gsam. And after your at work a few hours, open and click on "phone radio". It will say how long your phone was actually searching for a signal. That's a huge battery killer.
The only cures, get on WiFi. Or go into airplane mode. Toggle off data might help, then you'd still get texts and phone calls.
kj2112 said:
The only cures, get on WiFi.
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I do have wifi on in both locations, so the wifi part of this doesn't help. I suspect data isn't the issue, just the cell connection. My old phone used to randomly reboot inside this building when trying to get a signal . I guess I should install gsam just to verify, but the signal is really the only difference between work and home, so I'm pretty sure that is the issue.
Claghorn said:
I do have wifi on in both locations, so the wifi part of this doesn't help. I suspect data isn't the issue, just the cell connection. My old phone used to randomly reboot inside this building when trying to get a signal . I guess I should install gsam just to verify, but the signal is really the only difference between work and home, so I'm pretty sure that is the issue.
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Usually battery drain from a low or bad signal is only a big issue while on data. On WiFi it doesn't affect the battery much , if any. Its from apps trying to sync through data on a bad or no signal. So on WiFi, that's not an issue.
At home I get fairly poor reception...sometimes only a bar...with some time spent searching for signal, but my battery times are at their best at home. On WiFi.
It could be a network issue. Some devices on networks can affect your device by spam polling your phone....might want to also get wakelock detector to see that. If the LAN is draining your battery, there will be wakelocks from it.
Try gsam and compare work results to home results. Especially good would be trying at least a few hours of total standby to see the difference at both locations. You'd have to reset gsam stats to start your standby test at all zeros though. A reboot will reset gsam.
Good luck!
Remove all google [email protected]%# ...
And disable autostart from programs like poweramp which start on boot...use romtoolbox and autostart manager
Of course, pay attention to what you're going to disable
If You will try and You have some doubt ask here
I use a lightweight aosp ROM, a minimal gapps package, stock kernel, disabled some programs from boot and run in background...and battery duration is good
Don't ask to us roms/kernel combo, please Questions like your are not allowed on xda
Always read the users feedback and make Your choice
And... My doubt..is it really needed to change the kernel ??
Give stock kernel a chance... That's all I can say...
And make sure to charge your phone the right way
Hi! Anyone knows if I can disable the processes that Viber starts every so often? Like the in-app processes, it keeps on running in the background consuming a huge chunk of my battery. I already emailed Viber about it but unfortunately they don't have a fix for it.
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natadecocolococo said:
Hi! Anyone knows if I can disable the processes that Viber starts every so often? Like the in-app processes, it keeps on running in the background consuming a huge chunk of my battery. I already emailed Viber about it but unfortunately they don't have a fix for it.
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Greenify?
rootSU said:
Greenify?
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I'll try that. Thanks.
kj2112 said:
Try gsam and compare work results to home results. Especially good would be trying at least a few hours of total standby to see the difference at both locations. You'd have to reset gsam stats to start your standby test at all zeros though. A reboot will reset gsam.
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OK, I turned the phone off, charged it to 100%, then pretty much let it sit doing nothing after rebooting. After sitting overnight at home (where the battery doesn't drain much) the "Phone" app was way down in the list:
GSam Labs - Battery Monitor - Export Data
Phone
Apr 30, 2014 9:55:45 AM
Usage Details
CPU Usage:2s
CPU Usage (Background Only):2s
Keep Awake:19s
Number of Wake Locks:177
Number of times waking device:2
App UID:1001
Wakelock Detail
RILJ8.8s(136)...
Did the same recharge with phone off at work, rebooted, then let it sit on my desk for just a couple of hours, and "Phone" is now the 2nd biggest culprit in the apps list:
GSam Labs - Battery Monitor - Export Data
Phone
May 1, 2014 10:35:57 AM
Usage Details
CPU Usage:3m 24s
CPU Usage (Background Only):3m 24s
Keep Awake:12m 1s
Number of Wake Locks:1167
Number of times waking device:141
App UID:1001
Wakelock Detail
RILJ11.9m(1031)...
Wifi was on in both locations (with a good signal), I even turned off location to prevent that overhead. It just hates the environment at work .
Claghorn said:
OK, I turned the phone off, charged it to 100%, then pretty much let it sit doing nothing after rebooting. After sitting overnight at home (where the battery doesn't drain much) the "Phone" app was way down in the list:
GSam Labs - Battery Monitor - Export Data
Phone
Apr 30, 2014 9:55:45 AM
Usage Details
CPU Usage:2s
CPU Usage (Background Only):2s
Keep Awake:19s
Number of Wake Locks:177
Number of times waking device:2
App UID:1001
Wakelock Detail
RILJ8.8s(136)...
Did the same recharge with phone off at work, rebooted, then let it sit on my desk for just a couple of hours, and "Phone" is now the 2nd biggest culprit in the apps list:
GSam Labs - Battery Monitor - Export Data
Phone
May 1, 2014 10:35:57 AM
Usage Details
CPU Usage:3m 24s
CPU Usage (Background Only):3m 24s
Keep Awake:12m 1s
Number of Wake Locks:1167
Number of times waking device:141
App UID:1001
Wakelock Detail
RILJ11.9m(1031)...
Wifi was on in both locations (with a good signal), I even turned off location to prevent that overhead. It just hates the environment at work .
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I think that is just the difference in signal quality. It seems to be pretty common to get degraded signal at work places due to larger structure sizes as well as more users per cell tower.
Phone Idle is from the voice network, Cell Standby is from the data connection.
Is it normal for Google Play Services to be running in the background always? The gcm and the location service is always on.
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Is it normal for Google Play Services to be running in the background always? The gcm and the location service is always on.
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Yup
And its worse with location on for sure....battery wise anyway.
hi
i have a new (3 months old) unrooted nexus 5 update to latest OS version which is showing some very odd stats wrt battery consumption.
first i had heavy battery drain but then i disabled the scanning options in the location menu which helped. but still even with brightness at only 18%, battery saver on 95% of the time, location & mobile data off all the time & wifi only used for short bursts it still seems to drain quite quickly.
app usage stats as reported by the inbuilt battery stats option differs quite a bit from other battery management apps (du battery saver, battery doctor, gsam battery monitor)
for eg. inbuilt battery stats doesnt even show wifi consumption in the stats even if i use it for few hours (then suddenly one time it showed up with some excessive consumption stats - 1500mah for 2 hours usage; photos attached). very often it shows gravity screen app as the biggest consumer of battery while other apps show gravity screen as consuming very little power. otoh gsam shows battery doctor as consuming the most of all the apps.
what could be the issue?
gsam shows average battery life with screen on as 3h 42m. is that ok?
was also wondering if the optimization options of the battery management apps work or are they gimmicks? for eg both du battery saver & battery doctor show 'x' number of apps consuming power in background & when you press the optimise/close apps button it shows some cool effects of shutting down those apps but you come back after a few hours & the same apps show up in the running in background.
also, the front camera is very grainy. cant believe its that bad in what was a flagship phone. is it just my phone or is that the how it is for other users?
anyone with any inputs?
You got nearly 5 days on a single charge??? Yes, your battery consumption is fine. Nearly 4 hours of SOT is fantastic.
The graininess of the camera will depend a lot on the lighting. Unless you have a light shining directly on your face, the picture is probably pretty dark. That said, it's "only" like a 3MP camera. It's well known as a sub-standard front camera (I'm not a selfie machine so I don't really care). When you think about how microscopic the light sensor is on the front camera, it's no wonder the picture is grainy.
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You got nearly 5 days on a single charge??? Yes, your battery consumption is fine. Nearly 4 hours of SOT is fantastic.
The graininess of the camera will depend a lot on the lighting. Unless you have a light shining directly on your face, the picture is probably pretty dark. That said, it's "only" like a 3MP camera. It's well known as a sub-standard front camera (I'm not a selfie machine so I don't really care). When you think about how microscopic the light sensor is on the front camera, it's no wonder the picture is grainy.
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thanks for your reply exninja
that 5 days was a one time thing where i barely touched the phone & then only to test it. i wish it were that good LOL. normally i get about 2 days with very conservative usage (brightness at only 18%, battery saver on 95% of the time, location & mobile data off all the time & wifi only used for short bursts, 0 talktime)
is 4 hrs SOT that good? i see a lot of people getting 5 to 6 hours + & that too without those conservative usage patterns.
the thing that got me worried is the strange battery usage stats reported in the stock settings.
Honestly I wouldn't worry that much about what each app says is using energy. They're each consuming very little anyways. I'm not familiar with gravity screen so I wouldn't know about it.
I haven't heard of many people getting 5-6 hours of sot, especially since lollipop. I got 4 hours on KitKat, then dropped to 3 or less on lollipop. Now it's usually around 2 hours.
@fguy76
First of all, just to let you know, recently Google Play Services have been acting up. Sometimes I get normal battery drain overnight when I sleep, and sometimes it drains like crazy. For now, there is nothing we can do about Google Play Services.
However, if u noticed that WiFi has been turned on the whole time via the battery history chart, despite the fact that you did not even turn on WiFi at all during that period, then this can only mean one thing. You must have enabled WiFi Scanning (the famous Scanning always available bug in Lollipop & KitKat).
To disable WiFi Scanning, go to Settings first. Then on the top of settings, there is a search bar. Type in "Scanning".
Then u will see the following options. Make sure u disable WiFi Scanning.
Having said this, there is another annoying bug. This bug is when you have left a WiFi hotspot and forgotten to turn of WiFi. So after awhile u realised it and u proceed to turn off WiFi. But hours later, u check your battery stat, and it still shows your WiFi have been active the whole time despite turning it off. For this, the only workaround is to reboot the phone. To avoid this bug, always turn off WiFi b4 u leave the WiFi hotspot area.
@pcphobic i have wifi scanning off & i always remember to turn wifi off when not using it so that second scenario is not an issue with me
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@pcphobic i have wifi scanning off & i always remember to turn wifi off when not using it so that second scenario is not an issue with me
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@fguy76
The other solution that I can offer is under Location settings, go to Google Location History and make sure it is turned off.
You can still use GPS based apps with Google Location History turned off.
I suspect that if u find intermittent wifi showing up in your battery history, it could only mean that Google Location History is periodically waking up and using wifi to get an approximate location. I used to get this until I turned off Google Location History.