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Will I get better battery life after using CFautroot?
And what is the success rate for first time users? (chances of screwing up my phone)...
thanks!
saabage said:
Will I get better battery life after using CFautroot?
And what is the success rate for first time users? (chances of screwing up my phone)...
thanks!
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Only the things you do after rooting can have a good/bad effect on battery life.
Rooting will do absolutely nothing except maybe a placebo.
Success rate only depends on circumstances such as accidentally removing usb cable during operation.
Otherwise if your phone model is supported then it should work 100% of the time.
Lgrootnoob is right, the success rate only depends if there is a problem with your device such as not connecting to the computer right pulling the cable, your antivirus might jump at the programs you get from here, as for your battery, it depends on what you do, if you want to overclock your phone (make it faster) it will decrease battery life depending how much you use increase it. i would get the App Performance controller when you root your device but only if your willing to do a little research into governors and i/o schedulers you can find which ones you want and get tons better battery performance.
why isnt the company doing something about the overheating issue? is there any solution for this? Just bought my one plus one and this overheating issue is such a let down.
From what I can see the reason the charger "overheats" is because of the speed in which it charges the phone. A way to fix this is to root the phone and install an app that can slow down the amount of power the phone takes in during charging. Ofcourse this means longer charging times but it will help with the heat issue.
With regards to the phone, unlock the developer options and underclock the phone. Obvious advantage of longer battery life and less heat but with the trade off of performance. I would reccomend only underclocking it a little but as you will get lag because of the restricting of power to the CPU. Changing the cpu governer etc. to save battery will help with heat as they just slow down the ram and CPU.
My appologies if you have done all of these and are still experiencing these issue, i do know where you are coming from but they are trivial issues and depend on how you as the user do use the phone. Have a browse around forums etc. to find tips on slowing things down a little and things will cool down for your phone.
I hope i have helped even a little bit
How do you define overheating on the phone? What temperature?
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No overheating here. What do you mean? The phone gets hot and turns off?
overheating
baratv said:
why isnt the company doing something about the overheating issue? is there any solution for this? Just bought my one plus one and this overheating issue is such a let down.
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This phone is not known for overheating any more than any other phone that will heat up when driven to its max for example in heavy 3D gaming. There is a difference between heating up and overheating
First, run stock without any extra installed apps, and NO running apps or network connections or anything and see if it's overheating.
Do not use an aftermarket charger--they could be rated for different amps and overheat or damage themselves or the battery.
Phone brand new?--simple--ask OnePlus to replace it.
Phone used?--probably been abused--get your money back and get another one.
pbergonzi said:
There is a difference between heating up and overheating
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This. Far too many people mistake a device heating up for a device overheating. All phones heat up, they have no active cooling. If the phone was actually overheating the thermal cutoff would kick in and the phone would shut down.
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No overheating issue here, you may want to try different - weaker charger like stock Samsung or Sony one with output current ~700mA-1A and see how it performs.
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OK, I have an att galaxy s7 g930a rooted phone. If imy out and about and not by an outlet, my battery is dead by around 6 pm. I'm not really a power user.
Immediately looking at better battery stats which it says since boot, system used 24%, and next is wake lock 6%, then kk launcher at 4%.
For battery optimization, I keep the phone in power saver mode. I also have juice defender ultimate and I run it in balanced mode. I have the setting unselected so the phone does not sync constantly for new emails etc.
I have power toggles and turn off GPS, mobile data, and WiFi when I'm not using it knowing all these transmitters drain the battery. And yet I can't get over 12 hours on a charge.
Try checking the cable n charger see if they are stock charger ..sometimes quick charge doesnt charge the battery properly ...u might need to replace battery if they r good
The battery on an s7 is built in.... not replacable.
It is replaceable u need to a good technician to open up the back using blow dryer type device n then swap the battery its pretty easy
I haven't had the phone a year yet. I really don't believe the battery itself is bad. Almost every situation like this I've seen has been an app draiming the battery... nothing physically wrong with the device.
What screen on time are you getting? What mobile network setting are you using/network are you on? 3G or 4G, if you're on a 3G network make sure it's set to 2G/3G in settings. Try installing gsam battery stats to see if you can identify anything unusual or something that's causing a drain.
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dorlow said:
I haven't had the phone a year yet. I really don't believe the battery itself is bad. Almost every situation like this I've seen has been an app draiming the battery... nothing physically wrong with the device.
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I tend to agree with you. I've recently gone through seven S7's... I've exchanged the previous ones and am currently on my eighth device. Among these phones, it was only the international unlocked variant (SM-G930F) and the US unlocked variant (SM-G930U) that showed rather impressive battery life. I was often able to get 1.5 to 2 days of run time on a single charge from each of those models. The 930F was even better battery-wise than the 930U's, which weren't bad at all. Conversely, the batteries in the carrier variants that I've tried have seemed to deplete far too rapidly - similar to the situation you've described with your phone. My current S7 is an SM-G930P (Sprint variant) and its battery seems to last half as long (or less) than the unlocked S7 variants I've used.
The most generally disturbing thing for me about the GS7 is that there has been one or more significantly undesirable issues that seem exclusive to and inherently present among each of the model variant categories. At least this has appeared the case based upon the S7's that I've personally tested. For me, it seems there is no variant model of this device that's without seriously objectionable issues. However, finding some way to make the carrier-variant batteries last significantly longer would go a long way toward making other said issues more tolerable.
You could try greenify if you got xposed installed. There is another module too, but the name escapes me right now.
dorlow said:
OK, I have an att galaxy s7 g930a rooted phone.
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From what i've read the root method using eng boot for snapdragon phones makes the cpu run at the highest frequency, so yes the battery life will suffer.
peachpuff said:
From what i've read the root method using eng boot for snapdragon phones makes the cpu run at the highest frequency, so yes the battery life will suffer.
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Hmm, so the rooting method for the SD820 equipped S7's effectively overclocks the CPU? Perhaps it changes the multiplier?
The 4 cores on my unrooted SD820 equipped S7's have always idled at 307 MHz, and then spiked up as needed. Do the rooted SD820 equipped S7's idle at a higher clock speed? Or do they simply have a higher maximum clock speed - i.e., beyond 2.15 GHz? Either way, I can see how that would suck the battery down noticeably quicker.
clonk said:
Hmm, so the rooting method for the SD820 equipped S7's effectively overclocks the CPU? Perhaps it changes the multiplier?
The 4 cores on my unrooted SD820 equipped S7's have always idled at 307 MHz, and then spiked up as needed. Do the rooted SD820 equipped S7's idle at a higher clock speed? Or do they simply have a higher maximum clock speed - i.e., beyond 2.15 GHz? Either way, I can see how that would suck the battery down noticeably quicker.
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It has to do with the governor, its apparently set to performance rather than interactive. Check what yours is set to, cpuid app can show you that.
peachpuff said:
It has to do with the governor, its apparently set to performance rather than interactive. Check what yours is set to, cpuid app can show you that.
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Ah, that would be the CPU auto-scaling mechanism, if I'm not mistaken. I think mine's obviously set to interactive since the cores idle at 307 MHz. I'm guessing that if scaling were set to performance mode the cores would be running at full speed instead. And yes, that would drain the battery far quicker! And I sure DON'T need this 930P to drain its battery more rapidly than it already does. I'm currently playing with the debloater app to see if I can make some improvements tha way.
i would be glad if someone provides this so i can play more on my phone p9 is pretty sensitive
rhaegon36 said:
i would be glad if someone provides this so i can play more on my phone p9 is pretty sensitive
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check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/help/huawei-p9-overheat-protection-feature-t3441315/
As i already stated over there, if you disable termal throttling you will not get better performance, well, actually you will, for a whole lot of 15 minutes, then you get a dead phone.
Termal throttling is there for a reason, if the components get too hot they will get damaged. If you want to disable termal throttling, you need to improve heat dissipation first, and, as far as i know, there is now way to do so.
noki57oo said:
check this out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/p9/help/huawei-p9-overheat-protection-feature-t3441315/
As i already stated over there, if you disable termal throttling you will not get better performance, well, actually you will, for a whole lot of 15 minutes, then you get a dead phone.
Termal throttling is there for a reason, if the components get too hot they will get damaged. If you want to disable termal throttling, you need to improve heat dissipation first, and, as far as i know, there is now way to do so.
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well trinity kernel tool exist but its way too old, no new update, trinity kernel tool where u can optimize voltage disable thermal throttling etc., my phone slows down at 39-40 sometimes even at 36 when i know my phone can handle maybe like 45-50 without damage.. ive seen old posts on LG phones where there is a kernal.zip with thermal throttling disabled and you can install it. i know it can be disabled but havent found any links for p9. i was just posting here to by chance get some from the devs here. i can control my phones temp i can cool it off on my AC while playing, i just want it to maybe if not disable it then set its throttling lvl to like 50degrees because i think the p9 throttling is set to a very low trigger point where it could be higher and still be OK
rhaegon36 said:
well trinity kernel tool exist but its way too old, no new update, trinity kernel tool where u can optimize voltage disable thermal throttling etc., my phone slows down at 39-40 sometimes even at 36 when i know my phone can handle maybe like 45-50 without damage.. ive seen old posts on LG phones where there is a kernal.zip with thermal throttling disabled and you can install it. i know it can be disabled but havent found any links for p9. i was just posting here to by chance get some from the devs here. i can control my phones temp i can cool it off on my AC while playing, i just want it to maybe if not disable it then set its throttling lvl to like 50degrees because i think the p9 throttling is set to a very low trigger point where it could be higher and still be OK
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"i know my phone can handle maybe like 45-50 without damage"
"i think the p9 throttling is set to a very low trigger"
You know? You think? I'm sorry man, your knowing and thinking, unless based on official documents of Hisilicon, is just that, guessing, and it's not worth anything.
Just because some LG smartphone could do it, it doesn't mean it can be done. Also, you need to take into account the manufacturing process, the same chip could handle different temps if not built by the same company, or even if built by the same company, all the chips are different even if they are pratically the same. Guess what happens if you take different chips, or even different smartphones...
Termal throttling is not there to bother you, it's there for safety reasons, if the temperature is any higher than what the manufacturer had intended you could cause a lot of permanent damage.
Also keep in mind that if you disable termal throttling you will keep increasing the temperature, as the heat produced is the same at any given time under costant load and the passive dissipation system can only get rid of a small amount of what you produce (that's why it needs termal throttling at all), which means that if not stopped at 50C, your phone would just reach 70, or 80, or even 100C in a small time frame, and just keep rising until it eventually dies. Also, the throttling could even be power based, perhaps the battery is too hot, so if you keep going it could even "blow" up.
If you take into account undervolting and underclocking perhaps you can achieve the same result, but termal throttling has to stay.
I hope that explains it, so rather than asking for a kernel without termal throttling, ask for one with undervolting, it makes much more sense.
noki57oo said:
"i know my phone can handle maybe like 45-50 without damage"
"i think the p9 throttling is set to a very low trigger"
You know? You think? I'm sorry man, your knowing and thinking, unless based on official documents of Hisilicon, is just that, guessing, and it's not worth anything.
Just because some LG smartphone could do it, it doesn't mean it can be done. Also, you need to take into account the manufacturing process, the same chip could handle different temps if not built by the same company, or even if built by the same company, all the chips are different even if they are pratically the same. Guess what happens if you take different chips, or even different smartphones...
Termal throttling is not there to bother you, it's there for safety reasons, if the temperature is any higher than what the manufacturer had intended you could cause a lot of permanent damage.
Also keep in mind that if you disable termal throttling you will keep increasing the temperature, as the heat produced is the same at any given time under costant load and the passive dissipation system can only get rid of a small amount of what you produce (that's why it needs termal throttling at all), which means that if not stopped at 50C, your phone would just reach 70, or 80, or even 100C in a small time frame, and just keep rising until it eventually dies. Also, the throttling could even be power based, perhaps the battery is too hot, so if you keep going it could even "blow" up.
If you take into account undervolting and underclocking perhaps you can achieve the same result, but termal throttling has to stay.
I hope that explains it, so rather than asking for a kernel without termal throttling, ask for one with undervolting, it makes much more sense.
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alright man thanks, just kinda pissed i cant play too long on my phone
noki57oo said:
"i know my phone can handle maybe like 45-50 without damage"
"i think the p9 throttling is set to a very low trigger"
You know? You think? I'm sorry man, your knowing and thinking, unless based on official documents of Hisilicon, is just that, guessing, and it's not worth anything.
Just because some LG smartphone could do it, it doesn't mean it can be done. Also, you need to take into account the manufacturing process, the same chip could handle different temps if not built by the same company, or even if built by the same company, all the chips are different even if they are pratically the same. Guess what happens if you take different chips, or even different smartphones...
Termal throttling is not there to bother you, it's there for safety reasons, if the temperature is any higher than what the manufacturer had intended you could cause a lot of permanent damage.
Also keep in mind that if you disable termal throttling you will keep increasing the temperature, as the heat produced is the same at any given time under costant load and the passive dissipation system can only get rid of a small amount of what you produce (that's why it needs termal throttling at all), which means that if not stopped at 50C, your phone would just reach 70, or 80, or even 100C in a small time frame, and just keep rising until it eventually dies. Also, the throttling could even be power based, perhaps the battery is too hot, so if you keep going it could even "blow" up.
If you take into account undervolting and underclocking perhaps you can achieve the same result, but termal throttling has to stay.
I hope that explains it, so rather than asking for a kernel without termal throttling, ask for one with undervolting, it makes much more sense.
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no, you're wrong. cpu will safe at 100°C, cpu far away not enough warm the battery and kaboom. and voltage is set too high so phone become too hot in a short time it scaling to max frequency, max voltage in voltage table is used. temperature is closely related to voltage, not about cpu frequency. many manufacturers always set the voltage to too high, this is what causes overheating, I have undervolted and overclocked: I get 3 things: phone always cold cool!, huge battery life and speed of light as I want, I'm very please about it when I can control my phone, also my pc
After some inconsistent battery drain, I finally got around to doing some real world testing and found something interesting.
I did the test three ways. The first was to disconnect the AeroActive Cooler completely. The second was to connect the AeroActive Cooler with the fan turned off. The final test was to connect the AeroActive Cooler with the fan on (which runs when the screen is on). The shocking realization was that simply having it connected was draining nearly as much battery as leaving it enabled. Disconnecting the AeroActive Cooler almost quadrupled battery life.
Unfortunately, there is no way to enable the paddles without the fan running, which could at least justify some additional drain. Disabling the fan also disables the paddles, leaving the AeroActive Cooler completely disabled.
Since doing this test, I now disconnect the fan when the phone is not going to be used for gaming. The difference in battery life is impossible to miss. It is unfortunate there is no way to leave the fan connected that isn't practically powering it at max without a single rotation.
Note: These findings are for the AeroActive Cooler 5 and may not apply to previous or future models of the same hardware.
Interesting... Is that during gaming? Wasn't it the case that having the fan attached allows the phone to throttle later, leading to more power consumption? Don't have the fan myself, just thought it might be possible...
I can confirm this issue occurring on my Rog Phone 5 too. This explains why leaving it connected even while the phone is on sleep drains ~50% within 24 hours. Until recently, I typically leave the cooler connected because I'm concerned about frequently reconnecting and causing wear and tear.
cotov said:
Interesting... Is that during gaming? Wasn't it the case that having the fan attached allows the phone to throttle later, leading to more power consumption? Don't have the fan myself, just thought it might be possible...
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I did the testing by checking the battery before and after letting it sit overnight. With the fan set to off, it shouldn't be adjusting any internal profiles. Even so, that would only mean that the fan should be enabled to prevent overheating. It shouldn't have any impact on idle because the fan is designed to not run with the screen off.
Edit: A little extra drain when idle is to be expected when the fan is enabled to support kicking on instantly. The problem is that in both idle and off states, the drain is almost as significant as having the fan rotating.
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I did the testing by checking the battery before and after letting it sit overnight. With the fan set to off, it shouldn't be adjusting any internal profiles. Even so, that would only mean that the fan should be enabled to prevent overheating. It shouldn't have any impact on idle because the fan is designed to not run with the screen off.
Edit: A little extra drain when idle is to be expected when the fan is enabled to support kicking on instantly. The problem is that in both idle and off states, the drain is almost as significant as having the fan rotating.
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in disobedience, check the current discharge jsk? i in aida64, try to measure this again but what values do you have in the aida64 battery discharge section it is in mA units
skorpicz said:
in disobedience, check the current discharge jsk? i in aida64, try to measure this again but what values do you have in the aida64 battery discharge section it is in mA units
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Ill have to try that later. I'm also curious what happens if I disable Armory Crate when it's connected.
I doubt there is a realistic fix as a user, but it would be nice to give Asus enough details to improve it (and pretend they'll listen).
twistedumbrella said:
Ill have to try that later. I'm also curious what happens if I disable Armory Crate when it's connected.
I doubt there is a realistic fix as a user, but it would be nice to give Asus enough details to improve it (and pretend they'll listen).
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one more question, can you eliminate the need to connect an Asus fan for mode x? or can I force mode x without connecting an Asus fan?
skorpicz said:
one more question, can you eliminate the need to connect an Asus fan for mode x? or can I force mode x without connecting an Asus fan?
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I would guess you mod Armory Crate or Game Genie (or both) to remove the restriction.
twistedumbrella said:
I would guess you mod Armory Crate or Game Genie (or both) to remove the restriction.
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so unlock bootloader and root?
My aeroactive cooler always connected to my rog 5 and I got 10-12 hours SOT (game & social media)
fan speed = high
full gaming = 5++ hours
ultra durable & low brightness DC dimming stay on all the time
Devaanp said:
My aeroactive cooler always connected to my rog 5 and I got 10-12 hours SOT (game & social media)
fan speed = high
full gaming = 5++ hours
ultra durable & low brightness DC dimming stay on all the time
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Screen on time doesn't really apply to this, though. It's trying to find out if having the fan connected and NOT in use is wasting battery.
it would not be better to find a way to get around the need to have an Asus fan for mode x, other coolers are more efficient
skorpicz said:
it would not be better to find a way to get around the need to have an Asus fan for mode x, other coolers are more efficient
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Other coolers also require the USB-C port, cannot be configured using the stock software, and aren't made to work with the proprietary design and cases.
twistedumbrella said:
Other coolers also require the USB-C port, cannot be configured using the stock software, and aren't made to work with the proprietary design and cases.
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so otherwise, can the game run without Asus fan x mode?
Aida64 confirms it. With the fan disconnected, Discharge Rate sits around 80 mA. Connecting the fan has no immediate impact, but once the toast appears that it connects, Discharge Rate jumps to around 125 mA with the fan off.
skorpicz said:
so otherwise, can the game run without Asus fan x mode?
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Games run without it.
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Aida64 confirms it. With the fan disconnected, Discharge Rate sits around 80 mA. Connecting the fan has no immediate impact, but once the toast appears that it connects, Discharge Rate jumps to around 125 mA with the fan off.
Games run without it.
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sorry my bad english .... i mean force x mode without asus fan
skorpicz said:
sorry my bad english .... i mean force x mode without asus fan
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I would guess you mod Armory Crate or Game Genie (or both) to remove the restriction.
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Hádal bych, že mod Armory Crate nebo Game Genie (nebo obojí) odstraníte omezení.
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?what
twistedumbrella said:
Hádal bych, že mod Armory Crate nebo Game Genie (nebo obojí) odstraníte omezení.
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Link?
skorpicz said:
Link?
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I don't think it's been done yet