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http://www.metrocellinc.com/htc-touch-pro.html
was the first listing on google.
Anyone know????
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http://www.metrocellinc.com/htc-touch-pro.html
was the first listing on google.
Anyone know????
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Gotta be a crock tbh.
Cheapest ive seen it around and according to our vendors list is £490 (notice pounds).
mrvanx said:
Gotta be a crock tbh.
Cheapest ive seen it around and according to our vendors list is £490 (notice pounds).
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I'm gonna have to agree this seems like a crock. I paid £424.80 without VAT at hantech.co.uk
Umm stay clear is my advice......with a "business email that is a yahoo email address. In the uk i always check for a VAT number, not sure if its the same over there, but there seems to be very little info about them......
What the hell is VAT? I see that on all the Europian sites. What exactly is it.
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What the hell is VAT? I see that on all the Europian sites. What exactly is it.
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Value Added Tax. see the wiki description here.
VAT
Value Added Tax,
It's the equivalent of the State Sales Tax, however for the UK it's a massive 17.5% - OUCH
All sites in the UK show their registered VAT number, which is unique to that business. I purchased cheep software (MS Office) from a site once, didnt have a vat number, and the software turned out to be hacked.
The Real Deal Or Not!
Anybody know about this website, is it the real or not? uhhh! I think I will do some research on this website tomorrow............!
I call BS. If you think it's too good to be true, it probably is.
total BS! think about it.
Kitchicus said:
It's the equivalent of the State Sales Tax, however for the UK it's a massive 17.5% - OUCH
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Duh
In the Netherlands the legal thieves (government) take a humungous 19%
And they were even considering to raise it to 20%, but that had so much economic consequences that they didn't dare to do so.
But on-topic now: It has to be fake.
I bought the Raphael (HTC Touch Pro) for €602.= , est. £400,= or $870,=
That was almost the cheappest price possible in the netherlands.
So $450,= is almost 50% off, can't be legit.
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ronh said:
Duh
In the Netherlands the legal thieves (government) take a humungous 19%
And they were even considering to raise it to 20%, but that had so much economic consequences that they didn't dare to do so.
But on-topic now: It has to be fake.
I bought the Raphael (HTC Touch Pro) for €602.= , est. £400,= or $870,=
That was almost the cheappest price possible in the netherlands.
So $450,= is almost 50% off, can't be legit.
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I got my peolpe checking it out now!
Metrocellinc?
Well I was suprised too ...and I e-mailed them,so that's what I was told:
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ME: "I would like to buy Xperia X1, but before that I have a few questions:
First of all I would like to ask why are those cell phones so cheap and are they clones?Are they woking properly and can I use them to Europe?
Second how can you sell Xperia when the world premiere of that phone is in November?
How can I be sure that is secure? And what is the cost of delivery to Williamsburg VA? And how can I return it (if I'm not pleased) and have the full price back?"
Metrocellinc: "Thanks for your Inquiry.
We have the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 available in stock, Brand New, Unlocked, Factory Sealed and comes with a 1 year warranty.
You have been able to find phones at this price due to our Summer closeout sales (offer valid while stock last) We are Authorised sony dealers and we are currently on introductory sales into the market.
You will be getting a 3days return policy and a 1 year warranty. The X1 is compatible with any carrier anywhere in the world as it supports triband and quadband.
Delivery is $40
How many units do you intend to purchase?
We accept payments via Money Gram. Do you know where a Money Gram Agent is located?
Regards,
Jean."
Me: "Can I Pay with Visa?"
Metrocellinc: "At this time we are unable to accept payments via Credit Cards as we are currently facing problems with our credit card processor.
Money Gram is the only payment alternative."
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Althought there's no note about that paying problem in their site!!!
Also...
do they look familiar?
http://www.cellconet.biz/htc-touch-pro.html
http://phonecot.com/index.html
http://weberstores.us/mobile-phones.html
http://market-actionsltd.com/electronics.html
http://www.electronikstore.com/mobile-phone.html
http://pacificproductsltd.com/ -the last one has Registered No.05990322
JOJIA said:
Metrocellinc: "At this time we are unable to accept payments via Credit Cards as we are currently facing problems with our credit card processor.
Money Gram is the only payment alternative."
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FYI wire transfers are bad ...
http://pages.ebay.com/securitycenter/mrkt_safety/instantcashtransfer.html#moneygram
even they tell you it can be bad
http://moneygram.com/MGI/EN/ConsumerProtection/index.htm?CC=US&LC=EN
now down to 484 inc vat at expansys
This is a scam...like jodia I emailed them for validity. Never heard back after I told them COD only!
MetroCellInc:"Hi, Thanks for your Inquiry. We have the Htc Touch Pro available in stock, Brand New, Unlocked, Factory Sealed and comes with a 1 year warranty. This is a worldwide unlocked version. 100% compatible with T-Mobile. How many units do you intend to purchase and where will you be shipping to?
For payments we can only accept Money Gram at this time as we are currently facing technical problems with our Credit Card processor.
Regards, Jean."
Me:"Hi Jean, Unfortunately, our Company is not authorized to use Moneygram. We can only use MC, Paypal, or Cash On Delivery (COD). Since your MC Card processor is broke, you can mail it COD to complete this sale."
...so the last reply is:
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Metrocellinc:
"At this time we can only accept payments via Money Gram. Below are the details needed to send funds via Money Gram:
Receiver's First Name: Emma
Receiver's Last Name: Depoe
Address: 20330 Northeast 2nd Avenue, Miami, Florida 33133
Amount: $440
Once payment is sent, you are to send the Reference Number, Sender's Name and Address as it appears on the payment receipt for confirmation.
Regards,
Jean."
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I don't feel secure about this!!!Although the prices are fantastic....
....again too good to be true
Hmmm heavily underpriced, Payment exclusivly MoneyGram? Definite Scam. This kind of thing is often all over ebay. Has anyone actually gone through with a transaction with this crowd and got anything?
If yer looking for a cheap Raphael take a look at the Raphael Vendor Wiki
I keep that up to date weekly and at this time the top 3 cheapest sellers are Tiga Dua Cellular in Indonesia for €497.43 , 2Call from Netherlands for €576.00 and DigiTec of Switzerland for €585.60.
The most expensive I've seen is €739.00 in Portugal by Fnac.
Anyways Head to the Vendor Wiki at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael_Vendors
If you know any other retailers add them to the wiki
From http://www.fraudwatchers.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17890:
I was scammed by an electronics seller which offers iphone 3G, Nokia, and all phones of the moment. (they say they are located in the US but i´m not sure of this!)
DONT BUY ANYTHING FROM HIM !! THIS IS A BIG SCAM !!
the link :http://my-diversitydepotinc.com/
but also
http://www.cellphoneltd3g.com
and for sure other ones powered by e-yahoo which allows anyone to create a store on the internet. They also have a cart system...
Big scammer !!!
And of course, the money was send via Western Union to a certain :
Emma DEPOE
139 High Road
FL 32304 Tallahassee
My so called customer´s contact was: Patrick M. Peters.
Dont make the same mistake as i did and just be aware that companies which have an account by e-yahoo, even with a good looking site, may be a scam. Be sure not to pay with Western Union or unsecure ways.
SCAM SCAMMER :
cellphoneltd3g.com
solution-connection-mart.com
phonesuperstoreinc.com
phonecitytelecommunications.co
metrocellinc.com
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as i can see, most of us here went the G1 -> G2 -> Relay way.
unfortunatly i'm sitting here in germany where the Relay is not available. and all attempts importing one so far failed. amazon doesn't have it in stock, ebay sellers don't ship overseas etc.
Can anybody help me aquire such a phone? Either get me one and send it to me or point out a dealer that ships to germany?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you.
kilr00y said:
as i can see, most of us here went the G1 -> G2 -> Relay way.
unfortunatly i'm sitting here in germany where the Relay is not available. and all attempts importing one so far failed. amazon doesn't have it in stock, ebay sellers don't ship overseas etc.
Can anybody help me aquire such a phone? Either get me one and send it to me or point out a dealer that ships to germany?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thank you.
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you have 3 options
1) negri electronics (they are trustworthy, i got my doubleshot from them)
2) canada gsm (never tried, and you gotta mail them to sort out the international shipping stuff before you order)
3) ebay
of course, going with ebay is the less expensive but the most risky option. i got my relay from ebay, i had to camp ebay.com for a while and message all the people that had a good auction open (try to stay away from fishy stuff that may be stolen or just a scam) and ask if they would ship oversea.
most of them do not, but some do, it's just a matter of patience.
keep in mind that you will have to pay the duties for importing goods, and they will probably be quite hefty, hovering around ~100€ if you go with a shop like negri electronics
Braccoz said:
you have 3 options
1) negri electronics (they are trustworthy, i got my doubleshot from them)
2) canada gsm (never tried, and you gotta mail them to sort out the international shipping stuff before you order)
3) ebay
of course, going with ebay is the less expensive but the most risky option. i got my relay from ebay, i had to camp ebay.com for a while and message all the people that had a good auction open (try to stay away from fishy stuff that may be stolen or just a scam) and ask if they would ship oversea.
most of them do not, but some do, it's just a matter of patience.
keep in mind that you will have to pay the duties for importing goods, and they will probably be quite hefty, hovering around ~100€ if you go with a shop like negri electronics
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The main reason why ebay sellers don't ship overseas, is due to customs and shipping. USPS Express mail, is the only way you can ship internationally with tracking. But some countries simply won't allow those shipments.
And the hassle of dealing with problems if something goes wrong...
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thanks for the 2 shops. i will look into it
i do a lot of international trading via ebay, but rarely with the US. but do i get this straight: in a country as large as the United States there is just one carrier which offers sending insured parcels overseas??? hard to believe...
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gtmaster303 said:
The main reason why ebay sellers don't ship overseas, is due to customs and shipping. USPS Express mail, is the only way you can ship internationally with tracking. But some countries simply won't allow those shipments.
And the hassle of dealing with problems if something goes wrong...
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this is incorrect information.
first of all, customs duties will be paid by the buyer when he receives the package. the seller won't even know how much will be paid.
second, you can ship overseas with any major courier like FedEx (i recommend), UPS, DHL and of course USPS which will then be handled by your local postal service.
about stuff going wrong (in the shipment phase) there isn't much if you pay with paypal and make sure the shipping is made via a trustworthy courier with a tracking number.
of course after you have got the phone, you'd be on your own if it has some problems but if you do it right the shipment shouldn't be that much of an issue
negri was out of stock so i just placed an order with canadagsm. camping ebay didn't work for me since i've already tried that one for some weeks.
as the story continues, i will post updates as others might be faced with the same situation
kilr00y said:
negri was out of stock so i just placed an order with canadagsm. camping ebay didn't work for me since i've already tried that one for some weeks.
as the story continues, i will post updates as others might be faced with the same situation
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What about a service like SHIPITO?
I am from Czech Rep and have a luck that many of my colleagues are flying to US on regular basis but this service could be used just for this very special purpose.
@fantomex:
yeah.. i stumbled over services like that and i'm considering it.
about canadagsm: i wrote a couple of mails with them back and forth about shipping and conditions and after everything was sorted out i told them that i would like to order. no answer from them now for 2 days. seems like it's back to the drawing board. :-/
found an ebay-seller who's willing to ship to germany, but auction is still up for 3 days... and dunno how that will turn out.
anybody can suggest more online stores that will ship to germany? spend an hour or two torturing google and co but it's hard getting any results since search results are filtered by location. and i guess i cannot deny my german IP ^ ^
found a couple of phone stores but they were either out of stock of didn't have the Relay listed at all.
weird that canadagsm stopped responding. anyway negri has written on its site that it is on backorder, and that they usually ship backordered items within few work days (they probably will just buy a phone then unlock and ship it) so i think you can try and ask them.
if you wanna go the ebay way, make sure you buy a perfect (mint) condition phone, no bad imei, and that the seller will ship with tracking to you. (and, ofc, paypal payment)
yeah.. it's weird about canadagsm.. took them an hour to reply to the initial mail. but now: nothing. already re-sent the mail twice..
will contact negri when i get home since the phone on ebay dissapeared without a trace all of a sudden..
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Hi
Ebay india has a sevice called 'global easybuy'. One can buy anything from ebay usa (irrespective of the seller ships internationally or not) and ebay will deliver to your doorstep. Shipping, customs etc charges are included at the time of payment and are quite nominal. Look for 'global easy buy' on ebay germany. Hope they have this service.
negri said: "we don't know. check our website for updates"...
i have found some forwarding services, but i don't feel to comfortable with it. none of them i ever heard of. don't consider it to be too safe at all with another anonymous person in the middle.
i'm on an ebay auction again atm which will end tomorrow. maybe i get lucky.
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hint: *cough* jbidwatcher *cough*
I'll ship you one if you paypal me the funds and agree not to sue me if the post office loses it. PM me.
thanks for the offer, nardholio, but i've got lucky on ebay. cell was $305, shipping was $45 via usps... and other means of shipping were clearly un-affordable.
brand new and sealed... and locked ^ ^ but that should be the least problem
let's see what the custom fee will be...
5 days and it made it to san francisco so far.. i guess that's why they call it "snail mail" ^ ^
it's here up and running cm10.1
spent another 50eur on customs. but... worth it
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OX Mobile Spy
I personally still relatively tend to eBay shopping, everything went smoothly, you can try.
Hi, my cosuin bought a note 3 for me from dubai (UAE). He then went to pakistan for a wedding and took the note 3 with him as my brother was also going pakistan at the same time so he could give it to him. If my cousin were to post the note 3 from paistan bought from dubai via fedex then can customs charge me in UK as it is not a purchase from pakistan?
Thanks
??????
I don't think customs would care about 1 unit....
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You don't need to report anything. Whoever is bringing your Note 3 doesnt have to mention "his" note 3 at all.
And even if someone do an checking your brother will say it's his private device... If you want to be 100% sure remove the Note from the box put the battery, add to your pocket and that's it.
You will be charged VAT and import duty and if you try and scam it they will confiscate your phone.
Good luck
My question is that when you purchase something outside of eu then uk adds vat on delivery. But if someone sends you something via post (not a purchase) can the uk add vat on delivery?
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My question is that when you purchase something outside of eu then uk adds vat on delivery. But if someone sends you something via post (not a purchase) can the uk add vat on delivery?
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"Goods with a value exceeding £15, for commercial items including internet/mail order purchases, or £36 in the case of gifts between private individuals, are generally subject to Customs charges."
Have a look here for a bit more info. Hope this helps.
http://www.parcelforce.com/receiving-parcel/importing-uk/customs-charging
Tell him to take it out the box, and "Use" it, and just get him to send the empty box back. Customs are a bugger, I bought something then got a £130 Bill two weeks later.
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chrmit said:
"Goods with a value exceeding £15, for commercial items including internet/mail order purchases, or £36 in the case of gifts between private individuals, are generally subject to Customs charges."
Have a look here for a bit more info. Hope this helps.
http://www.parcelforce.com/receiving-parcel/importing-uk/customs-charging
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RavenY2K3 said:
Tell him to take it out the box, and "Use" it, and just get him to send the empty box back. Customs are a bugger, I bought something then got a £130 Bill two weeks later.
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What i mean is that if i ask him to post the phone unopened from Pakistan and because it is not a purchase from Pakistan then can customs still charge?
hayat55 said:
What i mean is that if i ask him to post the phone unopened from Pakistan and because it is not a purchase from Pakistan then can customs still charge?
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In the UK at least yes! That's why I said tell him to take it out of the box and make it look like it's his own personal phone, and just send t he empty box in the post.
My friend got hammered bringing an iPad into the UK and had to pay taxes, second time he brought another high value item back, he took it out the box, posted it to himself back home. This way it looks like he had the device before he left the country.
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hayat55 said:
What i mean is that if i ask him to post the phone unopened from Pakistan and because it is not a purchase from Pakistan then can customs still charge?
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As the goods are being sent from a country outside the EU then the answer is a straight yes. They can and will charge you the appropriate taxes. Some people would make a false claim on the paperwork stating the value as being lower and claiming the package contains something other that what is actually inside, but those people face the risk of being caught and fined or worse. On top of that, if the package got lost in transit there would be no hope of making a claim for compensation for the true value.
Just don't take the box, ship the box separately later on it he needs it and call it a day.
They can, and probably will, charge you. At 20%, there is too much cash there for them to waive it.
Here in Oz, anything under $1k is generally exempt, even for purchases. This probably saves a lot of work, but I'd also expect it to stop soon, especially if GST goes over 10% (I hope not).
I sent a laptop from my business address in Oz to my (same) business address in the UK. Customs tried to charge VAT @ 20%, even though it was obviously a used item, and actually several years old. It was cheaper to just ignore it and let FedEx ship it back, which is just stupid. Next time someone went to the UK, they took it as luggage instead.
I had the same issue sending 5 laptops (used for training) from the UK to Oz. Again, customs tried to charge, but I was able to prove that they were bought in Oz, and had GST fully paid. As far as I am aware, that is the only way to manage it.
So if you happened to have a UK receipt for that particular phone (and I'd never, ever suggest it might just be a receipt for any phone of the same model), you will probably be OK. Just tell them your cousin took it by mistake and is sending it back (a letter in the parcel could confirm this).
Hi guys !
I bought a Smartphone from an Online Shop in China...the price were awesome and I jump on the opportunity
However, for safety purposes (it is the first time that I payed so much from chines online shop), I payed for an transport insurance that will payback if the phone get lost in the "journey" from China to Europe.
By tracking system info, I know that the phone get to Spain, than Portugal (no customs system )...but it's been a while since the phone is stuck in Lisbon and, next week, the deadline for the reception of the good will come to an end....
Now, my question is:
If I activate the insurance from China, since the deadline is overdue and Lisbon won't answer my requests for more informations, and that, by some miracle, the phone finally get to my address (it happened for some goods in the past), will the phone works?
I don't know if the seller will blacklist the phone in China or in worldwide carriers....in fact, I don't even know if I will get a payback
Thanks for the help !!
Shurykan said:
Hi guys !
I bought a Smartphone from an Online Shop in China...the price were awesome and I jump on the opportunity
However, for safety purposes (it is the first time that I payed so much from chines online shop), I payed for an transport insurance that will payback if the phone get lost in the "journey" from China to Europe.
By tracking system info, I know that the phone get to Spain, than Portugal (no customs system )...but it's been a while since the phone is stuck in Lisbon and, next week, the deadline for the reception of the good will come to an end....
Now, my question is:
If I activate the insurance from China, since the deadline is overdue and Lisbon won't answer my requests for more informations, and that, by some miracle, the phone finally get to my address (it happened for some goods in the past), will the phone works?
I don't know if the seller will blacklist the phone in China or in worldwide carriers....in fact, I don't even know if I will get a payback
Thanks for the help !!
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Why would a seller blacklist a phone they are knowingly selling? Was it listed for sale as a black listed item?
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jr866gooner said:
Why would a seller blacklist a phone they are knowingly selling? Was it listed for sale as a black listed item?
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If the phone doesn't reach the client...it could mean 2 things, or it's lost or it was robbed by someone in the chain of transport...at least that's how I think.
Shurykan said:
If the phone doesn't reach the client...it could mean 2 things, or it's lost or it was robbed by someone in the chain of transport...at least that's how I think.
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So... No ones knows if a blacklisted phone in China will work in Europe?
Hi guys,
I recently got my friend in Zhuhai China to purchase this phone from the Xiaomi store there. She had tried every courier (DHL, EMS, China Post etc) but is unable to post this phone to me here in Australia. They are all saying that they are unable to because the phone has an embedded Lithium Ion battery. Can someone who has successfully imported this phone from China advise how this can be done?
Thanking you in advance for your assistance
The seller I bought from shipped mine to me using FedEx. I have returned a phone before using DHL though so im not sure why your friend wasn't allowed to ship it with them.
ajap88 said:
Hi guys,
I recently got my friend in Zhuhai China to purchase this phone from the Xiaomi store there. She had tried every courier (DHL, EMS, China Post etc) but is unable to post this phone to me here in Australia. They are all saying that they are unable to because the phone has an embedded Lithium Ion battery. Can someone who has successfully imported this phone from China advise how this can be done?
Thanking you in advance for your assistance
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DHL Battery Shipping Policy
DHL accepts Lithium Metal and Lithium-ion batteries and cells contained within mobile phones for shipping in its Domestic and International networks.
My Mix Fold 2 was shipped Hong Kong to Canada by DHL. On the Declaration Form which the shipper signed, the box "does the shipment contain hazardous goods" is ticked "no".
ajap88 said:
Hi guys,
I recently got my friend in Zhuhai China to purchase this phone from the Xiaomi store there. She had tried every courier (DHL, EMS, China Post etc) but is unable to post this phone to me here in Australia. They are all saying that they are unable to because the phone has an embedded Lithium Ion battery. Can someone who has successfully imported this phone from China advise how this can be done?
Thanking you in advance for your assistance
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yes, I had the same thing with the person that bought me the phone in China. They had to ship the phone to Hong Kong then a shipping service there ships it. That's the only option I was told
knives of ice said:
yes, I had the same thing with the person that bought me the phone in China. They had to ship the phone to Hong Kong then a shipping service there ships it. That's the only option I was told
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We tried sending to my sister in HK also but my friend said that the couriers were still saying the same have battery no send policy. Knives do you mind sharing your person's contact details so my friend can give him a call? PM me if you can. Cheers.