Basically what happens is I get old texts from previous conversations as if they were new. They will come in randomly but tend to follow the sequence of the conversation, so it basically replays the conversation but slowly over the day. Seems to affect group chats more. It makes following conversations very hard since they are full of old texts that are not relevant but they show up as new. Also annoying to keep getting notifications when I'm actually waiting for a text only to see that it's an old text that I got days ago.
Current phone is Google Pixel 4A with CalyxOS, but I've also tried Graphene OS and had the same issue. I've tried the stock app as well as QKSMS. I did not get the issue with Signal (using as SMS client) but they dropped support for SMS, so this started back again as soon as I switched off Signal. I even tried putting the sim card in my old phone (stock android) and it's still doing it! This part is strange to me because when this problem first surfaced, doing this did fix the problem.
How do I make this stop or begin troubleshooting this? Nobody in my contacts is having this issue so trying to convince them to switch to another messaging system is kind of futile, this is my problem. I am starting to wonder if I should just get an iphone like everyone else because it just works, but I really hate the closed nature of apple ecosystem.
I was thinking of looking into how to do app development and modify an existing open source client so that it ignores texts that have a send date older than 24h, but before I do that, is there already a text client for Android available in the F droid store or as an APK that would have such a feature?
So this is not just group chats like I thought. Starting to get old texts I got from single conversations now. Even pictures get resent. These show up as new texts, though they still have the original send date. This will at least make it easier to filter these out.
Anyone have an ideas how to make this stop? Driving me insane. I really don't want to have to write my own app.
Anyone? This problem is driving me insane. It started happening with a vengeonce again. I am being bombarded by old texts that I already got days ago. It's just playing out the entire conversation over the course of a few days. Have to put the phone in airplane mode to make it stop otherwise the phone is just lit up non stop with old texts coming in.
At very least is there some kind of logging of sorts I can enable that would help me better troubleshoot this?
Inreally dont know but i Remember this happened to me sometime ,maybe Just try a factory reset or change rom , i dont know
I tried several roms, resets etc. While it was happening I even put the sim card in another phone and it started doing it on that phone too. It's also not a carrier issue since I'm the only person having this issue. I've also tried all sorts of text apps. The only one it didn't do it with was Signal but they dropped SMS support, which really sucks.
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This afternoon, just after sending an SMS to the wrong person (A "Kiss" to a business partner instead of the GF... great... But this is a known Android bug, I wont even complain about this...), when I went back to the main screen of conversations most of them had disappeared and the ones left were nearly empty
Granted I have quite a lot of SMS (A few thousands) but I dare to hope the issue doesnt come from there (My old Windnows Mobile TP2 could handle 20,000 without any issue)
I hesitate between calling it a shame, or ridiculous or whatever you want to call it... But definitely unprofessional, not serious and a definitive let down for the device
It happens I am backing up my SMS with My:IQ from BestBuy and it's presently rebuilding the whole SMS history (Hopefully without losses... I don't know yet)
Am I the only one who had this issue. Is it a well known problem? If yes anything to do to avoid this to happen again ? I start to be quite worried about the safety of my data...
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This afternoon, just after sending an SMS to the wrong person (A "Kiss" to a business partner instead of the GF... great... But this is a known Android bug, I wont even complain about this...), when I went back to the main screen of conversations most of them had disappeared and the ones left were nearly empty
Granted I have quite a lot of SMS (A few thousands) but I dare to hope the issue doesnt come from there (My old Windnows Mobile TP2 could handle 20,000 without any issue)
I hesitate between calling it a shame, or ridiculous or whatever you want to call it... But definitely unprofessional, not serious and a definitive let down for the device
It happens I am backing up my SMS with My:IQ from BestBuy and it's presently rebuilding the whole SMS history (Hopefully without losses... I don't know yet)
Am I the only one who had this issue. Is it a well known problem? If yes anything to do to avoid this to happen again ? I start to be quite worried about the safety of my data...
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If you want peace of mind you can install SMS Backup & Restore which can backup your messages in the background on a schedule, and then purge your old SMS messages now and then. I find it extremely unlikely that you need to keep thousands of SMS messages on the phone at all times. Archiving them off will speed up the application and reduce the likelihood of you losing them.
Software isn't perfect, don't keep a single copy of something that you NEED to retain without backing it up somewhere. Personally I don't care if all of my SMS's get erased now & then for 2 reasons, I back them up, and if there's anything important, I make a note of it elsewhere.
This is the first I've heard of the problem so if it's a bug with all versions of the firmware, then it's not one I've heard of. Have you checked for an update for your device?
I am using the JME ROM
Yes it could be a bug of my firmware. However havent had any issue for weeks and this suddenly happened
I bckup everything live with My;IQ
I though t about using a second backup and your suggestion is more than welcome. My worry with My:IQ is the potential doubling of SMS (in theory it doesn't happen but... in the past I saw strange things with other softwares...) and other potential issues caused by the defects on my device side (half crashed datadase or whatever)
I agree with you on backuping... Al my data are usually saved on a RAID6 system duplicated on another external HD. My emails are duplicated in several places, etc...
Anyway I ma curious to know if others experienced the same issue or if I was just unluky (ie it's unlikely this will happen often). To be honest what worries me is less the firmware than potential interactions issues between the SMS app and some other of my apps (my:IQ or other apps, I have no idea)
The Problem:
Sometime last week, several--but not all--of my text messages disappeared from both Google Hangouts and my native SMS app. Only recent texts went missing, while past messages from those same people were visible in the Contact History. I noticed for two reasons: 1) my incoming messages after last Monday all were basically new threads and the previous texts with those individuals/groups were gone, and 2) I needed to keep a record of a particular thread with my ex who became abusive in the case that I would need to file a restraining order. He is bright, but borderline which means he's unstable. I am anxious about having lost those texts with him and also insatiably curious, which is why I'm posting here.
Sidenote: Yes, I have heard of SMS Backup & Restore. No, I did not use it before. Yes, I plan to use it in the future.
My Phone Details:
Samsung Galaxy S3 (SGH-T999L)
Android version 4.3
Baseband version T999LUVUBNF4
Sidenote: I know missing texts is a known issue with this phone, so if that is what you think it is after reading this, please tell me. However, it's bothersome to me because all threads before 3/23 disappeared from my SMS app, BUT I can still see *some* (but not all!) texts by looking through my contact history. Also bothersome is that on 3/20, I told my ex (by text) that if he did not stop contacting me, I would file a restraining order. Of course this mysterious loss of data could be completely coincidental, too.
What I've Tried So Far
1. I tried to use Dr.Fone software to find the lost messages. It got stuck at the "Analyzing Device" screen, so no luck there.
2. Yesterday, I rooted my phone after poring over this website for several hours. I used CF Autoroot. Although I was unsuccessful at using adb commands on both my phone (Terminal Emulator) and computer (SDK), I was able to navigate the root directories using ROM Toolbox Pro (Hallelujah! That process was driving me crazy!).
3. I looked at all the "mmssms.db" databases (/databases/com.android.providers.telephony/mmssms.db) - no luck. It only contained the recent messages that are visible in the SMS app.
4. I discovered that I could see older text messages by looking through the Contact History (View Contact > History). Many threads were deleted all the way back to 2014, but 1 thread still had texts from 3/22/15. So, I went on the hunt and discovered "logs.db" (/databases/com.sec.android.provider.logsprovider/logs.db).
5. In logs.db, I could see up to 1000 rows with the names of people, including those people whose threads were deleted. Their names and numbers are all present and accounted for, but when I view the M_Content column, I see a bunch of blank spaces where text content should be, all the way back until April of 2014 (with the exception of the thread with 2 texts on 3/22/15).
Other Strange Happenings
This could be selective memory, but in the last week my phone has been acting very strangely, turning off spontaneously, even when charged, and getting lots of error messages (Sorry, X App must close).
The Chicken Or The Egg
What do you think? Is my phone glitching and therefore I lost the data, or did I lose the data, perhaps by some nefarious means, and therefore my phone is glitching? Does this sound like a typical data loss situation to you?
Final Caveats
Please use layman's terms. I am not an expert by any stretch, so the more jargon used to advise, the more hours I will spend trying to discern what you are trying to tell me.
Thank you in advance for your help.
So here's what is going on:
I had an iPhone, iMessage enabled. Moved to a Note 5 and continued my group text with 2 other iPhone users and one Android user. I don't remember specifically when I got the phone if everyone was responding or not, but I believe they were.
Somewhere along the lines one of the users stopped responding and a day or two later sent a message to us saying he received all of our texts one morning about 3 am in a group. Ever since then messaging has been a problem.
I can send group messages to the 4 of us, 2 of them get it, and this one iPhone user can't. Tested just me, him and the other iphone user - same issue.
He's tried factory resetting the phone, a new SIM card, updating the OS and probably a couple other things.
I've tried removing my devices from iMessage, calling apple to ensure I'm removed, even tried texting from Pinger as a test. It all indicates his phone is causing issues.
However, last night he shut off some sort of wi-fi assist where I think it uses both cell and wi-fi to send data (I think I read this feature was enabled by default on the new IOS9)
That seemed to work but then I noticed I wasn't getting the OTHER iPhone's text messages, but he was getting mine.
Went to another group text without the original iphone user in it but the second iphone user in it, and he and I can text just fine.
So basically, as it stands right now, I want to pull my hair out. I can't tell if this issue is on my end since I switched from an iPhone to an Android, or if its on their end. I had an issue a couple years ago when Is witched off my iphone where I didn't get anyone's iMessages in a group text - that was at the time when Apple's whole deal with contacts and iMessages came out so I fell into that problem.
I have no idea what to look at, how to test this any more and it's really actually infuriating. It's 2015. I should be able to send a text message to two or three people at one time without it causing issues.
Also - is there a way to shut off group messages as an MMS? I think that might be part of the problem but I don't know what I'm looking for.
Thank you.
Hello, I've had the unlocked Note 10+ for a few weeks and have had chronic issues since day one and not really sure what to do about it. A lot of the issues seem to get worse over time. Not sure if the problems are related, but it feels like it.
First, I have MMS issues mostly with any other app but the built in messaging app and even that one isn't perfect. Using Textra for instance will get me MMS timeouts sending and receiving and sometimes messages don't send or come in. This seems to happen with or without wifi enabled.
Next, I'm getting delayed notifications on many if not all apps. Notifications will some in here or there, then all of a sudden I'll get all the notifications for the day all at once. So suddenly my phone is going crazy receiving 50 notifications from different apps all at once. Related to that, if I get a notification and click on it to open the related app, often nothing happens. Then like an hour or more later the app I clicked on for the notification will pop open in the middle of doing something else. It will also get hung up installing or updating apps. A reboot will usually clear this but at some point it get's stuck again and will take hours to install an app if it does at all.
I've done all the usual things like disabling battery optimization for the apps in question, set the phone to high performance mode. Uninstalled and reinstalled things, cleared the cache partition, reset network settings, checked APN settings, even now have factory reset the phone, twice, got a new SIM card. Talked to Samsung and they tell me I need to mail it to their repair depot in Texas if I think it's hardware.
So no idea where to go with this. Seems hard to believe it's a hardware problem and sending the phone away for a week or more doesn't seem like a great option, especially when they might just send it back as it works OK for awhile after a reboot.
Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks
After you reset the phone, did you install apps manually from store or let it go off a backup?
Also, just an idea but maybe the tower servicing you is acting up.. Unless it's been happening in multiple areas.
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That is a good point, I did let it install automatically from the Google backup. It wasn't a true restore the way I would generally think of it as everything was installed from scratch, but maybe some settings are getting put back that are messed up. It happens out of the are as well, but I did talk to my carrier and they claimed the did some stuff at the tower that might help. I usually think that means they go get coffee then tell me to reboot the phone. Maybe this evening I'll try a fresh install with no restore. Sort of sucks of course as that's a lot more work to get going, but what the hell at this point. Thanks.
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That is a good point, I did let it install automatically from the Google backup. It wasn't a true restore the way I would generally think of it as everything was installed from scratch, but maybe some settings are getting put back that are messed up. It happens out of the are as well, but I did talk to my carrier and they claimed the did some stuff at the tower that might help. I usually think that means they go get coffee then tell me to reboot the phone. Maybe this evening I'll try a fresh install with no restore. Sort of sucks of course as that's a lot more work to get going, but what the hell at this point. Thanks.
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Sorry for the late reply. I have a note 10+ myself now unlocked and seeing some texting issues where I don't receive text or mms from Apple phones. Hasn't happened with Android to Android though.
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So none of that reinstall stuff helped me. On texting I finally tried the Google Messages app with chat features enabled when it was leaked. Messages alone didn't work, but enabling RCS did and now it actually works better than ever. I hate giving up on textra, but I like the sheer speed of sending giant MMS messages now.
On the notifications thing, the thing that finally got that working right was disabling the Google app. As soon as I did that, all is working as expected. Of course that breaks some Google stuff, but at the moment that's what I have to do to make this work. Even upgrading to Android 10 betas didn't allow me to turn that back on.
I have a Google Pixel 4A 5G with CalyxOS. Also tried Graphene OS. The stock texting app in those OSes does not support group chats which I use a lot with family, so I ended up installing QKSMS as it's the only app I can find that does support group chats and that works decently.
However, randomly I will start getting old texts back, it's super annoying. It basically replays a past conversation and I just get all the same texts. At one point it got so bad I had to just switch back to my old phone because I was being bombarded with old texts. Now it happens maybe once a day, where it replays the conversation from a week ago. But it's random, sometimes it's a conversation from a day ago.
I also tried an experiment, when it started to happen I put it in airplane mode to see if it continues and it stopped, and when I took it out of airplane mode it started again. So it's like if the phone is actually queering the server to retrieve the messages again. Is there a way to make this stop? I just want to get the texts once. Or is there a way I can troubleshoot this, like some kind of logging I can check to see why it's doing this?
Also open to trying another texting app if it's related to this particular app, I just have not found any in the Fdroid store that seem to do group chats, and it's hard to test this feature without trying it and it annoys people when I do it.
Just bumping... really hoping someone can know how to make this stop.
I tried switching to Signal (still SMS/MMS since that's what everyone I know uses) and it's still doing it. So this is not an issue with the specific texting app...
I really don't know what to do anymore, this is so annoying. I may give in and go back to stock android but I really hate all the spying crap it does.