Just got new A53 5G,
My usual running track is 550 meters. But when I put A53 in my pocket (be it coat, jacket anything) it records as 430m. You can see the difference between in hand, and in pocket. I never had this problem with other phones.
Do you think it is normal?
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I can get a Tab S2 from t-mobile or a used Note pro from ebay or something...The screen real estate of the note pro is enticing. they both have 3GB or ram, but the s2 is Octa-core. Not much use for the S-pen when I had a regular Note, but occasionally used it. I know the note pro has been out for a while, just wonder how future proof it is. is the quad-core snap 800 enough?
The difference between a Tab S2 Exynos Octa and a NotePro Snapdragon Quadcore is in what you intend to use it for.
CPU: Cores can't be merged or share speed. The max speed of a single core is all it can achieve.
The Exynos has a Quad-core 1.9 GHz and a quad-core 1.3 GHz, together making it an Octacore. (It's not a real Octacore, just two Quads on different speeds.)
The Snapdragon has four cores less, but those remaining four are 2.4 GHz each.
So if an app requires 2.1GHz, the Exynos can only supply 1.9GHz. Doesn't matter how many cores it has, they're not going to powerranger themselves into a giant 7.6GHz core. (Oh, how I wish they could do that....)
In my experience the Snapdragon 800 is still one of the most powerful chips in the market.
GPU: Keep in mind that an Exynos always comes with a low-end Mali GPU, and a Snapdragon comes with a high-end Adreno. If you plan to game or render 2K/4K films, you'll find the Mali to be insufficient. If you don't, it is entirely irrelevant. (It's basically the whole IntelHD vs Nvidia Geforce story.)
Batterylife. If you want it to last very long, go with the 9500mAh NotePro. If you intend to charge it every (other) day anyway, the 4000mAh Tab S2 is more than sufficient.
My NotePro (the Snapdragon version) lasts around 80 days in standby, or 25 hours of 1080p bingewatching. Doesn't mean they all do, I'm a bit of a controlfreak, but I do run Stock.
Screen. The Tab S2 has an AMOLED screen. Deeper colours, true black. The NotePro has an LCD screen, which means no true back and a bit more natural colours. (AMOLED on a 12.2" screen would make the device around 2000 quid, which is why they used LCD.)
On a second note regarding screen, the Tab S2 is 4:3, whereas the NotePro is 16:10. If you intend to use it for films and series, you'll find quite a bit of letterboxing(big black bars) on the Tab S2 as films and series are always in 16:10.
Oh, if you read comics or magazines, the NotePro screen is the exact size of a page. (In Europe where A(4) is the standard, anyway)
Weight. The NotePro is a beast, but it weighs like one, too. It's fairly light for its size (750 grams), but the Tab S2 is a whole 500 grams lighter. (270 grams). If you intend to carry it with you a lot, that might matter.
(It never did to me, as I used it to replace the 5kg laptop I lugged about, but not everyone favours usability over weight. I'm the (proud)weirdo who'd rather extend her jeans pockets than buy a smaller phone. (Note 3.) :silly: )
Size. The Tab S2 is small enough to fit inside a regular bag. The NotePro has the size of an A4 paper, meaning you'll need a bigger bag. On the other hand, a bigger screen means bigger screen realestate. The bigger screen also allows 4-way Multiwindow, instead of 2.
Futureproof hardware wise: The Snapdragon variant is literally a Note 3 with a bigger screen, so as for future proof.. The Note 3 is about equal to the Note 5 in terms of performance.
I expect it to run strong for about 4-5 more years, if the innovation remains as stuck as it is. (Most devices are actually a step backwards these days)
Futureproof Software wise: In terms of official firmware updates, you're better off with the Tab S2. The NotePro is a very niche model, and it's passed its maximum support age of 18 months, so it won't be getting any more updates, and it's not getting 6.0.
The Spen... It's a personal preference. The one in the NotePro is bigger than the one in the regular Notes, but the tech is the same. Pen Window, which allows you to draw resizable, floating apps anywhere on the screen( and with root every app can be enabled), is absolutely brilliant, and the pen keeps smudges off your screen.
But unless you're an artist and/or need the pressure sensitivity, that's where the advantages stop. Every other task can also be done with a regular stylus.
If you are an artist or a designer, you can use the NotePro as a Wacom drawing tablet (using a free app), which is bloody useful.
So, long answer short:
If you
+ Intend to do a lot of multitasking lighter tasks
+ Prefer a more manageable size and weight
+ Want a more beautiful screen
+ Want to receive future software updates
+ Want a more 'on the go/everyday use' tablet
- Don't need ages of battery life,
- Don't mind 4:3 or a smaller screen
The Tab S2 is the way to go.
If you
+ Intend to game/run heavy apps
+ Watch a lot of films
+ Intend to use it as a laptop replacement/for productivity
+ Want a bigger screen
+ Need longer battery life
+ Want an Spen
- Don't care much about updates
- Don't care about its weight and dimensions in terms of handling
The (Snapdragon) NotePro might be more your thing.
Unfortunately my Note Pro fell and I had to replace it. I got the S2 and it is a smaller screen at 9.7. super light weight (by comparison to the note pro !) and updated to 6.01.
The fingerprint recognition was pretty fast, and I thought I could just live with the smaller screen. Then I watched a movie. Huge letterboxing.... like really big. I dont like the 4:3.
Back in the box it goes, I am returning it and bought another Note Pro 12.2
Hi folks, I recently bought the ZenFone 7 Pro, I could see that it has a somewhat out of curve consumption, I drew these conclusions comparing with my Motorola Edge Plus where it has a stand by much more efficient than his and also a management in the cores. Another point that I would like someone to test to see if it’s not just me, the game Genshin Impact after 3-8 minutes of departure the game starts to give absurd dropframes (something that my edge plus and s10 lite could run without presenting this type of situation) someone else with the same performance problem? And apparently the device gives a lot of thermal throttling.
If any of you have the same problem, we have to knock on Asus' door and ask for a solution on top of that.
I put two prints of the motorola edge plus, one related to the use of the CPU with nothing open and the other of the thermal throttling test.
I mean, for hardcore gaming I'd say one would be better off with an IPS display (like Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro). Just because of the burn-in possibility. But, that phone would also throttle most likely. I have one, but yea I hate games for Android - I play games via emulator all the time (and cloud gaming).
High-end SOC in phones will always thermal throttle unless you purchase a gaming phone like an ASUS ROG, or Black Shark, or whatever else. These chips produce a huge amount of heat that needs exceptional cooling.
Even high-end phones just don't have enough cooling to deal with the sustained heat load coming of these chips. To name a few: so, for example, Zenfone 7 Pro, OnePlus 8 Pro/8T, S20 FE. And the Zenfone 7 Pro uses a binned, even faster CPU (865+).
Keep in mind that IF the game is FPS locked to refresh rate and the other phone was 60hz, then your Zenfone 7 has to push +30FPS resulting in way more heat. (60 vs. 90)
Basically, there is a lot involved.
I'd limit FPS to 60 if possible as starters.
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I mean, for hardcore gaming I'd say one would be better off with an IPS display (like Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro). Just because of the burn-in possibility. But, that phone would also throttle most likely. I have one, but yea I hate games for Android - I play games via emulator all the time (and cloud gaming).
High-end SOC in phones will always thermal throttle unless you purchase a gaming phone like an ASUS ROG, or Black Shark, or whatever else. These chips produce a huge amount of heat that needs exceptional cooling.
Even high-end phones just don't have enough cooling to deal with the sustained heat load coming of these chips. To name a few: so, for example, Zenfone 7 Pro, OnePlus 8 Pro/8T, S20 FE. And the Zenfone 7 Pro uses a binned, even faster CPU (865+).
Keep in mind that IF the game is FPS locked to refresh rate and the other phone was 60hz, then your Zenfone 7 has to push +30FPS resulting in way more heat. (60 vs. 90)
Basically, there is a lot involved.
I'd limit FPS to 60 if possible as starters.
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I agree with you on certain points, but on others I disagree. If you look at the Samsung Galaxy S10 Lite and Motorola Edge Plus, both have the same cooling system compared to ZenFone 7 Pro (a copper plate with thermal paste, S10 lite has only the copper plate without thermal paste, just look for videos "teardown"). Apart from Zen 7, the Motorola edge plus runs this game perfectly and does not have all the conditions that the Black Shark 3 has for cooling, same happens with s10 lite ... on the s10 lite I recorded a 1h video running this game and without thermal throttling heavy or draining the battery. As for the Zenfone 7 Pro, I'm sure Asus didn't optimize the kernel well, besides giving a lot of thermal throttling to the genshin impact, its standby is horrible (which is justified by the CPU oscillations in the print that I posted and you can see compared to edge Plus) 6h I left it quiet, it went away 3.5% of the battery, while on edge plus it was 1%. I asked people to test it, just to be sure of the presence of this bad optimization.
So some reviewers are saying the S22 line gets hot when doing extensive tasks or gaming. I know this was a huge concern on the S21 line because the Snapdragon 888 ran very hot but Samsung seemed to do well cooling it down. The Moto X30 with the same chipset is said to be getting very hot. There is already talk of Qualcomm quickly replacing the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 with a Plus model produced by TSMC for better efficiency. I'm hoping Samsung beefed up cooling measures and this is a non issue.
Wait a few months for the dust to settle.
I'm seeing warning signs already with this model.
Time will tell.
Either way though it lacks expandable storage and that automatically red flags it for me.
I can't speak for mine as I haven't received it yet. I have one of these to help mitigate that possibility.
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So some reviewers are saying the S22 line gets hot when doing extensive tasks or gaming. I know this was a huge concern on the S21 line because the Snapdragon 888 ran very hot but Samsung seemed to do well cooling it down. The Moto X30 with the same chipset is said to be getting very hot. There is already talk of Qualcomm quickly replacing the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 with a Plus model produced by TSMC for better efficiency. I'm hoping Samsung beefed up cooling measures and this is a non issue.
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Snapdragon SoC's have been manufactured in Samsung and TSMC Foundries. Given a choice stick with TSMC, it's got the right stuff!
I’ve had the phone for 3 days and everything seems great so far. Given that Samsung produced the chips, they likely implemented a strong cooling method as well.
2 years have gone by and my OnePlus 7T Pro despite its gorgeous full-screen display and privacy pop-up camera is disappointing me. I have 5G coverage now, want a 120 Hz display, AOD and a better camera. It served me well since April 2020 but the lack of software support, OnePlus' direction and other things pushed me away.
I tried to decide between the S21 Ultra and the Pixel 6 Pro, but the Pixel's software issues, lack of a macro camera and other little things made me choose the S21 Ultra.
Now to the real thing
At our retail store MediaMarkt I could get the S22 Ultra 256GB for € 1249 (instead of € 134) + Galaxy Buds Pro that I could sell. But only until February 24th. The S21 Ultra 256 GB is € 1099 new and € 980 used but like new. 128 GB is not an option (especially due to 8 GB RAM on the S22 Ultra).
I consider the S-Pen a gimmick I might use every now and then but not a deal breaker.
I don't really like curved displays so the less the better.
I struggle between having a tested phone with mostly stable software vs. being early adopter. Also the S22 Ultra is going to get Android 13 faster and longer support.
I'm not sure how comfortable the boxy design of the S22 Ultra is as my last boxy design was the iPhone 5 probably
The price difference by selling the Galaxy Buds Pro would be something like € 1170 vs. € 1099 (but the S21 Ultra will drop in price soon I guess). In the best case scenario it would be € 80 price difference. It truly is tempting but I'm hesistant on pulling the trigger. If I were to do it, I would receive it on March 12th with a 14 day return window.
I could try the S22 Ultra in store already and will do so again tomorrow. Maybe someone has some arguments and valid points to make or was in the same position I am now. Feel free to also tell me why you pulled or didn't pull the trigger.
(Also due to bootloader unlocks, warranty, import and other factors, I am only considering the Exynos variants of both devices. If it turns out rooting is kind of an issue, I would go S21 Ultra either way as I do not have any time to deal with using the stock software and wiping weeks later to finally being able to root).
I particularly have not and will not pul the plug on my order, honestly I had the N20U and S21U and I liked the N20U design more but loved the S21 specs. For me the S22U is a winner combining both phones. I know there will be bugs but the same happened with S21 Ultra and it's just a matter of being patient.
I do use the SPEN with no issues (favorite feature of the note of course).
For anyone else wondering: I've decided to go with the S21 Ultra. I've got both and tested them.
There were several reasons (keep in mind I'm coming from a OnePlus 7T Pro):
No important use-case for the S Pen for me (I got a € 26 used one for the S21 Ultra and will keep it in my backpack)
Display brightness is the same. The only difference is that the S22 Ultra allows a higher manual brightness but even when adaptive brightness is off, both S21 Ultra and S22 Ultra will detect a high ambient brightness and ramp up the extra mile despite not having adaptive mode on. There is no reason for me to manually trigger it in moderate lit environments.
The S22 Ultra is a bit wider and its boxy shape makes one handed use almost impossible while with the S21 Ultra it is possible for me.
I got the S21 Ultra for € 900 "like new" meaning it has been opened and then returned. The S22 Ultra would be at least € 1150 even with selling the Galaxy Buds Pro.
Exynos 2100 vs 2200 in my tests was hilarious. Single core performance in Geekbench on the S22 Ultra was very low sometimes and the device got hot (already installed the day one patch though. CPU were almost the same only OpenCL was better with the S22 Ultra. A CPU stress test running for 15 minutes resulted in 2% average difference but the S21 Ultra wasn't dropping as quickly and had higher results when throttling.
I did have some stuttering and lagging when apps were installed in the background or while the CPU is doing something in the background. This doesn't happen with the S21 Ultra. It seems like the Exynos 2200 has issues with multiple tasks. This could be fixed with an update I guess, but I don't buy a device in the hopes that it will be fixed in the future. If it were a hardware issue, I'm very much out of luck.
If I get my pre-order device from Samsung's online shop, I definitely shouldn't root it right away as it wouldn't terminate the warranty in Europe, but certainly the 14 day return window. I don't want to test the device for a few days or even set it up just to wipe it again.
Only thing that I couldn't confirm is that the S22 Ultra has a high AOD idle drain. The battery drain with AOD was the same at 1.1%/h and about 0.3–0.5%/h without AOD.
In the end I thought: is the € 300 price difference worth it? My answer was no. Deciding between both devices when the S21 Ultra is about € 1099 and the S22 Ultra € 1212 - Galaxy Buds Pro (I had a 10% coupon) would be another story. But saving € 200 for a 14 day return device is a good deal in my opinion and brings me closer to realistic phone prices. 2 years ago I struggled to pay € 750 for the OnePlus 7T Pro. Paying over € 1000 or even € 1200 is simply too much.
It's odd that the higher the prices are, the higher the tolerance for price differences become. If I were to decide between a € 300 and a € 600 phone, I would be much more hesitant to buy the expensive one while something like € 1100 and € 1400 suddenly becomes less of an issue. It's still a lot of money even though the proportion is different. Maybe this thread and post helped someone decide. Who knows
As a budget phone owner who’s not looking to spend more than $300 (or $400 at most) on a new device, it was with great interest that I saw the recent release of the Samsung Galaxy A23 5G. It has good specs for its price and it seems like it would be a very decent phone all around. So it was with great dismay that I noticed the overall size of the phone... 6.5 inches from top to bottom. Once again...
Is it just me, or is there a significant group of phone owners out there who want phones that actually fit into smaller pockets, don't fatigue the hands, and can be used with one hand when needed? I want a phone, not a tablet or a “phablet”!
When it comes to its S-series, Samsung releases a small version each year, along with a bigger sized “Pro” version, and an even bigger “Ultra” version. But when it comes to the A-series phones, almost every single one of them is bigger than the S22 Ultra! In the recent American A-series model lineup, this applies to the A02s, A03s, A12, A13 5G, A23 5G, A32 5G, and A42 5G, with only the A52 5G and A53 5G being slightly smaller at 6.3 inches. And the S21 FE is only slightly cheaper than the S22. Way above a budget price.
I can’t be the only one who wishes that there were some A-series budget phones whose sizes were similar to the 5.75 inch Galaxy S22, or at least under 6 inches from top to bottom. I was even considering the (6 inch) Pixel 6a until seeing the many reports of its overheating and network connectivity drop issues.
Just as a practical example, Samsung can make a Galaxy "A23s" 5G which can have the same Snapdragon 695 chip as the regular A23 5G. Just the overall phone size (and battery if necessary) will be smaller.
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In light of the above, I call on anyone who would also like such phones to call Samsung’s sales department at 1-855-726-8721 and politely request that they start making such devices, and explain that they will attract many compact phone buyers who can’t afford to shell out $700 or $800, but would be very interested in getting a Samsung A-series phone if only there were smaller options available, just like there is in the S-series.
If Samsung sees that there’s a big enough demand for it, they will start producing such phones so as to reap the earnings from this new customer base!
Please share this page and spread the word far and wide, so that we can get as many people as possible to effectuate this change!
P.S. Leave a comment with any additional ideas that you think may help the cause.