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So I just got back from the tmobile store, after sending in my g1 I bricked attempting to install the danger spl, claiming I had no idea what happened. Then I received a call from the person at the store that was helping me informing me that HTC would do a 'check' to see if it had been rooted, and fine me $400 if they discovered any unofficial roms on it. I told this man nothing.
Is this bs, or what?!
Either security has been upped in the recent past, and I'm going to have to pay $400, or he just tells that to everyone to scare them, I have no clue.
Any additional information would be appreciated very much.
TC,
No worries mate. It's BS, he's just looking to spook you, or he/she is a complete idiot of a rep. They can't fine you for it. You own the phone, not them (unless you're on some sort of a lease agreement contract I'm not aware of).
The most they'd do is just return the phone to you or something.
Cheers.
infernofalcon said:
So I just got back from the tmobile store, after sending in my g1 I bricked attempting to install the danger spl, claiming I had no idea what happened. Then I received a call from the person at the store that was helping me informing me that HTC would do a 'check' to see if it had been rooted, and fine me $400 if they discovered any unofficial roms on it. I told this man nothing.
Is this bs, or what?!
Either security has been upped in the recent past, and I'm going to have to pay $400, or he just tells that to everyone to scare them, I have no clue.
Any additional information would be appreciated very much.
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how can you brick a phone ( im noob so..)
leco said:
how can you brick a phone ( im noob so..)
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By not following directions, mostly.
Mine was taken by haykuro's death bringer.
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This person called me back, and claims that HTC can and will check every phone sent in for unofficial roms. I'm not sure what gave me away, but he said if I rooted my phone, then do NOT send it in, because they will not replace it, and I will need to pay $400 for a new g1. He says he knows this from experience.
I'm rather frightened now, but would much rather trust you guys. So, encouragement pl0x?
infernofalcon said:
By not following directions, mostly.
Mine was taken by haykuro's death bringer.
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This person called me back, and claims that HTC can and will check every phone sent in for unofficial roms. I'm not sure what gave me away, but he said if I rooted my phone, then do NOT send it in, because they will not replace it, and I will need to pay $400 for a new g1. He says he knows this from experience.
I'm rather frightened now, but would much rather trust you guys. So, encouragement pl0x?
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TC,
This changes things. You see, when you said a 400 USD fine...that's BS....but...you should have the option to keep your bricked G1 (assuming they can't fix it). They can't keep it and not return it you. After that point, it's really your choice if you want to buy a new one or not.
Cheers.
PoisonWolf said:
TC,
This changes things. You see, when you said a 400 USD fine...that's BS....but...you should have the option to keep your bricked G1 (assuming they can't fix it). They can't keep it and not return it you. After that point, it's really your choice if you want to buy a new one or not.
Cheers.
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Yes, but is there anyway they can tell it was rooted? Because if they can't, wouldn't they just replace it for free?
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Yes, but is there anyway they can tell it was rooted? Because if they can't, wouldn't they just replace it for free?
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TC,
I'm sorry, I do not have the information to these things and I wouldn't know. I can wish you all the best at this point, and hope that you screwed up the phone's memory to a point where nothing is readable by whatever gadgets/software they have.
Whatever it is, they can NOT fine you, that's the point I want you to take away from all this. Lawl.
Cheers.
PoisonWolf said:
TC,
I'm sorry, I do not have the information to these things and I wouldn't know. I can wish you all the best at this point, and hope that you screwed up the phone's memory to a point where nothing is readable by whatever gadgets/software they have.
Whatever it is, they can NOT fine you, that's the point I want you to take away from all this. Lawl.
Cheers.
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Thank you so very much, I greatly appreciate your kindness and time, and hope you have a wonderful day.
OMGAHAHAHAHAH
Sorry,
I just find it so sad a rep tried to threaten you a fine for using your [OWN] device with a fine for doing what YOU want on your OWN device. Has the world come to this insanity?
Laos101 said:
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Sorry,
I just find it so sad a rep tried to threaten you a fine for using your [OWN] device with a fine for doing what YOU want on your OWN device. Has the world come to this insanity?
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Well at least we've got you guys =P
Do you have 'Accident' insurance?
Yes, they can tell if you rooted it, or flashed it with an unofficial ROM. By doing that, you invalidated your warranty so if they really DO check it, they are pretty unlikely to repair it for free, hence the $400.
FloatingFatMan said:
Yes, they can tell if you rooted it, or flashed it with an unofficial ROM. By doing that, you invalidated your warranty so if they really DO check it, they are pretty unlikely to repair it for free, hence the $400.
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Even if it's bricked?
infernofalcon said:
Even if it's bricked?
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TC,
I wouldn't be surprised. You know how a damaged hard drive can be rendered inaccessible to the average joe? And how there are data-recovery companies that can somehow still get data back for you?
I'm pretty sure they can tell. If that's the case, like I've said before, it's really your call if you want to purchase a new phone or buy a second hand rooted one in the marketplace.
Cheers.
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Even if it's bricked?
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It's only bricked to you, not to them. It's more likely they'd just reflash the ROM and not bother to check, but what with Google's recent actions on trying to stop custom Android ROMs containing their closed source software, they MIGHT be pressuring HTC to check for custom ROMs as well...
It's your choice whether you want to take the chance or not. The worst that can happen is that they won't honour the warranty and either send the device back to you, or require you to pay for the repair.
Good luck for you and take easy.
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Ho ,really sorry sorry links,links!
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It's only bricked to you, not to them. It's more likely they'd just reflash the ROM and not bother to check, but what with Google's recent actions on trying to stop custom Android ROMs containing their closed source software, they MIGHT be pressuring HTC to check for custom ROMs as well...
It's your choice whether you want to take the chance or not. The worst that can happen is that they won't honour the warranty and either send the device back to you, or require you to pay for the repair.
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aHA!
Someone from here needs to get a job at htc, and pray the unbricking technique is revealed to them
LMFAO! That guy needs to get his ass kicked! You can turn your device in a custom ROM server and the only thing they can do is return it to you without repairing it. Nothing more. Ha! What ...... .... that rep must be. ........ ... ...... ..... haha!
If they catch you with a custom ROM, you would have to pay for the repair yourself, but that is normal. I never, NEVER, go to official repair shops. I just go to any repair centre and pay the price for the repair. Saves me a lot of nerves lol.
infernofalcon said:
aHA!
Someone from here needs to get a job at htc, and pray the unbricking technique is revealed to them
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It's not difficult, but you can't do it from home because it requires dedicated hardware to connect directly to the phone's main board.
How do you think they flash these things in the first place, hmm? They sure as hell don't run the same type of flashing process that we do!
Hello xda community i'm planning to buy an s7 but since it cost a lot i've an important question for you...if my device is stolen the chance that i will get the phone back is high or low? I mean...would the police help me to track my phone or they will only call my carrier to blacklist the IMEI
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Hello xda community i'm planning to buy an s7 but since it cost a lot i've an important question for you...if my device is stolen the chance that i will get the phone back is high or low? I mean...would the police help me to track my phone or they will only call my carrier to blacklist the IMEI
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If you live in Brazil, I can give you an answer. But I'm sure this is a very relative question.
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XnameX said:
Hello xda community i'm planning to buy an s7 but since it cost a lot i've an important question for you...if my device is stolen the chance that i will get the phone back is high or low? I mean...would the police help me to track my phone or they will only call my carrier to blacklist the IMEI
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That's a very hard question to answer, as we have no idea how your local police will handle it. If its locked with fingerprint, pattern etc, the thief won't be able to turn it off so that means that it will stay on for a couple hours and you will be able to track it. Then I guess you can call the police, but I would advice you to not go without the police as you might get in more trouble.
If you cant locate it, your carrier will blacklist it.
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That's a very hard question to answer, as we have no idea how your local police will handle it. If its locked with fingerprint, pattern etc, the thief won't be able to turn it off so that means that it will stay on for a couple hours and you will be able to track it. Then I guess you can call the police, but I would advice you to not go without the police as you might get in more trouble.
If you cant locate it, your carrier will blacklist it.
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Does the s7 have a turn off protection when the screen is locked?
Thanks for the tip
goTouch said:
If you live in Brazil, I can give you an answer. But I'm sure this is a very relative question.
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Nope i live in Italy,thanks anyway
XnameX said:
Does the s7 have a turn off protection when the screen is locked?
Thanks for the tip
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Hmmm I was wrong, unfortunately you can turn it off even when the screen is locked. My bad.
I don't know if you can locate your phone when its turned off.
Travis Bickle said:
Hmmm I was wrong, unfortunately you can turn it off even when the screen is locked. My bad.
I don't know if you can locate your phone when its turned off.
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No,you can't the only way to locate it is with samsung and/or google account but unfortunately with factory reset it will be wiped off, i know that there is Frp (Factory Reset Protection) to prevent the account from being deleted but there are bypass that make it useless because even if they get patched an expert thief could downgrade the firmware with odin and a firmware from sammobile...so the only ways to are:
1)the thief is not an expert
2)the police or carrier track the phone using imei number...
Since the first possibility not always happen,what i was asking for is if the police or carrier will spend time on tracking my phone or not
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No,you can't the only way to locate it is with samsung and/or google account but unfortunately with factory reset it will be wiped off, i know that there is Frp (Factory Reset Protection) to prevent the account from being deleted but there are bypass that make it useless because even if they get patched an expert thief could downgrade the firmware with odin and a firmware from sammobile...so the only ways to are:
1)the thief is not an expert
2)the police or carrier track the phone using imei number...
Since the first possibility not always happen,what i was asking for is if the police or carrier will spend time on tracking my phone or not
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Wouldn't it be better to ask the police and your carrier, rather than a forum who can't speak for either party?
Seems a strange thing to be thinking about before even buying it, do you get a lot of things stolen from you regularly?
*Detection* said:
Wouldn't it be better to ask the police and your carrier, rather than a forum who can't speak for either party?
Seems a strange thing to be thinking about before even buying it, do you get a lot of things stolen from you regularly?
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No but I don't want a phone that i've paid 600 € will be put in the trash or down the flush by a thief due to blacklisted imei
XnameX said:
No but I don't want a phone that i've paid 600 € will be put in the trash or down the flush by a thief due to blacklisted imei
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Well don't leave your phone lying around near people who might steal it
Easy enough to keep in your pocket when you're out, and if you can't, leave it at home
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Well don't leave your phone lying around near people who might steal it
Easy enough to keep in your pocket when you're out, and if you can't, leave it at home
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Yes...you're right...it's only that this thought crossed my mind and worried me and i was too hasty to not see that i'm worrying on a thing with an easy solution...thanks for the tips...sorry for this useless thread I feel a bit stupid .-.
Sad times for me
Anything special i have to do? should i call my bank to cancel my card that's linked to samsung pay or is there no point?
But just for curiosity, what do theives do with stolen phones that are locked.
I have fingerprint/pattern lock on it so hopefully they can't unlock it.
podface said:
Sad times for me
Anything special i have to do? should i call my bank to cancel my card that's linked to samsung pay or is there no point?
But just for curiosity, what do theives do with stolen phones that are locked.
I have fingerprint/pattern lock on it so hopefully they can't unlock it.
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Did you you set up Find my Phone through the Samsung account? Should at least show you the last pinged location before it was powered off or what not
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AeroSatan said:
Did you you set up Find my Phone through the Samsung account? Should at least show you the last pinged location before it was powered off or what not
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yeaah they were clever enough to turn it off straight after snatching it off me...
podface said:
yeaah they were clever enough to turn it off straight after snatching it off me...
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That sucks man, they may turn it on to try and reset it and it should let you know where it wss tuned on at. Flag the IMEI with your carrier so they can blacklist it. Any chance you had insurance on it?
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Sorry to hear that...
Any chance there were surveillance cams nearby?
AeroSatan said:
That sucks man, they may turn it on to try and reset it and it should let you know where it wss tuned on at. Flag the IMEI with your carrier so they can blacklist it. Any chance you had insurance on it?
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blackhawk said:
Sorry to hear that...
Any chance there were surveillance cams nearby?
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thanks peeps
looks like home insurance covers me
but for cctv i doubt that would help in any way, all were wearing hoodies and probably face covered now for covid
podface said:
Sad times for me
Anything special i have to do? should i call my bank to cancel my card that's linked to samsung pay or is there no point?
But just for curiosity, what do theives do with stolen phones that are locked.
I have fingerprint/pattern lock on it so hopefully they can't unlock it.
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Oh Man, i am so sorry for this. I have been seeing your posts here and there sorry that your phone got stolen. You can also try Google's find my phone utility see if you can track those thieves. Heard there are a lot of surveillance cams in UK ..may be they will be caught soon. Will you be able to retrieve the costs otherwise ?
warriorvibhu said:
Oh Man, i am so sorry for this. I have been seeing your posts here and there sorry that your phone got stolen. You can also try Google's find my phone utility see if you can track those thieves. Heard there are a lot of surveillance cams in UK ..may be they will be caught soon. Will you be able to retrieve the costs otherwise ?
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thanks bud
yeaah also tried the google find my phone but no luck... just gonna have to take it as a loss and move on
insurance hopefully with cover most of the costs, just need to pay for the excess so it's not too bad :crying:
podface said:
yeaah they were clever enough to turn it off straight after snatching it off me...
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Go to Samsung find my mobile it doesn't matter if they turned the location off or not Samsung has a way of turning it back on now to find the phone.. At least it did to mine because I had the location turned off and I used my Note 8 to test out the find my mobile and it turned the location on by itself and accurately pinpointed the phone!
Vid can still reveal the critical eye to eye to nose measurements as well as gait. If they're on a crime spree they may screw up.
If you have the serial number see if Samsung keeps a list of stolen phones. Canon does for cams and lens.
Police as well of course.
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Go to Samsung find my mobile it doesn't matter if they turned the location off or not Samsung has a way of turning it back on now to find the phone.. At least it did to mine because I had the location turned off and I used my Note 8 to test out the find my mobile and it turned the location on by itself and accurately pinpointed the phone!
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they managed to turn the phone off since i was using it when it was snatched
if only they had a way of turning it back on remotely lol
ive tried the samsung find my phone and it will try and locate if it's turned on
podface said:
they managed to turn the phone off since i was using it when it was snatched
if only they had a way of turning it back on remotely lol
ive tried the samsung find my phone and it will try and locate if it's turned on
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You've had a pin or a finger print set up right? So at least if they turned it off and can't get back in I don't believe they be able to do anything with it, especially if you blacklist the IMEI which you should defly do.
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podface said:
they managed to turn the phone off since i was using it when it was snatched
if only they had a way of turning it back on remotely lol
ive tried the samsung find my phone and it will try and locate if it's turned on
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They're going to turn it back on some time soon trust me on that! Thieves who steal sh!t can't help themselves, especially when they steal something expensive and nice looking because they've just got to show it off to family and friends! To those of you out there who are thieves like this, you're a lowlife POS!!
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They're going to turn it back on some time soon trust me on that! Thieves who steal sh!t can't help themselves, especially when they steal something expensive and nice looking because they've just got to show it off to family and friends! To those of you out there who are thieves like this, you're a lowlife POS!!
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aha we shall see :silly:
Best to always keep it with you if not in a secure spot.
Where I'm at they'll steal anything that's not anchored with concrete.
I wear cargo pants, a vest pocket sometimes and have a belt clip as well.
Choose a carry method that's easy and convenient so you use it. Best to keep it out of sight.
The perps know you're going to get another one... once bitten, twice shy.
Dreams watching each other narrowly-JM
blackhawk said:
Best to always keep it with you if not in a secure spot.
Where I'm at they'll steal anything that's not anchored with concrete.
I wear cargo pants, a vest pocket sometimes and have a belt clip as well.
Choose a carry method that's easy and convenient so you use it. Best to keep it out of sight.
The perps know you're going to get another one... once bitten, twice shy.
Dreams watching each other narrowly-JM
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And what would that place be in the US, i want to make sure i dont move there .
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aha we shall see :silly:
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I just saw someone posting something about Chimera tool and i ended up reading about it. While I knew that its possible to change IMEI, i didnt know that it has become so easy now. You better claim that insurance as i am pretty sure that those thieves will use some tool like that to change IMEI and Reset the software.
https://findmymobile.samsung.com
And also report your IMEI to Samsung as being stolen so they can blacklist it.
podface said:
Sad times for me
Anything special i have to do? should i call my bank to cancel my card that's linked to samsung pay or is there no point?
But just for curiosity, what do theives do with stolen phones that are locked.
I have fingerprint/pattern lock on it so hopefully they can't unlock it.
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Just blacklist the IMEI, once blacklisted they can only use it as a wifi device - can't be used as a phone.
podface said:
thanks peeps
looks like home insurance covers me
but for cctv i doubt that would help in any way, all were wearing hoodies and probably face covered now for covid
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Just blacklist the IMEI, once blacklisted they can only use it as a wifi device - can't be used as a phone.
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Or for parts... which sadly may have been their goal
podface said:
they managed to turn the phone off since i was using it when it was snatched
if only they had a way of turning it back on remotely lol
ive tried the samsung find my phone and it will try and locate if it's turned on
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If you are physically capable, i would highly recommend Krav Maga. I have amazing stories of how it helped me, i would suggest learning that.
Just chatted with a Samsung employee who assured me Best Buy could unlock the bootloader on the U1 devices (mine is SM-S908UZWFXAA specifically) and created a ticket. I shall follow-up when I have time and a day off work to test this out.
He said purchasing it from them was not a prerequisite either, as I did not. I'm still a little apprehensive about it. Does anyone have any experience with this?
This sounds like someone answering a question they don't quite understand to me. But who knows. Considering how many Best Buy employees there are, you would think we would have heard of this by now. But I'm interested nonetheless lol.
Probably thought you meant sim unlock.
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This sounds like someone answering a question they don't quite understand to me. But who knows. Considering how many Best Buy employees there are, you would think we would have heard of this by now. But I'm interested nonetheless lol.
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More or less my same comment to the "expert".
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Probably thought you meant sim unlock.
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I thought that too, but they provided me with the proper model number other than just U1, which shows that it's sim unlocked already. Who knows?
Not something Best Buy would do. Also there is no Bootloader unlock on the Snapdragon models.
I just bought an xfinity locked note 10+ off ebay and was looking to get it unlocked, trouble is I've never done this before so I was wondering if I could do it myself or pay someone to do it for me (I did look online for a few services but they were ~70 dollars which seems a little pricey). Any tips on how to do this?
Return it.
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Return it.
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I can't, returns are not accepted. I just want to find a way to enter the sim unlock code.
Talk the the bank of the card the purchase was made on to have them do a charge back. Then return it. The imei could end up being blacklisted otherwise depending on its history.
i did hear that it is possible to unlock it so i wanted to try that first before returning it.
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i did hear that it is possible to unlock it so i wanted to try that first before returning it.
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Why? There are plenty of available N10+'s that don't have that liability.
Don't reward bad business practices... or make their liability yours.
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Why? There are plenty of available N10+'s that don't have that liability.
Don't reward bad business practices... or make their liability yours.
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Yeah but they are pretty expensive.
I just wanted to know if there is any way to unlock it