This afternoon, just after sending an SMS to the wrong person (A "Kiss" to a business partner instead of the GF... great... But this is a known Android bug, I wont even complain about this...), when I went back to the main screen of conversations most of them had disappeared and the ones left were nearly empty
Granted I have quite a lot of SMS (A few thousands) but I dare to hope the issue doesnt come from there (My old Windnows Mobile TP2 could handle 20,000 without any issue)
I hesitate between calling it a shame, or ridiculous or whatever you want to call it... But definitely unprofessional, not serious and a definitive let down for the device
It happens I am backing up my SMS with My:IQ from BestBuy and it's presently rebuilding the whole SMS history (Hopefully without losses... I don't know yet)
Am I the only one who had this issue. Is it a well known problem? If yes anything to do to avoid this to happen again ? I start to be quite worried about the safety of my data...
Alcibiade said:
This afternoon, just after sending an SMS to the wrong person (A "Kiss" to a business partner instead of the GF... great... But this is a known Android bug, I wont even complain about this...), when I went back to the main screen of conversations most of them had disappeared and the ones left were nearly empty
Granted I have quite a lot of SMS (A few thousands) but I dare to hope the issue doesnt come from there (My old Windnows Mobile TP2 could handle 20,000 without any issue)
I hesitate between calling it a shame, or ridiculous or whatever you want to call it... But definitely unprofessional, not serious and a definitive let down for the device
It happens I am backing up my SMS with My:IQ from BestBuy and it's presently rebuilding the whole SMS history (Hopefully without losses... I don't know yet)
Am I the only one who had this issue. Is it a well known problem? If yes anything to do to avoid this to happen again ? I start to be quite worried about the safety of my data...
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If you want peace of mind you can install SMS Backup & Restore which can backup your messages in the background on a schedule, and then purge your old SMS messages now and then. I find it extremely unlikely that you need to keep thousands of SMS messages on the phone at all times. Archiving them off will speed up the application and reduce the likelihood of you losing them.
Software isn't perfect, don't keep a single copy of something that you NEED to retain without backing it up somewhere. Personally I don't care if all of my SMS's get erased now & then for 2 reasons, I back them up, and if there's anything important, I make a note of it elsewhere.
This is the first I've heard of the problem so if it's a bug with all versions of the firmware, then it's not one I've heard of. Have you checked for an update for your device?
I am using the JME ROM
Yes it could be a bug of my firmware. However havent had any issue for weeks and this suddenly happened
I bckup everything live with My;IQ
I though t about using a second backup and your suggestion is more than welcome. My worry with My:IQ is the potential doubling of SMS (in theory it doesn't happen but... in the past I saw strange things with other softwares...) and other potential issues caused by the defects on my device side (half crashed datadase or whatever)
I agree with you on backuping... Al my data are usually saved on a RAID6 system duplicated on another external HD. My emails are duplicated in several places, etc...
Anyway I ma curious to know if others experienced the same issue or if I was just unluky (ie it's unlikely this will happen often). To be honest what worries me is less the firmware than potential interactions issues between the SMS app and some other of my apps (my:IQ or other apps, I have no idea)
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Well.. I seemed to have somehow solved my SMS bug accidentally. I was suffering from it from day 1 when I restored my 2000+ messages. I gave up on trying to tweak it, and decided to concentrate on moving my picture MMSes over from my Diamond.
(along the way I concluded none of the backup softwares can really work with picture MMSes.. but that's another story.)
I'll state upfront I don't really know what I did that fixed the problem, but I'm very sure the problem of SMS stuck in the outbox is fixed, I seem to get all my SMSes and only my msg threads with more than 300 msgs take a while (3s - 5s?) to load.
The interface loads EVERY single msg. Doesn't anyone at HTC use MSN?
Here's what I did when I gave up with the MMSes. Something along the way solved the problem. Or maybe I got lucky.
1) deleted the messages that were previously MMSes in both inbox and sent box.
Every single one.
Didn't study much, but I realised through testing, my restored MMSes were causing some problems. In traditional mode, I could not reply to a single restored MMS, but a single restored SMS was fine. In conversation mode, conversations with restored MMSes had a lag, while those with only SMS didn't. The sent/received fields also seem screwed up somehow.
Furthermore, none of the softwares I tried using to restore couldn't bring my picture MMSes back to life. (sentimental value, else I'll just save the images)
That's why I decided to just kill all of them for now. I used Jeyo Mobile to delete those "former-MMSes" from my HD2.
2) Exited Sense by removing it from Today
BTW, this was fresh from a Hard Reset, so there's nothing else in the system.
3) Using Jeyo Mobile, deleted the (previously unseen) folder Conversations from the sms inbox
Don't know why, I keep seeing it reappear. Seems to cause problems when it's not properly indexed. the UI seems to duplicate the latest msg from each contact into it, and that'll be the start of the threads.
3) Clear the deleted items folder using Jeyo
Including manually deleting the Conversations folder that was stuck in it.
4) Back up the SMSes
I had no email, nothing in draft as the UI doesn't index them properly. Only left stuff in Inbox and Sent. I used Jeyo Mobile Companion 2.1. Feel free to try others.
5) Hard Reset
6) Restore the SMSes
Here's where it's hazy again. I might have tried alot of combis, as the UI doesn't index the msgs properly for conversations all the time. Idea was to restore and let the UI index it properly. Here's the possible permutations:
a) I might have exited Sense.
b) I might have left the HTC msging interface in traditional
c) I might have left the HTC msging interface in conversation
Chances are, it's in conversation.
I restored the msgs using Jeyo. (it's stored in a XML file, so other text based backups may work too)
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I only realised that the problem is fixed a few days later, as I realised that the next few days, I got my SMS reports instantly, and I never had a SMS stuck. My newly received and sent MMSes worked perfectly too.
I'm trying not to touch that msging part of my phone now that it is working perfectly....
Just found out that HD2 I bought (at the same time) for my GF is suffering the sent/huge lag issue though. Maybe I'll try to pin point a fix using her phone. She shld have less than 50 messages, though I did back up and restore some mmses for her previously.
However as I'm about to go on a 19day tour/holiday, so I thought I'll just share my experience and maybe some experts can figure out what's wrong.
Just for your info, I'm using 1.48.707.2 (71294) WWE.
Hi all,
Does someone knows why when adding people to ppl tab the phone slows down and is almost unresponsive? I was adding 3 ppl and it took 5min and after that for another 10-15 min the phone is still slow, like it is busy with doing something... Any explanation and /or solution appreciated.
If you've got a lot of text messages on your phone then this can be the cause.
If this is the case, your best choice is to backup your text messages and then delete them from the phone. (I use MyPhone to do this, as you can archive them online, delete them all online with a couple of clicks, and then they're deleted off your phone @ next synch).
To be honest, I'm very suprised you're suffering from that problem with a ROM from Dutty, so that might not be the answer, but it has been in the majority of cases.
I think you're right about sms's. I have lots of them. Even worse - they were imported so the database might be screwed up. I don't blame the Duttys ROM - its nice and stable
The Problem:
Sometime last week, several--but not all--of my text messages disappeared from both Google Hangouts and my native SMS app. Only recent texts went missing, while past messages from those same people were visible in the Contact History. I noticed for two reasons: 1) my incoming messages after last Monday all were basically new threads and the previous texts with those individuals/groups were gone, and 2) I needed to keep a record of a particular thread with my ex who became abusive in the case that I would need to file a restraining order. He is bright, but borderline which means he's unstable. I am anxious about having lost those texts with him and also insatiably curious, which is why I'm posting here.
Sidenote: Yes, I have heard of SMS Backup & Restore. No, I did not use it before. Yes, I plan to use it in the future.
My Phone Details:
Samsung Galaxy S3 (SGH-T999L)
Android version 4.3
Baseband version T999LUVUBNF4
Sidenote: I know missing texts is a known issue with this phone, so if that is what you think it is after reading this, please tell me. However, it's bothersome to me because all threads before 3/23 disappeared from my SMS app, BUT I can still see *some* (but not all!) texts by looking through my contact history. Also bothersome is that on 3/20, I told my ex (by text) that if he did not stop contacting me, I would file a restraining order. Of course this mysterious loss of data could be completely coincidental, too.
What I've Tried So Far
1. I tried to use Dr.Fone software to find the lost messages. It got stuck at the "Analyzing Device" screen, so no luck there.
2. Yesterday, I rooted my phone after poring over this website for several hours. I used CF Autoroot. Although I was unsuccessful at using adb commands on both my phone (Terminal Emulator) and computer (SDK), I was able to navigate the root directories using ROM Toolbox Pro (Hallelujah! That process was driving me crazy!).
3. I looked at all the "mmssms.db" databases (/databases/com.android.providers.telephony/mmssms.db) - no luck. It only contained the recent messages that are visible in the SMS app.
4. I discovered that I could see older text messages by looking through the Contact History (View Contact > History). Many threads were deleted all the way back to 2014, but 1 thread still had texts from 3/22/15. So, I went on the hunt and discovered "logs.db" (/databases/com.sec.android.provider.logsprovider/logs.db).
5. In logs.db, I could see up to 1000 rows with the names of people, including those people whose threads were deleted. Their names and numbers are all present and accounted for, but when I view the M_Content column, I see a bunch of blank spaces where text content should be, all the way back until April of 2014 (with the exception of the thread with 2 texts on 3/22/15).
Other Strange Happenings
This could be selective memory, but in the last week my phone has been acting very strangely, turning off spontaneously, even when charged, and getting lots of error messages (Sorry, X App must close).
The Chicken Or The Egg
What do you think? Is my phone glitching and therefore I lost the data, or did I lose the data, perhaps by some nefarious means, and therefore my phone is glitching? Does this sound like a typical data loss situation to you?
Final Caveats
Please use layman's terms. I am not an expert by any stretch, so the more jargon used to advise, the more hours I will spend trying to discern what you are trying to tell me.
Thank you in advance for your help.
So here's what is going on:
I had an iPhone, iMessage enabled. Moved to a Note 5 and continued my group text with 2 other iPhone users and one Android user. I don't remember specifically when I got the phone if everyone was responding or not, but I believe they were.
Somewhere along the lines one of the users stopped responding and a day or two later sent a message to us saying he received all of our texts one morning about 3 am in a group. Ever since then messaging has been a problem.
I can send group messages to the 4 of us, 2 of them get it, and this one iPhone user can't. Tested just me, him and the other iphone user - same issue.
He's tried factory resetting the phone, a new SIM card, updating the OS and probably a couple other things.
I've tried removing my devices from iMessage, calling apple to ensure I'm removed, even tried texting from Pinger as a test. It all indicates his phone is causing issues.
However, last night he shut off some sort of wi-fi assist where I think it uses both cell and wi-fi to send data (I think I read this feature was enabled by default on the new IOS9)
That seemed to work but then I noticed I wasn't getting the OTHER iPhone's text messages, but he was getting mine.
Went to another group text without the original iphone user in it but the second iphone user in it, and he and I can text just fine.
So basically, as it stands right now, I want to pull my hair out. I can't tell if this issue is on my end since I switched from an iPhone to an Android, or if its on their end. I had an issue a couple years ago when Is witched off my iphone where I didn't get anyone's iMessages in a group text - that was at the time when Apple's whole deal with contacts and iMessages came out so I fell into that problem.
I have no idea what to look at, how to test this any more and it's really actually infuriating. It's 2015. I should be able to send a text message to two or three people at one time without it causing issues.
Also - is there a way to shut off group messages as an MMS? I think that might be part of the problem but I don't know what I'm looking for.
Thank you.
Basically what happens is I get old texts from previous conversations as if they were new. They will come in randomly but tend to follow the sequence of the conversation, so it basically replays the conversation but slowly over the day. Seems to affect group chats more. It makes following conversations very hard since they are full of old texts that are not relevant but they show up as new. Also annoying to keep getting notifications when I'm actually waiting for a text only to see that it's an old text that I got days ago.
Current phone is Google Pixel 4A with CalyxOS, but I've also tried Graphene OS and had the same issue. I've tried the stock app as well as QKSMS. I did not get the issue with Signal (using as SMS client) but they dropped support for SMS, so this started back again as soon as I switched off Signal. I even tried putting the sim card in my old phone (stock android) and it's still doing it! This part is strange to me because when this problem first surfaced, doing this did fix the problem.
How do I make this stop or begin troubleshooting this? Nobody in my contacts is having this issue so trying to convince them to switch to another messaging system is kind of futile, this is my problem. I am starting to wonder if I should just get an iphone like everyone else because it just works, but I really hate the closed nature of apple ecosystem.
I was thinking of looking into how to do app development and modify an existing open source client so that it ignores texts that have a send date older than 24h, but before I do that, is there already a text client for Android available in the F droid store or as an APK that would have such a feature?
So this is not just group chats like I thought. Starting to get old texts I got from single conversations now. Even pictures get resent. These show up as new texts, though they still have the original send date. This will at least make it easier to filter these out.
Anyone have an ideas how to make this stop? Driving me insane. I really don't want to have to write my own app.
Anyone? This problem is driving me insane. It started happening with a vengeonce again. I am being bombarded by old texts that I already got days ago. It's just playing out the entire conversation over the course of a few days. Have to put the phone in airplane mode to make it stop otherwise the phone is just lit up non stop with old texts coming in.
At very least is there some kind of logging of sorts I can enable that would help me better troubleshoot this?
Inreally dont know but i Remember this happened to me sometime ,maybe Just try a factory reset or change rom , i dont know
I tried several roms, resets etc. While it was happening I even put the sim card in another phone and it started doing it on that phone too. It's also not a carrier issue since I'm the only person having this issue. I've also tried all sorts of text apps. The only one it didn't do it with was Signal but they dropped SMS support, which really sucks.