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Deleted first post. Stock screen is a no go. We need a new LCD all together
I was thinking about doing this, and if it is matte then that would make a difference. Just not sure if it is worth it, if the Adam comes out soon I may pick one up.
If you flip the Gtablet upside down, you will notice the angles look much better. Not sure why they mounted in a manner that has weaker angles, but it seems the most cost efficient way for a better display is if the connector, ribbon and bezel mount accommodated a 180 degree rotation
Adam is still in marketing concept stage for customer messaging. No word on their blog yet on distribution or mass production agreements by a contract manufacturer. Probably March release, if I were a betting person.
Hrmm well I Still wanna try this but I Probably wont get to it Untill atleast 2 more weeks. Broke till next pay check -_- Black Friday Deals Drained me....If all turns out good Ill post results.
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Ok so I was Reading the Hardware Breakdown thread and saw that the Model for the lcd display used in the g tablet Is used on notebooks. So if I Buy a Replacement Screen of the same model im assuming it would work if put on correctly right? Well the one in the G tablet looks to be Matte Finish type which explains bad viewing angles but I found this website that sells 2 different types of lcd Displays that should be interchangable. the Next time i Get Payed im Gonna buy the Glossy Version wich should provide Better Viewing Angles and Superior Crispness and see if it work as planed. Could this be the Screen Problem Solution we have been waiting for? Heres the Link
http://www.laptopscreen.com/English/screen-part-number/B101AW06~V.1/
Hopfully it works with our tablet and Improves the Screen Angles! This might be worse for outdoors though. if you click 'Info' on glossy it explains more!
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This sounds great let me know how it works out! My gTab arrived with about 10 dead pixels (most of them are small and i cant see them without being picky) and I am eager to try something else.
I thought viewsonic would be more picky about what kind of screens they put in their stuff.
These laptop screens might be the same, keep in mind. My netbook exhibits the same solarizing effect as my GTab - you just can't see it since you usually look at it head on.
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These laptop screens might be the same, keep in mind. My netbook exhibits the same solarizing effect as my GTab - you just can't see it since you usually look at it head on.
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I know all my laptops have better viewing angles or at least richer blacks. So I do have some hope at improvement, since the panel in mine is so messed up.
Does anyone have any experience with these exact panels? any recommendations?
any reviews on this!
the screen from the Dell Inspiron Duo (if it has the same single connector) seems to have a lot better specs. It's supposed to be 1366*768 with much better viewing angles than this piece.
In fact, I'm considering returning my GTab for one.
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the screen from the Dell Inspiron Duo (if it has the same single connector) seems to have a lot better specs. It's supposed to be 1366*768 with much better viewing angles than this piece.
In fact, I'm considering returning my GTab for one.
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3.5 hour battery life? Ew! Though the screen is nice; if it fits I wouldn't mind getting one and putting it in.
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3.5 hour battery life? Ew! Though the screen is nice; if it fits I wouldn't mind getting one and putting it in.
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Battery life isn't issue #1 for me. Usability is, and that's where the gtablet starts falling off for me. I feel that I can do a lot better for the money.
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I think the issue with the Dell screen is going to be the connector. I get the feeling nobody else is using the tiny non-locking Molex connectors the gtablet uses.
To those looking for reviews, just Google "Pixel Qi Review", I can't post links otherwise I would do so. There's several articles on Engadget, and a few videos on Gizmodo and Slashgear. The idea behind Pixel Qi is that in sunlight you can disable the backlight, and the sunlight is reflected off the back (inside) of the screen; this makes the sunlight act as a backlight, resulting in being more viewable outdoors. Also, the display can be switched between 'normal' LCD and 'e-paper' style as well. Really, the biggest reason I'm interested is the viewing angles. Netbook LCDs have horrible viewing angles (the G Tablet's screen is a Netbook LCD), so I would love to see this tablet with a better display.
Pilxel qi seems to way way more expensive priced at almost 300$, Which is almost the price of another tablet. Also do they even make pixel qi screens that work on this tablet? I couldnt find it on the website
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This sounds great let me know how it works out! My gTab arrived with about 10 dead pixels (most of them are small and i cant see them without being picky) and I am eager to try something else.
I thought viewsonic would be more picky about what kind of screens they put in their stuff.
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Why wouldn't you return that?
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Why wouldn't you return that?
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I just might, but i waited for a few weeks trying to pick one up. most of the pixel defects are small and right at the edge of the screen. there is one kind of annoying one right in the middle though :/
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I just might, but i waited for a few weeks trying to pick one up. most of the pixel defects are small and right at the edge of the screen. there is one kind of annoying one right in the middle though :/
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Return it! Complain! get a New one! dont stand for somthing less than satisfactory!
has anyone tried swapping out the screen?
It is my only gripe about the tablet lol.
Honestly i dont care though because all other tablets are priced 100-200 more and have lower hardware specs.
I can live with the screen considering it really isnt too bad... just by comparison it isnt as good as the iPad.
I cant compare 7" tablets though... because ... frankly they are 7 inches... you squeeze more pixels into a smaller screen and it will look nicer... simple as that.
If you think about it... us early g-tab adopters can hack ours up and when we want a new one ... probably sell a hacked up gtab for a pretty penny when we are done with it.
I'm not sure why there are so many complaints. How often are you going to look at a tablet at sharp angles?? The only legitimate angle that someone mentioned was if the tablet was laying flat on a table in front of you and you were reading an eBook or something.
Maybe it's just the way I use it, but I don't have a problem with the screen at all.
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I'm not sure why there are so many complaints. How often are you going to look at a tablet at sharp angles?? The only legitimate angle that someone mentioned was if the tablet was laying flat on a table in front of you and you were reading an eBook or something.
Maybe it's just the way I use it, but I don't have a problem with the screen at all.
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Landscape Mode is Fine but I Cant stand it when Im Trying to read a Book in Portrait mode. Kinda have to tilt it and it just looks stupid. This tablet is Best Landscape only. Thats why It Would be Nice to have a Better Screen With Better Angles. Theres 3 Versions of the LCD Screen I Mentioned on the first post. I Wonder if one of those would fit....hmmm....
disclaimer: doing what I say could cause your tablet to burst into flames, your mother-in-law to come camp at your house, your dog to start eying the neighbor's cat with inappropriate affection... Your mileage may vary, results not typical of a normal customer, not intended to treat any disease known to man... you get the idea... If your screen turns into a sandblasted fuming pile of slag I don't wanna hear about it. That said...
I bought my wife an iPad for Christmas and was getting irritated with how bad my gtablet screen looked, felt and behaved in comparison. A little research listed some things I couldn't realistically change (higher pixel density and count, better build quality, IPS vs TN style) and a few that were worth looking into (fingerprint-resistant oleophobic coating, general UI slickness).
The UI was easy (*big* props to the TnT lite and Vegantab devs as well as ubernerds cranking out the new kernel builds and patches)
The fingerprints... mostly solved using Rain-X. (plain yellow-bottle). I experimented on a little patch of screen (furthest corner from the light sensor) with positive results, then took the plunge and coated the entire screen. Results: Wow! Waaaaaaay less smudging, and the fingerprints that do stay come off easily with a microfiber cloth. My fingers glide now (like on the iPad) and the screen seems more responsive and sensitive.
The weird part: colors seem richer, the viewing angle is still as bad, but not as violently obnoxious and my eyes don't go as nuts when i'm holding the tablet portrait.
Materials: a gtablet, a clean cotton rag, Rain-X, a clean microfiber cloth - the terry-towel style, not the skinny eyeglass-cleaner style. You want dirt to be caught up in the fibers, not dragging along the surface of your screen (microfiber towels were invented to pick up dust and keep it away from the surface being cleaned - they're supposed to be fuzzy and soft, I use the big ones from Costco - for car detailing), a little tap water.
Method: (1) read the disclaimer above. (2) scrupulously clean the screen with the microfiber cloth - first, wipe to remove surface dust then *dampen* one end of the cloth with a little tap water and clean, then switch to the dry end again and polish. Check your results under a harsh light, get all the haze and stuff off. Your screen should be pristine before continuing. Dust and grime will scratch your display, so be gentle... (2) use enough Rain-X to wet the corner of the clean cotton rag then, (3) apply the rain-x to the screen using very light overlapping swirls. At first it will bead on the screen surface, but in 20-30 seconds as you keep swirling it will start drying to a uniform hazy coating - this is what you want. (4) with the "wet" end of the microfiber cloth... make it a bit wetter - very damp, but not dripping then use this end to buff off most of the hazy rain-x coating, then switch to the "dry" end of the microfiber cloth to buff off the rest. (5) check your results under a harsh light, using the dry microfiber cloth to remove any leftover haze. (6) marvel at your new display
I will go get some rain-x and a new microfiber cloth but will admit I hope more Guinea pigs report results, before I get around to taking the plunge with this novel idea
Don't want to go off topic, but it is possible to change the pixel density. Look up lcddensity on the market. Works well, but vegan doesn't play nice with it.
As for your solution, I really want to try it out, but I'll wait for other Guinea pigs to try it out.
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Don't want to go off topic, but it is possible to change the pixel density. Look up lcddensity on the market. Works well, but vegan doesn't play nice with it.
As for your solution, I really want to try it out, but I'll wait for other Guinea pigs to try it out.
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You're correct. There is a display setting for pixel density (used to calculate apparent size when rendering to a display). In this case I was referring to the physical pixels on the LCD panels: (boring long-answer comes next...)
The iPad has 786,432 pixels (made up of 2,359,296 subpixels) and by my (crude) measurements they're spaced evenly at 132 pixels per inch horizontally and vertically. With a 45.039 sq.in. display the iPad's optical density works out to 17,461 pixels per square inch {my measurement}.
The gtablet has 614,400 pixels (1,843,200 subpixels) placed 116.9 per inch on the long side and 121.43 per inch along the short edge (some software assumes that the gtablet pixel density is even horizontally and vertically - that's why some circles look like ellipses and uncorrected video clips make people fatter in landscape than they would portrait {ahem}). With 43.28 square inches of viewable area the gtablet's overall optical density is 14,196 pixels per sq.in.
By my math, the iPad's overall optical density is 23% higher than the gtablets. This just reflects the number of raw pixels. I suspect the newer IPS technology screen would also have less wasted interpixel space - boosting perceived contrast and color saturation.
I'm not really an Apple fan, but I am a technology fan and I gotta give the fruited ones their due... in every class they redefine display quality, and it takes a year for everyone else to catch up: iPhone 4 - we *might* see comparable display quality in a few months from a competitor. iPad - by the time anything matches it's IPS screen, the iPad2 will launch. Mac Air... the 13.3" screen with 1440x900 resolution... {drool}... and I saw a big iMac screen yesterday that really blew my hair back. No, Apple probably doesn't invent display technology, but they're really good at showcasing it.
but I digress
Alot of the new 10" tegra2 tablets coming out next year are going to have a 1280x800 resolution.
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Alot of the new 10" tegra2 tablets coming out next year are going to have a 1280x800 resolution.
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I know LG is sourcing a 1366x768 that's now a build option for the generic gtab/zpad/vega et al. The extra pixels are nice, but I wish they'd stick with 1:1 ppi density or close-to. My bionic eye sees a real hit in text quality and subpixel rendering artifacts when the physical pixels start to elongate. I also find the 4:3 aspect ratio to be noticeably better for general websurfing and online document reading (like PDFs)...
With current tech, we should have 1920x1080 panels in our gtablets! I'll bet the next iPad keeps the same form factor, but ups the processing and display to dual-core ULV something (maybe even not compatible with their current processor) and integrated SoC processing with a 10" 4:3 1600x1200 panel. ~200 ppi density, square pixels... iRetina?
We need to one-up Apple If we add an array of micro-lenses over each pixel (like the Panasonic projector panels) and alternate the subpixel offsets between frames we could actually do high-definition 3d without glasses (I just invented this while typing) think like the 3D monitor in the movie "Paycheck"...
So, from rain-x to resolution. Thread hijacking seems to be the norm here and moderators, at least in the gtab threads don't do squat to discourage it.
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I'm so going to try the rainx idea. Anyone else getting success with thid?
Be careful what we wish for, i know peope get off topic but its still a new forum and it does get modded. I know we don't want it too tight. but I'd rather see off topic or mis-placed / duplicate posts with answers than flaming amd whining.
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So, from rain-x to resolution. Thread hijacking seems to be the norm here and moderators, at least in the gtab threads don't do squat to discourage it.
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.... And haters still hate ...
With all due respect, we are still talking about displays at least. Yeah it may get a little sidetracked, but thats the natural progression of conversation. The OP is still active with GOOD information and not babbling about ...
I for one would rather be under-moderated than over.. On another forum i got the "first warning" from a mod when i mentioned that his motorcycle guage area looked cluttered with radar and gps equipment..
PS, if you are genuinely concerned with rampant thread abuse, why not start a NEW thread instead of "hijacking" one that a mod is certainly never going to read ....
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So, from rain-x to resolution. Thread hijacking seems to be the norm here and moderators, at least in the gtab threads don't do squat to discourage it.
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Thank you for your concern, but I must reject your premise. It's my thread and I'm OK with it wandering a bit. That said...
As a follow-up: I've arrived at my office - with the harshest of unforgiving overhead flourescents... I'm still very impressed. Keep in mind that these are my subjective observations with no before/after pictures... It's a significantly better experience than yesterday (before the Rain-X) under the same conditions. Fingerprints are *much* less visible than before and those that remain are almost completely removed using the ball of my thumb. They'd have combined into a greasy smudge before. The screen still feels silky-smooth and the touchscreen feels more responsive and accurate. The absense of veiling haze makes color richer. Before, in portrait the display made me nuts with a sort of evil-3d-both-eyes-are-out-of-phase effect. That effect is markedly reduced, but I really can't think of why. My observations from last night are still valid: The viewing angles are still crap, but less irritating for some reason.
I can see no evidence of crazing or delamination on the screen surface with my unaided eye or through a loupe.
so far, so good
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I'm so going to try the rainx idea. Anyone else getting success with thid?
Be careful what we wish for, i know peope get off topic but its still a new forum and it does get modded. I know we don't want it too tight. but I'd rather see off topic or mis-placed / duplicate posts with answers than flaming amd whining.
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Rain-x'd my tab last night...and was impressed...no prints sticking around and smooth sliding onthe screen. Gonna check it ont eh Commute this am with a little reading and then int eh office. So far it looks great tho...
Color me happy.
By the way, in case anybody is paranoid like me, I looked up the MSDS safety sheet for Rain-X ( http://www.windtrax.com/images/MSDS/RX11169_MSDS.pdf ) and read about ingredients. It sounds like it's just an alcohol base with polydimethylsiloxane (aka dimethicone) and a few similar hydrophobic compounds that "cure" and bind with the silica in the glass. These compounds are considered inert and non-toxic.
So as far as I can tell, I don't see any evidence that this leaves anything nasty, toxic or bad on your G Tablet screen. Anybody with any information otherwise, please share. Because I want to Rain-X my screen now.
I think I'm going to have to try this, maybe this weekend. Anybody else see successful results?
gonna wait on rain-x
im gonna wait to see if there are any long term problems with using rain-x on plastic or what ever the GTab is made of.
but thanks for the idea sounds good on (forum) paper.
-GeeVee
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im gonna wait to see if there are any long term problems with using rain-x on plastic or what ever the GTab is made of.
but thanks for the idea sounds good on (forum) paper.
-GeeVee
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The G Tablet screen is glass, not plastic. Rain X is made to work on glass. The only thing that's plastic is the back of the case - ergo, don't rub Rain X all over the back of your case.
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im gonna wait to see if there are any long term problems with using rain-x on plastic or what ever the GTab is made of...
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I gotta ask, what's your rain-x bottle made out of, and can you still see through it ?? haha
I seriously doubt rain-x is going to harm anything.. Rain-x isn't permanent, which means at some point it's going to rub off..
Oh and the rain-x idea worked great on my tab..
PS, i've used rain-x on my motorcycle helmet visors for years with zero problems
I agree on the RainX tip -- I've used it on my phone (which is more often subject to rain than this tablet) for a while and it seems to help keep the screen clear.
I'll apply it to my tablet as well (it's starting to get grungy already so overdue for a cleaning)
BTW:
I tried LCD density and I liked how it looked on Vegan Beta 4 -- there were a few odd glitches (Notifications pull down was mis-sized) but it fixed the odd appearance of the shutdown menu when in Landscape mode...
May be my imagination, but it seemed to help the viewing angles a bit -- but not sure how (??)
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By the way, in case anybody is paranoid like me, I looked up the MSDS safety sheet for Rain-X ( http://www.windtrax.com/images/MSDS/RX11169_MSDS.pdf ) and read about ingredients. It sounds like it's just an alcohol base with polydimethylsiloxane (aka dimethicone) and a few similar hydrophobic compounds that "cure" and bind with the silica in the glass. These compounds are considered inert and non-toxic.
So as far as I can tell, I don't see any evidence that this leaves anything nasty, toxic or bad on your G Tablet screen. Anybody with any information otherwise, please share. Because I want to Rain-X my screen now.
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so basically lotion ?
Clear, smooth, sexy fingerprint resistant lotion
Treated my Gtab w/ rain-x as well last night and all is good so far. Definitely less fingerprints/oils hanging around.
Great tip
How much of this is to be expected?
I have a noticeable amount , of course I only noticed it when in a dark room against black backgrounds.. but it makes me wonder if I should demand another unit from amazon.
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Mine has it too. bottom right side and bottom. Only visible when watching full screen video that's letterboxed. Doesn't bother me though.
I notice it gets worse when I flex the tablet by holding it in landscape by the bottom left corner so I kind of wonder if in part it is more predominant on that corner for my tablet because that's the primary way that I hold the tablet. It's not like I can flex it the other way to get rid of the bleeding completely though so I don't know if I can reverse it. If memory serves, out of the box I already had some bleed anyhow. This is my second Note Pro and the first one had bleed on the bottom as well.
I'm sure you'll get responses from some who have no light bleed, some of which actually do but it doesn't bother them and some who really do not have any bleed. It's up to you I guess if it is worth the effort and waiting to try to get a perfect one. For me it simply is not . .
Thanks.. can any one post any pictures of their tablet?
I have attached mine under full brightness, total darkness and black background.. it is slightly exaggerated in some phots as it depends on what angle you see the screen
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I have the same hot spot on the bottom edge to the right of center. On the right bottom corner I have some that is less pronounced.
The only 'sort of' light bleed I have is from the two softkeys when they light up.... Other than that, none whatsoever. (Can't take a photo as I can't imagine they'll shut down the entire train to give me some darkness...)
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The only 'sort of' light bleed I have is from the two softkeys when they light up.... Other than that, none whatsoever. (Can't take a photo as I can't imagine they'll shut down the entire train to give me some darkness...)
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Therefore i could be one of the unlucky ones.. .. although it is not something i cant live with, however i want to get my money's worth
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Therefore i could be one of the unlucky ones.. .. although it is not something i cant live with, however i want to get my money's worth
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Well, from the looks of this thread you're not the only one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645374
After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
Thanks
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After trying and failing with the S8/S8+ I decided to go for the U11.
I ordered two phones from Amazon, one for myself and one for family. They were the amazing silver. We powered them on, and then noticed backlight bleed along the lower edge. The guy on this review is the only reviewer who mentions it and shows the problem:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...pretty-good-phone-if-anyones-still-listening/
Not only that, but both phones had a dead pixel on the screen (But I think that's just my bad luck . I took it on myself to watch reviews on youtube, and I think the lower edge problem has been there on every review unit, but no reviewer mentioned it.
I really am considering a switch to the U11, but I have a serious screen OCD so I wanted to put it to you guys... Do you all experience this? And is it terribly bad on every day performance?
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I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
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I don't have it at all that I can see. Sorry for your luck but my device is flawless.
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Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
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Thanks for the quick response. Check this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u11/help/minor-issues-stuck-pixel-sound-static-t3621512
A guy posted a picture as a response. See the shadow along the bottom edge? If you don't have that, at all, this gives me hope. What color is your device if you don't mind me asking.
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No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
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No shadow, no dead pixels (just went through a full pixel test - jeez this backlight will blind you on full!), no scuffed glass, nothing. It's the first device I've ever gotten from HTC with no complaints about the screen (my M7 had a yellow tint as did the M8 and the first few weeks of owning my 10, the glue hadn't settled so it was pink tinted and I had to have the Sprint store open up 8 EVOs before I found an acceptable screen to give you an idea - never had a dead pixel except on AMOLED ironically enough).
It's the Sapphire Blue.
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Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
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Thanks mate I do love the phone, and am considering another go. My guess is you are -very- lucky, most of the units I've seen myself on youtube (if not all), have it to a certain extend. Treasure and keep it !
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Yeah out of all phones I've ever ordered, this one is by far my favorite. Ridiculous battery life, no lag, great screen, no gimmicks (edge sense is actually quite useful - I use it to launch my camera immediately when I'm out and about), excellent camera, doesn't overheat, crystal clear call quality, loud speaker set up... Only thing I don't like is News Republic chewing up my battery and not being able to disable it.
I haven't even rooted it yet. Every other phone I've rooted within a week, oftentimes the day I've received it. I ordered it May 16th from HTC on pre-order and got it on June 9th. No phone has ever been in my possession that long without being modded somehow, even if it was just changing the launcher.
The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
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The light bleed problem affected every review unit as you said, and there have been several threads here mentioning it. My conclusion is that nearly every U11 has the problem although it's rather subtle so not easy not to notice if you don't know about it.
Personally I'm rather OCD about screens and I'm not happy about this defect but I'm now used to it. The location is just one that you don't look at normally. In fact I think we've grown used to ignore the lowest part of the screen as it's where ads normally sit. Also it kinda helps that the bleed gets reduced a lot depending on the angle you look at the screen from.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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I'm very OCD regarding LCD screen and the phone itself. The phone is perfect except for the light bleeding, a stuck pixel and some sound static in earphone. Otherwise the phone is perfect like the camera, sound, battery life and performance.
As I bought the phone from Hong Kong its a pain in the... To return it. So with a 10% discount off that seller gave me I learned to enjoy and love the phone.
My HTC One X, M8x, 10 U11 and the S8+ all suffered from flaws being the S8+ the worst (random restarting and pinkish screen tone) so I'm not a lucky person about phones.
@evak2979 i sent you a message but basically it's about accepting defeat when it comes to small flaws, unfortunately there's not more to it. Although of course, if your phone has serious build issues that no one else has it should go back to HTC.
I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
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I have is as well. Actually this is my second unit (Black), the previous (Silver) had it as well. I can see it in display test application but I would say it is not affecting normal usage. Overall I am happy with display quality.
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Like I told my new pal on PM, I got the S8+ new for a very good price (539, UK).
If that sinks, I'll bite the bullet and return to HTC. It's funny because I don't mind scuffs, or scratches, or what. I just want a normal okay screen. I remember being happy with Note 4, with S5, With M8, With M9.
Then this new fashion started with every display being the dumbs
And the S8+ arrived with dust under the glass.
I've fought for a long time with my OCD to accept that AMOLEDs will never have consistent whites (though my one plus 3t is perfect, the one phone I've kept over the months). As of late with the S8 it's also been, full red edges, dead pixels, dust specs.
Let's try the U11 again. If it just has light bleed and no dead pixels I'll keep it...
I don't have light bleed.
I use edge to launch my calendar.
Sound through the earphones is shockingly good!
It looks dated in any other color but blue or red.
Those bezels? Ug.
The screen is beautiful and they've coated with oleophilics that feel INCREDIBLE.
The camera is excellent.
It's a very VERY good phone.
I have it on mine, but It's hardly even noticeable... Definitely not a game-changer for me. It's not enough for me to return it for a new one.
Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
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Thanks. I am considering getting a device regardless. I will ponder it over the weekend - and if you are OCD and can live with it, so must I. If you can help with advice on how to deal with such impulses (over screens), do drop me a message. I am desperately trying to drop that habit off.
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Just updating that I received my HTC U11 black, and I sent it back with a dead pixel. That's the third U11 with dead pixels, the first two having been silvers from Amazon.
I have also encountered issues with S8s (dust under glass), but not so much or frequent.
I want to get a U11 more than I do an S8, but I am really really skeptical about a few things - the build quality of the panel. The reports that some of the units are not so water proof (The solar reds apparently, a youtube search I did testified to that.
Sorry for diverting this thread from its original post, but I am really curious about you guys' opinion. I agree to having screen OCD, and that I should lower my standards when it comes to white consistency on AMOLED, for example. Or even some light bleed on LCD panels.
But dead pixels? Dead pixels on 649 pound devices, top end flagship? What is going on with QC and how lost must we drop our standards.
And if anyone thinks I am lying I am happy to provide with pictures...
If anyone from the UK has a relatively faultless HTC, please tell me where you bought it from so I can buy from there myself. And which color variant.
Thank you.
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Hi, I believe you as I have the same problem with my Asian version. But can you share a picture? I want to compare mine with yours.
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Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
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Of course...Here. Same on all three, just in different positions.
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Mine is in a similar position but it's not black. Indeed it changes according to the color but of course it's different from the rest. Mine is more a defective pixel than a dead or stuck one. I thought it was the same pixel issue but it's not.
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Nah mine is dead dead.
I am considering a 4th U11. At this point, I don't even care about the light bleed. But 3/3 with dead pixels, it can't just be bad luck. That's the thing. I mean this is very bad QC. None of the reviewers are mentioning things like this. Or the issues with the S8 screen.
I think at this point someone needs to step up and say : ok guys, these are the GOOD things about the phone. But there is also
S8 (red tints, even after patch. Bad smudges on grey. Dust particles under panel)
U11 (Dead pixels. Light bleed at bottom of the screen).
In the end, the only trustworthy review is XDA forums and its users.
I really love the Oneplus 6, top to bottom, don't care the missing of the stereo speaker or the notch (cause OOS seem to deal with it quite good)
The only issue keeps me from buying it is the camera. I have seen a lot of reviews and comments about the camera and they are pretty mixed which confused me.
I need the phone to last for about 3 years or so and I mainly use it when I travel and to takes photos. I heard that there are updates that fix things but still read that there are issues.
Can you guys give me your own opinion about the camera and if I should go for it or move to the Galaxy S8 plus?
P/s: quite sure that I will try to use Gcam instead on both phone, have it on my old phone and it absolutely surprised me cuz the image came out quite nice for such an old phone.
Not a fan of any brands (except Iphone which I don't really like, but I do like Ipad and I don't hate Apple by any means) so if you have other recommendation under $500 then feels free to say, so far I only see these 2 are the best for what my budget can buy.
Thank you for your helps.
It's right there with the best cameras. It beats then in certain shots and they beat it on certain shots in the comparison tests. I still think it might be a hair behind the likes of the s9, pixel 2xl and I think it's better then the iPhone overall. It's close in low light to them, as good if not better in good light and it handled the bright areas better then dinner of this phones in not blowing out the highlights.
I have zero complaints and I'm an enthusiast photographer. Unless I'm doing a wedding or something really important, I have no issues using this camera. It more then does the job. Of course you can get a shot it doesn't handle well, but every PHONE is the same way. None will replace a dslr
The camera is mint works amazing!
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It's right there with the best cameras. It beats then in certain shots and they beat it on certain shots in the comparison tests. I still think it might be a hair behind the likes of the s9, pixel 2xl and I think it's better then the iPhone overall. It's close in low light to them, as good if not better in good light and it handled the bright areas better then dinner of this phones in not blowing out the highlights.
I have zero complaints and I'm an enthusiast photographer. Unless I'm doing a wedding or something really important, I have no issues using this camera. It more then does the job. Of course you can get a shot it doesn't handle well, but every PHONE is the same way. None will replace a dslr
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Wow glad to hear from a photographer, I would definitely pick OP 6 if I don't mind the camera as I used to, but planned to go on multiple vacations with it and personally loves to take scenery photos so your reply helps a bunch.
Gonna take another look and get the OP 6. My friend has a deal for it with about 100$ off
No, it's not worth it. Theres bad oil painting effect in low light. Pics are very hit and miss, some are great, some are awful and now I have dust under the lens and I have a black spot I can't get rid of on photos. I certainly couldn't recommend it.
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No, it's not worth it. Theres bad oil painting effect in low light. Pics are very hit and miss, some are great, some are awful and now I have dust under the lens and I have a black spot I can't get rid of on photos. I certainly couldn't recommend it.
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Darn that sounds bad, but I head it only apply to A6003 model?
Some of the people I know used the OP 6 but none reported that issues ((
But sounds worrying
Ethan140310 said:
Darn that sounds bad, but I head it only apply to A6003 model?
Some of the people I know used the OP 6 but none reported that issues ((
But sounds worrying
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Its not bad. On my recent trip to Canada and USA, I packed my Nikon 850. I took over 1200 pictures during my 2 weeks vacation. I might have used my Nikon for less than 75 shots. Convenience of phone camera outweighs the hassle of lugging a complete system. Unless you are taking pictures for a luving, this phone camera will be more than suffice to satisfy your shutterbug needs.
I strongly believe that it's not the camera but eye behind the camera that make or break the picture. If you are little dissatisfied with extremely low light shots, you can enhance in post production. Make sure to keep HDR option on. I had S8+ abd my wife still has S9 and I can tell you from a bormal viewing distance, you could not tell the difference apart. Remember, you can always switch to pro camera mode for better control. Hope this helps. Good luck.
Photos quality
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/photo-quality-t3772651
Video quality
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/video-quality-t3772652
Low light
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/low-light-t3772650
i will not suggest samsung phone if you love to take pic on kid or pet in indoor with (basically any moving object in low light on samsung phone come up blur mess), other than that i agree s8 has a bit better on camera, and you may need to get use to the very slow update on samsung
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Photos quality
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/photo-quality-t3772651
Video quality
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/video-quality-t3772652
Low light
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6/review/low-light-t3772650
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I do really understand why you bring the links here but seriously I read all of those (except the video one since I'm not fond of that anyway, have like 1 or 2 videos taken with my 2.5 years old phone) and it's really confusing, some said good some said bad (and they do have evidence)
I check on xda (which tbh my trusty place to find user experience) and they are mixed.
I check on youtube with those reviewers I think that are not bs, and it's still mixed.
I check all those reviews on the internet and other forums, and it's still mixed.
I don't usually do these Q&A on XDA (this actually my first) because this is just too hard to decide this time.
Thanks you for your help but it yet solve my confusions.
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i will not suggest samsung phone if you love to take pic on kid or pet in indoor with (basically any moving object in low light on samsung phone come up blur mess), other than that i agree s8 has a bit better on camera, and you may need to get use to the very slow update on samsung
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That's interesting, I use it for my vacations and I love to take scenery shots (and probally a few shot with my friends or selfies but only a little as I don't like to take photos of myself or person in general)
I'm still yet decided if I stick with Samsung software or move to a custom rom since they both have pros and cons (and somehow I find the S8 forum is not really active?)
but I totally love the experience that I saw on the OP 6 so far.
If you have either of the phone or both, I would really love to hear more of your opinion, thank you.
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Its not bad. On my recent trip to Canada and USA, I packed my Nikon 850. I took over 1200 pictures during my 2 weeks vacation. I might have used my Nikon for less than 75 shots. Convenience of phone camera outweighs the hassle of lugging a complete system. Unless you are taking pictures for a luving, this phone camera will be more than suffice to satisfy your shutterbug needs.
I strongly believe that it's not the camera but eye behind the camera that make or break the picture. If you are little dissatisfied with extremely low light shots, you can enhance in post production. Make sure to keep HDR option on. I had S8+ abd my wife still has S9 and I can tell you from a bormal viewing distance, you could not tell the difference apart. Remember, you can always switch to pro camera mode for better control. Hope this helps. Good luck.
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That sounds really interesting, can i have a few of your shots to check out cause really I love the phone just the camera is bugging me.
If I need a phone purely for daily experience then this definitely in my pocket right now
Scenery shots will be best since I will use it mostly for scenery, thank you so much!
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That sounds really interesting, can i have a few of your shots to check out cause really I love the phone just the camera is bugging me.
If I need a phone purely for daily experience then this definitely in my pocket right now
Scenery shots will be best since I will use it mostly for scenery, thank you so much!
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I will post few sample shots thus evening whe I return home.
Ethan140310 said:
That sounds really interesting, can i have a few of your shots to check out cause really I love the phone just the camera is bugging me.
If I need a phone purely for daily experience then this definitely in my pocket right now
Scenery shots will be best since I will use it mostly for scenery, thank you so much!
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Here are some sample shots.
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Here are some sample shots.
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That looks absolutely good!
Already contacted my friend for the deal but there is an issue bugging me tho.
Others said that they have some issue with dust in the lens, do you have any idea about this?
Ethan140310 said:
That looks absolutely good!
Already contacted my friend for the deal but there is an issue bugging me tho.
Others said that they have some issue with dust in the lens, do you have any idea about this?
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I am not sure who and why they are saying about the dust issues. Absolutely no dust issues here. Previously posted shots are the proof. You would have noticed diffraction if there was any dust. To put your mind at ease, spend $2 and buy tempered glass lens protector on Amazon, eBay, or Aliexpress. I dont even use cover or screen protector for my phone (never have used for the last 15 years or so). Rather than worrying about protecting, enjoy by actually using the gadget-my two cents worth advice.
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I am not sure who and why they are saying about the dust issues. Absolutely no dust issues here. Previously posted shots are the proof. You would have noticed diffraction if there was any dust. To put your mind at ease, spend $2 and buy tempered glass lens protector on Amazon, eBay, or Aliexpress. I dont even use cover or screen protector for my phone (never have used for the last 15 years or so). Rather than worrying about protecting, enjoy by actually using the gadget-my two cents worth advice.
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I tend to drop my phone so probably a shockproof case (and be more careful since it's glass) but thank you so much for the advice! :highfive::highfive: