[Q] Battery draining and high CPU load when idle - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone here
I got a concern about my TF101 Tablet.
When I switch my Tablet screen off and set the WiFi as turn off when screen off, my battery still drains extremely fast. From the pic you can see, my battery is running out from full to 10% in only 1day and 6 hours without any use. My GPS and bluetooth are also turned off in this period. From the pic you can also see my CPU load is over 30% at most of the time.
From the second pic, I can see the process "System" uses the CPU very hard
Can some one figure it out and I will appriciate it very much!

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wm2001wm2001 said:
Hi everyone here
I got a concern about my TF101 Tablet.
When I switch my Tablet screen off and set the WiFi as turn off when screen off, my battery still drains extremely fast. From the pic you can see, my battery is running out from full to 10% in only 1day and 6 hours without any use. My GPS and bluetooth are also turned off in this period. From the pic you can also see my CPU load is over 30% at most of the time.
From the second pic, I can see the process "System" uses the CPU very hard
Can some one figure it out and I will appriciate it very much!
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I am seeing the exact same problem, not sure what the cause is either. I read somewhere about "wakelocks" where some app will try to keep the CPU awake when you try to go into standby and it results in high system usage.

Thank you for this thread, I am also having this problem. I think the problem for me may be because of Google Maps.
Basically, I'm running some tests now. I had massive battery drain overnight while I slept. The tablet would go from 90% down to 50% in an 10 hour period (4%/hr). It didn't matter if it was docked or not docked. I was running Google Maps v5.8.0 and saw some people post that the new version is eating up the battery. So I removed the updates for Google Maps and tried again.
Now I'm running v5.6.1 of Google Maps and the battery went from 100% to 42% in a 17 hour period with absolutely no use (3.5%/hr). I checked battery usage, and Google Maps is at the top and it's taking up 41% of what was used. That's ridiculous.
So now I'm going to install the latest Google Maps and see if this helps at all. I've also attached some screen shots of my latest tests.
Other details:
Wi-Fi is set to sleep when the screen turns off.
MobileDock Battery saving mode is checked.
Use location for Google Search is unchecked.

I did another test last night after having updated Google Maps to v5.9.0 (latest). I got the same results. Google Maps is eating through my battery when the tablet should be sleeping.
Here's the results:
The tablet was undocked, and fully charged.
I didn't touch the tablet for 15 hours.
The battery went from 100% to 55% in 15 hours = 3%/hr drain.
Google Maps was largest user of battery at 75%!!
I also did a reboot after I updated Google Maps to v5.9.0.
WTH is going on here?! Anyone have any ideas??

ScubaSteveo said:
I did another test last night after having updated Google Maps to v5.9.0 (latest). I got the same results. Google Maps is eating through my battery when the tablet should be sleeping.
Here's the results:
The tablet was undocked, and fully charged.
I didn't touch the tablet for 15 hours.
The battery went from 100% to 55% in 15 hours = 3%/hr drain.
Google Maps was largest user of battery at 75%!!
I also did a reboot after I updated Google Maps to v5.9.0.
WTH is going on here?! Anyone have any ideas??
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Try turning off all location services (WIFI/GPS) and see if the problem goes away. I did something similar and the sleep mode CPU utilization dropped back to 1% or so. I haven't yet enabled the settings one by one to see which one cis causing the issue.

wilkster said:
Try turning off all location services (WIFI/GPS) and see if the problem goes away. I did something similar and the sleep mode CPU utilization dropped back to 1% or so. I haven't yet enabled the settings one by one to see which one cis causing the issue.
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You are correct. I am able to turn the Airplane mode on and see virtually no battery drain at night. But this is rather annoying to have to turn on airplane mode every time you are done using the tablet and turn it back off whenever you want to use the tablet.
The best option would be to locate the source of this issue and fix that. Tonight I'll be testing Google Latitude turned off to see if this fixes anything.

As a test I turned back on location services (GPS/Google) but unchecked the use WiFi for location and found the problem went away overnight. Only a few % CPU use. Not quite as good as leaving in Airplane mode but close. Lost about 2-3% CPU over 7 hours. WiFi use setting is to disable with screen turned off.

So after my test last night, I still had massive battery drain.
I turned off Latitude as best I could last night and still same result. Google Maps is chewing up my battery like no other: from 100% to 52% in 15 hours with zero usage by me. Anyone have any other ideas? Any other apps that might be causing this?

ScubaSteveo said:
So after my test last night, I still had massive battery drain.
I turned off Latitude as best I could last night and still same result. Google Maps is chewing up my battery like no other: from 100% to 52% in 15 hours with zero usage by me. Anyone have any other ideas? Any other apps that might be causing this?
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I had previously logged out of latitude and saw the same high drain result as you, so don't think it is that. When I disabled the WiFi location the drain stopped (leaving gps on). I agree it may be Google maps related since it uses the WiFi location services (since maps uses that service to locate the tablet along with gps).

I have a similar issue, but my problem is not with Google Maps. Instead, the main battery drain is "Android System." I usually leave my Transformer on standby 24/7 and used to only have to charge once a week. This problem appeared out of the blue a few days ago.
Google mail is the only thing on auto-sync, and this setting has never caused any issues in the past. Thus, I'm not sure why Android System is now suddenly waking up at random when asleep. You can see in the plot that System constantly requires 30% CPU usage once it happens, until I actually turn the device back on.
In addition, my wi-fi sleep policy is set to turn off when the screen is off. Recently, it seems it is always on, even when the device is asleep.
EDIT: The graphs from the OP suggest that our issue might be related, but the problem appears to manifest much more frequently for the OP. Crossing my fingers that next week's update somehow fixes this problem.

LagginTimes said:
I have a similar issue, but my problem is not with Google Maps. Instead, the main battery drain is "Android System." I usually leave my Transformer on standby 24/7 and used to only have to charge once a week. This problem appeared out of the blue a few days ago.
Google mail is the only thing on auto-sync, and this setting has never caused any issues in the past. Thus, I'm not sure why Android System is now suddenly waking up at random when asleep. You can see in the plot that System constantly requires 30% CPU usage once it happens, until I actually turn the device back on.
In addition, my wi-fi sleep policy is set to turn off when the screen is off. Recently, it seems it is always on, even when the device is asleep.
EDIT: The graphs from the OP suggest that our issue might be related, but the problem appears to manifest much more frequently for the OP. Crossing my fingers that next week's update somehow fixes this problem.
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The system process was the same issue on my system as well (didn't show up as google maps). I confirmed that turning off the "Use Wireless Networks" under Location and Security stopped the constant 30% cpu usage when in standby.

After freezing Maps, which is the biggest culprit for me....i noticed, System Process' was way high now.
28%
After doing some searching.... came up with this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16828183&postcount=605
At least for my case.

Google Maps battery drain Solved!
For me, I figured out the issue was Latitude.
I was getting bad battery drain overnight and Google Maps was the largest user by far. I finally signed out of Latitude completely. Battery drain dropped to around 2% (total) overnight! This is acceptable!
As it turns out, Latitude wakes up my device while it should be sleeping in order to update my location and therefore draining massive battery overnight. I'm going to post this as a bug with Latitude/Google Maps because this is causing waaaay too much battery drain.
So it looks like I won't be able to leave Latitude signed in. Once I'm done using it, I will have to sign out of Latitude. This way I can leave Wi-Fi on and set to turn off when the screen turns off. Thereby I get really good battery life again.
On a side note, my phone has the same behaviour, but I never noticed it because I'm usually charging my phone at night. So Latitude...basically...sucks (battery).

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Google Maps draining battery???

Since the new Google maps update, seems like it is number one on my Battery usage list.
47% as my tablet lasted a 1d11h12m of just simply sitting on my desk.
There are numerous threads on this forum about this but before someone says turn Latitude off.....it doesnt seem too help.
Wifi is turned off when screen turns off as well.
I'm trying too see how long i can get this tablet to last without being used but Google maps is not helping the issue lol
Any ideas??
Mikey1022 said:
Since the new Google maps update, seems like it is number one on my Battery usage list.
47% as my tablet lasted a 1d11h12m of just simply sitting on my desk.
There are numerous threads on this forum about this but before someone says turn Latitude off.....it doesnt seem too help.
Wifi is turned off when screen turns off as well.
I'm trying too see how long i can get this tablet to last without being used but Google maps is not helping the issue lol
Any ideas??
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Thank you for this thread, as I was just about to start one of my own. I think we are on exactly the same page because I too wanted to test how long the battery lasts without using the tablet and leaving it in standy mode with the WiFi turning off, but Google Maps is eating through my battery like no other.
Basically, I'm running some tests now. I had massive battery drain overnight while I slept. The tablet would go from 90% down to 50% in an 10 hour period (4%/hr). It didn't matter if it was docked or not docked. I was running Google Maps v5.8.0 and saw some people post that the new version is eating up the battery. So I removed the updates for Google Maps and tried again.
Now I'm running v5.6.1 of Google Maps and the battery went from 100% to 42% in a 17 hour period with absolutely no use (3.5%/hr). I checked battery usage, and Google Maps is at the top and it's taking up 41% of what was used. That's ridiculous.
So now I'm going to install the latest Google Maps and see if this helps at all. I've also attached some screen shots of my latest tests.
Other details:
Wi-Fi is set to sleep when the screen turns off.
MobileDock Battery saving mode is checked.
Use location for Google Search is unchecked.
+1 over here... very very strange... normally when latitude connected it would make i LITTLE bit of sense, but it is off...
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I did another test last night after having updated Google Maps to v5.9.0 (latest). I got the same results. Google Maps is eating through my battery when the tablet should be sleeping.
Here's the results:
The tablet was undocked, and fully charged.
I didn't touch the tablet for 15 hours.
The battery went from 100% to 55% in 15 hours = 3%/hr drain.
Google Maps was largest user of battery at 75%!!
I also did a reboot after I updated Google Maps to v5.9.0.
WTH is going on here?! Anyone have any ideas??
Power consumption
I have no issues with the maps application using power.
Last 2 days, maps have only used about 4% and I've used it on and off, doesn't seem too excessive although a bit much given the usage-time..
It does say that CPU usage is 38min and "kept active" is 1 hour 17min, and only 2min of GPS usage..
Doesn't really match my usage at all but power drain is not bad considering you guys.
To set it in perspective, Navigon has used 8% and I've used that for 5-6 trips of 26km. (keeps crashing randomly, so be sure to be able to activate it again.)
Are you using any apps, that might use the maps app ?
TheTransformer said:
Are you using any apps, that might use the maps app ?
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The only app that I can think of that would be using Google Maps is Google Latitude. Therefore tonight I will be testing the tablet with Latitude turned off and see if this helps at all. I'll post results tomorrow morning.
Would you want to freeze it with Titanium?
RAMBO29 said:
Would you want to freeze it with Titanium?
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I'm not rooted.
Also, I turned off Latitude as best I could last night and still same result. Google Maps is chewing up my battery like no other: from 100% to 52% in 15 hours with zero usage by me. Anyone have any other ideas? Any other apps that might be causing this?
I forget exactly where it is, but there is a setting that mentions improve location accuracy.... If that is checkrd the gps/and or wifi will often start and use up a lot of power.
Traffic widgets?
Does anyone else suffering from this problem have any traffic widgets on their homescreen(s)? I had several, and they show as being in sleep mode (zzz), but I'm having the serious drain problem that others are having.
I haven't had enough time to test this theory, but I've deleted the widgets and killed Maps, and my battery life has been much better over the past 24 hours.
Another question: when people say they're "turning off" Latitude - are you actually signing out of Latitude, or are you simply turning off the Latitude layer?
courtarro said:
Another question: when people say they're "turning off" Latitude - are you actually signing out of Latitude, or are you simply turning off the Latitude layer?
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When I say "turning off" Latitude, initially I've unchecked all the notifications for Latitude, and turned off the layer for Latitude. Stupid me, I forgot to sign out of Latitude. So, tonight I will be testing again with having completely turned off AND signed out of Latitude...
Also, I don't have any widgets on-screen that are showing Maps or Latitude or anything else. Here's the widgets I do have:
Market
Mizuu Movie Lite
Asus Weather Widget
Asus Date Widget
Picture Frame
TF Battery Widget
Google+
Mizuu Calendar
Google Music
Mizuu Agenda
ScubaSteveo said:
When I say "turning off" Latitude, initially I've unchecked all the notifications for Latitude, and turned off the layer for Latitude. Stupid me, I forgot to sign out of Latitude. So, tonight I will be testing again with having completely turned off AND signed out of Latitude...
Also, I don't have any widgets on-screen that are showing Maps or Latitude or anything else. Here's the widgets I do have:
Market
Mizuu Movie Lite
Asus Weather Widget
Asus Date Widget
Picture Frame
TF Battery Widget
Google+
Mizuu Calendar
Google Music
Mizuu Agenda
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I have restore a backup from scratch, before adding all my personal apps with no widgets.
See what happens and ill go from there.
Before i uninstall maps and reinstall it.
Google Maps battery drain Solved!
For me, I figured out the issue was Latitude.
I was getting bad battery drain overnight and Google Maps was the largest user by far. I finally signed out of Latitude completely. Battery drain dropped to around 2% overnight! This is acceptable!
As it turns out, Latitude wakes up my device while it should be sleeping in order to update my location and therefore draining massive battery overnight. I'm going to post this as a bug with Latitude/Google Maps because this is causing waaaay too much battery drain.
So it looks like I won't be able to leave Latitude signed in. Once I'm done using it, I will have to sign out of Latitude. This way I can leave Wi-Fi on and set to turn off when the screen turns off. Thereby I get really good battery life again.
On a side note, my phone has the same behaviour, but I never noticed it because I'm usually charging my phone at night. So Latitude...basically...sucks (battery).

Just hours of "EntriesRefresh_wakelock". Anyone else?

Is anyone seeing this copious amounts of this wakelock too? It's part of the Google Search app and its wakelock has now been active for close to 5 hours now just today and seems to be active for most of the day. This is reported by Better Battery Stats and is seems to be confirmed by high energy usage by the built-in batttery settings app, as Google Search hovers in the mid 20s percentage.
floepie said:
Is anyone seeing this copious amounts of this wakelock too? It's part of the Google Search app and its wakelock has now been active for close to 5 hours now just today and seems to be active for most of the day. This is reported by Better Battery Stats and is seems to be confirmed by high energy usage by the built-in batttery settings app, as Google Search hovers in the mid 20s percentage.
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I got this wakelock overnight after completely disabling location services. My N5 was held awake literally the whole night by this wakelock. This morning I turned back on location reporting and the phone is deep sleeping once again. Very strange. Did you have location service disabled because that seems to be what is causing the wakelock?
I would like to find a solution to this so I can keep location services disabled without completely disabling Google Now for overnight when I can't access a charger.
GoldElocks said:
I got this wakelock overnight after completely disabling location services. My N5 was held awake literally the whole night by this wakelock. This morning I turned back on location reporting and the phone is deep sleeping once again. Very strange. Did you have location service disabled because that seems to be what is causing the wakelock?
I would like to find a solution to this so I can keep location services disabled without completely disabling Google Now for overnight when I can't access a charger.
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Yeah, I have my location services set to "device only", which I guess is the equivalent to the former GPS only. It could be that the GPS is turning itself off and on continually while it's supposed to be sleeping, and the fact that I'm mainly indoors could explain the hours long wakelock.
I set it to GPS only on the Nexus 5, because that was the most battery friendly on the Nexus 4, but the way services now work, it could be the least battery friendly setting.
this is completely confirmed! my note3 wasnt sleeping at all with the new google search 20hrs of no deep sleep with location off and i turned location on and its been sleeping like a dream for the past hour.. Very weird though
Same issue here with my HTC One. I noticed my battery was tanking at about twice the normal rate today, so I just opened up Wake Lock Detector and saw that on about 5.5 hours of use, Google Search had it awake for 4.5 of them. I've just turned on location services to see if that fixes it.
But, I'm with you. I'd rather find a fix that lets me keep location disabled.
Me too. I have a Galaxy4 S4 with 4.3 stock Samsung ROM. WLD shows huge count of EntriesRefresh_wakelock with almost three hours from 12 por off charge.
Confirmed on the lg g2 on 4.3. I disabled Wi-Fi and mobile network location because of the horrible nlp partial wakelocks only to encounter the entriesRefresh wakelock leech. Keeps awake like 90 of the time. I'm going to go back to enable Wi-Fi and mobile location until this is cleared up.
I am unable to even use Google now.. if I enable Location Report it's burning up and running about 20%.. if I disable Location Reporting it's running 50%.. I like Google Now and don't have any use for the location stuff...
Anyone have any updates? My only other option is going to just be to wipe it and keep Google Now unused so it doesn't run at all..
You can try to greenify Google search which contains this wakelock if you have the paid version of greenify (hibernates system apps). They say it's inadvisable to hibernate system apps, but you can override it. I would do a full backup and try it. They refund your money in 3 days instead of 15 minutes if your not happy. I haven't had a chance to try it yet.
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Oddly enough I never had this issue on my nexus 5, but my Nexus 7 is absolutely plagued with just hours and hours of this wake lock as soon as I turn location reporting off.
Same issue here, my N7 is going nuts with this.
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Same issue here, my N7 is going nuts with this.
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This has happened on my N5 before. Force stopping it once I noticed and also rebooting seem to fix it.
I had this wakelock for 2 nights in a row, completely draining the battery BUT
I have location services enabled and GPS is on (I play Ingress all the time and the network loaction gives me a faster lock)
I too noticed this was my top partial wakelock yesterday even though I have location services on. First time I've seen that happen. But it wasn't as aggressive as it was when location services were off.
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Noticed this keeping my Nexus 5 awake 51%, location services were disabled. My Nexus 7 and Moto X also have them disabled and they were only awake 1%. Google Search is showing 60% of the battery but my device has been mostly idle for 4 days now. I'll see if enabling the services helps otherwise I'm not sure what else to attempt.
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Noticed this keeping my Nexus 5 awake 51%, location services were disabled. My Nexus 7 and Moto X also have them disabled and they were only awake 1%. Google Search is showing 60% of the battery but my device has been mostly idle for 4 days now. I'll see if enabling the services helps otherwise I'm not sure what else to attempt.
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I got this wakelock this morning.... "entriesrefresh_wakelock"
my location reporting is off
I love my N5 but god......I'm experiencing battery drain frequently (when I'm not on WIFI) with different wakelocks...
Otherwise the battery life is very good, if google can fix it once for all
I had this problem on my Nexus 5 too. I "fixed" it by uninstalling updates for the Google Search app (you can get there by going Settings>Apps and tapping Google Search). However Google will re-update the app frequently so you will have to repeat the process. Here's hoping another update fixes this problem.
Either disabling Location reporting or Locations all together can get rid of this I believe. Tasker can automatically re-enable it when you leave your wifi zone.

Tricky Idle battery drain problem

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**** I have been performing controlled experiments to the best of my ability. See below for results. ****
Experiment #1: Isolate if this is due to Wifi
Methodology (one test per night)
1. Keep wifi off. Perform a set usage pattern, then keep phone on sleep all night.
2. Perform the set usage pattern using wifi, then keep phone on sleep all night with wifi turned on.
3. Perform the set usage pattern using wifi, then keep phone on sleep all night with wifi turned off.
Results:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50548879&postcount=27
Experiment #2: Isolate if this is due to GPS/Location Services (Ongoing)
Methodology (one test per night)
1. Keep GPS off. Perform a set usage pattern, then keep phone on sleep all night. [This is identical to the WiFi experiment, so there is no need to replicate this]
2. Perform the set usage pattern using WIFI, then keep phone on sleep all night with GPS turned on.
3. Perform the set usage pattern using GPS, then keep phone on sleep all night with wifi turned off.
Results:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50685378&postcount=69
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So, I've been battling idle drain battery problems for a while now . I was unable to make much progress because I did not have visibility into partial wakelocks on the system . So I did what any inquisitive person would, I rooted my phone. Bye bye warranty.
Now that I have root, I am able to see the partial wakelocks in better battery stats. To my partial surprise , I do not see any substantial partial wakelocks that would explain the significant battery drain at night. I have good cellular signal, and wifi signal where the phone is placed.
Any clues?
Almost 25 percent in 9 hours. Also notice the lack of activity between successive awake blips, and the constant battery drain that occurs between them. Before I even got root and was able to look at the partial wakelocks, I had already suspected that there were no wakelocks going on but yet the battery was draining.
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Below are screenshots from the stock battery app showing the top battery drainers and the details of the major ones.
By the way, I would attribute approximately 6 percent of the battery drain due to the screens. I have quite a bit of data that suggests at the brightness levels I was using the screen for those 30 minutes, the drain rate should have been around 12 percent per hour. That still leaves 18 to 20 percent of battery to be accounted for. According to better battery stats, the phone was only awake for around 30 minutes total when the screen was off. And looking at the CPU Lodge, it's clear that those 30 minutes or so were spent in the lowest frequency mode , and that the phone was in deep sleep at all other times.
Attached are the better battery stats logs that shows the partial wakelocks as well. I don't know why the CPU's states are not included in the file but I can assure you I took a look look at it and the 30 or so minutes of awake time were perfectly captured by the 300mhz state.
http://pastebin.com/j685pa5q
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I turned airplane mode on, and left location services on. Battery drain was 2.8%/hr (measured over a 5% battery drain interval) with the phone only being awake for 7min 28sec when the screen was off. There were around 5min of NLP wakelocks, and some other miscelaneous ones. I don't think that explains the battery drain fully.
Then, I turned off location services, and the battery drain has been 1.7%/hr (measured over an 8% battery drain interval) with a total awake time of 5 mins, and of that only 1 min of awake time when the screen was off. Very few to no wakelocks.
What is wrong? Why is the battery draining at ~2%/hr with airplane mode on, location services off, and the phone being in deep sleep pretty much the whole time!?
Hey I'm trying to find if there of a pattern with the battery drain and the battery voltage (mv) .I slightly have the felling the battery is a bit wonky . Could you check the battery voltage while charging just before 100% and the voltage when it has fully charged ? .. Try the code *#*#4636#*#*
I feel the my peak battery voltage has dropped significantly over the last 2 weeks.
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I have the same problem with mine, no clue what the problem is, I turned off location services and I dont use 3g at all, only wifi while at home or other places sometimes, but the drain persists, still dont know what to do
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Try a Cache wipe in recovery - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2634361
neu - smurph said:
Try a Cache wipe in recovery - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2634361
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I don't think a cache wipe is the solution. For example, see the updated battery settings screenshot below. The flat line at the end is the result of just rebooting the device (no cache wipe). The battery is no longer draining constantly, even though the same services are activated.
I'm the OP of the thread that I think first reported this issue. Note that I found that the drain is noticeable in airplane mode as you expect there to be almost zero drain, however it still happens when not in airplane mode as well, you just notice it less as the device is doing other stuff which all adds up to battery drain.
I think there is a driver bug, most likely a WiFi driver bug or possibly GPS driver bug. For example maybe GPS is somehow constantly active but the bug manifests itself in such a way that this is not reported to the OS itself which is why you do not see it active in the battery screen .
I had the exact same issue as reported above, no wakelocks over and above the normal amount but the drain was 3% hr or so. A reboot fixed it but it would reoccur when i connected to another WiFi network.
A factory reset fixed it completely until a few weeks ago when I was on the road and used GPS. That night I had the battery drain issue again.
So whether its WiFi or GPS that's the cause I don't know, and why, for me, did it stay fixed for so long. I also can't remember if I had GPS switched on when I first had the issue before the factory reset so makes it harder for me to determine the cause.
The above was all on 4.3. I've now upgraded to 4.4.2.
I think the only way to debug will to be to pull off all the various logs from android, you may even need to turn on various debugging/logs from the OS to capture more logs. I'm pretty sure you wont diagnose from just looking at wakelocks and battery screens.
If you can recreate this problem, and sounds like some of you have it a lot, then you are in a good position to get the logs.
BTW does anyone use the BBC weather app, I noticed this caused a LOT of NLP wakelocks so don't think its related but I did notice on 4.4.2 that it drained battery fast so I uninstalled. There is a thread in xda that I started about it.
A poster above says to clear cache, this is normally pointless as /cache will usually contain nothing except a few empty folders and a couple of log files. Also clearing cache means a reboot which temporarily fixes the issue anyway.
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I'm the OP of the thread that I think first reported this issue. Note that I found that the drain is noticeable in airplane mode as you expect there to be almost zero drain, however it still happens when not in airplane mode as well, you just notice it less as the device is doing other stuff which all adds up to battery drain.
I think there is a driver bug, most likely a WiFi driver bug or possibly GPS driver bug. For example maybe GPS is somehow constantly active but the bug manifests itself in such a way that this is not reported to the OS itself which is why you do not see it active in the battery screen .
I had the exact same issue as reported above, no wakelocks over and above the normal amount but the drain was 3% hr or so. A reboot fixed it but it would reoccur when i connected to another WiFi network.
A factory reset fixed it completely until a few weeks ago when I was on the road and used GPS. That night I had the battery drain issue again.
So whether its WiFi or GPS that's the cause I don't know, and why, for me, did it stay fixed for so long. I also can't remember if I had GPS switched on when I first had the issue before the factory reset so makes it harder for me to determine the cause.
The above was all on 4.3. I've now upgraded to 4.4.2.
I think the only way to debug will to be to pull off all the various logs from android, you may even need to turn on various debugging/logs from the OS to capture more logs. I'm pretty sure you wont diagnose from just looking at wakelocks and battery screens.
If you can recreate this problem, and sounds like some of you have it a lot, then you are in a good position to get the logs.
BTW does anyone use the BBC weather app, I noticed this caused a LOT of NLP wakelocks so don't think its related but I did notice on 4.4.2 that it drained battery fast so I uninstalled. There is a thread in xda that I started about it.
A poster above says to clear cache, this is normally pointless as /cache will usually contain nothing except a few empty folders and a couple of log files. Also clearing cache means a reboot which temporarily fixes the issue anyway.
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Thanks you very much for your reply Scott.
As you can see in my troubleshooting, I eventually turned location services and wifi off, but still measured a considerable battery drain. Do you suppose that once you use wifi, or location services after bootup, the effect may remain afterward even if they are switched off? If so, do you agree that if I turn off location services and wifi, then reboot so that the phone boots up with neither - that should be able to verify your hypothesis?
I'll go ahead and try that for a few days and see how it goes. Will report back.
Others have mentioned something to do with the cellular radio power management, and how rebooting and clearing the cache helps with that (apparently this came from a motorola rep...). I've included a data point in this thread where I merely rebooted without a cache clear and the problem went away. So, perhaps the clearing of the cache really does nothing at all ...
If this is a software issue, why aren't all phone with the same software version effected? How are people getting 6-7 days of standby time consistently? Maybe they never use wifi or location services? Well, I intend to test the wifi/gps hypothesis soon .
google+, google now etc caused me a massive battery drain until i greenified them. now i get a solid 2 days and about ~6 hours screen on time.
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google+, google now etc caused me a massive battery drain until i greenified them. now i get a solid 2 days and about ~6 hours screen on time.
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google+, google now etc caused me a massive battery drain until i greenified them. now i get a solid 2 days and about ~6 hours screen on time.
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So that´s exactly what I did, too. Turns out my Moto G is a battery monster, 2 days with average screen time without any problems.
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So that´s exactly what I did, too. Turns out my Moto G is a battery monster, 2 days with average screen time without any problems.
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This thread is specifically about battery drain caused by something unknown, not an app or wakelock, I think we should try to keep it clean by not cluttering with app related issues as that can then be confusing for people who are reading through the thread. Thanks.
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Thanks you very much for your reply Scott.
As you can see in my troubleshooting, I eventually turned location services and wifi off, but still measured a considerable battery drain. Do you suppose that once you use wifi, or location services after bootup, the effect may remain afterward even if they are switched off? If so, do you agree that if I turn off location services and wifi, then reboot so that the phone boots up with neither - that should be able to verify your hypothesis?
I'll go ahead and try that for a few days and see how it goes. Will report back.
Others have mentioned something to do with the cellular radio power management, and how rebooting and clearing the cache helps with that (apparently this came from a motorola rep...). I've included a data point in this thread where I merely rebooted without a cache clear and the problem went away. So, perhaps the clearing of the cache really does nothing at all ...
If this is a software issue, why aren't all phone with the same software version effected? How are people getting 6-7 days of standby time consistently? Maybe they never use wifi or location services? Well, I intend to test the wifi/gps hypothesis soon .
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Well I cant answer all your questions but I will tell you about my test last night. I hardly use GPS at all (and my battery is normal) and last time I did use GPS I had the battery drain as per my post above, so last night I:
1. Drove 15mins from my house.
2. Switched on GPS (high accuracy).
3. Started google maps and drove for 2mins with GPS in use.
4. Shutdown maps app and drove home (GPS still on - ie high accuracy).
5. At home used phone for bit of XDA on wifi for a bit.
6. Switched on airplane mode but location service still on (note airplane mode does NOT switch off GPS), woke up at 02:00AM and noted I had the annoying battery drain - arghhh.
7. Switched off GPS - woke up 2 hrs later and drain still happening.
8. Switch off location altogether - woke up in morning and drain still happening.
9. Rebooted phone and now battery back to normal, Im back on wifi/mobile location (battery saving).
So to me it looks like its maybe related to GPS in some way but whether its purely GPS or a GPS/wigi/location combo I have no idea.
However I have in the past switced on GPS in my house just to play about and havent has the drain, so is it due to a larger change of location when GPS is on (ie 15mins drive from my house) that causes it to go bad.
So annoying, I took a CWM backup before I booted up my phone so I will pull that to my laptop and see if there are any obvious error logs to look at but I doubt it.
Im still leaning towards a driver issue or maybe some component, eg GPS chip, staying alive/awake even when not in use but m sure others have reported they have it with location/GPS off completely. Maybe its even a few different problems.
You said not everyone has the error, but I bet quite a few non-xda people do but do not realise. A lot of people will just charge their phones overnight so wont even realise, during the day they will think ~2% drop per hour is normal. Even if they do notice the drop in airplane mode they probably think thats normal and ignore it.
I think getting Motorola to accept there is an error is going to be almost impossible especially if its hardware related. Also as we have unlocked bootloader I doubt they will even accept a call once they know that.
I think it would be interesting to get a list of phones that are affected, ie model, serial no, location brought, ROM etc. maybe its a certain batch of phones, if we can determine that it would be some help, maybe we could buy one that isnt affected
So to start it off my phone is
XT1032 UK retail brought from Basildon, Essex, UK from phones4u.
Problem happens on 4.3 stock and 4.4.2 stock.
Baseband version is MSM8626BP_1032.340.63.00R.
Im tempted to flash GPE and/or new basenband radio but I bet the same thing happens.
I may see if there is a new GPS driver but no idea how to flash it etc.
Such a shame as this phone is excellent for me otherwise.
Just seen this thread as well, it blames GPS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2607641
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if they're system apps, yeah. totally worth it tho cos you can do maps/fb etc too, also you can allow apps that get push messages to still give you notifications whilst greenified.
e: just to note, i have gps (high accuracy) enabled constantly and still manage 2 days.
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if they're system apps, yeah. totally worth it tho cos you can do maps/fb etc too, also you can allow apps that get push messages to still give you notifications whilst greenified.
e: just to note, i have gps (high accuracy) enabled constantly and still manage 2 days.
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Maybe you can help test if you don't mind.
1. Use Google maps with high accuracy when you go out for 5mins or so.
2. Once home use phone as normal on WiFi for a bit, just 10mins will be enough.
3. Take note of battery percent.
4. Switch on airplane mode for 2hrs - DO NOT USE PHONE during this time.
5. After 2hrs take note of battery percent.
6. Report the battery percents recorded in this thread.
If you can do this we would be grateful.
Let us know your phone model, where purchased, ROM etc.
Thanks.
Hi,
Following this MotoG thread for some time I have to admit that my MotoG also has the same issue from time to time.
This is the reason now that I joined XDA because this issue is a real pain.
Having my MotoG for three weeks now I had to restart it four or five times to get rid of the excessive battery drain.
My MotoG (XT1032) is bought in the Netherlands, unlocked, rooted, CWM and stock ROM.
I did remove some Motorola apps and disabled some.
Because of the last remarks that it seems to be GPS related, I want to let you know that it also happened to me without using the GPS.
Yesterday it happened at school, at first the drain was not present but suddenly it started.
In the between the two situation I only checked my mail through Wifi and checked some news.
My MotoG has Wifi always on, bluetooth off, GPS off.
There must be something more than just GPS which causes this drain.
Hopefully we can find the root cause soon.
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Hi,
Following this MotoG thread for some time I have to admit that my MotoG also has the same issue from time to time.
This is the reason now that I joined XDA because this issue is a real pain.
Having my MotoG for three weeks now I had to restart it four or five times to get rid of the excessive battery drain.
My MotoG (XT1032) is bought in the Netherlands, unlocked, rooted, CWM and stock ROM.
I did remove some Motorola apps and disabled some.
Because of the last remarks that it seems to be GPS related, I want to let you know that it also happened to me without using the GPS.
Yesterday it happened at school, at first the drain was not present but suddenly it started.
In the between the two situation I only checked my mail through Wifi and checked some news.
My MotoG has Wifi always on, bluetooth off, GPS off.
There must be something more than just GPS which causes this drain.
Hopefully we can find the root cause soon.
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Thanks for your reply, have you confirmed this drain happens when in airplane mode as well and that no wakelocks occur, no unusual statistics in battery screen etc. I ask as some people say they have the issue but then say they have greenified an app etc to stop it which basically means they dont have the issue at all. Im not saying I dont believe you, far from it, I just want to confirm its exactly the same issue as a few of us are seeing. Next time can you NOT reboot but leave phone in airplane mode for a few hours and DONT use it at all, then see if battery has gone down by 2-3% per hour.
Thanks.
Have not used airplane mode to check it, but will sure do this when it happens next time.
What I observed in battery stats was a high percentage of android-os.
I have not used greenify so far.
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Have not used airplane mode to check it, but will sure do this when it happens next time.
What I observed in battery stats was a high percentage of android-os.
I have not used greenify so far.
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Doesn't sound like the same issue if android OS shows high in battery stats. That sounds more like a wakelock issue of some kind which still means you may get drain in airplane mode but for a different reason.
This thread is specifically for the problem of ALL battery stats looking normal, so android OS doesn't show up as high.
I think your best get is to root and install 'wakelock detector' app and you will probably see some high wakelock for android OS.
Thanks for your post on the Motorola forums Scott. It was well written, and to the point. I hope this issue gets the attention it deserves. I'll be reporting in the next few days with my experiments.
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Doesn't sound like the same issue if android OS shows high in battery stats. That sounds more like a wakelock issue of some kind which still means you may get drain in airplane mode but for a different reason.
This thread is specifically for the problem of ALL battery stats looking normal, so android OS doesn't show up as high.
I think your best get is to root and install 'wakelock detector' app and you will probably see some high wakelock for android OS.
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Sorry to post this wrong condition.
I had the impression that I was suffering the same problem.
Will have a look with a 'wakelock detector' to see if I can tackle the high android-os consumption since I rooted my device already.
Although the issue seems different I will have a good look this morning since I have to use the GPS.
Will keep you informed if I notice something weird.

Something is killing my battery - please advice

Hi guys,
since a few weeks it's the same sh*t with every Omni-Nightly and franco.Kernel.
Everything is working fine for 1-2 day.
But then the cpu usage increases (i don't see any reason) and won't go back to idle again.
I tried several cpu monitor apps but none is showing me which app is causing this issue.
Please help.
And please don't blame facebook.
My cpu behaves the same way even no facebook app is installed.
If you need further information please tell me.
Thanks a lot for your help!
go to the main phone settings, location, now press google location reporting.. turn off location reporting and location history. your location will still work without these. no go back to the location option, and turn the mode to battery saving.
simms22 said:
go to the main phone settings, location, now press google location reporting.. turn off location reporting and location history. your location will still work without these. no go back to the location option, and turn the mode to battery saving.
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i've got this issue since 1 or 2 weeks.
i can say for sure that it's not any location services fault.
leAndroid91 said:
i've got this issue since 1 or 2 weeks.
i can say for sure that it's not any location services fault.
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i see google play services showed up on your battery stats. normally, you wont even see it there, but you are at 71% and so far its taking 6%. its not the location services per se, they work fine with those options disabled. but it is a well known battery drainer.
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i see google play services showed up on your battery stats. normally, you wont even see it there, but you are at 71% and so far its taking 6%. its not the location services per se, they work fine with those options disabled. but it is a well known battery drainer.
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you're right that those services are draining the battery, but in an acceptable way.
when i don't have the isse with the increased cpu usage i've 4-5 hours sot @ 12 hours overall uptime.
so i guess in general everything is working fine on my device.
but i don't know what and why is causing the high cpu usage :crying:
I'm no good at understanding BBS stats, but what is daemonsu?
There seems to be something keeping your phone awake and attributing its drain to "Android OS" which could be many things, including Widgets.
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I could help, but prefer gsam screenshots. Unfamiliar with BBS.
Also, for starters....and please trust me here...just turn location services completely off for one charge cycle and see what happens. Also, Google settings app....go into android device manager and uncheck both options.
See how your full charge goes like that. If its still bad...its an app doing the damage, or a very weak signal.
Try it, and it will narrow down the problem. ?
Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
Option 1. go back to 100% stock Rom see if it behaves the same
option 2. hard reset your phone and check battery usage with no apps installed
option 3. put your phone on airplane mode and see if battery still drains the same way using wifi. Usually if I have bad reception my battery will drain like crazy. My personal experience using my Nexus 5 I can't tell how much my battery is going to last day by day sometimes I get over 12hrs other days I'm lucky if I get 8hrs.

Battery life considerably worse after update to 9.0

OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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Click the three dots in the top right and choose battery usage.
As for battery life, mine has improved greatly on Android P
NickJHP said:
OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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Ok here. 62% drop over night doing nothing suggests you have a rogue app in there. I'm assuming you have ok cellular coverage and nothing has changed there by coincidence. I would reboot and force close every app you have that's not essential overnight and try again. Swipe up from home and clearing those apps doesn't force close the apps. Greenify is an app that (in manual mode) will make it easy to select as many apps as you want and force close the lot of them. If that improves the situation you can then begin to work out which app(s) might be doing bad stuff whilst you sleep...
Battery on my P2 has significantly improved with Pie even if I didn't have any major problem with 8.1 either. Overnight drain 3-4%. After regular use after a full day I easily exceed 5h SOT. Everything stock with just Greenify in non root mode. I couldn't be happier, best Android release so far for me.
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OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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I've had my p2 installed with PIE for about 2 days now. I suggest giving it a week (which is what I'm doing) and then getting a full overview of how my battery is performing. Usually, after any major OS updates, being that apps are trying to utilize your resources and a new version of Android would try to allocate and learn your usage (in this case battery), you'd get a much better definitive idea of your overall performance.
I also think that since its now available, turn on Adaptive Battery mode. After a day of upgrading the OS, Adaptive battery at my 26 hr mark of upgrade said that one of my apps was taking in a lot of resources to be used in the background (ES File Explorer). I made AB to stop ES from taking battery resources.
So in conclusion, if it a week and then you'll be able to get a better overall understanding of whether your battery REALLY has gotten worse or better.
Hope this helps!
Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
Exact same problem here after updating. Even tried a factory reset in case it was an updating issue. Same problem. My battery is currently at 43% 4 hours after a full charge. And I've barely used it. This is really poor.
No new apps installed.
My Oreo battery life was great. I'll try shutting off adaptive battery as suggested - but seems a real shame if one of the flagship battery saving features is doing the total opposite on Google's current flagship phone!
Doesn't seem to be a massively common issue so not sure if a likelihood of a patch either
Just a quick update - Google play services has now become the biggest drain on my battery, just as it was before I factory reset after the first install...
Anyone else had the same?
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Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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I had the same issue and did the same thing... until dp3 and my battery usage was terrible again even with adaptive battery turned off. I ended up turning it on again and after about a week my battery usage was back where it was before. So there doesn't seem to be a magic bullet here. FWIW app usage offered no insight as to what was causing the drain in the first place.
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THIS.
I got like 8+ hours of SOT.... no mobile network though, all day wifi use only.
I have this issue. Dropped about 40% over night. I found that turning wifi off stopped the drain completely. I did not have this problem with Oreo at all so it's not the networks im connecting to. Weird thing is this did not happen when I first installed Pie. This started happening about 3 days into installing. Also, I put it in safe mode and saw the same drain with wifi on vs off.
Hi guys,
I seem to have fixed my terrible battery life!
The below might be worth a try if you're still suffering from it.
I noticed in GSAM that RCSphone was the front runner in battery drain so did a little research and found this site.
SOLUTION: Turn off app preview messages (settings / google / app preview messages). Apparently its only function is to allow Allo messages to be received without the app. To me, totally pointless as i don't know - nor have ever met - a single person who uses it.
I've gone from draining 8-10% an hour (screen off) to around 2.5%/hour and from 1hr 35 total SOT to 3hrs 39 minutes with 32% left (and an hour of that was Google maps navigating, so a proper work out for the phone).
Do give it a try and let me know if it works for you.
Although there's room for improvement (idle 2.5%/h seems high to me!) and it's ludicrous that I should have spent several hours finding a fix for this on 100% stock android, I'm very happy to have a usable battery life back again...
Adam.
UPDATE: Seems like in the night I lost 40% again. Idle drain climbed it's way up to 5.6% in the night. Still an improvement from where it was before, but not quite as good as it first appeared...
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Ok here. 62% drop over night doing nothing suggests you have a rogue app in there. I'm assuming you have ok cellular coverage and nothing has changed there by coincidence. I would reboot and force close every app you have that's not essential overnight and try again. Swipe up from home and clearing those apps doesn't force close the apps. Greenify is an app that (in manual mode) will make it easy to select as many apps as you want and force close the lot of them. If that improves the situation you can then begin to work out which app(s) might be doing bad stuff whilst you sleep...
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@Burkules I drop 0.4 - 0.7%/hr over night with Bluetooth off/Wifi on/strong cellular signal. Much the same as it was with Oreo. Not quite sure why's there's such a big range (almost 2x) but either way it's ok for me. Did you try the technique above?
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@Burkules I drop 0.4 - 0.7%/hr over night with Bluetooth off/Wifi on/strong cellular signal. Much the same as it was with Oreo. Not quite sure why's there's such a big range (almost 2x) but either way it's ok for me. Did you try the technique above?
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Cheers for getting back on this.
I left it on safe mode the other night and it still drained absurdly fast, which suggests to me it's a google system drain rather than rogue app, but will try again with app preview now switched off. Likewise will try greenify again and report back.
Burkules said:
Cheers for getting back on this.
I left it on safe mode the other night and it still drained absurdly fast, which suggests to me it's a google system drain rather than rogue app, but will try again with app preview now switched off. Likewise will try greenify again and report back.
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Likewise maybe app preview set to off will help me even more. If I recall correctly rogue apps can cause some google system apps to wake up, but perhaps not in safe mode...
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Likewise maybe app preview set to off will help me even more. If I recall correctly rogue apps can cause some google system apps to wake up, but perhaps not in safe mode...
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So, switched off adaptive battery again (i'd enabled it after my short-lived miracle recovery the other day) and now I'm down to 4%/hour. Which is better but still really high for idling! Cleared cache and data in Google play services for good measure too as it still comes up super high on the list of battery drainers.
Booting into safe mode now to check the drain without adaptive there and will report back...
UPDATE: Exactly the same drain in safe mode. This is a straight up google problem....
Burkules said:
So, switched off adaptive battery again (i'd enabled it after my short-lived miracle recovery the other day) and now I'm down to 4%/hour. Which is better but still really high for idling! Cleared cache and data in Google play services for good measure too as it still comes up super high on the list of battery drainers.
Booting into safe mode now to check the drain without adaptive there and will report back...
UPDATE: Exactly the same drain in safe mode. This is a straight up google problem....
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Have you tried to force close every app you've downloaded too?
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Have you tried to force close every app you've downloaded too?
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Haven't tried this - but if the battery drain is the same in safe mode (with only google/system apps running) I can't see how it will make a difference. Ill be in rehearsal for several hours today so will force close everything and will then be leaving my phone idling for a few hours anyway.
I signup up to the google play services beta yesterday, and google play services no longer appears as one of the top battery users... but the battery drain is the same and the numbers given in *all* battery apps (Gsam/accubattery/system) don't add up to anything close to the actual % drain. System battery displays 15% of usage (with 'full device usage' on show) when the battery is quite evidently at 48% from full charge. Total cluster****. So pissed off I updated.
Have you seen any improvement in yours with any of these workarounds?
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Haven't tried this - but if the battery drain is the same in safe mode (with only google/system apps running) I can't see how it will make a difference. Ill be in rehearsal for several hours today so will force close everything and will then be leaving my phone idling for a few hours anyway.
I signup up to the google play services beta yesterday, and google play services no longer appears as one of the top battery users... but the battery drain is the same and the numbers given in *all* battery apps (Gsam/accubattery/system) don't add up to anything close to the actual % drain. System battery displays 15% of usage (with 'full device usage' on show) when the battery is quite evidently at 48% from full charge. Total cluster****. So pissed off I updated.
Have you seen any improvement in yours with any of these workarounds?
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Nothing to lose by trying. And as I said, Greenify makes it easy/quick to do. Force closing is almost as good as uninstalling those apps as the vast majority of installed apps won't restart or run in background until you use them for the first time again. In my experience, quiescent battery consumption (e.g. noticed over night):
Is vastly affected negatively by poor cellular signal strength. Marginal coverage can really drain the battery fast.
Gradually gets worse between reboots
Can be improved (once it degrades) if you force close all the apps you've installed, and swipe away the background apps just before you go to bed!
If quiescent consumption suddenly rises I can normally fix it by force closing all the apps (not being sure which was the one gone rogue/suddenly misbehaving)
At night I generally have excellent cellular coverage, good WiFi, and Bluetooth is off. NFC is always off
I don't enable sync on 2 of the 3 Gmail accounts I have configured
I disable notifications from any apps I don't actually need them from
Quiescent battery consumption is between, say, 0.4% and, 0.7%/hr at home, around 2 to 3%/hr when out and about which I put down to all background data being driven over 4G instead of Wifi, and variable cellular coverage
I've not noticed quiescent battery consumption change between Oreo and Pie, but this may be because I keep force closing apps at night and not giving adaptive battery (which I have on) a chance to have the same effect intelligently
Turning off app preview messages has made no practical different for me
I'm completely stock (stock launcher, not rooted, etc.)
If you can't fix it, at least a factory reset as the next experiment has the option to restore *most* of what was there before (so long as you have had the backup setting enabled). But because not everything is restored it's still a pain. And if that doesn't work it's another factory reset and test and then restore everything manually and gradually :-S. But I think you already tried that?
Burkules said:
Hi guys,
I seem to have fixed my terrible battery life!
The below might be worth a try if you're still suffering from it.
I noticed in GSAM that RCSphone was the front runner in battery drain so did a little research and found this site.
SOLUTION: Turn off app preview messages (settings / google / app preview messages). Apparently its only function is to allow Allo messages to be received without the app. To me, totally pointless as i don't know - nor have ever met - a single person who uses it.
Thanks, just tried that as well and my battery has stayed resolutely at 68% on idle beside me for the last few hours, previously it had gone from 100% down to 69% in about 4 hours whilst similarly doing nothing.
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