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Camera Lens and being naked?

Do you think the camera lens touches whatever flat surface you pit a naked nexus s down on or is of slightly raised?
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problely does my camera lens cracked

kt6999 said:
problely does my camera lens cracked
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Actually it does not. Look at the back of your phone; there is a slightly raised lip around the camera lens. That lip makes contact with surfaces but the lens does not. Your lens must have been cracked by impact.
Actually it might...Its really f***ing hard to tell where my ghost armor ends and where the battery door starts ><

I think its slightly raised, noticed that the speaker is slightly raised as well, just to make them even with the bulging bottom.

Google Nexus S Body (Back) Skin
You can buy Best Skin Ever screen protector. I bought the back skin and it comes with camera lens skin, which is very easy to apply. As for the back skin, it may differ based on your skill set.

The lens is recessed.

Camera lens protector - Accessory guys, are you reading?

So its very obvious that the camera lens snags on everything and will end up scratched or broken.
I just put an Illumishield protector on the screen and I actually like it, as opposed to other screen protectors. I noticed no noticeable difference in image quality from the front cam when the protector is installed. Would some similar material work on the rear cam lens to keep it from getting all scratched up?
Can someone who knows a guy, who knows a guy, pass the message along to make a nickel sized circle of good quality PET film to stick to that huge camera lens?

gzetski said:
So its very obvious that the camera lens snags on everything and will end up scratched or broken.
I just put an Illumishield protector on the screen and I actually like it, as opposed to other screen protectors. I noticed no noticeable difference in image quality from the front cam when the protector is installed. Would some similar material work on the rear cam lens to keep it from getting all scratched up?
Can someone who knows a guy, who knows a guy, pass the message along to make a nickel sized circle of good quality PET film to stick to that huge camera lens?
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As the LG G2's camera lens is sapphire, I wouldn't be surprised if the N5's camera glass is also sapphire, meaning the last thing you need to worry about is scratching or breaking it.

aznxk3vi17 said:
As the LG G2's camera lens is sapphire, I wouldn't be surprised if the N5's camera glass is also sapphire, meaning the last thing you need to worry about is scratching or breaking it.
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I hope you're right about sapphire, but until this is confirmed, I am gonna assume its cheap glass to go along with the cheap plastic.
I know some people say that the build quality is good, I personally think its a bit subpar, even compared to the N4.
I also realize that to cram these specs into a 400 dollar phone they have to cut corners somewhere.
The camera is underwhelming to begin with, so I am not counting on anything durable as far as the lens goes.

See my thread regarding the camera lens material. Well the camera lens cover. I don't think it's sapphire due to the shear size of it. The G2s is much smaller. Sapphire costs a lot.
Personally I'm going to buy a case so the lens cover is not sticking out miles to be scratched. Poor design choice for sure!!

Let us know what case you end up buying.

Slightly off topic, but for anyone concerned about this be aware that a camera lens protector needs to be severely scratched for it to affect your image quality. A thin scratch even through the center of the lens will not show up in photos.

aznxk3vi17 said:
As the LG G2's camera lens is sapphire, I wouldn't be surprised if the N5's camera glass is also sapphire, meaning the last thing you need to worry about is scratching or breaking it.
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I agree about the scratch resistance (if indeed the N5 lens glass cover is sapphire), but sapphire can break as easily as glass or even easier.
According to Corning (makers of gorilla glass) "Gorilla Glass requires about three times more force to break than sapphire after both materials have received similar wear and tear".

Camera scratches

Even through I always have cases that leave the camera behind I noticed my camera is getting tiny scratches all over. I'm scared at some point it will affect the camera quality so I would like to know if there is some "easy way" to remove those scratches (and safe please)

No way I'm aware of to remove scratches. However, you can buy glass lens protectors (like mini tempered glass screen protectors) for the camera lens of these phones on ebay. They are like two bucks for a three pack.

I tried to get a TGSP for the Camera, but it was plastic, not glass, as claimed and it would not stay affixed.
I got a GadgetShieldz vinyl skin and it seems to be doing a better job and staying put.

lexie90 said:
Even through I always have cases that leave the camera behind I noticed my camera is getting tiny scratches all over. I'm scared at some point it will affect the camera quality so I would like to know if there is some "easy way" to remove those scratches (and safe please)
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You can try this, hope it help you..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/how-to/brasso-remove-scratches-camera-lens-t3672431

I think removing the scratches actually makes more sense than any protection skin, since the skin never covers the viewfield of the camera and only scratches on the lens itself have any impact on picture quality...

Do a search online for: OEM Camera Glass Lens Z2 Play
Camera glass cover is replaceable and available $1.99 online. I picked up several and treat it as a wear item like a screen protector.

cal800 said:
Do a search online for: OEM Camera Glass Lens Z2 Play
Camera glass cover is replaceable and available $1.99 online. I picked up several and treat it as a wear item like a screen protector.
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What is the process for changing?
Heat gun > lift > apply new lens cover > heat gun > press?
Any additional glue needed?

pizza_pablo said:
What is the process for changing?
Heat gun > lift > apply new lens cover > heat gun > press?
Any additional glue needed?
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No glue needed, adhesive included.
youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=4BMZYOEfcDc

hi guys, wich cover gives you that extra thickness to avoid camera scratches when you put phone on a table? spigen? model?

masterchapter said:
hi guys, wich cover gives you that extra thickness to avoid camera scratches when you put phone on a table? spigen? model?
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I've bought the Spigen rugged armor along with the phone since a year. It is not too thick, solid (phone fell 3 or 4 times), and no camera bump ! Never got any scratches

Swarmadd said:
I've bought the Spigen rugged armor along with the phone since a year. It is not too thick, solid (phone fell 3 or 4 times), and no camera bump ! Never got any scratches
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no camera bump mean that camera lens touch table if you put over on that side ?

masterchapter said:
no camera bump mean that camera lens touch table if you put over on that side ?
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No, it means the opposite this case gives a slight extra thickness so it's not in contact.

Swarmadd said:
No, it means the opposite this case gives a slight extra thickness so it's not in contact.
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thanks! I bought it, really amazing case!

Is it possible to remove scratches with buff?

I never had scratches on the camera tbh. Remember, the only thing that's gonna scratch your camera is sand, diamonds or other hard stuff. Metal, wood, plastic etc shouldn't leave scratches.

Tempered glass screen protector Max3

I was looking to get a tempered glass screen protector for Max3 that was fully compatible. The first one I got had the hole for the front camera in the wrong position so I had to send that one back. I then bought this one (which was half the price).
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-X-2-Pa...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
This one has 3 holes in the top and one does match with the front camera, though once matched up the bottom is a little short by ~3mm and the sides aren't too bad but could be a little closer to the edge.
Has anybody come across one yet that does a better job than this.? I've attached some pictures.

Looks good up top but the bottom and those sides are pretty bad. I'm just taking my chances. This device is so cheap I don't plan on keeping it more than a year. Although I do have 4 cases but that's more for preventing scratches on the camera lens.

Wam7 said:
I was looking to get a tempered glass screen protector for Max3 that was fully compatible. The first one I got had the hole for the front camera in the wrong position so I had to send that one back. I then bought this one (which was half the price).
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-X-2-Pa...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
This one has 3 holes in the top and one does match with the front camera, though once matched up the bottom is a little short by ~3mm and the sides aren't too bad but could be a little closer to the edge.
Has anybody come across one yet that does a better job than this.? I've attached some pictures.
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I have this one: LEPHEE For Xiaomi Mi Max 2 Tempered Glass For Xiaomi Mi Max2 Full Protective Film Screen Protector For Xiaomi Mi Max 3 Pro Glass
http://s.aliexpress.com/2EFrMJf6?fromSns=Copy to Clipboard
I has dot matrix and one giant bubble in the middle as it has no adhesive, only on the sides.

I have ordered this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/IMAK-9H-Fu...var=413479984513&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 and I'm waiting for delivery.
Is supposed to have glue on the entire surface and not just on the edges.
I will post my opinion here when I receive.

panospc said:
I have ordered this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/IMAK-9H-Fu...var=413479984513&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 and I'm waiting for delivery.
Is supposed to have glue on the entire surface and not just on the edges.
I will post my opinion here when I receive.
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I would cancel that order if I were you as that one seems exactly the same as the first one I got. If you look carefully you will see the front camera hole cut out is in the wrong position so that you will have glass covering the front camera.

Wam7 said:
I would cancel that order if I were you as that one seems exactly the same as the first one I got. If you look carefully you will see the front camera hole cut out is in the wrong position so that you will have glass covering the front camera.
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I know, the camera will be covered by glass (this is by design, not a mistake), the hole cut out on the right is for the proximity sensor (proximity sensor must be always uncovered to work)

For best touch experience ( Nano coated ) and display visibility: recommend Nillkin Amazing H+ Pro 0.2mm thick!

panospc said:
I know, the camera will be covered by glass (this is by design, not a mistake), the hole cut out on the right is for the proximity sensor (proximity sensor must be always uncovered to work)
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It might be by design but it is not a very good one. As a photographer I know that there are many reasons that you do not want to put an extra piece of glass over a camera lens if you can help it.

I suggest Nillkin for Mi Max 3
I ordered it from TradingShenzen
Its the smoothest and clearest Screen Protector I have ever seen

I order many glass from AliExpress, with border on top and bottom, are bad because remaining air inside.
Now I waiting for niklin glass more expensive but the best

panospc said:
I have ordered this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/IMAK-9H-Fu...var=413479984513&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 and I'm waiting for delivery.
Is supposed to have glue on the entire surface and not just on the edges.
I will post my opinion here when I receive.
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today I received the tempered glass.
It has glue all over the surface, the camera is covered with glass.
After the installation there were some tiny bubbles left but I managed to push them out with my nail.
Before that, I had a similar tempered glass that had glue only at the edges.
Below you can see some side by side images for a comparison with the previous one, iMak is on the right side.
Reflectivity comparison
Fingerprint comparison

panospc said:
today I received the tempered glass.
It has glue all over the surface, the camera is covered with glass.
After the installation there were some tiny bubbles left but I managed to push them out with my nail.
Before that, I had a similar tempered glass that had glue only at the edges.
Below you can see some side by side images for a comparison with the previous one, iMak is on the right side.
Reflectivity comparison
Fingerprint comparison
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Stupid and unnecessary product..why is anyone manufacturing these.
Good thing I noticed this by someone else who said it.
I bought 1 Nillkin and ordered two more tempered glass sheets but from another brand.

Does the Nilkin protector (full or partial) interfere with case use?

MrColdbird said:
Does the Nilkin protector (full or partial) interfere with case use?
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I put one on my phone today and it is perfectly fine and does not affect the two cases that I have tried on my phone.

MrColdbird said:
Does the Nilkin protector (full or partial) interfere with case use?
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My case has thick rubber edges and the CP+ fits fine.

Does nilkin screen protector cover the whole sides? I saw a video of one on youtube that did but the seller doesn't ship to U.S

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Does nilkin screen protector cover the whole sides? I saw a video of one on youtube that did but the seller doesn't ship to U.S
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No this one has a large rectangular notch in the top cut out.
Other brands has individual holes cut out around the camera, sensors etc but nillkin has just one large rectangular hole around this whole area.
Another thing about coverage is that all screen protectors are a little too narrow.
You have to measure out the dead center so it gets placed inside the lcd area otherwise either left or right side will be outside of the screen protector.
Its very difficult to get this dead center.
Also the length is too short creating the next problem.
Plus the top and bottom edge of the screen are slightly rounded so you also have to place it dead center, use the front camera as a reference and place it just a little lower than the bottom edge of the camera.
Otherwise you will get an air bubble either on the top or the bottom edge of the screen protector because of the edge is rounded as I mentioned.
The left and right edge are also slightly rounded but this is not an issue because the screen protector is already too narrow so you don't have to think about this, instead focus on getting the glass on both sides inside the lcd edge.
Image example below shows a profile mockup of the vertical edges: (the rounded edge has a very small angle and is almost invisible..but the bubble is visible and very annoying to look at if you fail to center the screen protector vertically)
I did this with masking tape and a caliper measuring while the screen was on to see where the lcd panel ends horizontally on the left and right side.
Fitting the screen vertically was more of a trial and error because I had no points of reference to use because the screen is black and the edges are black too.
I had to toss three screen protectors trying to make it centered on all axises.
If you buy a tempered screen protector with individual holes for each sensor it is impossible to make a fully centered fit to avoid the air bubble on top of the screen.
This is because if you allow to place it dead center and eliminate the air bubble both on the top and bottom then the holes don't line up for the sensors.
They will be placed around 1 to 1.5mm to low.
Other devices includes plastic guides that you place ontop of the phone so you are sure that the screen protector drops on dead center both horizontally and vertically.
Example in the image below:
Hopefully a guide like this will be available in the future with corrected measurments for the sensor holes or a complete notch such as nillkin does because its very difficult to apply a screen protector on the Mi max 3.
I purchased my screen protectors very early after release so of course it might allow for some early revisions with errors etc that are solved as time goes

anon1135 said:
Does nilkin screen protector cover the whole sides? I saw a video of one on youtube that did but the seller doesn't ship to U.S
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Yes for the CP+ model
No for the Amazing H+ model
Both have full adhesion.
CP+ does look better overall, but camera hole cutouts collect more dust and grime compared to the open notch on the Amazing H+. Also harder to clean within said hole cutouts.
Amazing H+ has slight warping on the edges because of the Max 3 curved glass edges.
For looks, go for CP+.
For practicality, go for Amazing H+

shoukanju said:
Yes for the CP+ model
No for the Amazing H+ model
Both have full adhesion.
CP+ does look better overall, but camera hole cutouts collect more dust and grime compared to the open notch on the Amazing H+. Also harder to clean within said hole cutouts.
Amazing H+ has slight warping on the edges because of the Max 3 curved glass edges.
For looks, go for CP+.
For practicality, go for Amazing H+
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Thx. I was gonna order from tradingshenzhen and nilkin is the only kind they have. CP+ is the one with dot matrix right?

shoukanju said:
Yes for the CP+ model
No for the Amazing H+ model
Both have full adhesion.
CP+ does look better overall, but camera hole cutouts collect more dust and grime compared to the open notch on the Amazing H+. Also harder to clean within said hole cutouts.
Amazing H+ has slight warping on the edges because of the Max 3 curved glass edges.
For looks, go for CP+.
For practicality, go for Amazing H+
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I didn't realise there two different versions so thanks for the info. I've only had the Amazing H, I might give the CP+ a try next time round.

Question Rear cameras material

What material is the glass that protects the rear cameras made of? Thank you.

AndroidAuthority says it's "specialized sapphire glass"
" Around the rear of the Pixel 7, you’ll find the same Gorilla Glass Victus as the front, so there’s not much difference here. Note that, like on most other smartphones, the camera lenses live here, too. You should keep these free from scratches and dirt to ensure you get the best possible picture quality. Also, remember that camera lenses use specialized sapphire glass, which doesn’t share the same durability rating as Gorilla Glass. "
Is the Pixel 7 series durable? We explain how likely it is you'll break it
How sure can you be about the durability of the Pixel 7? Here's what you need to know about this phone's IP rating and materials.
www.androidauthority.com

Dayuser said:
AndroidAuthority says it's "specialized sapphire glass"
" Around the rear of the Pixel 7, you’ll find the same Gorilla Glass Victus as the front, so there’s not much difference here. Note that, like on most other smartphones, the camera lenses live here, too. You should keep these free from scratches and dirt to ensure you get the best possible picture quality. Also, remember that camera lenses use specialized sapphire glass, which doesn’t share the same durability rating as Gorilla Glass. "
Is the Pixel 7 series durable? We explain how likely it is you'll break it
How sure can you be about the durability of the Pixel 7? Here's what you need to know about this phone's IP rating and materials.
www.androidauthority.com
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Thanks! Strange, however, that they are the only ones to talk about it.

Dayuser said:
AndroidAuthority says it's "specialized sapphire glass"
" Around the rear of the Pixel 7, you’ll find the same Gorilla Glass Victus as the front, so there’s not much difference here. Note that, like on most other smartphones, the camera lenses live here, too. You should keep these free from scratches and dirt to ensure you get the best possible picture quality. Also, remember that camera lenses use specialized sapphire glass, which doesn’t share the same durability rating as Gorilla Glass. "
Is the Pixel 7 series durable? We explain how likely it is you'll break it
How sure can you be about the durability of the Pixel 7? Here's what you need to know about this phone's IP rating and materials.
www.androidauthority.com
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Be careful about wording. They said "Also, remember that camera lenses use specialized sapphire glass, which doesn’t share the same durability rating as Gorilla Glass." -- that doesn't mean THIS camera lens, it means camera lenses in general. Also make note of the fact that they said LENS and not "LENS COVER". The camera lenses are those little round things.

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Be careful about wording. They said "Also, remember that camera lenses use specialized sapphire glass, which doesn’t share the same durability rating as Gorilla Glass." -- that doesn't mean THIS camera lens, it means camera lenses in general. Also make note of the fact that they said LENS and not "LENS COVER". The camera lenses are those little round things.
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Yes. Maybe android authority is talking camera lenses material in this case and not lens covers.
Lens cover is maybe corning made or something similar that would not scratch or break easily.

PaulBW said:
Thanks! Strange, however, that they are the only ones to talk about it.
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It's really hard also to find info about this I give up. I think most phones uses corning glass on camera lens covers.

Dayuser said:
It's really hard also to find info about this I give up. I think most phones uses corning glass on camera lens covers.
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I contacted support, they don't know either.
I was wondering why I'm worried about scratching them without protection but with protection I'm afraid of losing image quality.
The OnePlus 6T I used specified sapphire crystal.

Don't know what type of glass is, but I guess it will handle almost the same as the screen or the back.
Anyway, it's better to have it protected.

these two videos leave me with even more doubts, in one it seems scratched by the sandpaper, in the other by the cutter it doesn't

paulomodesto said:
Don't know what type of glass is, but I guess it will handle almost the same as the screen or the back.
Any way, it's better to have it protected.
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these two videos leave me with even more doubts, in one it seems scratched by the sandpaper, in the other by the cutter it doesn't

PaulBW said:
these two videos leave me with even more doubts, in one it seems scratched by the sandpaper, in the other by the cutter it doesn't
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You can't compare sandpaper with cutter blades.
The sandpaper, as you can guess by the name, mostly will have sand on it, and sand it's a very, very, very, hard material, and it can scratch almost all type of glass, unless you have a "glass" made of diamond.
Almost all the cutter blades are made of a soft material compared with Gorilla Glass or other hard glass for example.
The best you can do is protect it with a case or even with some type of skin on it.
The aluminum part of the visor it's even worst, it's a very, very, very soft material, and almost everything will scratch it easily.
If you usually carry it in your pockets, small dust sand particles on it can easily scratch the camera visor and the camera lens protection.

paulomodesto said:
You can't compare sandpaper with cutter blades.
The sandpaper, as you can guess by the name, mostly will have sand on it, and sand it's a very, very, very, hard material, and it can scratch almost all type of glass, unless you have a "glass" made of diamond.
Almost all the cutter blades are made of a soft material compared with Gorilla Glass or other hard glass for example.
The best you can do is protect it with a case or even with some type of skin on it.
The aluminum part of the visor it's even worst, it's a very, very, very soft material, and almost everything will scratch it easily.
If you usually carry it in your pockets, small dust sand particles on it can easily scratch the camera visor and the camera lens protection.
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Thank you very much, you have been very thorough. Obviously I use a cover and it doesn't bother me to think that the metal part can be damaged, the only fear is the glass for fear of losing photographic quality