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Random Shut Down Issue - Theory: Let's compare apps

Some of us are having problems with our Captivate randomly shutting down. AT&T technical support thinks it could be apps that we've installed. Could they be right? My replacement device didn't start shutting down again after 3-4 days of owning it. By that time, I have already installed some favorite apps. Here's my list. Let's compare and figure this out. It's just a theory. Can't hurt.
<<<< OMG! While typing this new thread to turn on my phone so I can see the list of apps I have installed, MY PHONE TURNED OFF ON ME! WHAT THE...!!! >>> Anyway...
Apps installed:
-SMS Back Up and Restore
-Yahoo! Mail for Android
-Adobe Reader
-XDA-Developers
-Market History Manager
-Speedtest.net
-Google Maps

Mine never did it until I set advanced tag killer to harsh every half hour. I watered down the harshness a little bit and it hasn't shut off since
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Theres a thread in the vibrant section that's about the same problem and it happens after 3 days could try there
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Thanks. I just posted on an existing thread over there. I will do a hardware master reset later and observe again the next 3-4 days. Samsung gave me the directions. (Hold the volume up and down plus the power button, all 3 buttons for 15 seconds, etc.)

most are saying that its bad RAM/memory and exchanging the handset fixed all the problems

andy2na said:
most are saying that its bad RAM/memory and exchanging the handset fixed all the problems
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Is there a memtest type application for android? Bad memory would make sense, but so would a number of other theories.

Ur welcome hope it helps and u get it figured out
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RexEscape said:
Thanks. I just posted on an existing thread over there. I will do a hardware master reset later and observe again the next 3-4 days. Samsung gave me the directions. (Hold the volume up and down plus the power button, all 3 buttons for 15 seconds, etc.)
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Yeah, that's their answer for all problems, big and small. I'm sure in some cases it's valid, but the reset is used more as a "what the hell' reply rather than a knowledge-based solution.

Jack45 said:
Yeah, that's their answer for all problems, big and small. I'm sure in some cases it's valid, but the reset is used more as a "what the hell' reply rather than a knowledge-based solution.
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...which I agree to some point. Some users just end up loading crap on devices which screws things up (some of the apps mentioned above might be crap, or not, not sure, it's only a theory. Of course, a perfect device is a unit that can withstand ANY apps you feed to it. But we don't have THE perfect device (yet, or ever).
I will do the hardware master reset in a few minutes and not load anything for 3-4 days (but I will enter my Gmail account and let it sync with my Contacts, Calendar, and Email, but that's it...for now).

RexEscape said:
...which I agree to some point. Some users just end up loading crap on devices which screws things up (some of the apps mentioned above might be crap, or not, not sure, it's only a theory. Of course, a perfect device is a unit that can withstand ANY apps you feed to it. But we don't have THE perfect device (yet, or ever).
I will do the hardware master reset in a few minutes and not load anything for 3-4 days (but I will enter my Gmail account and let it sync with my Contacts, Calendar, and Email, but that's it...for now).
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What steers me away from the app theory is that there have been several posts indicating that the random shutdowns have occurred with a stock device. No apps downloaded / installed.
I don't have an answer except to say that the master reset can't hurt. Realistically, though, if you go a few days without a shutdown don't sit back and smile like the Cheshire Cat. Sometimes the shutdowns occur weeks into ownership. I'm not being negative, just realistic.
I wish you well.

Jack45 said:
What steers me away from the app theory is that there have been several posts indicating that the random shutdowns have occurred with a stock device. No apps downloaded / installed.
I don't have an answer except to say that the master reset can't hurt. Realistically, though, if you go a few days without a shutdown don't sit back and smile like the Cheshire Cat. Sometimes the shutdowns occur weeks into ownership. I'm not being negative, just realistic.
I wish you well.
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Agreed. Like I said, this is my second device and the shutdowns didn't start until 3-4 days after ownership on both devices. The reality (for me) is that the Captivate isn't so great after all after two devices already (sorry to say) but I'm not going to give up just yet. I have until the 31st to decide whether I will continue this 30-day early upgrade trial or take it back and continue to use my HTC Fuze and just let my contract expire (in October). If I take it back, come October, I will decide whether I will stay with AT&T and take on another (hopefully bug-free) Captivate, or move to Verizon and check out their Android phones -- HTC and Motorola devices!

I just did a hardware master reset. It isn't exactly a hardware master reset like the tech guy described it. He gave me the directions to "delete user data". It deleted the apps that I have downloaded from the Market, and other things. I don't know what else. However, when it booted up again, I noticed my settings and widgets are still there. My homescreen was still customized the way I had it. So, it's not a total master reset. The software Factory Reset isn't also a total (software) reset. I did that and found some folders left in my internal memory (not my external MicroSD) from the previous working session. Hmm..

my captivate started to shutdown about five days ago. it's been doing it once a day, always in the morning. i wonder if it has something to do with the power management. the phone is always charged overnight and the shutdowns always seem to happen about an hour or so after i unplug it from the charger.
the one day it didn't shut down, i noticed that the lock screen was unresponsive (ie i couldn't unlock the phone) and i ended up having to power down the phone anyway.

vksf01 said:
my captivate started to shutdown about five days ago. it's been doing it once a day, always in the morning. i wonder if it has something to do with the power management. the phone is always charged overnight and the shutdowns always seem to happen about an hour or so after i unplug it from the charger.
the one day it didn't shut down, i noticed that the lock screen was unresponsive (ie i couldn't unlock the phone) and i ended up having to power down the phone anyway.
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exactly how it happens on mine.

i'll see what happens over the rest of the week and then try the master reset. if it still happens, i'm going to return this for another one. unfortunately, i've had it for over 30 days.

vksf01 said:
i'll see what happens over the rest of the week and then try the master reset. if it still happens, i'm going to return this for another one. unfortunately, i've had it for over 30 days.
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Even after 30 days, you will still be able to return it (maybe to Samsung) for repair or a replacement. Good luck.

vksf01 said:
my captivate started to shutdown about five days ago. it's been doing it once a day, always in the morning. i wonder if it has something to do with the power management. the phone is always charged overnight and the shutdowns always seem to happen about an hour or so after i unplug it from the charger.
the one day it didn't shut down, i noticed that the lock screen was unresponsive (ie i couldn't unlock the phone) and i ended up having to power down the phone anyway.
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Mine has shut down twice, and I've only had it for 12 days. As you described, it happened both times in the morning, following a recharge.
I had to remove and replace the battery to get it to turn back on, is that the same thing that happened to you? I mean to say, did you have to remove and replace the battery to get it to work again?

The two Captivates I've owned (and returned due to a combination of GPS and Random Shut Downs) have shut down on me even in the middle of the day (not only in the morning after recharging for the night). It shut down on me while getting my afternoon coffee. I was showing the phone to the Barista, set the phone down on the counter to pay, picked it up, walked back to my office and just when I'm about to wake it up, it does the bootup. It also shut down on me at night while walking in the dark. I noticed my pocket lit up. I pulled out my phone and I saw the Shut Down screen as if you had pressed and held the power button (but nothing else was in my pocket that could have pressed the button!).
Random, I tell ya. Random.

pmpntl said:
exactly how it happens on mine.
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Larry202br said:
Mine has shut down twice, and I've only had it for 12 days. As you described, it happened both times in the morning, following a recharge.
I had to remove and replace the battery to get it to turn back on, is that the same thing that happened to you? I mean to say, did you have to remove and replace the battery to get it to work again?
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no, i just turned it back on using the power button.

I just wanted to chime in to say that I am having the same problem. Random shutdowns, not necessarily related to charging. Often they are in the morning however. For me it has been happening a few times a day. Likewise, it seems to have not happened at first, but began a few days ago (I have owned the phone about 2 weeks.)
Are you guys rooted? I have tried unrooting to see if that matters. I don't know why it would, but perhaps...

[Q] Nexus S goes into some sort of fault state

My two months old Nexus S started to behave in a way that renders it pretty much useless - Freezing / Locked U
Freeze/Delay Between Menu and basically the phone is dead.
Very often when the screen is off, pressing power button powers up the screen with the screen lock, but the phone is not responsive so the screen just goes off again as it is impossible to slide to unlock it.
On top of that, leaving the phone with the screen off for a half an hour or so brings up some sort of warning sign and a small android (can see the screen shot here: http://yfrog.com/h3apmgqj) and the phone is effectively dead. The only thing to do in any of the two cases is remove and reinsert the battery, but that is no solution to anything. All this is while the battery is fully charged.
Did anyone experienced this before? resetting phone does not help.
Here is more info on this topic: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/label?lid=4e31a500f89fe575&hl=en

Are you using a custom recovery/ROM? That icon you posted isn't the stock image

Hi, no I do not - the image is actually from different phone but it looks exactly as it did on my Nexus S (little green guy with an exclamation mark). I never rooted my phone or done any custom mods to its system.
I actually sent it to Samsung and they are claiming that they found no problem, so they re-flushed the phone and are sending it back. I am seriously angry at samsung. It is arriving on the 11th so I'll let you know if that helped but I doubt it.
I believe this might be a faulty memory because I often received notification that the internal storage was unavailable or something of that nature as well, right before the problem would occur. Are the any tests I could perform for memory / storage?

just try to flash it back to stock
then do wipe data and wipe cache
see if that gets it back on its feet

Hey,
thank you, I thank that means I would have to root it first ehhh
Samsung told me they've done just that (flashed phone) so I am seriously hoping that my phone will work when it arrives on the 11th.
thanks!

Samsung supposedly is looking into this problem, please see link below:
http://www.google.com/support/forum...ad?fid=44db6d8e31129d4c00049e3b2a6db4d1&hl=en

Update:
I just received my phone from Samsung repair and of course, the phone is NOT fixed. On the side note, they also sent back my note that explains the problem meaning it was ignored completely.
I will be contacting @SamsungServic and calling but at this point I am not sure that they can fix the phone other then replace it.
Also,
I've spoken to Samsung and chat online and - yes they nice and throw back lots of promises and niceness back but they are NOT doing anything about it, for now at least.

I copy and paste the best answer on the google support topic to here:
I've been keeping a notebook to document my debugging of this problem. No app in particular is responsible, in my opinion. I have observed the phone lock up after a Factory Data Reset + USB wipe, and with no accounts configured. In fact, I have had it freeze after following this procedure:
1. Factory Data Reset + USB erase from Settings menu
2. Phone reboots.
3. Go through initial setup screens, skip account setup.
4. Power down phone.
5. Remove battery.
6. Remove SIM card.
7. Replace battery.
8. Power up phone.
9. Let phone sit for 15 minutes or more.
10. Phone freezes.
This is about as close to bare bones as I can get with this device.
I have also documented at least four freeze modes:
1. Phone is completely dark (both display and buttons). No combination of power button or other buttons can bring phone back. Battery removal required.
2. Phone display is dark, but the four "hard key" buttons are illuminated. No combination of power button or other buttons can bring phone back. Battery removal required.
3. Phone displays only a green android by a warning exclamation sign. Holding power button down, then volume up, then release volume up, will bring up the Android system recovery screen, from which phone can be rebooted.
4. Phone is frozen at the unlock screen. Sometimes this freeze occurs while swiping the unlock icon. No combination of power button or other buttons can bring phone back. Battery removal required.
I have observed the phone going from normal standby state (display and buttons dark) to state 2, and at other times to state 3, while it was sitting on my desk by the keyboard.
I'm just about ready to send it to Samsung. I just wanted to verify that the problem would be reproducible after a factory reset and without the SIM card.
I think it may be a hardware problem. It's also possible that part of the Android kernel or some device driver on my device has become corrupt. Unfortunately I can't reset the OS.
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I did a factory reset from the stock recovery, too. Doesn't help either.
My phone arrived on Friday Samsung mobile repair in Texas. And like they did to ohter Nexus S devices from other users they will do the following to mine:
Reflashing the phone -> doing some functional tests ...
... and this is the crazy thing about it. The error we have is just appearing when the phone is in standby and because of this the phone passes the functional tests Samsung is doing at the end of the service. Phone goes back to user. A defective phone.
Some guy managed to keep the phone alive by setting the display turning off after 30mins. He is charging it twice a day
I got a reply from @SamsungSupport on twitter:
Thank you Fabian for again reaching out to us. We are aware of this issue as some of us have your same phone.
An evaluation is already being conducted to determine the fix. We don't have a timeframe of the resolution.
But understand it will be pushed to phones. We will advise once we have a timeframe.
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The support team is friendly and to me it feels like they try to do anything they could.
Funny: One guy got a replacement device. But then no one other. Just reflash...
I think they will do something but on the other hand I'm worried that they will do nothing. But time will tell....
Maybe it would help us if Google will be aware of the problem, too. Ok maybe they allready know it, but I don't know that.
So if some of you here do have some connections... please do us a favor and forward this topic or the link to the google support topic. Feel free to forward this topic to any website you think it would write a news about it. Maybe Google will throw a eye on it. My phone is 8 weeks old and yeah this so anoying. And of course all my friends who are iHippster are trolling me like hell.
It don't want to flame or blame Samsung\Google for this.But our phones are in warranty. The error hits only a few devices and so they should replace it. My 50cent about it... this is not a Google expierence they talked about...

I also had the same problem and sent my phone into Samsung. They only re flashed it, which didn't fix the problem. I immediately called Samsung to inform them that the issue was not fixed and they just told me to send it back for "double checking." Do you think it is better to send it back in or just wait for fix to emerge?

I will be sending it back and demand replacing the phone, also making sure they just don't re-flash again. I guess anything but re-flashing could work.
Remember that I've mailed my phone with one page letter explaining the problem. Their response was flashing the phone and sending it back - with my letter.
Here is note from the support team:
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Original Problem:
Technical Inquiry
Phone Freezing / Locked U
Freeze/Delay Between Menu
Problem found:
NO TROUBLE FOUND
SW,PRL,OTSL RESET
Solution:
Passed All Functional Testing
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@Samsungservice did not even acknowledge it officially that this is a problem.

Yeah i wrote a letter too explaining the issue and how to recreate it (the first time). They told me that it passed their quality assurance inspection after re-flashing it, which must be very poor because my phone shut off again 15 minutes after receiving it. Just dropped it back off at UPS today. Can they replace the phone because of this issue? I know one person had success, but it doesn't seem anyone else has.

Nexus S faulty
Samsung may not be able to reproduce it after reflashing; as this issue does not seem to occur when connected to a PC/computer via USB. Their automated testing could be over USB.
Looks like more and more people are facing this issue as the day goes by.
Search for "Nexus S fault state" on google and you'll find the google support forum thread discussing it

Guys,
Did anyone have tried to flash a custom rom to see if this will solve the problem ?
cheers !

No, but this problem is not ROM related.

discr said:
Samsung may not be able to reproduce it after reflashing; as this issue does not seem to occur when connected to a PC/computer via USB. Their automated testing could be over USB.
Looks like more and more people are facing this issue as the day goes by.
Search for "Nexus S fault state" on google and you'll find the google support forum thread discussing it
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I figured that was why they couldn't recreate the shutdown. Made sure they knew that it has to be unplugged. Mine always shuts off within 10-15 minutes if untouched.

I have same problem.Only remove battery helps. I have been having nexus s for 2 and half months and this problem just came last week. I don't know how to solve it. I tried reflash firmware but didn't help.

welcome to the club. you have to send it to USA to get it serviced (make a extreme detailed problem description and make sure the support worker writes it down 1:1 into their ticket system). they provide a 2day ups shippment label, BUT only to locations in USA.
I can recommend FedEx. They helped me a lot with this duty stuff for shipping to USA. That's not so easy . I paid €50 to get it shipped to a friend of mine in USA.
You have to send only the foreparts of the device. No battery and back panel, no charger and so on. But they will give you all informations at the end of the service request.
or: wait for a hotfix. which maybe never will come.

Update:
I just mailed my phone again... they told me they do not replace phones (not sure what that means yet). The Rep was arguing that if I want the phone replaced then I need to talk to T-Mobile - it does not make any sense.
Anyway, I explained the problem as much as I could and did not mail any notes this time as they obviously do not care for it. But I made sure he included every detail in his notes.
I am very skeptical but still hoping....
Also,
About the part when the phone does not freeze when plugged in or charging. I had my Nexus S charging overnight and it was frozen in the morning.

Update:
Also, I've contacted @SamsungServic via Twitter and asked if their team recognized it as a problem, but I've got no response.
On the other hand if you report the problem to them, they will respond that they will look into it - which means nothing, but if enough people asks the same question them they will have to.
-thanks

I've got some sort of responce via Twitter from @SamsungService, here is what they wrote back:
@SamsungService
Thank you for reaching out to us. We are aware of this issue as some of us have your same phone. An evaluation is already being conducted to determine the fix. We don't have a time frame of the resolution, but understand it will be pushed to phones. We will advise once we have a time frame. Thank you. ^Mary
@Keinam
Does this mean we should stop sending our phones back for repair and just wait for your OTA update? If it happens?
@SamsungService
Many issues can be resolved with warranty service. Regarding the issue you've referred to,It is my understanding that a fix if being worked on which would be sent out OTA. ^Mary

Omnia 7 screen/battery bug

Hello XDA, i've heard (and know) that you guys are quite good with phones, and was hoping someone would be able to help me out, i can't find anybody with the same problem.
So here it is:
Since i've been skiing, often when i lock my phone the screens keeps on coming on and staying on the lock screen, and just won't turn off, so it's an obvious baterry drainer and pontentially dangerous for the screen, so i've resosrted to putting a black background image.
Also when the battery gets "critically low" my phone comes up with the message and also vibrates, but keeps on repeating in, just doesn't stop !
I've also noticed that when this problem occurs when i go into battery saver in options the second box constantly flashes as does the estimate remaining time and time since last charge.
My battery is now really bad when this happens, but supprisingly is ok when this doesnt happen.
Has anybody else had this problem, or something similar? and could someone give me some advice (factory reset? which i don't really want to have to do :/ )
Thank You
and my phone is generaly a bit buggy when this happens, like suddenly turning off etc.

Since this happened after skiing, I'm guessing your phone got a bit wet, probably around either the power button or the battery (or both). You can try drying it out by putting it in some warm dry rice (an excellent dessicant) but that's something you do within minutes of it getting wet, not days, if you want to avoid permanent damage.
You could also try taking the battery out and carefully inspecting it, comparing it with the battery from another phone, etc. If it appears damaged in any way (swollen, discolored, corrosion on the contacts, etc.) you could try replacing the battery and seeing if that helps. You could also replace the phone, of course, but you'll probably have to buy it at retail price unless you've got insurance that covers liquid damage.
You could try a factory reset before replacing the phone, since you'll lose all your data anyhow, but this doesn't sounds nearly as much like a software problem as it does like a hardware problem. However, getting your data off is actually possible, using a tool like WP7 Root Tools (which is really awkward to use for backup, but it can be done). If you wait the next however-long for Heathcliff74 to release a version of Root Tools that supports elevating other apps, you'll be able to use a data backup tool that I wrote last year and am modifying to work via any full-permissions access.

Thank you for the reply.
The same problem actually happened in November also, but quickly went back to normal, but it's been a week now so it's getting a bit annoying.
I just rang samsung and she obviously said do a reset, so i think i'll do this but this will erase everything, i would just like to keep my contacts and messages tbh.
Havn't got time do research that yet but i'll look after, unless someone points me to something first, and i'll post back.
Thanks

You can make a backup of the phone before hard-reset. That way, if the reset doesnt' fix anything, at least you can restore the backup and be back where you were before deciding on your next step.

I can't get the Backup program to work, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103011
Keep getting "Le format de la chaîne d'entrée est incorrect."
And if i try the in the command prompt i just get a an error saying "updatewp.exe stopped working"
is there any other way of backing it up?
Thanks

[Q] Hard Bricked? Sidekick 4g

Soo I have a big problem,
My sidekick 4g suddenly shut off and directly went into Download Bootloader. It would only stay in that window for about 3 seconds then restart. So I tried doing Odin but it would never stay in download mode long enough. After a while, the phone stopped turning on and now it does not even charge. I believe I have hard bricked the phone. When I leave it on the charger. I see no indication that it is charging but the battery gets warm. Is there any hope for me to fix this phone?
Please let me know ASAP. Thanks!

helodavelo said:
Soo I have a big problem,
My sidekick 4g suddenly shut off and directly went into Download Bootloader. It would only stay in that window for about 3 seconds then restart. So I tried doing Odin but it would never stay in download mode long enough. After a while, the phone stopped turning on and now it does not even charge. I believe I have hard bricked the phone. When I leave it on the charger. I see no indication that it is charging but the battery gets warm. Is there any hope for me to fix this phone?
Please let me know ASAP. Thanks!
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Does the device even show up as a USB vendor/product id? See that with `lsusb` on Linux or the Device Manager on Windows.
It might be worth trying ayoteddy's FOOL PROOF WAY TO GET INTO DOWNLOAD MODE here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1186954
Perhaps if you trigger the phone to enter download mode that way, it won't just continually reboot...
Beyond that, I think you'll be looking at hardware-level fixes. If the phone isn't literally fried, it can almost certainly be repaired with JTAG. But that would involve a JTAG interface which I am guessing you don't already have.
You might be able to find someone who will JTAG for you for free, or for a fee. A local phone repair shop might have this capability.
If you're damn good with a soldering iron, or have a friend who is, there's also AdamOutler's "UnbrickableMod":
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347984
That mod is not for the feint of heart, you need to take the phone almost entirely apart and do soldering work within the area of a grain of rice... but it is possible.
But all the options assume that the only problem with the device is a bad flash -- damaged boot loader, bad kernel/recovery, etc. The way you describe your phone's demise, a hardware failure certainly seems like a possibility.
Good luck, I hope your device is not dead.
FWIW, SK4G goes for ~$100-200 on eBay these days depending on condition. Locally you could probably find lower prices.

Wow thanks for all the info but i tried ayoteddy. Since the phone doesnt even power on , i cant do what teddy says. And no, after a few failed odins, the comp doesn't even see the phone. But that's also because the phone doesn't turn on. I even put a charged bat. Still no go

helodavelo said:
Wow thanks for all the info but i tried ayoteddy. Since the phone doesnt even power on , i cant do what teddy says. And no, after a few failed odins, the comp doesn't even see the phone. But that's also because the phone doesn't turn on. I even put a charged bat. Still no go
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It really sounds like a hardware failure.
If you are committed to trying everything to rescue your particular device, you could double down and try a new battery. You risk wasting whatever money you spend on it, of course.
If I recall correctly, the SK4G can't operate properly without some battery current, even when plugged into USB. And the other symptoms seem to leave the door open on battery problems -- sudden power down, brief signs of life which eventually cease, hot battery. The sudden failure of a lithium battery would hardly be unusual.

I have seen an issue very similar to this before. It turned out to be a loose connection inside the phone. Might want to disassemble and reassemble carefully to ensure that the connections are secure. Youtube has dis-assembly videos to guide you. You don't have to completely disassemble the phone, just til you reach the main board and secure the connections to it. If you don't feel like you can hand the task of dis-assembly you could always search for a local phone repair business, or even computer repair shop (they often do some phone repairs). Hope this helps

Hey there, I am trying to fix a SK4G with the exact same problems... download mode will show up, but then the screen will go blank again. I'm gonna look into what blk2dr suggested... did you ever fix yours, OP?

root? so Warranty it, not saying its the most "ethical way"
out of curiosity what was the last, well as samsung would put it, hac...ERRRR unsupported warranty voiding modification known to us as upgrade/flash eg. via cwm odin rom app add on modem kernel etc. that was done to the ol SK? or is it just straight up faulty craftsmanship from samsung...nooooo on a SK4g??? is that possible? lol moving a rom around from folder to root of sd once (zip prev passed md5 check) my 2nd or was it 3rd t839 had a lil hiccup that i didnt realize at the time made my custom Roms zip like 47kb smaller then it previously was and should of been, when flashing is 2nd nature and ur just moving it within the same sd card its already checked out on the md5 sum and ur dealing with a 200+/-mb file, whos gonna notice that minor change? to make a really long story just kinda long, into voodoo cwm flash, let it marinate... phone ran great for 4 days, then i decided i was going to clear cache davlik fix permish and reboot...yea went into cwm wiped wiped and half way thru fix permish phone crashed rebooted back into recov, when i tried to reboot sys it had your same exact issue. DL mode for just a second...then all black yet slightly backlit screen. could never get it to stay long enuff to odin back to stock, fullproof DL mode was a no go and of course the battery died, wouldnt recharge. i played dumb went to tmo store dude tesed phone with new batt my batt in other sk etc etc...anyways he charged my battery up enuff it flared back into dl mode for a few sec...my fix? hours and days headin into weeks of jackin with this thing i went with my cure all root REUPwarranty fix...flash a bad freakin bootloader thru odin and kill it once ad for all, DL mode only needs to be on about 4 sec, not long enough to go back to stock rom but long enuff to kill that B. prefered bootloader is i9000 haha works like a champ everytime to every rooted phone that had issues i needed a warranty exchange on(only been 4) seeing how i get a new phone every 3months on avg and always pay full price the ratio is tiny. yeah i know the trickle down effect raising costs from manufacture in long run yadayada. all is true, but i figure ive been kicked in the groin so many times by samsung,lg,moto,htc etc they can eat 1 every now and then. as a tmo employee in 07/08 i paid 500 upfront for the mda that got back ordered for 6 months had 2 bad dead spots in the touch screen within a month and screen went completely white in 3mnths. some employee/warranty fine print screwed me out of a new phone. and dont even get me started on the sidekick. 399 bucks for a phone that basically got abandoned 3 months later cuz it was junk compared to what it should be and breaks in high quanities. theyll still tax u 20 bucks and make u keep ur old battery and cover charger etc so im not losin any sleep, for real kill it for good, run it to the store get ur new err rebuilt refurb SK4g in 2 days then save up for a t989 s2 dl gmote/spashtop and poweramp on ur SK4g and let her roll as a wireless keyboard/mousepad for ur pc and let the voodoo and Pamp rock as a killer mp3 player. thats all the T-urd-839 is really good for anyways, oh yea and a mediocre bt controller for playin games on my S2's lol do the warranty, its samsung/TMOs fault for lettin this junk product get released, abandoning it and overcharging so many of us. Just do it, do it lol

pull battery, connect usb, hold power, volume up, volume down, camera, and tackpad and insert battery. It should FORCE the phone into download mode.
try it lol~

S10e froze up visually crashed then started to boot then went black. No charging and no power. Please help!

Hi,
I was just looking at a zoom video and had a lot of apps open in the background and the battery was around 50%. Then my screen froze, then I tapped a bit on the screen and it went black. I tried to soft reset and it vibrated for a second and nothing happened. I let it sit on the charger for a while and nothing. Put it on the portable charger and nothing. Same with trying hard and soft reset. The phone apparently pulls low voltage per UBreakifix. They said they saw 20 phones that had random issues after the last Samsung update including S21's. Mine just installed a few days ago. I have no idea what to do, but need the screen recordings of my relative that died and the voicemails that were exported to sound. Please help! Samsung said could be a short and then said they would replace the motherboard. I want the data not the phone.
Could I just be unlucky and it is simply a battery that died completely? Would the Samsung store be able to flash a new or older firmware without losing the files?

flashing would basically make your device a 'new' device... the only thing that comes to mind to keep your data is salvaging the parts (which would be labor intensive as it's basically re-building a phone by hand while it's not clear which among all the parts is/are defective, and even then the parts need to work smoothly together). If you have auto backup setup for the device, it's possible things like messages are saved.
Other than that, you would have to find professionals who are experienced in data restoration.

Sounds like a bad mobo.
You could try replacing the battery, maybe a C port PCB failure.
Other than that as mentioned by TheNewGuy92, a data recovery specialist. The memory may already be unrecoverable though especially if that chipset is the one that failed.
Always back up critical data redundantly... says us who have already lost databases.

S10eandtears said:
... Could I just be unlucky and it is simply a battery that died completely? ...
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Maybe. When my first S10e (bought a second S10e due to so much trouble with first) suddenly dies (which it has done several times now), I have found temporary success by opening the back cover, removing 8 tiny screws to take out top mid-frame, and disconnecting the battery. After waiting a few minutes, I reconnect the battery, put phone back together, and begin charging. At this point, phone is charging while power'd off, and shows 0% for battery level; even after showing like 80% or higher when it black'd out. Then it showly increases from 0% up, at some point over 50%, I reboot; and it works okay until the next black out.
To disconnect battery, I do something like steps #1 through #19 here:
Samsung Galaxy S10e Screen Replacement
Follow this guide to remove and replace a...
www.ifixit.com

MrGoodtunes said:
Maybe. When my first S10e (bought a second S10e due to so much trouble with first) suddenly dies (which it has done several times now), I have found temporary success by opening the back cover, removing 8 tiny screws to take out top mid-frame, and disconnecting the battery. After waiting a few minutes, I reconnect the battery, put phone back together, and begin charging. At this point, phone is charging while power'd off, and shows 0% for battery level; even after showing like 80% or higher when it black'd out. Then it showly increases from 0% up, at some point over 50%, I reboot; and it works okay until the next black out.
To disconnect battery, I do something like steps #1 through #19 here:
Samsung Galaxy S10e Screen Replacement
Follow this guide to remove and replace a...
www.ifixit.com
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Try replacing the battery. Maybe a bad battery controller chip.

TheNewGuy92 said:
flashing would basically make your device a 'new' device... the only thing that comes to mind to keep your data is salvaging the parts (which would be labor intensive as it's basically re-building a phone by hand while it's not clear which among all the parts is/are defective, and even then the parts need to work smoothly together). If you have auto backup setup for the device, it's possible things like messages are saved.
Other than that, you would have to find professionals who are experienced in data restoration.
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I ended up paying for data recovery and they swapped over my components on to a donor motherboard. The interesting thing was the phone was dead again once it got to me but they extracted everything to a usb for me.

S10eandtears said:
I ended up paying for data recovery and they swapped over my components on to a donor motherboard. The interesting thing was the phone was dead again once it got to me but they extracted everything to a usb for me.
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Yay! May I ask roughly how much did that cost?
Who did the recovery?

Mark Shaffer at iPad rehab. First invoice for expedited assessment was second was.​
$108.63
$1,314.36

S10eandtears said:
Mark Shaffer at iPad rehab. First invoice for expedited assessment was second was.​
$108.63
$1,314.36
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So slow boat would have been $108.63?
That's not bad. Glad you where able to recover your data. Lost things can haunt you for a lifetime...

blackhawk said:
So slow boat would have been $108.63?
That's not bad. Glad you where able to recover your data. Lost things can haunt you for a lifetime...
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No that fee was just to have your phone looked at sooner. Still would have been 1200 plus tax for data recovery with donor board.

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No that fee was just to have your phone looked at sooner. Still would have been 1200 plus tax for data recovery with donor board.
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Still reasonable. I figure it be in the thousands.
The important thing is they did recover the data!

blackhawk said:
Still reasonable. I figure it be in the thousands.
The important thing is they did recover the data!
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Agreed it wasn't too bad all things considered.