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Greetings,
I just received the brand new VPAD7 and I know that the HW Specs are different, I'm curious how much work it would take to port one of these G-Tablet ROMs to the VPad? Viewsonic seems to have locked this down so tight I can't even use better keyboard on it... Not Cool.
Anyway I've never developed a ROM but if someone want's to teach/try, I'll be the guinea pig with mine.
Did VS abandon the TapnTap skin?
daCalifa said:
Did VS abandon the TapnTap skin?
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We can only hope they did.
Nothing... The VPAD7 uses a ARM ARM11 600 MHz..... unfortunately your severely limited with that Processor/chipset.... All the work in this forum is for Tegra 2 based processors... the VPAD7 is more like the deformed step sister twice removed...
If you can return it would recommend it - you are just about at the tail end of that machine based on the processor/chipset (not even a 1ghz which is need for many games at least) and get a Galaxy Tab if you need 3G or just wait for the new Galaxy Tab.. Its processor is significantly faster..
If you want a Tegra 2 based 7inch with 3G your going to have to wait.. if dont care about 3G then go with the eLocity A7 (tegra 2 based) BUT its not multitouch so no gaming for you...
There are no good options at this point for 7".... I know.. I have been looking and salivating at this point for a good unit that doesn't sacrifice in the major areas.
daveinmn said:
Greetings,
I just received the brand new VPAD7 and I know that the HW Specs are different, I'm curious how much work it would take to port one of these G-Tablet ROMs to the VPad? Viewsonic seems to have locked this down so tight I can't even use better keyboard on it... Not Cool.
Anyway I've never developed a ROM but if someone want's to teach/try, I'll be the guinea pig with mine.
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You bought a turd (sorry, im just saying what everyone is thinking)
600mhz=meh.
I played with it at CES yesterday. Get the Dell instead.
stanglx said:
If you want a Tegra 2 based 7inch with 3G your going to have to wait.. if dont care about 3G then go with the eLocity A7 (tegra 2 based) BUT its not multitouch so no gaming for you...
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Moved to general
The vpad7 is totally unrelated to the gtablet. It is actually closer to the iPhone 4 than anything else - imagine a 7" iPhone 4 running android and you will get the picture.
It is quite nice to play with - almost unadulterated AOSP 2.2.1, responsive despite the slower processor, similar screen density to the gtablet (with better viewing angles - but not anywhere close to IPS or AMOLED, and limited 800*480 resolution).
Installs and plays AB as a direct download from the Market. (Full Market and Gapps as standard.)
Easy to Root - has been available in Europe since November. (ROMs available at MODACO.)
It IS a phone - full telephone capabilities with gsm and 3G available on AT&T (EDGE on T-Mobile).
All in all, this is a phone with a 7" screen: much more usable than my 4" regular phone, but not an iPad/Gtablet alternative...
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I knew what I was getting when I bought it. I'm using it mostly for work and for that it's fabulous. For 3G I just Hot Spot it to my phone when needed. It actually maintains a better signal than my T-Mobile phone, works great as a HANDS Free phone as well. I was really looking for a way to get it onto the 3G Network, currently it will only do Edge. Angry Birds runs fine as long as its the ONLY thing running. But that and Solitaire are the only games I have on it. Continually moving the SIM Card is a pain.
I wonder if the ro fingerprint could be pulled from it to gain a true full market on the Gtab. Also wondering if the Vending/Market APK would provide a market on the Gtab that would display properly (not cutting off the stars)? Any ideas from someone a bit smarter than me in all this or would it not work because of the 600 mhz vs tegra 2 difference?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/11/viewsonic-viewpad-10-and-10s-hands-on/
I'm just wondering if the one running 2.2 and Tegra2 has a better screen. Aside from that main difference looks to be an HDMI out port.
If anyone has any interest in hands-on experiences with the ViewPad 10 let me know. This is the tablet that dual-boots Windows 7 and Android 1.6.
I bought one for my wife for Christmas and she is really happy with it. Windows runs well and the touch interface works well. The Android half is only 1.6 but runs really fast and does what she needs to.
Craig
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If anyone has any interest in hands-on experiences with the ViewPad 10 let me know. This is the tablet that dual-boots Windows 7 and Android 1.6.
I bought one for my wife for Christmas and she is really happy with it. Windows runs well and the touch interface works well. The Android half is only 1.6 but runs really fast and does what she needs to.
Craig
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Is this CPU dual core?
What is the touchscreen? eGalax?
Has vacant mini-pci-e?
Or all the 2 mini pci-e slots are occupied by SSD and Wifi card?
Can you upgrade the RAM from 1 Gb to 2 Gb card?
Is SD card recognised in Grub and can you boot by SD in the current GRUB setup?
Looks like the 10s is actually a version of the Vega.
Windows tabs (this one included) are Atom cpu powered and the chipset can not handle Android code beyond 1.6.
Though the Tegra 2 is powerful for a passively cooled chipset, it will not power Windows well at all. Need more cpu power and fan cooling.
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Looks like the 10s is actually a version of the Vega.
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Seems like it, just with a different chassis. But why would VS do that?
In essence, if it IS Vega guts then it's no different than a G Tablet except that it has less internal storage + the hdmi port. That would be pretty...what's the word, scammy? Maybe they're trying to 'shed' the G Tablet image.
But you don't give people less bang for their buck albeit in a different/new package and manage to charge more for it unless you're Apple or evil.
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Windows tabs (this one included) are Atom cpu powered and the chipset can not handle Android code beyond 1.6.
Though the Tegra 2 is powerful for a passively cooled chipset, it will not power Windows well at all. Need more cpu power and fan cooling.
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Wha?
I was under the impression the only reason Tegra 2 doesn't power Windows currently is that Windows doesn't have an ARM compatible product currently, and that should change by 2012.
As far as Android on intel architecture - that's up to Google. There's no reason that it shouldn't be able to run well unless Google has optimized code in Android especially for ARM vs. x86/x64 since Linux runs well on everything.
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Seems like it, just with a different chassis. But why would VS do that?
In essence, if it IS Vega guts then it's no different than a G Tablet except that it has less internal storage + the hdmi port. That would be pretty...what's the word, scammy? Maybe they're trying to 'shed' the G Tablet image.
But you don't give people less bang for their buck albeit in a different/new package and manage to charge more for it unless you're Apple or evil.
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The article says it is only available outside the US. So it looks like they want a tablet both inside and ouside the US. Maybe it is easier for them to choose two tablets that are already approved to work in the corresponding locations, compared to getting the gtablet modified to work outside the US or the Vega modified to work inside.
Folks, there is no such thing as a Tegra 2 Windows device. Will not work correctly.
The device has an Intel Atom 400 series chipset and has a fan.
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Folks, there is no such thing as a Tegra 2 Windows device. Will not work correctly.
The device has an Intel Atom 400 series chipset and has a fan.
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Not sure what you are saying. The Viewpad 10 is the one with android 1.6 and windows and has the atom processor and fan. The Viewpad 10s is a rebranded advent vega with a tegra 2, running android 2.2.
A fan has noting to do with anything. My windows 7 netbook is passivly cooled. The tegra 2 is more than enough to handle windows, the oly problem being is an arm arcitecture. But hey! We can run windows 95/98 with bochs!
There is absolutely no way that you will ever run Windows 7 on any ARM processor (ie: the Tegra 2). ARM is a totally different and incompatible architecture from x86, which is what Windows 7 runs on.
You Got It!
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Seems like it, just with a different chassis. But why would VS do that?
In essence, if it IS Vega guts then it's no different than a G Tablet except that it has less internal storage + the hdmi port. That would be pretty...what's the word, scammy? Maybe they're trying to 'shed' the G Tablet image.
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I think you got it right there. I would assume the VEGA is a lot more successful (critically-wise) than the GTablet's been so maybe they are looking to leave the Android tablet making to the experts!
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But you don't give people less bang for their buck albeit in a different/new package
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If we're both right, then the premium you are paying is more than likely a manufacturing fee to VEGA and HOPEFULLY some marketing push from Viewsonic to get this thing popular and get a good following for the device. The reason WE want a following... DEVs to MOD it!
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and manage to charge more for it unless you're Apple or evil.
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OR BOTH! LOL!
Actually Froyo-x86 is possible AND released!
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Windows tabs (this one included) are Atom cpu powered and the chipset can not handle Android code beyond 1.6.
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The ViewPad 10 uses the Android-x86 projects port of 1.6. However, those guys just recently released a version of Froyo-x86... and it includes a specific port for the ViewPad 10!
http://www.android-x86.org/releases/release_2_2
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The article says it is only available outside the US. So it looks like they want a tablet both inside and ouside the US. Maybe it is easier for them to choose two tablets that are already approved to work in the corresponding locations, compared to getting the gtablet modified to work outside the US or the Vega modified to work inside.
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You can get a duo 10s from Amazon now "ViewSonic ViewPad10 10.1-Inch Dual Boot Tablet Supports Windows Home Premium and Android OS with Wi Fi/Bluetooth (Black)" for $599.
Has anyone seen this? At 200bucks it looks awesome! Though, I'm a little skeptical about buying this... the only reason I'd buy it is to hack the snot out of it... Has anyone purchased a chinese knockoff and been able to update the OS on it?
Site is bigboxstore dot c0m - go to the computers/android tablets - it's the first one on the page (sorry can't post links yet)
This thing with ICS would rock especially at the price...
Only bummer is that it ONLY has 512mb or RAM... maybe wait till they start releasing them with 1024? Only a matter of time imo...
Anyways - if anyone has tinkered with one of these dual cores let me know!
It says Android 2.2 - so I'm sure that's not HC...
Any info from the pros on this would be awesome! I'm all about being thrifty when it comes to tablets - prime is definitely on the "gonna buy list" though - just need something to complement it around the house
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As as the title states. I bought a Hannspree tab and wanted everyones opinion of this. From my own research this thing is a good tab just based off the cpu and ips panel.
What are your thoughts?
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hannspree...0-point-touchscreen-with-16GB-memory/28504762
Specs:
Platform: Android
Primary Color: Black
Processor Brand: Specialty
Processor Type: Quad-Core Actions ATM7029 Processor
System Ram: 1 GB
Hard Drive Size: 16 GB
Laptop Screen Size: N/A
Screen Type: Capacitive Touch Display
Battery Life: 5 hours
Battery Type: Lithium Ion
Network Connection: 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN
Connector Type: 1 x Headphone, 1 x MicroUSB 2.0, 1 x MiniHDMI
Operating System: Google Android
Accessories Included: AC Adapter, Micro USB Cable
Operating System Version: Android 4.1 Jelly Bean
Model No.:SN1AT71BUE
Shipping Weight (in pounds): 1.6
Product in Inches (L x W x H): 7.2 x 0.4 x 10.3
1/5/2014 Updated:
Root Instructions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48307550 thank ou2mame
z3r0t0l0rEnCe said:
As as the title states. I bought a Hannspree tab and wanted everyones opinion of this. From my own research this thing is a good tab just based off the cpu and ips panel.
What are your thoughts?
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hannspree-Quad-Core-10.1-Tablet-1280x800-10-point-touchscreen-with-16GB-memory/28504762
Just ordered this exact tablet and am also wondering the same thing. I hope someone has some dev experience with this tablet.
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I ordered this exact tablet last week and it just came in the mail. It's an impressive piece of hardware with very little bloatware out of the box, but Jellybean takes up a lot of RAM by default (1/2 is being used just by the thing being turned on). I'd like to figure out the best method to root it at least, though my ideal goal is to put a ROM of an earlier release of the Android OS on it, I'm quite partial to Gingerbread to be entirely honest since it tends to use a lot less RAM and CPU power to run on similar hardware I've used before.
EDIT: Hopefully someone with actual experience can look into rooting this tablet, I tried using some typical "generic Android tablet root" techniques and nothing is working.
How to root Hannspree Quad Core 10.1" Model SN1AT71BUE
Hi. Could anyone tell me how to root Hannspree Quad Core 10.1" Model SN1AT71BUE ? I just bought it for several days. There is something wrong for restart after I installed some Apps from Google play and play some of them to change the default settings. Better provide me with ROM of this tablet, My email is [email protected]. Thanks! Jeff
I got kinda suckered into buying one of you too. They were so cheap so I figured why not. My main complaints are that the operating system seems to be the part that's making it so laggy. When it's actually performing a task it works fairly well. I use NHL GameCenter and for the life of me I can't figure out how to get the streaming for work. SwiftKey keyboard is really laggy and unusable entirely. Also, Chrome seems to be impossible to use because of the lag. Other than that though everything else seems to run fairly smooth so I think it's more of an operating system issue than power issue. The battery is good it sounds good the screen is OK touch screen works...but if I can't use chrome or watch NHL games,I might have to return it.
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ou2mame said:
I got kinda suckered into buying one of you too. They were so cheap so I figured why not. My main complaints are that the operating system seems to be the part that's making it so laggy. When it's actually performing a task it works fairly well. I use NHL GameCenter and for the life of me I can't figure out how to get the streaming for work. SwiftKey keyboard is really laggy and unusable entirely. Also, Chrome seems to be impossible to use because of the lag. Other than that though everything else seems to run fairly smooth so I think it's more of an operating system issue than power issue. The battery is good it sounds good the screen is OK touch screen works...but if I can't use chrome or watch NHL games,I might have to return it.
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Tablet seems to perform fairly well in games but is laggy at times on web surfing. As the previous poster noted Chrome is almost unusable it is so laggy. Video apps seem to perform well after they load up. If an item is being downloaded in the background tablet is very laggy. I tend to agree with the previous poster that the main problem is the operating system. Maybe an update to 4.3 will come soon and improve performance.
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Tablet seems to perform fairly well in games but is laggy at times on web surfing. As the previous poster noted Chrome is almost unusable it is so laggy. Video apps seem to perform well after they load up. If an item is being downloaded in the background tablet is very laggy. I tend to agree with the previous poster that the main problem is the operating system. Maybe an update to 4.3 will come soon and improve performance.
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Yeah I noticed the background downloading slowing it to a crawl. I think that's an issue with the kernel or memory read speed. There are some tweaks that we will be able to do once a working recovery is available that will fix that. Network speed too. I speed checked it and im getting 35mbs so the issue isn't the WiFi unit itself, its just software. I'm hoping somebody will make a nice custom ROM for us
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Jeffking0402 said:
Hi. Could anyone tell me how to root Hannspree Quad Core 10.1" Model SN1AT71BUE ? I just bought it for several days. There is something wrong for restart after I installed some Apps from Google play and play some of them to change the default settings. Better provide me with ROM of this tablet, My email is [email protected]. Thanks! Jeff
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If you want to restore it to factory settings you can do that in the current recovery.
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Can't root
I bought one of these and I still can find a successful rooting procedure. I can't even get into the recovery. Can anyone help?
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I bought one of these and I still can find a successful rooting procedure. I can't even get into the recovery. Can anyone help?
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Root instructions are here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554384
As for recovery, volume down and power button
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hannspree 10.1
Hi, I have the hannspree 10.1, its OK if you limit your apps which shouldn't be the case considering the spec, does anyone know how to root, would really appreciate any help, thanks
You should read the rest of the thread
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hansspree 10.1
nothing out yet...it's just the os on it that sucks...just upgraded to 4.2.2 and it even slower...once theres a rom it will eliminate all the bloat in it...just hold on to it and wait...you will not get a quad core for that price...
Its a really terrible a5 based quad-core.. A dual core a9 would run circles around it. There isn't really any bloat in the rom, they didn't do much of anything to it. No custom rom is gonna upgrade the cpu or craptastic generic gpu. If you can return it, go do that. If you can't, I'm sorry, but it's never going to respond like an a9. It sucks that actions is full of lies, and Hannspree bought them, and retailers don't care what they are selling you.
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After the update to 4.2.2, this thing is horrid slow. I had high hopes for this tablet. Now I'm kind regretting it. Until a better ROM is built with a custom kernel we are screwed.
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I agree 100%, 4.2. Update is worse than original. Try downloading CPU tuner and pimp my ROM from play store it will help, until custom ROM is built.
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Appears to have had memory issues. In process of RMA.
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So I just found out that the UK variant is running KitKat. If some can find anyone in the UK that can pull the rom for it, we can get this running much better than it currently is.
Can anyone point me into a direction where I could find the operation system and how to install
Hey guys, ive just received brand new Asus memo pad as a Christmas present! The thing is I had my Samsung galaxy s3 for quite some time and I really enjoyed it but since both of these systems are operating on android, I cannot seem but feel like I got something that I already have... I know the screen is bigger and it has a lilac more RAM and not to mention Quad core processor! Even my 3 year old laptop has dual core and I have no idea where the heck in the tablet you can use such a processor...
So my question is... is there any awesome stuff that I could use my tablet for, which I cannot use my phone with? And perhaps would it be possible to use some kind of software to boost my laptop's processor when connected to tablet??
imenex1 said:
Hey guys, ive just received brand new Asus memo pad as a Christmas present! The thing is I had my Samsung galaxy s3 for quite some time and I really enjoyed it but since both of these systems are operating on android, I cannot seem but feel like I got something that I already have... I know the screen is bigger and it has a lilac more RAM and not to mention Quad core processor! Even my 3 year old laptop has dual core and I have no idea where the heck in the tablet you can use such a processor...
So my question is... is there any awesome stuff that I could use my tablet for, which I cannot use my phone with?
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Well basically you can enjoy playing games and watch videos even more on a tablet than on a phone.. And those apps that are optimized for Tablets only will take up your entire screen and make use of that by using it to display more texts and information.. And also there are some apps that are for Tablets only - so you can use them too.. And I think that's pretty much it..
imenex1 said:
And perhaps would it be possible to use some kind of software to boost my laptop's processor when connected to tablet??
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I don't really think that's possible...
Sami Kabir said:
Well basically you can enjoy playing games and watch videos even more on a tablet than on a phone.. And those apps that are optimized for Tablets only will take up your entire screen and make use of that by using it to display more texts and information.. And also there are some apps that are for Tablets only - so you can use them too.. And I think that's pretty much it
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Thanks for the reply, since you've mentioned that there are some appsnthat can only run on tablets, I was wondering could you actually name a few?
list of good tablet specific apps
as far as i get your query it is in relation to the abilities of a tablet as compared to a phone
a phone can do anything your tablet can do...but a tablet cant do the same
but.....
1. it has got a bigger screen size so better multimedia experience
2. in my experience a phone screen no matter how big (read less than 6 inches) always feels a bit cramped even when compared to a tablet with a 7 inch screen
3. you've got some great apps out there that look and feel better on tablets than phones
eg. office suite, netflix, kingsoft office, trulia
you wanted to know something you can do with a quad core processor
try these on a quad core and a dual core. you'll get to know the difference pretty fast-
mass effect, modern combat, real football, the dark knight, browsing the internet, watching shows and movies online etc etc
there's a lot to do on tablets
carry one to conferences. believe me it is better to use a tab in a conference than a phone
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TARUN SIDHARTH said:
you wanted to know something you can do with a quad core processor
try these on a quad core and a dual core. you'll get to know the difference pretty fast-
mass effect, modern combat, real football, the dark knight, browsing the internet, watching shows and movies online etc etc
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All these things you've mentioned are PC GAMES... I don't have a quad core PC even tho I wish, what I want to know is what the heck can I do with quad core ON THE TABLET!
imenex1 said:
All these things you've mentioned are PC GAMES... I don't have a quad core PC even tho I wish, what I want to know is what the heck can I do with quad core ON THE TABLET!
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Dude, I don't mean to sound rude or anything but go search Google play for these apps... They are available on Android phones and tablets but I find the experience much better on tablets than phones.. That's what I've been trying to tell you
Not just these you'll find many more apps and great games on Google play just like these with great gaming experience and awesome graphics!!!
I tried...
TARUN SIDHARTH said:
Dude, I don't mean to sound rude or anything but go search Google play for these apps... They are available on Android phones and tablets but I find the experience much better on tablets than phones.. That's what I've been trying to tell you
Not just these you'll find many more apps and great games on Google play just like these with great gaming experience and awesome graphics!!!
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I have tried but all of these apps are not found on the google play store...
hmmmm...strange
it may be an issue of compatibility. go to www.play.google.com log in there and find these kinda apps. go to the install option, if these apps are compatible with your device you'll be able to send a link to the device. if not, then you can always find an apk here and there and then install them
but remember to pay for them, RESPECT DEVELOPERS ALWAYS
by the way, here and there refers to other app store for eg the amazon app store
good luck with the app hunting
Tarun
if you can boost your laptop's performance with your tablet, then you should join Microsoft or intel, that should be some parallel computing technology enjoy you tablet with some fantastic games, i guess