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Oneplus 8 on Visible - Trying to install ROMs to no avail

Hello anyone. I normally lurk until I can lurk no more, but I'm struggling. I've tried to install every rom I could find, and can't seem to get any to boot. Everything either fails on crashdump during flash (repeatedly), or reboots right back into the fastboot/bootloader menu. I've had to MSM repeatedly, and even that kept failing until I realized I had the wrong version because there is one for Visible specifically (even though Visible and Global are both IN2015).
Main point: Is anybody else using the Visible variant of the Oneplus 8 and able to change roms? I despise stock roms with a passion and don't even want to start the setup process if I can get onto a custom rom instead. So if anybody has advice, I'd certainly take it, but I'm really just asking for the sake of seeing if there's anybody else that has succeeded. If so, I can go off and figure out where I keep screwing it up.
Thanks in advance!
Edit: I'm throwing in the towel. I feel like I've tried everything. Even when it looks like the ROM does finally successfully install, I just get stuck in an infinite "fastboot loop". If there's another Visible OP8 user that has managed to get a custom rom installed, please let me know!

Are you sure the Visible Oneplus is the IN2015? I'm fairly certain they are just using the Verizon 5G UW, which should be an IN2017. I doubt that Verizon or its mvnos are selling true dual sim phones (with dual imeis) even if its firmware locked.

Yeah, I'm fairly certain. It's definitely NOT dual SIM though, but the back is branded "ONEPLUS" (as opposed to "5G") and the volume buttons are higher than the ones that are moved down physically to accommodate for the mm antenna in the Verizon branded device.
The sticker on the back says IN2015, it shows up on Windows and Linux as IN2015. All of these bread crumbs lead me to believe it is a IN2015, except that no guides or outlines that I've followed for the IN2015 have worked, with the sole exception of using the MSM tool explicitly including the Visible firmware. That's what makes me think they have some slightly modified version of the IN2015 global, but haven't been able to track down specifics.
Thanks for the reply though! If there's any other information I can provide that may be helpful, I'll gladly oblige!
Edit: Attached image of the back sticker

Thought I would chime in. Visible's network is very different than you typically would expect. Even if you could flash ROMs, the likelihood of it working with Visible's network is nearly impossible. I was using a Pixel 3a XL when I had Visible. If I tried anything other than stock, it refused to connect. Heavy testing from various devs, and we never could figure out why. Ultimately gave up on it. The lack of ROM support on Visible is why I have T-Mobile now.

We (me and the wife) actually tried out T-mobile via their "Hotspot test drive" program and it just couldn't keep up with some of the "boonies" areas we frequent, so we opted for "big red" but with a cheaper access.
That's actually very helpful, because I was just thinking today that maybe I should have gotten a Pixel like the wife did. I'd be pretty disappointed to find the ROM installed but couldn't get connected (which would inevitably launch me down a wild goose chase of TWRPing modems and the like).
Both replies have been very helpful. Thank you for chiming in!
Edit: On a side note though, if there are any developers looking for a challenge and want to take on the mysterious world of Visible-compatible ROMs, you'd have at least one willing beta participant.

@stompysan How long ago were you trying custom roms with Visible? Apparently it was an issue at one point but has since been corrected? At least, that's what I gather from the discussion here.
Not that I'm trying to "gotcha," of course, but was just curious if you were on T-mobile for the past 12ish months and the problem has been corrected since you were playing with it before.
Edit: I've also dug up that it's becoming increasingly known/confirmed that Visible is rolling around with their own version of the Oneplus 8. Sort of like a hybrid between the global model IN2015, and their own build of it, as denoted by the IN68CE in the "build" section of About info.

I tried to flash stock global rom on visible and even that doesn't work. Got hardbricked to qualcomm crashdump. If anyone can flash global rom into Visible op8 please let me know. Thanks

Hoping for some good news too. I didn't realize dual sim doesn't work when I bought it on visible.

I gave up and got the 8 Pro instead. Still have my 8, but only for a little while longer. I'm going to sell it to offset the cost of the 8 Pro.

Hi I am trying to buy Oneplus 8 from Visible but doesn't intend to use it on Visible network infact i intened to use it on Tmobile network. So i was thinking of buying it from visible and flash Global Oxygen OS A11 on it and root. Use this on Tmobile network. Will this work?I mean can i flash Global Oxygen OS on it or does this had any different version similar to Tmobile branded phone.

deepu458 said:
Hi I am trying to buy Oneplus 8 from Visible but doesn't intend to use it on Visible network infact i intened to use it on Tmobile network. So i was thinking of buying it from visible and flash Global Oxygen OS A11 on it and root. Use this on Tmobile network. Will this work?I mean can i flash Global Oxygen OS on it or does this had any different version similar to Tmobile branded phone.
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As far as I know, nope. You can root and it should connect to tmobile, but the Visible model seems to be stuck running their modified version which is on a dated version of Android 10.

RileyOsno said:
As far as I know, nope. You can root and it should connect to tmobile, but the Visible model seems to be stuck running their modified version which is on a dated version of Android 10.
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Thanks that a deal breaker. I wish that wasn't the case. I thought it can be modified to global variant

Question Google FI S21+ 5G SM-G996U1 Bootloader unlock? Root?

Long story short, I got a brain tumor (that's not going to kill me) but it's messed up my eyesight... which is great... so I decided to finally get rid of my beloved Pixel2 and get something with a larger screen so I could see the thing. Hence the S21+ and... it works for that. The screen is way bigger so it's great.
The problem is, one other thing that really worked well for my eye problem is VR. I have the Google Daydream headset and my eye problem means my left eye kind of moves around on its own. It's super fun... lol... but somehow, the VR tracks that and I can actually see in VR, use the browser, etc... It's not perfect but it gives my eyes a rest. But, apparently this phone doesn't work with Daydream unless I have root and edit some files. So ok, I need root.
My carrier is Google FI and I was under the impression that all of their phones came with OEM unlock, but I have no "OEM Unlock" option in developer tools. I am very confused by all the different information I'm finding out there.
So, here are my questions:
1. Is my phone already OEM unlocked because this is GoogleFI or am I screwed?
2. Is there some other way to get the OEM unlock?
3. I'm assuming there's no way to get root without OEM unlock?
4. Barring all of the above, does anyone know of any way to trick Google Daydream into working on this phone?
5. If I can't get Daydream to work, I can just pop out the daydream RFID thingy and use the headset as if it weren't daydream, but the controller doesn't seem to do anything. Is there a way to set that up? or is it possible to get a "Wand style" controller like this outside of daydream?

1 no
2 pay 150, look for a paid service on 1st page, I personally don't like that, I went with g9960 route
3 correct
4
https://www.reddit.com/r/daydream/comments/5jg33j
5 see pt 4

Thanks! That's a bummer... I'll wait until there's a community unlock somewhere.
The Daydream link you offered doesn't really help me. If you switch to the cardboard headset, it doesn't support the controller anymore. But I did find a post that helped me get it working:
Trying to get Daydream working on the MZP without root.
Can some one please help me edit the Daydream related APK's to automatically pass the checks in /system/etc/permissions/handheld_core_hardware.xml for and
forum.xda-developers.com
Basically you modify and recompile the daydream app.
I still want root, it's unfortunate Samsung sucks.

If your phone's model number is SM-G996U1 then it is unlocked. I'm thinking about getting one. Did you get it directly from Fi?

Lancez said:
If your phone's model number is SM-G996U1 then it is unlocked. I'm thinking about getting one. Did you get it directly from Fi?
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Yes, I got it directly from FI.
So the problem is, I'm not up on the current lingo, but there are multiple kinds of unlocks. In this case, my phone is definitely carrier unlocked. Google FI requires that because it hopps carriers. But is it bootloader unlocked? I'm trying to figure that out, but none of the dialer codes work on this phone. I tried to get to fastboot, but Samsung phones are weird. It's almost like they have their own set of rules. lol
Any idea how I can check the bootloader?

It's been a loooong time since my last Samsung phone. But if my memory serves me well, you can turn off the phone then press and hold vol up or down and power button simultaneously (or even 3 buttons at same time). It'll take you to bootloader or recovery mode. You can try all possible combinations until you get what you want, it won't hurt your phone.
Oh, one more thing. If you are using third party dialer app instead of built-in. All codes are not gonna work.

Fi is offering $300 discount for existing customers, That's a pretty good deal. I'm ordering one right now.

Lancez said:
Oh, one more thing. If you are using third party dialer app instead of built-in. All codes are not gonna work.
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I've tried both the default google dialer and the samsung dialer that came with it. Neither will do anything when I enter a dialer code. :-/

Lancez said:
Fi is offering $300 discount for existing customers, That's a pretty good deal. I'm ordering one right now.
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I've tried a dozen different ways to get this to work. I do not think the bootloader is unlocked, and I do not think its unlockable without that paid services which is $150
OEM unlocking does not exist, even after waiting the 7 days.
I can boot into download mode, but the volume up thing does nothing
If I chose "Reboot to bootloader" it just boots the phone into safemode.
I've read that if you try and flash TWRP with the bootloader locked, it can brick your phone.
I've found no way to check if a samsung phone is bootloader unlocked.
I don't want to flash it, trip knox, and then end up having it bricked. lol

I'll take a look when I have the phone handy next week and keep you updated

Samsung's Galaxy S21 series can now be rooted with Magisk
You can now root your Galaxy S21, Galaxy S21 Plus, and Galaxy S21 Ultra using Magisk. Follow the link in the post for instructions.
www.xda-developers.com
As topjohnwu notes ... as of now, only the Exynos and Hong Kong Snapdragon Galaxy S21 devices can be bootloader unlocked,...
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if that's not true I would be slightly annoyed cuz I spent extra 100$ to get the Hk version

fenvy said:
Samsung's Galaxy S21 series can now be rooted with Magisk
You can now root your Galaxy S21, Galaxy S21 Plus, and Galaxy S21 Ultra using Magisk. Follow the link in the post for instructions.
www.xda-developers.com
if that's not true I would be slightly annoyed cuz I spent extra 100$ to get the Hk version
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It is true. You can root the phone, but you have to unlock the bootloader before you can root it. Currently the only way to unlock the bootloader in the US versions is to pay $150 to the dude that came up with the exploit. If you have the non us version, you can unlock it yourself.

charliemopps said:
I've tried a dozen different ways to get this to work. I do not think the bootloader is unlocked, and I do not think its unlockable without that paid services which is $150
OEM unlocking does not exist, even after waiting the 7 days.
I can boot into download mode, but the volume up thing does nothing
If I chose "Reboot to bootloader" it just boots the phone into safemode.
I've read that if you try and flash TWRP with the bootloader locked, it can brick your phone.
I've found no way to check if a samsung phone is bootloader unlocked.
I don't want to flash it, trip knox, and then end up having it bricked. lol
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Just got my S21+ today and you were right. Bootloader is indeed unlockable by average users at least. I did get into recovery mode by using Vol up+power and I can see there's reboot to bootloader option. But it does nothing other then restarting the phone. I don't know how did you get into safe mode tho. (attached a pic of recovery mode from my phone)
Anyway, I'm pretty happy with the way it is and I personally would not pay anything over 50 bucks to get bootloader unlocked.

Lancez said:
If your phone's model number is SM-G996U1 then it is unlocked. I'm thinking about getting one. Did you get it directly from Fi?
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Unlock means ?
My model is g996u . Will i get ota update ?

Question Is this phone still worth buying for a beginner that wants to root and flash with custom ROM?

I have only ever rooted a tablet before, it was fairly simple though I did run into a few problems. I'm in the market for a new phone and this looks promising though only if I'm able to get rid of MIUI and flash it with something like ArrowOS. I really dislike the launcher, bloatware and ads. After looking into it and reading some guides, I'm worried I'll mess something up and perm brick my brand new phone. The guide to flash ArrowOS on this forum is in-depth, but looks as if there are a lot of pre-cautions involved.
Whenever I follow a guide or tutorial step-by-step, there's an 80/20 chance I'll run into problems. This type of stuff rarely goes smoothly for me which makes me hesitant. Having said that, I really like the specs to price ratio.
Can a beginner root this phone? Is it a pain to get everything working or is it fairly straightforward? Thinking of ordering this phone now so that I can unlock it asap and wait the 7 day period..
Is it worth the root if you just want to get rid of bloatware? I'm also considering just using Lawnchair and ADB to get rid of everything I don't like. I think that would be the safer option. If I use the Lawnchair loader, get rid of bloatware and disable ads I still think that would be good enough. Thoughts? Should I root and flash with custom ROM, lawnchair and adb w/no root, or just get a different phone??
One of the reasons I want a custom ROM is so that I can use something less privacy-invasive. I'm not overly concerned with gaming as I only really use my phone for youtube, texting and videoing.
How often does it overheat??

Yes it is. I haven't been into rooting since 2014, so all this stuff like magisk, etc was completely new to me. But there's a general guide here that's easy to follow (with screenshots as well). You literally can't go wrong since it shows even the smallest of steps. Phone performance wise is amazing, definitely a worthy purchase.

Totally yes. The last device I rooted had Android 4 I believe and this one wasn't hard. I also tried 7 Roms, kernels, etc... Just read carefully and follow instructions as texted. You can get some bootloop for not paying attention or touching things you didn't learn how to use.

dantevn said:
Yes it is. I haven't been into rooting since 2014, so all this stuff like magisk, etc was completely new to me. But there's a general guide here that's easy to follow (with screenshots as well). You literally can't go wrong since it shows even the smallest of steps. Phone performance wise is amazing, definitely a worthy purchase.
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I bought the phone and currently waiting the 7 day period, I'm gonna flash ArrowOS

What US carriers allow the X3?
Also thinking of this phone due to the price and ease of putting a custom rom on, but I know AT&T will not allow it anymore (2022)
Mint Mobile shows many xiaomi are allowable with them, but don’t list the X3 Pro (I assume cause it’s new)

Thebacklash said:
What US carriers allow the X3?
Also thinking of this phone due to the price and ease of putting a custom rom on, but I know AT&T will not allow it anymore (2022)
Mint Mobile shows many xiaomi are allowable with them, but don’t list the X3 Pro (I assume cause it’s new)
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Hey Im from Spain but I checked mint mobile just out of curiosity and is compatible. Is on the list as X3 Pro

Under bring your own phone, as xiaomi?
I see the X3, X3 NFC and a Poco X2, but no Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro.
I’m on mobile atm.. so maybe mintmobile .com works better at home.. I’ll look later.
For the price, I’m tempted to just buy it anyway even if I can’t use it as a phone..

Thebacklash said:
Under bring your own phone, as xiaomi?
I see the X3, X3 NFC and a Poco X2, but no Xiaomi Poco X3 Pro.
I’m on mobile atm.. so maybe mintmobile .com works better at home.. I’ll look later.
For the price, I’m tempted to just buy it anyway even if I can’t use it as a phone..
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Yes, they just don't put the complete name in the new models as I saw.

Easy to install TWRP and then a custom ROM. Just the 7 day wait. I'm sure rooting is easy too.
I see questions about Carriers. I use Google Fi without a problem. They use T-Mobile towers and so does Mint. In theory it should work.

Question Unsupported Countries and Root

Hey guys i need your advice.
Tomorrow my Pixel 7 pro arrives and i am living in an unsupported county. I have read a lot of guides about the root etc. i just want to verify that i will be able to use the full features of the device if i rooted....like call screening, 5g etc. and how risky is to be rooted nowdays because last time i root my phone was 10 years ago....if after the mandatory things i don't install any app outside of the store and don't grant access root will my device be safe ? thank you

try hentaios In the latest update it was activated 5g in unsupported countries

m3ath said:
try hentaios In the latest update it was activated 5g in unsupported countries
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HentaiOS for Pixel 7 Pro? Is it on Telegram or another third-party place?

ekin_strops said:
HentaiOS for Pixel 7 Pro? Is it on Telegram or another third-party place?
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yes for 7 pro and 7
They have a channel in Telegram

I am certainly not an expert. I remember the days of flashing roms. I used to sometimes flash multiple roms a day.
Now most of the features I used to use custom roms for are already in Android.
Also if you have a Pixel you have a pretty clean version of Android.
So I don't really see the point. Maybe in your situation because you are using the phone in an unsupported country you might be able to enable some features but I would think the network bands are hardware based and either your carrier is compatible with the Pixel or not?
IMHO I would not root or install custom software on a brand new phone like a Pixel or other flagship. It generally voids your warranty and if you soft brick the device and can't revive it what do you do? Also with root you have huge security vulnerability. Pixel is supposed to be one of the most secure Android phones so why would you get rid of that benefit?
Also updates would be a pain.
If I had a free cheap phone from a carrier with a crappy version of Android that I would risk rooting and maybe installing a custom ROM but I just don't see the need on a Pixel??

robbbzilla said:
IMHO I would not root or install custom software on a brand new phone like a Pixel or other flagship. It generally voids your warranty and if you soft brick the device and can't revive it what do you do? Also with root you have huge security vulnerability. Pixel is supposed to be one of the most secure Android phones so why would you get rid of that benefit?
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1) It doesn't void your warranty on the Pixel.
2) Root isn't a security vulnerability in and of itself but the unlocked bootloader can be if someone gets ahold of your phone. Seeing how the filesystem is encrypted though, it's not so much a risk to your data as it is to the person being able to steal the phone easier.
3) Most other phones have largely been locked down so a lot of us get the Pixel *because* it can be rooted.
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Also updates would be a pain.
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Not too bad. Pixel Flasher makes the whole process easy. Plug into the computer, launch Pixel Flasher, download the update, click the patch image button so it makes a Magisk image, select that image, flash. It's all done with a user friendly GUI. While it's not as straightforward as updating directly on the phone, it also installs faster, so it's a worthwhile trade off.

EtherealRemnant said:
1) It doesn't void your warranty on the Pixel.
2) Root isn't a security vulnerability in and of itself but the unlocked bootloader can be if someone gets ahold of your phone. Seeing how the filesystem is encrypted though, it's not so much a risk to your data as it is to the person being able to steal the phone easier.
3) Most other phones have largely been locked down so a lot of us get the Pixel *because* it can be rooted.
Not too bad. Pixel Flasher makes the whole process easy. Plug into the computer, launch Pixel Flasher, download the update, click the patch image button so it makes a Magisk image, select that image, flash. It's all done with a user friendly GUI. While it's not as straightforward as updating directly on the phone, it also installs faster, so it's a worthwhile trade off.
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Good to know. I thought enabling root level privileges would cause system wide insecurity.
As I prefaced my comments I am no expert and it has been a long time since I rooted my phones.
That is why it is good to ask questions and learn about the state of things now.
I didn't know that you could root a Pixel device and not void the warranty. I am used to the Samsung lock down.
Also with Pixel or with previous Nexus device it was always fun to see what new features Google would add in a new update/feature drop so I never felt the need to root a Pixel phone.
However if you like rooting and can do so without much risk then why not? I can see the fun in trying different software and gaining better control over your device.

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Good to know. I thought enabling root level privileges would cause system wide insecurity.
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Seeing how you still have to authorize the use of root and Magisk even has added support for fingerprint verification to do so, it's not much more of a risk than having an unrooted device really.
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Also with Pixel or with previous Nexus device it was always fun to see what new features Google would add in a new update/feature drop so I never felt the need to root a Pixel phone.
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You still get this stuff when you're rooted and even on most custom ROMs for Pixel. The only downside comes from apps that don't want to play nice. As long as I can use Google Pay, which I'm able to do after using the SafetyNet fix mod, I don't mind having to use the web browser for a banking app here and there (and right now there's only one that flat out won't work, Security Service FCU, so I'm not too put out by it).

It's a pain in the ass to enable carrier features like VoLTE, VoNR, etc. Pixel features like call screening require phenotype edits, which are also a pain in the ass.

G_Vasi said:
Hey guys i need your advice.
Tomorrow my Pixel 7 pro arrives and i am living in an unsupported county. I have read a lot of guides about the root etc. i just want to verify that i will be able to use the full features of the device if i rooted....like call screening, 5g etc. and how risky is to be rooted nowdays because last time i root my phone was 10 years ago....if after the mandatory things i don't install any app outside of the store and don't grant access root will my device be safe ? thank you
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One bit of warning/caution, I've seen/found a lot of users on this forum who are in other countries (maybe unsupported) biggest issue would be NFC pay & banking apps not working. I personally have only seen a few select apps stated on this forum that can't be launched due to root detection that SafetyNetFix and Zygisk DenyList/Shamiko wasn't able to successfully hide, but there are some -- I myself have Wallet, Gpay, 4 banking apps, Xfinity apps, working while I've discussed with some other users the same banking app not working for them -- that, no matter how much users tried, they were unable to get it working. Supposedly there are combinations of root hiding methods and modules that have blocked mostly all of the stubborn apps, but then there seems to be some apps that merely just having an unlocked bootloader is enough to restrict their use.
So if this might be your situation where you have certain apps (most likely banking) that you can't really live without and/or use daily/frequently but they are known to not run on a rooted & unlocked bootloader device, that's the only real downside to rooting.
Other than that, I believe obtaining root on our device benefits so much far outweighing the risks. If certain things stop working, usually there are workarounds to get them to work or alternatives. If anything, particularly in your case, I don't believe you can get those features of 5G and call screening and camera sound and VPN and whatever other feature is restricted in an unsupported country without root....
So there are them pros & cons...

Thank you for your answers guys.....I also think that pros are more than cons....as far as I know and from the ways I found here my Bank apps will work normally.....and also I found a tutorial here that say it will enable all the Pixel features in unsupported countries so hopefully it will work...if by any case anyone tried it I would like to hear the feedback especially for google screening.

Question Rooting Pixel 7 Pro or Pixel 6 is it worth it?

For starters I apologize for the lack of formatting Ill do my best but I'm not used to posting on forums, but I want to make a informed decision and over the years I have found this is the best place to find the answers I'm looking for.
The First Question
I'm debating with myself on two things. Should I root my Google Pixel 7 Pro (my new daily driver) or My Google Pixel 6 (my previous daily driver)?
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The deciding factors would be​
1. Do I lose tap pay functionality?
I consider this because I rooted Google Pixel 5a and I couldn't figure out for the life of me how to re-enable "secure apps" such as google wallet and banking apps.
In essence I don't want any functionality missing or disabled as a result of rooting and not setting something up properly. If this is avoidable please let me know and shoot me over available resources.
This goes for both phones regardless id like everything to work properly on either phone. I would rather not root the 7 Pro if it meant these types of apps work properly.
2. Are there any benefits or differences when it comes to rooting the 7 Pro vs the 6?
The answers to this question will help me weight the options, for instance if there is a decent enough benefit to rooting the 7 Pro then I might just forgo the "secure apps" mentioned in the last question.
I have been in and out of the rooting scheme for a while now and its hard to get updated with current app, edits, extensions, etc. I wouldn't even know what to look for.... depending on how this post goes Ill probaly make another post to ask what kind of stuff root has to offer these days, but for now if you guys can give me any general but impactful information on the differences/benefit/compatibility of rooting one device or the other, I would be grateful.
3. Which device would be easier to root and consistently update?
Right now I have a ATT carrier locked (I didn't buy it from ATT, I bought it from a used phone store and neither of them can or will unlock it...) Pixel 7 Pro and a T-Mobile (soft unlocked) Pixel 6. I have seen a guide for the Pixel 7 Pro and it seems simple enough, and I'm not to sure about the 6 because as I was looking around I was getting some people saying it is possible and others saying its not. I mainly just want to root either phone and have a simple-ish way to update it.
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The Second Question​Is it worth doing?
I know this is mainly a personal preference thing. I like being able to use things like titanium backup, or quick switch, or substrate themes, etc. I am heavily into customization and a lot of things can't be customized the way Id like to be able to. On top of that the ability to hyper configure the device to do exactly what you want when you want is exactly what I want.
This question is mainly to get a properly list of pro's and cons, so I can further weight my options.
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If you guys don't mind with your guy's answers if you could post some updated resources I can look at for root apps and tweaks that would be great.
Thank you for helping me figure this out, and if you didn't or don't want to that's fine too, I'm just glad somebody read this xD.​

It seems like chatgpt is striking again. You asked it a question and it posted it? The links for rooting and what you can do are on page one. You see the awkward wording, ufff.

Kai2150 said:
1. Do I lose tap pay functionality?​
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No. P7P rooted here, tap-to-pay works. You will of course need USNF mod by Displax and Shamiko.
Kai2150 said:
2. Are there any benefits or differences when it comes to rooting the 7 Pro vs the 6?​
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I don't own the P6P so I can't compare, but P7P has a newer chip and I would be inclined to use it as my daily driver.
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3. Which device would be easier to root and consistently update?​
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Both should be equally easy using PixelFlasher. Keep in mind that P7P patches init_boot.img and not boot.img. You'll find that explained in details in the relevant PixelFlasher thread(s).
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Is it worth doing?
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AdAway / AdGuard
AOSP Mods (since you're into customisations)
Better Internet Tiles
Mixplorer
Repainter
SD Maid
SmartHertz
Substratum Lite
Swift Backup (best replacement for Titanium Backup)
Termux
Themer
Warden (to kill all app trackers in one go)
You decide.

wangdaning said:
It seems like chatgpt is striking again. You asked it a question and it posted it? The links for rooting and what you can do are on page one. You see the awkward wording, ufff.
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No i wrote that all my self lol

Fishawy said:
No. P7P rooted here, tap-to-pay works. You will of course need USNF mod by Displax and Shamiko.
I don't own the P6P so I can't compare, but P7P has a newer chip and I would be inclined to use it as my daily driver.
Both should be equally easy using PixelFlasher. Keep in mind that P7P patches init_boot.img and not boot.img. You'll find that explained in details in the relevant PixelFlasher thread(s).
AdAway / AdGuard
AOSP Mods (since you're into customisations)
Better Internet Tiles
Mixplorer
Repainter
SD Maid
SmartHertz
Substratum Lite
Swift Backup (best replacement for Titanium Backup)
Termux
Themer
Warden (to kill all app trackers in one go)
You decide.
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Alright you make a good case, could you link me to the various pages with the information for both the PixelFlasher and the above apps/modules

Fishawy said:
No. P7P rooted here, tap-to-pay works. You will of course need USNF mod by Displax and Shamiko.
I don't own the P6P so I can't compare, but P7P has a newer chip and I would be inclined to use it as my daily driver.
Both should be equally easy using PixelFlasher. Keep in mind that P7P patches init_boot.img and not boot.img. You'll find that explained in details in the relevant PixelFlasher thread(s).
AdAway / AdGuard
AOSP Mods (since you're into customisations)
Better Internet Tiles
Mixplorer
Repainter
SD Maid
SmartHertz
Substratum Lite
Swift Backup (best replacement for Titanium Backup)
Termux
Themer
Warden (to kill all app trackers in one go)
You decide.
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Do you know if I can unroot? Like say i cant get the banking apps to work and want to go back could I unroot and get access to those apps back?

Kai2150 said:
Do you know if I can unroot? Like say i cant get the banking apps to work and want to go back could I unroot and get access to those apps back?
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Root
Pixel Flasher
Universal SafetyNet Fix
AdAway
AOSP Mods
The rest can be found here on XDA or on Play Store.
Not sure about unroot since I don't need it, perhaps a bit of a read in P7P forum here can help.

Reflash stock init_boot.img and you will be unrooted. Depending, you might have to do a factory reset and bootloader relock. It really depends on the apps and such.

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For starters I apologize for the lack of formatting Ill do my best but I'm not used to posting on forums, but I want to make a informed decision and over the years I have found this is the best place to find the answers I'm looking for.
The First Question
I'm debating with myself on two things. Should I root my Google Pixel 7 Pro (my new daily driver) or My Google Pixel 6 (my previous daily driver)?
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The deciding factors would be​
1. Do I lose tap pay functionality?
I consider this because I rooted Google Pixel 5a and I couldn't figure out for the life of me how to re-enable "secure apps" such as google wallet and banking apps.
In essence I don't want any functionality missing or disabled as a result of rooting and not setting something up properly. If this is avoidable please let me know and shoot me over available resources.
This goes for both phones regardless id like everything to work properly on either phone. I would rather not root the 7 Pro if it meant these types of apps work properly.
2. Are there any benefits or differences when it comes to rooting the 7 Pro vs the 6?
The answers to this question will help me weight the options, for instance if there is a decent enough benefit to rooting the 7 Pro then I might just forgo the "secure apps" mentioned in the last question.
I have been in and out of the rooting scheme for a while now and its hard to get updated with current app, edits, extensions, etc. I wouldn't even know what to look for.... depending on how this post goes Ill probaly make another post to ask what kind of stuff root has to offer these days, but for now if you guys can give me any general but impactful information on the differences/benefit/compatibility of rooting one device or the other, I would be grateful.
3. Which device would be easier to root and consistently update?
Right now I have a ATT carrier locked (I didn't buy it from ATT, I bought it from a used phone store and neither of them can or will unlock it...) Pixel 7 Pro and a T-Mobile (soft unlocked) Pixel 6. I have seen a guide for the Pixel 7 Pro and it seems simple enough, and I'm not to sure about the 6 because as I was looking around I was getting some people saying it is possible and others saying its not. I mainly just want to root either phone and have a simple-ish way to update it.
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The Second Question​Is it worth doing?
I know this is mainly a personal preference thing. I like being able to use things like titanium backup, or quick switch, or substrate themes, etc. I am heavily into customization and a lot of things can't be customized the way Id like to be able to. On top of that the ability to hyper configure the device to do exactly what you want when you want is exactly what I want.
This question is mainly to get a properly list of pro's and cons, so I can further weight my options.
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Thats the end for this post
If you guys don't mind with your guy's answers if you could post some updated resources I can look at for root apps and tweaks that would be great.
Thank you for helping me figure this out, and if you didn't or don't want to that's fine too, I'm just glad somebody read this xD.​
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Just a note/thought...
I'm not entirely sure you'll be able to root either device (Pixel 6 or P7P)...carrier variant Pixel's are notoriously inconsistent (& sometimes just as difficult) to get the bootloader unlocked -- which is necessary to root. Apparently, carriers vary -- Verizon is a nonstarter and is for the most part impossible -- and, from what I've seen around the forum here, a lot of the times you'll need to pay off the device fully to get the carrier to send the signal to SIM unlock your device which will get the OEM unlock tick enabled (another necessity to root). You've stated that AT&T already has given you a hard time and has yet to unlock it, and from what I recall AT&T is similar in T-Mo that you must get it SIM unlocked -- so if they won't get that far, your options might be limited in terms of the Pixel 7 Pro that is an AT&T variant. In a lot of cases for T-Mobile, speaking them through Twitter support and/or regular customer service support can get them to send that signal that will SIM unlock (depending on what you tell them; i.e. you are a developer and require for it to be unlocked, you are traveling internationally and need to input another SIM temporarily, etc.); I'm unsure if you can do the same for AT&T.
Another note/thought is that, after rooting, updating isn't too difficult, BUT it is not as easy as using the built-in System Update process. Using the tool PixelFlasher makes it very straightforward and basically is almost the closest way to have a one-click update method, but it isn't as easy. BUT it is DEFINITELY faster than updating via OTA using the built-in System Update process (3-5 minutes vs. 20+ minutes)!
Lastly, be aware that in order to root, you must unlock your bootloader, and when you unlock your bootloader, it is required that your device is wiped -- since you speak as if you've used both devices at least a fair amount (moreso your Pixel 6 as it's been your daily driver for a while now), I'm sure there is also a fair amount of data and customizations on there that you will now have to re-enter, re-setup, re-transfer, re-download, and the like...
Just some thoughts that you might want to keep in mind...good luck to you!

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Just a note/thought...
I'm not entirely sure you'll be able to root either device (Pixel 6 or P7P)...carrier variant Pixel's are notoriously inconsistent (& sometimes just as difficult) to get the bootloader unlocked -- which is necessary to root. Apparently, carriers vary -- Verizon is a nonstarter and is for the most part impossible -- and, from what I've seen around the forum here, a lot of the times you'll need to pay off the device fully to get the carrier to send the signal to SIM unlock your device which will get the OEM unlock tick enabled (another necessity to root). You've stated that AT&T already has given you a hard time and has yet to unlock it, and from what I recall AT&T is similar in T-Mo that you must get it SIM unlocked -- so if they won't get that far, your options might be limited in terms of the Pixel 7 Pro that is an AT&T variant. In a lot of cases for T-Mobile, speaking them through Twitter support and/or regular customer service support can get them to send that signal that will SIM unlock (depending on what you tell them; i.e. you are a developer and require for it to be unlocked, you are traveling internationally and need to input another SIM temporarily, etc.); I'm unsure if you can do the same for AT&T.
Another note/thought is that, after rooting, updating isn't too difficult, BUT it is not as easy as using the built-in System Update process. Using the tool PixelFlasher makes it very straightforward and basically is almost the closest way to have a one-click update method, but it isn't as easy. BUT it is DEFINITELY faster than updating via OTA using the built-in System Update process (3-5 minutes vs. 20+ minutes)!
Lastly, be aware that in order to root, you must unlock your bootloader, and when you unlock your bootloader, it is required that your device is wiped -- since you speak as if you've used both devices at least a fair amount (moreso your Pixel 6 as it's been your daily driver for a while now), I'm sure there is also a fair amount of data and customizations on there that you will now have to re-enter, re-setup, re-transfer, re-download, and the like...
Just some thoughts that you might want to keep in mind...good luck to you!
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Yeah I spent the entire night I made this post trying to bypass the OEM lock and that morning called the providers and neither of them can unlock it, which is BS cause I'm not the person who didn't pay their bill. I'm just going to wait until someone finds a work around, if y'all figure something out lemme know.

I do not even need a smartphone without root rights !!
We should push legislation so that Google will must include root access by default in the settings for any Android device !!

Kai2150 said:
Yeah I spent the entire night I made this post trying to bypass the OEM lock and that morning called the providers and neither of them can unlock it, which is BS cause I'm not the person who didn't pay their bill. I'm just going to wait until someone finds a work around, if y'all figure something out lemme know.
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Sorry to hear that...but it is as I feared...
Unfortunately you shouldn't hold your breath. Locked down Pixels are fairly notorious about not being able to bypass; Verizon has locked down every Pixel since the original, with bounties $4k+ offering to bypass/unlock, all without success -- I'm unsure if there was ever one with other carriers. The only time there was a "work around" was with the original Pixel seven years ago, which was patched within a month or two. There hasn't been one since...

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Sorry to hear that...but it is as I feared...
Unfortunately you shouldn't hold your breath. Locked down Pixels are fairly notorious about not being able to bypass; Verizon has locked down every Pixel since the original, with bounties $4k+ offering to bypass/unlock, all without success -- I'm unsure if there was ever one with other carriers. The only time there was a "work around" was with the original Pixel seven years ago, which was patched within a month or two. There hasn't been one since...
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Yeah outta the 4 Pixels I own, Pixel 7 Pro, Pixel 6, Pixel 5a, and the Pixel 4, the only one that i can root is the pixel 5a which is annoying because it has lower specs and Refresh rate. The Pixel 7 Pro is locked to ATT bought through a third party and they said since i dont know the person who bought it and because there is a balance owed on the device there is no way to unlock it. The Pixel 6 is locked to Sprint/T-Mobile same situation as the P7P, and the 4 is Verizon locked and they said they dont even have it in their system, so yet again no way for me to get it unlocked.
I'm going out on a limb and gonna say there is likely no way to get these unlocked right now but if anyone see's this and knows of a way to convice these people at these companies to unlock the phones let me know cause as of right now i think it is impossible to get the phones unlocked via an unlock service or a program

Kai2150 said:
Yeah outta the 4 Pixels I own, Pixel 7 Pro, Pixel 6, Pixel 5a, and the Pixel 4, the only one that i can root is the pixel 5a which is annoying because it has lower specs and Refresh rate. The Pixel 7 Pro is locked to ATT bought through a third party and they said since i dont know the person who bought it and because there is a balance owed on the device there is no way to unlock it. The Pixel 6 is locked to Sprint/T-Mobile same situation as the P7P, and the 4 is Verizon locked and they said they dont even have it in their system, so yet again no way for me to get it unlocked.
I'm going out on a limb and gonna say there is likely no way to get these unlocked right now but if anyone see's this and knows of a way to convice these people at these companies to unlock the phones let me know cause as of right now i think it is impossible to get the phones unlocked via an unlock service or a program
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It seems that if you are interested & fine with getting 3rd party second-hand devices, places like Swappa.com is a great place to purchase that you can be sure is global unlocked/no-carrier-variant and has checks/redundancies/ways-of-confirming that the device being sold is legit; if anything you should be able to message the seller and ask for the IMEI so you can check with all the carriers to see if the device is free and clear in their systems...
If this is where you bought your devices and/or you know of this place, you can please disregard the suggestion