As a budget phone owner who’s not looking to spend more than $300 (or $400 at most) on a new device, it was with great interest that I saw the recent release of the Samsung Galaxy A23 5G. It has good specs for its price and it seems like it would be a very decent phone all around. So it was with great dismay that I noticed the overall size of the phone... 6.5 inches from top to bottom. Once again...
Is it just me, or is there a significant group of phone owners out there who want phones that actually fit into smaller pockets, don't fatigue the hands, and can be used with one hand when needed? I want a phone, not a tablet or a “phablet”!
When it comes to its S-series, Samsung releases a small version each year, along with a bigger sized “Pro” version, and an even bigger “Ultra” version. But when it comes to the A-series phones, almost every single one of them is bigger than the S22 Ultra! In the recent American A-series model lineup, this applies to the A02s, A03s, A12, A13 5G, A23 5G, A32 5G, and A42 5G, with only the A52 5G and A53 5G being slightly smaller at 6.3 inches. And the S21 FE is only slightly cheaper than the S22. Way above a budget price.
I can’t be the only one who wishes that there were some A-series budget phones whose sizes were similar to the 5.75 inch Galaxy S22, or at least under 6 inches from top to bottom. I was even considering the (6 inch) Pixel 6a until seeing the many reports of its overheating and network connectivity drop issues.
Just as a practical example, Samsung can make a Galaxy "A23s" 5G which can have the same Snapdragon 695 chip as the regular A23 5G. Just the overall phone size (and battery if necessary) will be smaller.
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In light of the above, I call on anyone who would also like such phones to call Samsung’s sales department at 1-855-726-8721 and politely request that they start making such devices, and explain that they will attract many compact phone buyers who can’t afford to shell out $700 or $800, but would be very interested in getting a Samsung A-series phone if only there were smaller options available, just like there is in the S-series.
If Samsung sees that there’s a big enough demand for it, they will start producing such phones so as to reap the earnings from this new customer base!
Please share this page and spread the word far and wide, so that we can get as many people as possible to effectuate this change!
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I am about to sell my Dell Streak and three replacements seem to be coming out very shortly.
Samsung Hercules
Samsung Galaxy SII HD
Samsung Note
Right now I am confused on the release dates of each of these items and availability to T-Mobile users. I don't want to get involved in another ATT propriety phone that will have bandwidth issues. Long of it short, when are the release dates on the last two phones, and what are the bandwidths that will be available? Is pricing available on the last two also?
Samsung Galaxy S2 (Hercules) model is true Quad x Quad band
Quad band 2G (Voice/EDGE) + Quad band 3G/4G
so you can really go any where, any network and enjoy both voice and internet at high speed
that is the one coming out Oct 12 at T-mobiles USA for $230, and possibly unlocked with some luck
the Galaxy Note is due out in November sometimes, the phone is gigantic, 5.6" not sure if you want that, might as well get a tablet if it was me.
Samsung Galaxy S2 HD is only going to be release to Korea soon, no words when it will be available in the rest of the world
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Samsung Galaxy S2 (Hercules) model is true Quad x Quad band
Quad band 2G (Voice/EDGE) + Quad band 3G/4G
so you can really go any where, any network and enjoy both voice and internet at high speed
that is the one coming out Oct 12 at T-mobiles USA for $230, and possibly unlocked with some luck
the Galaxy Note is due out in November sometimes, the phone is gigantic, 5.6" not sure if you want that, might as well get a tablet if it was me.
Samsung Galaxy S2 HD is only going to be release to Korea soon, no words when it will be available in the rest of the world
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I knew the Hercules would be a non-issue phone, but I wanna make sure I am getting the best phone for me.
Will the Note be available on T-Mobile bands? The size doesn't bother me, it is similar to a Dell Streak's dimensions and I believe even lighter in weight.
I m also a bit confused on the processor difference between the SII versions and apparently the Hercules has an oddball processor? Is this of real consequence or more nit picking?
it's the latter, people are just nit picking, and being biased by some synthetic bench scores
as for the Note, they have not yet released enough Tech Spec details to indicate the network type
I'm considering getting a note as well, it has its merits for its size, and screen resolution.
makes good for work, without carrying a heavy or large tablet/laptop with you
I think you should go for galaxy S II, its quite cool..
Best decision for you - sony ericsson
Let me make it more complicated for you!!
Samsung has recently announced new generation of Exynos 4212. It uses 32nm fab process and they claim that 50% increase in 3D graphics performance. Has to be more power efficient. No real time tests done yet obviously, but I think we can trust Samsung on hardware internals. They gave 2 stunning SoCs in GS and GS2. Not sure which phone(s) will have this internals.
Add to this they introduced 20nm fab for DDR3 RAM.
Over that add new camera modules. 1/2.3-inch 16 MP CMOS sensor with backside illumination. 1/2.3 should be same like normal point-n-shoot cams. This they claim can shoot 60fps video at 8MP.
No idea which phones will have those. Sure GS3 will have the cam module and DDR. Not too sure about SoC as they are in-line to pump out Q-Core with Mali-T604 GPU.
Choose your poison.
See here:
Samsung Galaxy M12 has a 90Hz display, 6,000mAh battery, and an affordable price tag
Samsung's newly launched Galaxy M12 packs a 6.5-inch 90Hz display, Exynos 850 processor, a 6,000mAh battery, a 48MP primary shooter and more.
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Overall, this phone is nice. Im using it since November and it's awesome.
IMO Samsung has some real issues with bloat and optimization. Aside from the phone being so generic (aside from 90hz and exynos 850 which might as well be another MT G35), I always hated and still hate Samsung's software especially for dumb limitations like no more than 3 fingerprints (this is true for any samsung phone with a fingerprint since the S5) and no adoptive storage (This was the case since Android 6). I can't run it at 60Hz even with a GSI without the phone feeling like it is chugging for CPU. I will say that the enormous battery is amazing but at the same time everyone else is offering a battery of this size. Also while 90Hz at this price point is amazing, I hate the pointless notch that they have and would much rather have a proper and symmetrical bezel instead or at least a hole punch.
I bought one for a family member. I ha e s21 ultra. I think the a52 is a fantastic device. It hardly feels any different to my s21. A few things missing (dex, wireless charging, 100 million x useless zoom etc). For $350 it's outstanding.
To be frank, I was close to chose A52 over S20 FE but S20 FE just head the things that were more important to me and at a given price, the best choice.
However, as someone who used A50 for the last two years, I would recommend anyone to go with A52, rather than A70+ (whatever people say, A50s get much bigger improvement and power with each version than A70s which are more expensive for less gain)
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To be frank, I was close to chose A52 over S20 FE but S20 FE just head the things that were more important to me and at a given price, the best choice.
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I was also choosing between the A52 and the S20 FE.
Picked the A52, it came down to four things:
Price, I could comfortably afford the S20 FE 4G max.
SoC, S720G is weaker compared to the Exynos but it's not as dramatic of a difference as with the S720G vs the S855 or S865 and it's way more battery efficient.
S20 FE's digitizer issues, I'm not spending that much money to have a subpar experience with ghost touches.
Software support, the A52 just launched with Android 11, it'll get one more Android version and a year more of security updates.
I also went for the A52 LTE, I don't care about 5G and the SoC difference wasn't nearly enough to justify the extra cost of the A52 5G.
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I was also choosing between the A52 and the S20 FE.
Picked the A52, it came down to four things:
Price, I could comfortably afford the S20 FE 4G max.
SoC, S720G is weaker compared to the Exynos but it's not as dramatic of a difference as with the S720G vs the S855 or S865 and it's way more battery efficient.
S20 FE's digitizer issues, I'm not spending that much money to have a subpar experience with ghost touches.
Software support, the A52 just launched with Android 11, it'll get one more Android version and a year more of security updates.
I also went for the A52 LTE, I don't care about 5G and the SoC difference wasn't nearly enough to justify the extra cost of the A52 5G.
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The thing is, I don't care about SoC Exynos990 does more than a fine job for me (including gaming, some of which are demanding games, with barely any noticeable difference in performance ) , battery is holding off the entire day which is another thing that is more than enough, considering everything.
Digitizer issues never experienced, as far as I am concerned those are defects a few units had and the majority didn't.
I am not getting hung up on Android OS, since it's covered 3 versions (until android 13), which by that time I will be replacing the phone anyways, with an upgraded model. Or in case I don't for some reason, there will be polished and much better kernel optimized custom roms on XDA that will likely keep up to the latest Android version.
And I had a chance to test A52 in comparison to my choice, guess what? S20 FE 4G just fairs much better, despite so-called subpar SoC and etc in every area. (not benchmarks and etc, the actual real experience). And as for security updates, they will be roll out as part of Google play OS upgrades, pushed from Google mainstream pipeline, so you will never have to worry about security upgrades - even if we don't get major OS updates past 3 Android versions, security updates are no brainer
There is however caveat to all of this. A52 is an incredible budget phone that I would recommend to everyone who is on the verge of buying (especially for those who are upgrading from A50-51). It cuts pretty close to high end model for really affordable price
Hi, I am looking for a smartphone with a display that is at least 7 inches and relatively affordable.
I was hoping to get a Honor X30 Max but that is only for Chinese market. I saw that Huawei had a Mate 20X but that is quite old at this point.
Is there any alternative at this point, or any credible rumor about a similar device coming to European/US markets soon? Thanks.
You can still get a new Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Plus SM-N975U 256GB (FACTORY UNLOCKED) for $800. 4G, 12gb ram variant.
Running on Q. Got one about 3 months ago, it's my second one.
Though its AMOLED display is fixed at 60hz, it's color rendering exceeds many of the newer phones. Supports up to a 1tb SD card.
You can buy used ones for less but you need to be careful, lots of scamming going on.
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You can still get a new Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Plus SM-N975U 256GB (FACTORY UNLOCKED) for $800. 4G, 12gb ram variant.
Running on Q. Got one about 3 months ago, it's my second one.
Though its AMOLED display is fixed at 60hz, it's color rendering exceeds many of the newer phones. Supports up to a 1tb SD card.
You can buy used ones for less but you need to be careful, lots of scamming going on.
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Thank you, not a 7+ inches though. Although not sure how much difference 6.8 vs 7.2 would make in real life.
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Thank you, not a 7+ inches though. Although not sure how much difference 6.8 vs 7.2 would make in real life.
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An AMOLED vs LCD though make a huge difference. The curved screen takes away some space on the R/L but it has other uses with Samsung's. The spen is also very handy to have mostly for Smart Capture and as a remote shutter release.
It's a 2yo phone but I wasn't pleased with how Samsung or Android 11/12 are evolving so I stuck with what works. It's a fun phone.
Whatever you get, get a good case for it...
My carrier just messaged me about their offer for all new Galaxy S22 models with 200€ off from the retail price for S22/S22+ and 250€ off for the S22 Ultra + free Galaxy Buds Pros. With this the S22 Ultra 128GB 5G model would be 1049€, 256GB 5G model 1149€ and the 512GB 5G model 1249€ (all of these are available for interest free payments up to 3 years and the phones are not being bootloader/carrier locked). Is this actually a good offer or should I pass it given that I live in the EU and the model I would get is going to be Exynos 2200 device anyway (which is most likely going to be not as good as the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 variant)?
Hard to say with zero user feedback. Samsung has been having issues with many of their variable rate displays as are most of the manufacturers using this technology.
Right off the get there's no SD card so you better get the 512gb variant. The spen is in an awkward side unless you're a lefty.
You might want the larger Plus size if you want screen real estate to play with.
The Snapdragon question and what the heat sink differences might be if any will be only fully answered in the future.
Samsung should have another flagship release this fall. Personally the S22U isn't giving me any tangible incentives to own it over my N10+'s. Not even a wash; the tradeoffs outweigh the benefits for me.
The N20U was a close and tougher call to make.
2023 may be a better year to buy. I'm pacing it for 2023-2024 if I like what I see.
Both the N10+ and the N20U can be had at good prices. Used and new ones are available but be careful if you do as there's a lot of scamming is going on. The N10+ is still a great phone and both these Notes support up to 1tb of V30 rated storage. The new N10+'s come loaded with 10, the N20U's likely 11. I'm not concerned with updates but if you are factor that in; the N10+'s limit is Android 12, the N20U's is 13 maybe 14(?) I think.
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My carrier just messaged me about their offer for all new Galaxy S22 models with 200€ off from the retail price for S22/S22+ and 250€ off for the S22 Ultra + free Galaxy Buds Pros. With this the S22 Ultra 128GB 5G model would be 1049€, 256GB 5G model 1149€ and the 512GB 5G model 1249€ (all of these are available for interest free payments up to 3 years and the phones are not being bootloader/carrier locked). Is this actually a good offer or should I pass it given that I live in the EU and the model I would get is going to be Exynos 2200 device anyway (which is most likely going to be not as good as the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 variant)?
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I would say it depends on which device you come from.. If you currently have a Note 20 Ultra or S21 Ultra, I would wait a bit before committing. Last year I actually went from Note 20 Ultra to S21 Ultra (I know, stupid), and I regretted it at first but then loved it. If you are coming from an older device, then yeah go for it.