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so I am using ATT Skyrocket outside USA. The previous owner somehow unlocked it and then sold it to me. The phone is currently running on Gingerbread and I am planning an upgrade to ICS (i know how to do this). What I want to know is that after upgrade will the sim lock be reverted or my phone will remain sim unlocked after update?
please consider that it will be difficult for me to buy an unlock code so please answer only if u have tried or some expert knowledge.
thank you
I had my phone unlocked by kachman from this forum by a usb hack as he clamined. It stays unlocked no matter what rom you flash or upgrade. Also from cellunlocker.net, they claim if you unlock your phone using their code, you phone will stay unlocked regardless of what system you flash. It's hard to say if your phone will remain unlocked given the little info you provided. I'd say just stick with gb until you could get it unlocked again if you need to.
Your phone SHOULD remain unlocked. An OS upgrade should not affect that, or else everyone who gets their phone unlocked would have to bring it in/get a new code every time they did an upgrade, which doesn't make much sense. I Mean I can't say this with 100% certainty but I'd be a considerable amount of money that this is the case.
unlocking is permanent ....
cxyjordan said:
I had my phone unlocked by kachman from this forum by a usb hack as he clamined. It stays unlocked no matter what rom you flash or upgrade. Also from cellunlocker.net, they claim if you unlock your phone using their code, you phone will stay unlocked regardless of what system you flash. It's hard to say if your phone will remain unlocked given the little info you provided. I'd say just stick with gb until you could get it unlocked again if you need to.
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cxyjordan said:
I had my phone unlocked by kachman from this forum by a usb hack as he clamined. It stays unlocked no matter what rom you flash or upgrade. Also from cellunlocker.net, they claim if you unlock your phone using their code, you phone will stay unlocked regardless of what system you flash. It's hard to say if your phone will remain unlocked given the little info you provided. I'd say just stick with gb until you could get it unlocked again if you need to.
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will there were four parties involved in the middle before i got hold of the phone but when it came to me it was already unlocked and ready to take in any sim...now the point is that since its unlocked is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? and if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? (some one has already payed for unlocking it so now there seems to be no point of keeping the unlock code in a secret location)
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unlocking is permanent ....
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is there any proof of what you say?
machiyara said:
will there were four parties involved in the middle before i got hold of the phone but when it came to me it was already unlocked and ready to take in any sim...now the point is that since its unlocked is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? and if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? (some one has already payed for unlocking it so now there seems to be no point of keeping the unlock code in a secret location)
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is there any proof of what you say?
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is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.
cschmitt said:
is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.
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I missed you man lmfao
feeling the skyrocket xperiance
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cschmitt said:
is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.
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Believing on what u say i will try the update soon
Its such a shock that out of hundreds of skyrocket users who unlock their phones, no one has tried an update and cant make a comment on it.
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Believing on what u say i will try the update soon
Its such a shock that out of hundreds of skyrocket users who unlock their phones, no one has tried an update and cant make a comment on it.
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Once unlocked always unlocked.
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cschmitt said:
is it possible to find out how was it actually unlocked? --No.
if it was done through an unlock code, is it possible to extract it from the phone itself? -- No.
is there any proof of what you say? -- The unlock code and unlock state are stored in an encrypted file system partition (mmcblk0p18) that is accessible only by the radio and completely separate from the kernel, radio, system, data, and cache partitions that are typically overwritten during a ROM install/upgrade. So, yes a SIM unlock is permanent.
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yes you were right, phone is still unlocked after upgrading
thankyou
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I have a nexus 5. The bootloader is unlocked. It has stock OTA lollipop.
I have a few questions about this device. I have read this device is special in that unlocking the bootloader does not wipe the phone. Is that true? My impression is that locking the bootloader does NOT wipe the device (true for many device), correct?
My dilemma is this. I have read it is good to have a locked bootloader, but I don't want to then later unlock it if it wipes my device. I could root and lock, but I think I lose root when the next OTA update comes. I will hence be in locked without root state.
Anyway, my question is, do I need to lock it? Should I root it first? What do I do when I lose root next OTA and the bootloader is locked? This isn't a problem if unlocking the loader doesn't wipe the device.
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I have a nexus 5. The bootloader is unlocked. It has stock OTA lollipop.
I have a few questions about this device. I have read this device is special in that unlocking the bootloader does not wipe the phone. Is that true? My impression is that locking the bootloader does NOT wipe the device (true for many device), correct?
My dilemma is this. I have read it is good to have a locked bootloader, but I don't want to then later unlock it if it wipes my device. I could root and lock, but I think I lose root when the next OTA update comes. I will hence be in locked without root state.
Anyway, my question is, do I need to lock it? Should I root it first? What do I do when I lose root next OTA and the bootloader is locked? This isn't a problem if unlocking the loader doesn't wipe the device.
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Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device, unless you're rooted and use bootunlocker. Personally I leave my bootloader unlocked. You do loose some security though by doing this
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jd1639 said:
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device, unless you're rooted and use bootunlocker. Personally I leave my bootloader unlocked. You do loose some security though by doing this
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I guess it would help to know the security risks.
I only install apps from the play store, and usually only ones with a huge amount of traffic.
juniper1982 said:
I guess it would help to know the security risks.
I only install apps from the play store, and usually only ones with a huge amount of traffic.
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The security risk is if you lost your phone or it's stolen. With an unlocked bootloader it's easier to get to the contents of your phone. But if you don't use a pin or pattern lock it wouldn't make a difference.
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jd1639 said:
The security risk is if you lost your phone or it's stolen. With an unlocked bootloader it's easier to get to the contents of your phone. But if you don't use a pin or pattern lock it wouldn't make a difference.
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ah right. I was thinking that if someone physically got their hands on my they could just unlock and have access to it. but of course unlock wipes it!
Ok. thanks. I get it now.
Hello everyone! I didn't want to root my new MOTO G 2015 but I need more storage if I want to install more app's, I saw with root permissions we can transfer full sized app's to the sd, is it true? and how? I've seen already a guide how to root moto g 2015, but know I want to know how to transfer full sized app's to the SD and then i'll decide if I want to root or not.
Do you think I should root? It will be better If i want more storage?
Is it safe? The Lollipop will be automatically installed after the root? I have no need on install other Android OS.
Thank you!
Hey! I can see that you are new here, but rooting your phone isnt gonna delete anything of your data if you search on this forum for Link2sd than you will find a tuturial for how to do that. But if you dont understand any of the words "Brick" or "fastboot" you should do some research first.
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Hey! I can see that you are new here, but rooting your phone isnt gonna delete anything of your data if you search on this forum for Link2sd than you will find a tuturial for how to do that. But if you dont understand any of the words "Brick" or "fastboot" you should do some research first.
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Hello HelpMeruth! And thank you for replying my question!
Here's what I already searched this is , i've got alot of information already but the information I got says my phone will be formatted I think. Brick I remember that word a long time ago when the PSP Scene I know it's not android but I remember it, it's like having a non funcional phone, bricked.
Here's the guide I saw: (I can't post links, if you can search on the youtube : "Moto G 3rd Gen(2015) - How to Root - Unlock Bootloader & Custom Recovery") and tell me if that guide will not brick or format my moto g 3
Any chance of getting bricked? It will remove my SIM Service? I have the phone just for a week and the warranty it's 2 here's, If I root the warranty goes out, is it worth rooting?
Thanks for the reply sir and yes i'm really new in the android scene, just came from the iOS one, got mad at iOS
I can confirm that your phone will not be formatted
The word brick means that your phone wont start up.
Its a gamble for everyone to root, so when you are gonna do it try just booting Twrp. That is the safest way to test it.
But strart with unlocking your bootloader thats already a big step for rooting (unlocking bootloader will format your data!)
If you got any questions send me message!
Its your choise to root or not
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I can confirm that your phone will not be formatted
The word brick means that your phone wont start up.
Its a gamble for everyone to root, so when you are gonna do it try just booting Twrp. That is the safest way to test it.
But strart with unlocking your bootloader thats already a big step for rooting (unlocking bootloader will format your data!)
If you got any questions send me message!
Its your choise to root or not
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You do NOT need to unlock bootloader in order to root.
You DO need to unlock your bootloader for TWRP, unless booted temporarily.
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christopherrrg said:
You do NOT need to unlock bootloader in order to root.
You DO need to unlock your bootloader for TWRP, unless booted temporarily.
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What? you have to unlock the bootloader in order to boot/flash twrp.
and with twrp you can root, how do you root with locked bootloader?
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What? you have to unlock the bootloader in order to boot/flash twrp.
and with twrp you can root, how do you root with locked bootloader?
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Root toolkit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62922929
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christopherrrg said:
Root toolkit
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=62922929
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You shouldnt be able to root with a locked bootloader, i quote: 'A locked bootloader locks write access to several partitions like the system partition. This is the reason why rooting is not able without unlocked bootloader.' found on this site https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-main-differences-between-Rooting-and-Unlocking-Bootloader
that tool just has a build in fastboot/adb and automate things for you.
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HelpMeruth said:
You shouldnt be able to root with a locked bootloader, i quote: 'A locked bootloader locks write access to several partitions like the system partition. This is the reason why rooting is not able without unlocked bootloader.' found on this site https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-main-differences-between-Rooting-and-Unlocking-Bootloader
that tool just has a build in fastboot/adb and automate things for you.
(sorry for my bad english)
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Yeah after doing some research motorola devices seem to have that in place. I was speaking generally from a vanilla aosp aspect. Good find.
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Btw, If I install CyanogenMod it will reset my moto g firmware? Or install another firmware version? Thanks
M05K said:
Btw, If I install CyanogenMod it will reset my moto g firmware? Or install another firmware version? Thanks
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Installing cyanogenmod will still keep you on 5.1.1 your device will just be modified (custom tweaks etc..) so if you have to unlock your bootloader it will void any warranties you have. If you don't have one or don't care just make sure to read carefully as you sound relatively new to CM and you don't want to brick your device.
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Installing cyanogenmod will still keep you on 5.1.1 your device will just be modified (custom tweaks etc..) so if you have to unlock your bootloader it will void any warranties you have. If you don't have one or don't care just make sure to read carefully as you sound relatively new to CM and you don't want to brick your device.
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Yes it will be modified to cyanogenmod firmware right? So the firmware updates from MOTO G 3 I had installed will go resetted to the cyanogenmod firmware right?
M05K said:
Yes it will be modified to cyanogenmod firmware right? So the firmware updates from MOTO G 3 I had installed will go resetted to the cyanogenmod firmware right?
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Correct.
Cm12.1 is just 5.1.1 that's why I said it would.
You may see custom aosp 6.0 ROMs before any real factory builds.
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Hi, i was wandering to know, if it's possible to unlock my Device without touch the bootloader. The Point is, i do not wanna lose data, and i do not want to install other OS, i need only root. Like i saw on one plus, they made it possible.
andrea serafini said:
Hi, i was wandering to know, if it's possible to unlock my Device without touch the bootloader. The Point is, i do not wanna lose data, and i do not want to install other OS, i need only root. Like i saw on one plus, they made it possible.
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No..you need to unlock
So you got the Edge S and want GApps? Basically you unlock your bootloader, root with Magisk, then install MagiskGApps.
DISCLAIMER: UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER MAY VOID YOUR WARRANTY, AND DOING ALL THESE THINGS IN THIS GUIDE MAY RESULT IN DAMAGE/BRICKING YOUR PHONE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING YOU DO TO YOUR PHONE. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK.
1. Unlock the bootloader: that should be doable with their global bootloader unlock website here.
2. Download Lenovo Motoroa Smart Assistant (Rescue and Smart Assistant), and follow its instructions to "rescue" your device. It will lead you to boot into bootloader mode and download the firmware. Find the firmware file via the LMSA's downloads (should have a "show folder" button). You'll need the boot.img file for Magisk.
3. Download Magisk, then follow its instructions. You'll have to copy the boot.img to your device, then use Magisk to patch the boot file, then copy the modified one to your PC.
4. You'll need fastboot. If you don't have it already, you can download the Android SDK platform tools here. Then go into the folder, Shift+Right Click the folder, then "Open Command Prompt" or "Open PowerShell," you should have something close to one of those two. Copy your Magisk modified .img file to that folder, then you'll want to input:
fastboot flash boot [modified .img file]
Once that completes, you should see in large text, "Start" on your phone next to the power button. Press the power button, and it should boot, and you should have root now.
5. Download MagiskGApps to your phone, open Magisk on your phone, click the button that looks like a puzzle piece at the bottom of the screen, "Modules." Click "Install from storage," locate the MagiskGApps file, and install it. After that it will ask you to restart your phone, do that, then you'll just have to be patient as it takes time once its restarted to load everything. You also may need to update some or all of the apps, then you should be able to use the notification to finish setting up the phone with Google Setup.
Thanks to Motorola for making it easy to unlock their bootloaders
Thanks to the whole Magisk team for making an easy, awesome root (and more!)
Thanks to Wacko1805 (and team?) for making MagiskGApps. This is really awesome.
unlock the BL and get root is will make some apps fingerprint and face ID fail?
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unlock the BL and get root is will make some apps fingerprint and face ID fail?
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Magisk has a "Magisk Hide" which will allow it to pass SafetyNet, and most things which check on device security will think the device is secure. But unlocking BL and rooting does make the device less secure, and therefore incurs its own risks apart from bricking or damaging the device.
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Magisk has a "Magisk Hide" which will allow it to pass SafetyNet, and most things which check on device security will think the device is secure. But unlocking BL and rooting does make the device less secure, and therefore incurs its own risks apart from bricking or damaging the device.
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yes, i knew the unlock and root will take risk.. but not sure is Payment business apps using fingerprint will work normal.
kimker said:
yes, i knew the unlock and root will take risk.. but not sure is Payment business apps using fingerprint will work normal.
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Google Pay works. But according to the Motorola website you should be able to relock the bootloader if yours doesn't work. But there's never any guarantee. If you need your device secure, recommend don't unlock bl or root, or wait to see if there's a root option without bootloader unlock that can be easily undone.
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Google Pay works. But according to the Motorola website you should be able to relock the bootloader if yours doesn't work. But there's never any guarantee. If you need your device secure, recommend don't unlock bl or root, or wait to see if there's a root option without bootloader unlock that can be easily undone.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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That's not good. Hopefully they can restore it back somehow. With this guide to unlock and flash gapps why would you need to flash G100 though? This seems to be itright now without one of rom developer's releases to get root & apps. For me this is all i would look for. Titanium backup on it and restore.. done until PE rom comes out.
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I saw that someone’s edge s had unlocked the BL and Flash G100 firmware and everything worked normally, and then tried to lock the BL again, but it was unsuccessful and the system could not start. The flashing tool does not recognize the machine.
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I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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thank you. They did not ask for help. It seems that the lock BL is a self-verification switch, and then performs a verification system integrity.
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I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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I'm curious,If you unlock and flash other firmware and then flash back to the original firmware, can it be locked again?
Mine doesn't let me unlock its BL. I've got unlock code from moto and did a factory reset with SIM card in slot 1. After enabling developer mode and debugging the switch still is greyed out. So no chance to unlock it.
Has anyone got an idea what to try now?
Moto support answered yesterday to my request but also no solution since I told them that it doesn't work
Device is not branded. I got it from Amazon so no provider branding.
If this won't be able to be unlocked and rooted I'll have to return it and switch to a Google Pixel.
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Mine doesn't let me unlock its BL. I've got unlock code from moto and did a factory reset with SIM card in slot 1. After enabling developer mode and debugging the switch still is greyed out. So no chance to unlock it.
Has anyone got an idea what to try now?
Moto support answered yesterday to my request but also no solution since I told them that it doesn't work
Device is not branded. I got it from Amazon so no provider branding.
If this won't be able to be unlocked and rooted I'll have to return it and switch to a Google Pixel.
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I had the same issue, you need to factory reset WITH your sim card in the phone, this will let you open the OEM unlock slide thing in the dev mode.
Then once its done you can fastboot and unlock the bootloader.
I did so, maybe I explained not so well. SIM was inserted and then I did factory reset by starting it from settings. After restart it's still the same - switch / unlock slider greyed out.
kischde said:
I did so, maybe I explained not so well. SIM was inserted and then I did factory reset by starting it from settings. After restart it's still the same - switch / unlock slider greyed out.
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On my OG Pixel XL, I had to wait 7 days for the slider to become normal. By the time I got around to do it on the Edge S it was about the same time.... could be related
Now as you said that I remember that thingy with another device. Maybe a Xiaomi I think... With that I had to wait several days until the unlock code was delivered.
But there was a message, too, when trying to get it sooner, which said you needed to wait some more time.
Not sure if it's the the same for Moto devices? Then again, when thinking that you experienced the same with a Pixel, too...
Did anyone else make such an experience with his/her g100?
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Now as you said that I remember that thingy with another device. Maybe a Xiaomi I think... With that I had to wait several days until the unlock code was delivered.
But there was a message, too, when trying to get it sooner, which said you needed to wait some more time.
Not sure if it's the the same for Moto devices? Then again, when thinking that you experienced the same with a Pixel, too...
Did anyone else make such an experience with his/her g100?
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Make sure your on the latest OTA, Lenovo made a mistake on previous versions with the OEM Unlocking function not being enabled. They fixed it in latest ota.
RSA tool said the file I uploaded yesterday is the latest one available (and it's exactly the same as the installed version).
The device was released just a few days ago in Europe. Perhaps they fixed the unlock switch in other regions and still need to fix it in Europe..
Will wait until weekend if they come up with a solution. If not I'm afraid I have to return the device as I need it personally AND professionally, too - I'm field agent, so.... :/
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I would think yes, if you flash different firmware, locking the BL would likely cause problems. It's very difficult to do anything w/o unlocked bootloader, except sometimes rooting is doable. That's pretty much the behavior I expect. If they come to this subforum, we might be able to help.
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The poor guy whose phone turned bricks went to the after-sales department of moto, and the answer was that he needed to replace the phone motherboard. .
kimker said:
The poor guy whose phone turned bricks went to the after-sales department of moto, and the answer was that he needed to replace the phone motherboard. .
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Ouch...
kimker said:
I'm curious,If you unlock and flash other firmware and then flash back to the original firmware, can it be locked again?
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I would assume so, but I don't really know why anyone would want to relock.