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2250mAh battery - not performing good!

I purchased a new 2250mAh extended battery recently from megacapacity.com.
In a full charge it gives me 18-20 hours backup with 1 hr talk time only. I don't even use Wi-Fi, GPRS. Just simple calls.
Is it normal? i dont think. Original battery 1050mAh gave better performance when it was in good condition. What could be the issue?
I have tried almost every ROM but its almost same in every case.
Anybody having 2250mAh battery? pl share your thoughts.
Is there some problem with device not charging optimally or battery is bad?

2250
I have a 2250 battery purchased from megacapacity itself. The first charge lasted for 50 hours. The battery at the time of recharge was around 20% but I recharged again. I am sure it would have gone for another 10 hours at least.
This is with moderate calls, browsing, solitaire, always on Microsoft Push mail and lot of email reading and writing. I was basically testing the battery backup; so kind of stressed my phone a bit to see the actual backup time available.
On a related note, I was definitely not happy with megacapacity as they didn't send me the correct battery cover for vox and never responded to any of my emails. So now my phone is without battery cover. And I am planning to buy one more normal sized battery because of this. Thanks to megacapacity.
Sankar
PS: - I am using fireburned 6.1 stable rom 1.4.

I am pretty happy with Polar CEll 1300 mAh battery. It gets me through the day with heavy use! It dies when I am IMing over Wifi for a couple of hours in the evening.

Is it device charging issue?
My device was also working good with original battery. I used it for approx 18 months. After that (couple of months back) it started giving problem shutting down device suddenly while in the call. Its calibration was totally disturbed, i happend due to high temperatures some time when in car, i think so.
In nutshell that battery was of no use to be thrown out. Then,
I bought 2250 mAh but its not giving expected performance, its lasts for max one day with normal use.
Could it be due to issues with device charging circuit? It gets charged fully in one hour. i suspect there might be some issue with device circuit.
or finally battery is not good?
Pl advise.

skchattha said:
My device was also working good with original battery. I used it for approx 18 months. After that (couple of months back) it started giving problem shutting down device suddenly while in the call. Its calibration was totally disturbed, i happend due to high temperatures some time when in car, i think so.
In nutshell that battery was of no use to be thrown out. Then,
I bought 2250 mAh but its not giving expected performance, its lasts for max one day with normal use.
Could it be due to issues with device charging circuit? It gets charged fully in one hour. i suspect there might be some issue with device circuit.
or finally battery is not good?
Pl advise.
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parthabhatta & h4waii,
You both have good experince with VOX battery, pl share your thoughts on this.

Hi,
Actually I use a battery bought from megacapacity but its 1100mAh. The battery is not giving me any problems and after a few calls, roughly one hour surfing and some music playing 20-30% battery is still left. So what I feel is being 2250mAh it should last atleast 80% more than 1100 mAh if not double. You can check the Power management battery bar while charging - whether it shoots up occassionally at random or gradually increases with increments of 1% till it attains 100%. If it shoots up, try with USB charging and see if the problem recurs. Give it a try and let us know.

Just be careful of using BIG battery.

parthabhatta said:
Hi,
Actually I use a battery bought from megacapacity but its 1100mAh. The battery is not giving me any problems and after a few calls, roughly one hour surfing and some music playing 20-30% battery is still left. So what I feel is being 2250mAh it should last atleast 80% more than 1100 mAh if not double. You can check the Power management battery bar while charging - whether it shoots up occassionally at random or gradually increases with increments of 1% till it attains 100%. If it shoots up, try with USB charging and see if the problem recurs. Give it a try and let us know.
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Thats a good idea, sure i will check and let you know.

I charged my 2250mAH in an external charger, which removes any possibility of the device shutting off charge after it reaches a certain voltage. It allows the battery to make that choice. I had good use with it, very heavy usage and it would last drastically longer than the OEM 1100mAH unit. I'd recommend just buying a 1300mAH as the 2250 is very cumbersome to carry around on the device.
Again, I still have mine - if anybody wants to buy them.
There are a few issues with keeping the sheet in contact with the pins, else it will shut off randomly, I padded it with paper and pulled the pins out a bit.

i got mine a year ago from ebaystore dmc-batteries.
first i also got the wrong backcover, but they sent me very fast the correct one.
The battery is definitely not twice as strong as the original one.
At normal use I think the max is 1,5 day. Light use gives me 2 days but heavy use with bluetooth or wifi or gprs only 1 day.
as h4waii I had in the beginning some problems with the contacts and sudden loss of power because of that, but that disappeared with time

Still I can't make a point...I'cant determine were is good to buy (obviously referring xda user's opinion to how much the battery lasts) and where is better not to buy. LoL

TheBo said:
Still I can't make a point...I'cant determine were is good to buy (obviously referring xda user's opinion to how much the battery lasts) and where is better not to buy. LoL
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dmc-batteries gave me good service and are quick and friendy in their replies. I recommend them.

Thank you birdibird , but my intention was a survey to know what brand (seller) of ezxtended battery lasts more than an other. Just that
Because I've read of battery lasting 4-5 days with normal usage and others not lasting more than 1!

Charge and Discharge Cycles

How many charge/discharge cycles should I expect to get from my S6?
I got the phone in April, and since then I have used it for both business and private use.
I charge it overnight wirelessly, take it to work fully charged, then discharge and recharge it twice whilst at work (using the Samsung charger that came with it), then put it on charge for a 3rd time when I get home ready for the next day.
Fast forward 9 months and already I am seeing reduced battery life... Is this to be expected from 3 charge/discharge cycles per day, 6 days a week?
I've never seen this as a problem until now, as all my phones have either had removable batteries, or were only on 12 month contracts and were replaced before the battery became too worn.
Is it worth trying to get a battery replacement under the 12 month warranty before it runs out?

Big_Rich_1983 said:
Fast forward 9 months and already I am seeing reduced battery life...
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please clarify what you mean by "reduced battery life". Any phone will suffer reduced battery life to some degree after 9 months.
How low do you let the battery go before charging? Some say it's not good to constantly recharge when the battery is not low (above 50%)? Others say that doesn't apply to newer phones with better battery tech. I don't know.

HKSpeed said:
please clarify what you mean by "reduced battery life". Any phone will suffer reduced battery life to some degree after 9 months.
How low do you let the battery go before charging? Some say it's not good to constantly recharge when the battery is not low (above 50%)? Others say that doesn't apply to newer phones with better battery tech. I don't know.
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I generally run it down to 15% when the battery warning comes on... Very rarely to 5% when the critical warning comes on.
When I take it off charge, after about half an hour of screen time, it's down to 80-85 already, then I can get about another 2 hours of heavy use and constant screen time before it's dead again.

Big_Rich_1983 said:
How many charge/discharge cycles should I expect to get from my S6?
I got the phone in April, and since then I have used it for both business and private use.
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Read somewhere reliable some time back that it's somewhere between 500-600 cycles before you see any degradation.. And I think there's something in the warranty which covers reduced battery life within 1st year provided you can prove it which basically means very rare!

New battery health

I’m curious about battery health as reported by Accubattery (I can’t find the battery health stat in the phone itself). I’ve had the 4a 5-6 days and the health is at 97% (3048/3140). Is that normal?
I had some issues with battery drain at first, getting around 4.5 hours (a few people here pointed out it’s likely due to it not being on wifi). But I did a factory reset and it seems to be doing better (now I’m on track for ~6).
I‘ve read battery health numbers aren’t super accurate so I imagine some fluctuation is normal. Just trying to verify whether I’ve lost 3% battery life in a week. Thanks!

I bought it a month ago. Holds at 104% for 3 weeks, and recently dropped sharply to 99%. I think you shouldn't believe the program

Li's like being use in their mid range; short midrange cycles/more frequent partial charges.
High cell voltage and high temperatures cause premature wear. Accubattery is encouraging this partial charge strategy although it's not necessary accurate.
Don't charge your battery to 100% very often.
80% is better, 64-70% is best.
Don't discharge past 20%, a low limit of 30-40% is best.
Never charge if battery is below 40F.
Avoid starting a charge if battery is below 72F whenever possible.
Low temp charging can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Avoid charging over 100F.
75-90F is best
Fast charging causes no harm.

cool thanks. accubattery went from 97% to 98% a few days later so I don't think it's super accurate. I've never had it say 100% on this new battery though so I'm worried it's a bit low but oh well. Thanks all.

suda space said:
cool thanks. accubattery went from 97% to 98% a few days later so I don't think it's super accurate. I've never had it say 100% on this new battery though so I'm worried it's a bit low but oh well. Thanks all.
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First you need to set whatever is the actual capacity of the battery. Accubattery will use the capacity that the Android is reporting, typically 4170 for a 4300 ma battery in the Note 10+ case.
It's wrong; but Android is the culprit in this case.
Accubattery is a very useful apk. It adjustable alert when charged to X% is great. It also logs net power charging/discharging. I use it for battery temp too.
People expect too much out of it.
I doubt it's low, in fact it may well have a slightly higher than rated capacity. Take care of it and you can milk years out of it. Frequent midrange charges, and watch the heat.
If the phone battery temp when using gets into the high 90's, cool it down. I use a damp microfiber cloth or rag.
At a battery temp of 102F I screen off the device.

blackhawk said:
Li's like being use in their mid range; short midrange cycles/more frequent partial charges.
High cell voltage and high temperatures cause premature wear. Accubattery is encouraging this partial charge strategy although it's not necessary accurate.
Don't charge your battery to 100% very often.
80% is better, 64-70% is best.
Don't discharge past 20%, a low limit of 30-40% is best.
Never charge if battery is below 40F.
Avoid starting a charge if battery is below 72F whenever possible.
Low temp charging can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Avoid charging over 100F.
75-90F is best
Fast charging causes no harm.
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Info is misleading, outdated (overlooks recent battery refinements) and originally based on much larger packs used in laptops, etc. Mobile devices discharge frequently, rarely spending significant time at high charge levels. Laptops are often tethered to a desk and charger for extended periods.
While there's nothing amiss with avoiding extremes one should not feel compelled to carry around a damp microfiber cloth (lol) to cool the phone when it reaches body temp. Yep, battery capacity may drop 10% over the life of the device by not getting panties in a knot over thermals. It's just a phone ...

DB126 said:
Info is misleading, outdated (overlooks recent battery refinements) and originally based on much larger packs used in laptops, etc. Mobile devices discharge frequently, rarely spending significant time at high charge levels. Laptops are often tethered to a desk and charger for extended periods.
While there's nothing amiss with avoiding extremes one should not feel compelled to carry around a damp microfiber cloth (lol) to cool the phone when it reaches body temp. Yep, battery capacity may drop 10% over the life of the device by not getting panties in a knot over thermals. It's just a phone ...
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This has nothing to do with laptops although on my e6400 you can software disable battery charging at will.
The Li battery weakness is it's user. Any time it's taken to a full charge you are doing substantially more damage than a 64% top off. One full charge cycle vs >1/20% a full charge cycle.
That's a lot of lost life.
You'll get about 2 years out of it or less with your plan if you're a heavy user.
Rather inept management when you could get years more...

blackhawk said:
This has nothing to do with laptops although on my e6400 you can software disable battery charging at will.
The Li battery weakness is it's user. Any time it's taken to a full charge you are doing substantially more damage than a 64% top off. One full charge cycle vs >1/20% a full charge cycle.
That's a lot of lost life.
You'll get about 2 years out of it or less with your plan if you're a heavy user.
Rather inept management when you could get years more...
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We'll agree to disagree on the applicability and merits of aggressive battery management on modern mobile devices. I am quite familiar with the arguments but have no stomach to rehash the details (which matter). Best wishes, mate.

DB126 said:
We'll agree to disagree on the applicability and merits of aggressive battery management on modern mobile devices. I am quite familiar with the arguments but have no stomach to rehash the details (which matter). Best wishes, mate.
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Fair enough... the devil is in the details.
I'll see how my 10+ does. Lol I may end up tearing it down to replace the bloody charging port before the battery needs replacement
A battery replacement isn't the end of the world.
Cheers, mate.

Hi
I bought my phone 4 weeks ago . I am currently using Realme 8 pro.
In accubattery it shows i have 89% battery health. Is accubattery accurate?
It makes me concern why my battery sustaining so fast .

blackhawk said:
Fair enough... the devil is in the details.
I'll see how my 10+ does. Lol I may end up tearing it down to replace the bloody charging port before the battery needs replacement
A battery replacement isn't the end of the world.
Cheers, mate.
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Hi
I bought my phone 4 weeks ago . I am currently using Realme 8 pro.
In accubattery it shows i have 89% battery health. Is accubattery accurate?
It makes me concern why my battery sustaining so fast .

Mi Nabil said:
Hi
I bought my phone 4 weeks ago . I am currently using Realme 8 pro.
In accubattery it shows i have 89% battery health. Is accubattery accurate?
It makes me concern why my battery sustaining so fast .
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Not really. The value it uses is from the Android OS its self which is inaccurate and constant.
In my case it is 4100 mAh.
On my original 4300 mAh battery it was off by 200 mAh, on the replacement 300. Assuming the battery was as speced. It could have even been over the speced value.
Depending on the battery temperature and the charge range Accubatter's estimate can vary by 200 even 300 mAh.
Set it so it will read 100% by entering the value Accubattery thinks it sees when the battery is fully charged. It makes it easier and less dissettling to track
In the course of the battery's life you'll probably end up reloading and losing the data but for short term monitoring it's very useful.
It's logging history is great for quickly spotting excessive battery usage or slow charging. With those considerations in mind it's a useful tool that doesn't consume very battery it's self.
After the Pro version is active I firewall* block it as it is constantly in internet contact otherwise... I don't need that. If you disable Playstore or Google play Services it will revert back to the free version unless firewall blocked I disable the former two most of the time so there's that.
That's my biggest complaint about it.
*Karma Firewall, a great freeware apk that uses almost no battery

Sir in my case it showed accurate capacity of my battery.
When charged my phone first my phone had 99% battery health.
But 4 weeks later it says something 89 percent.
I don't know about battery science. But can you tell me in short is it okay? . Or i should go to coutomer care?

Mi Nabil said:
Sir in my case it showed accurate capacity of my battery.
When charged my phone first my phone had 99% battery health.
But 4 weeks later it says something 89 percent.
I don't know about battery science. But can you tell me in short is it okay? . Or i should go to coutomer care?
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Really I doubt they would accept Accubattery's data.
When your SOT drops significantly and it's not because of excessive battery usage by apk(s), then you know you have a problem.
Heavily used phones will get about 1-2 years of usable battery life. I'll probably replace mine again at the 1 year mark.
If you want it to last longer only charge to 80-90%
Don't discharge below 30%
Li's like frequently midrange charge/discharge cycles. Frequent midrange partial charges prolong their life a lot.
Never charge if below 40°F
Do not charge below 72°F, 85-95F is the optimum start charge temperature.
Do not allow battery temperature to exceed 100F when charging, cool as needed.

blackhawk said:
Really I doubt they would accept Accubattery's data.
When your SOT drops significantly and it's not because of excessive battery usage by apk(s), then you know you have a problem.
Heavily used phones will get about 1-2 years of usable battery life. I'll probably replace mine again at the 1 year mark.
If you want it to last longer only charge to 80-90%
Don't discharge below 30%
Li's like frequently midrange charge/discharge cycles. Frequent midrange partial charges prolong their life a lot.
Never charge if below 40°F
Do not charge below 72°F, 85-95F is the optimum start charge temperature.
Do not allow battery temperature to exceed 100F when charging, cool as needed.
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One more question sir.
What is better for battery health charging 20 to 100% once or charging 20 to 80% twice in a day.

blackhawk said:
Really I doubt they would accept Accubattery's data.
When your SOT drops significantly and it's not because of excessive battery usage by apk(s), then you know you have a problem.
Heavily used phones will get about 1-2 years of usable battery life. I'll probably replace mine again at the 1 year mark.
If you want it to last longer only charge to 80-90%
Don't discharge below 30%
Li's like frequently midrange charge/discharge cycles. Frequent midrange partial charges prolong their life a lot.
Never charge if below 40°F
Do not charge below 72°F, 85-95F is the optimum start charge temperature.
Do not allow battery temperature to exceed 100F when charging, cool as needed.
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Sir can you please answer my last question?
That i have qutioned you in previous reply

Fast battery drain from an year old device. Is there any way to slow charging speed?

So my 4a has been having fast battery drain since few months now. I remember it having very good battery life initially. However now it drains battery very fast.
This is also surprising since I keep brightness low due to me being sensitive to it.. and also keep the phone charged upto 80% capacity only as I read that it prolongs battery life.
One thing I could note is that the phone drains slower in the 80 - 100 % range if the phone gets fully charged occasionally.
Hence I have been suspecting the 'rapid' charging which is enabled by default on stock charger to be one cause.
Is there some way to enable slower charging like what happens in case of 'Adaptive charging' post 80% capacity? I hope that will lead to lesser wearing down of battery.

Don't use a compatible cable/charger and it'll change slowly. I don't think any PC I've connected to can do rapid charging, for example, and the cheap USB chargers I have definitely can't do it, only the one that came with the phone can do it.

purezen said:
So my 4a has been having fast battery drain since few months now. I remember it having very good battery life initially. However now it drains battery very fast.
This is also surprising since I keep brightness low due to me being sensitive to it.. and also keep the phone charged upto 80% capacity only as I read that it prolongs battery life.
One thing I could note is that the phone drains slower in the 80 - 100 % range if the phone gets fully charged occasionally.
Hence I have been suspecting the 'rapid' charging which is enabled by default on stock charger to be one cause.
Is there some way to enable slower charging like what happens in case of 'Adaptive charging' post 80% capacity? I hope that will lead to lesser wearing down of battery.
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It's more likely an app that drain your battery in background than your battery dying already. Quick charge and adaptive charge are made to not harm the battery.
Are you rooted? If yes, install Franco kernel manager app from playstore.
In first page you'll see your battery life estimation (from system) and clicking on live monitor go-to the processes tab.
Just like top cmd on Linux you'll see which process is active and how much cpu it use
For me as an exemple i realized that when I'm using YouTube music. The AdAway app goes crazy and drain my battery. And its something that's not shown on settings/battety tab.

Fast charging stresses the battery more than slow charging. That said I almost always fast charge. I expect 1-2 years of battery life on my N10+'s though.
Charging past 80% or discharging below 30% stresses the battery; Li's like frequent midrange power cycling.
Don't start charging below 72F, 82F or higher is best. High temp cut off is about 102F.
Never attempt to charge a battery colder than 40F!!!
Erratic fast charging is a sign of battery failure.
A rapid decline in capacity is another sign of a battery failure.
Any rear cover bulging ie battery swelling is a failure, replace asap.
Once a battery is below 80% of it's original capacity it's degraded and has reached the end of its service life, replace it.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can easily destroy the phone.
If the phone is used heavily or is 2-3 years old, probably time to replace the battery. Just do it.
On most phones the cost is low.

a1291762 said:
Don't use a compatible cable/charger and it'll change slowly. I don't think any PC I've connected to can do rapid charging, for example, and the cheap USB chargers I have definitely can't do it, only the one that came with the phone can do it.
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Mine does rapid one only Thankfully connecting a usb to a socket board does non-rapid

Dead-neM said:
It's more likely an app that drain your battery in background than your battery dying already. Quick charge and adaptive charge are made to not harm the battery.
Are you rooted? If yes, install Franco kernel manager app from playstore.
In first page you'll see your battery life estimation (from system) and clicking on live monitor go-to the processes tab.
Just like top cmd on Linux you'll see which process is active and how much cpu it use
For me as an exemple i realized that when I'm using YouTube music. The AdAway app goes crazy and drain my battery. And its something that's not shown on settings/battety tab.
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Thanks for the response
Frankly don't have that much usage of my phone. Will give sometime to observing with non rapid charging. Will give this a try if that still persists.

blackhawk said:
Fast charging stresses the battery more than slow charging. That said I almost always fast charge. I expect 1-2 years of battery life on my N10+'s though.
Charging past 80% or discharging below 30% stresses the battery; Li's like frequent midrange power cycling.
Don't start charging below 72F, 82F or higher is best. High temp cut off is about 102F.
Never attempt to charge a battery colder than 40F!!!
Erratic fast charging is a sign of battery failure.
A rapid decline in capacity is another sign of a battery failure.
Any rear cover bulging ie battery swelling is a failure, replace asap.
Once a battery is below 80% of it's original capacity it's degraded and has reached the end of its service life, replace it.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can easily destroy the phone.
If the phone is used heavily or is 2-3 years old, probably time to replace the battery. Just do it.
On most phones the cost is low.
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Thanks for the response. That was insightful

UPDATE:
Started slow-er charging since few days now.. and I really feel that the battery performance has considerably improved
Also update to Android 12 since few days as well so not sure if that has a role to play though I don't think so

purezen said:
UPDATE:
Started slow-er charging since few days now.. and I really feel that the battery performance has considerably improved
Also update to Android 12 since few days as well so not sure if that has a role to play though I don't think so
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If it seems to work better... I don't see any difference on my N10+'s though. Run times are the same slow/fast charging.
Keep a close eye on it as erratic fast charging is a sign of battery failure... I have seen that

Question 85% VS 100% - and why?

I have always charged my phones to 100%, this 85% thing is very new to me.
I've never heard about it before until I saw it in my S22 ULTRA.
What are the benefits of charging only to 85%? Does it last as much as with 100%?
Does it really recommended to charge it up to 85%? Im not an heavy user, but also I'm not changing my phone once a year, I'm changing it one time in 3-4 years.
Also, I tried to never charge my phone at night, and trying to catch the battery not lower than 10-15 percent to charge.
So basically, it bothers me a little bit in the eye to see that the phone is only about 85%, because that way basically the battery will run out much faster(significantly, yesterday 10% went down in 45 minutes, which means I'll lose 45 minutes from battery usage for nothing).
So, my question is, is it really worth it? Is there a significant difference between the two options? I'd love your help, thank you all!

The 85% is to protect and prolong the battery life. I agree that you will loose 15% of battery time if not charging to 100%. I charge to 100% and when battery is 10 - 15 I charge to full. I guess on the long run it's better for the battery to only charge to 85%, but I change phones every year or 2, so I'm not to worried about prolonging the battery life

Set low limit at 30-40%
Top limit of 72-85% is better.
Li's love frequent midrange power cycling.
Start charge temperature is important to prevent Li plating. Battery should be at least at 72F, 82-90F is better. Cool if charging temperature goes above 99F. Never charge in direct sunlight.
Never attempt to charge at 40F or lower
Avoid having the screen on while changing.
When using, turn phone off if battery temperature reaches 100F or cool it.
Replacing the battery isn't a big deal unless you don't do it on a timely basis. When an Li has reached 80% of it's original capacity it's reached the end of it's useful service life and is degraded.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can heavily damage the phone. Any swelling is a failure replace immediately.
High voltage , temperature and current drain stress the battery. Other than avoiding low temperature charging and going to either low/high extreme voltage ranges constantly I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I now replace my heavily used Note 10+ battery every year or so to avoid another failure, routine maintenance. Batteries are cheap and relatively easy to replace.

blackhawk said:
Set low limit at 30-40%
Top limit of 72-85% is better.
Li's love frequent midrange power cycling.
Start charge temperature is important to prevent Li plating. Battery should be at least at 72F, 82-90F is better. Cool if charging temperature goes above 99F. Never charge in direct sunlight.
Never attempt to charge at 40F or lower
Avoid having the screen on while changing.
When using, turn phone off if battery temperature reaches 100F or cool it.
Replacing the battery isn't a big deal unless you don't do it on a timely basis. When an Li has reached 80% of it's original capacity it's reached the end of it's useful service life and is degraded.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can heavily damage the phone. Any swelling is a failure replace immediately.
High voltage , temperature and current drain stress the battery. Other than avoiding low temperature charging and going to either low/high extreme voltage ranges constantly I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I now replace my heavily used Note 10+ battery every year or so to avoid another failure, routine maintenance. Batteries are cheap and relatively easy to replace.
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So, I understand that it recommended to charge up to 85%? :-D
I searched on google to buy a S22 ultra battery that will keep in home until I need it, but couldn't find one.

maor23 said:
I have always charged my phones to 100%, this 85% thing is very new to me.
I've never heard about it before until I saw it in my S22 ULTRA.
What are the benefits of charging only to 85%? Does it last as much as with 100%?
Does it really recommended to charge it up to 85%? Im not an heavy user, but also I'm not changing my phone once a year, I'm changing it one time in 3-4 years.
Also, I tried to never charge my phone at night, and trying to catch the battery not lower than 10-15 percent to charge.
So basically, it bothers me a little bit in the eye to see that the phone is only about 85%, because that way basically the battery will run out much faster(significantly, yesterday 10% went down in 45 minutes, which means I'll lose 45 minutes from battery usage for nothing).
So, my question is, is it really worth it? Is there a significant difference between the two options? I'd love your help, thank you all!
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If you can last to bedtime on an 85% charge then fine use that setting if you intend to keep the device for 3 years or longer.
If (like me) you need 100% charge to get through the day, continue charging to 100% and dont worry.
I have been using mobile phones for 25 years and I charge overnight as I sleep. I have NEVER had a battery failure or problems.
Life is short, enjoy your new phone
P.S. If you are worried about stressing the battery by charging to 100%, I suggest you also disable Fast-Charging as that is WORSE for a battery cell than 100% vs 85% iMHO.

I used to charge my Note 10+ to 100%, every day plug it while in my car or plug it to my laptop now and then. After 2 years of use battery health was 89%.
On my Lenovo laptop I stop charging at 60% as suggested by Lenovo vantage. Bull****. Battery lasts a lot less after one year. Almost the half.
Enjoy your gadgets and mobiles. Anyway after 2 years most of us get a new one.

blackhawk said:
Set low limit at 30-40%
Top limit of 72-85% is better.
Li's love frequent midrange power cycling.
Start charge temperature is important to prevent Li plating. Battery should be at least at 72F, 82-90F is better. Cool if charging temperature goes above 99F. Never charge in direct sunlight.
Never attempt to charge at 40F or lower
Avoid having the screen on while changing.
When using, turn phone off if battery temperature reaches 100F or cool it.
Replacing the battery isn't a big deal unless you don't do it on a timely basis. When an Li has reached 80% of it's original capacity it's reached the end of it's useful service life and is degraded.
Degraded Li's are more likely to fail which can heavily damage the phone. Any swelling is a failure replace immediately.
High voltage , temperature and current drain stress the battery. Other than avoiding low temperature charging and going to either low/high extreme voltage ranges constantly I wouldn't worry about it too much.
I now replace my heavily used Note 10+ battery every year or so to avoid another failure, routine maintenance. Batteries are cheap and relatively easy to replace.
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how does one set low limit?
i have a smart plug i use for my charger, only on long enough to charge phone from 20% to 85% (battery setting limit enabled).
i usually charge at 30% to 85%.

Slade8525 said:
how does one set low limit?
i have a smart plug i use for my charger, only on long enough to charge phone from 20% to 85% (battery setting limit enabled).
i usually charge at 30% to 85%.
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I just do it by eye. It's not rocket science.
Accubattery lets you set an alarm if you want.

maor23 said:
So, I understand that it recommended to charge up to 85%? :-D
I searched on google to buy a S22 ultra battery that will keep in home until I need it, but couldn't find one.
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Keeping a spare isn't a good plan as Li's start to degrade as soon as assembled. So after a year or more of sitting there it will have lost some of its initial capacity.
They should became easier in the future.

Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using

For anybody wanting to change the limit from 85% to lets say 90%, you can use the App called Galaxy Max Hz, you can find it on this forum : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ods-qs-tiles-tasker-support-and-more.4404929/
One of the options is to change the battery charge limit, on the lock screen it will still say : "Charging stopped at 85%" even though the battery is at 90% as set in Galaxy Max Hz

coolpixs4 said:
Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using
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85% is actually rather on the high side. Either correct the excessive battery drain or replace the battery. When an Li reaches 80% of its original capacity it's reached the end of its usable service life. It's degraded at that point. Degraded Li's are much more likely to fail. Any battery swelling is a failure.

My device does not have 'protect battery' toogle on quick settings
SS22+ OneUI4.1

coolpixs4 said:
Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using
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bixby probably

Actually, the protection level should be 80% or less to maximize the battery’s useful life.

malikin said:
bixby probably
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coolpixs4 said:
Any solution to modify the protect level?
"protect battery level 90%, 95% mod instead of 85%"
85% seem to be very short time of using
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verszipo said:
For anybody wanting to change the limit from 85% to lets say 90%, you can use the App called Galaxy Max Hz, you can find it on this forum : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ods-qs-tiles-tasker-support-and-more.4404929/
One of the options is to change the battery charge limit, on the lock screen it will still say : "Charging stopped at 85%" even though the battery is at 90% as set in Galaxy Max Hz
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freco said:
I used to charge my Note 10+ to 100%, every day plug it while in my car or plug it to my laptop now and then. After 2 years of use battery health was 89%.
On my Lenovo laptop I stop charging at 60% as suggested by Lenovo vantage. Bull****. Battery lasts a lot less after one year. Almost the half.
Enjoy your gadgets and mobiles. Anyway after 2 years most of us get a new one.
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I use the 60% protection on my Lenovo as they suggested and gess what, after 8 years my battery still works fine, and lasts for 2h/3h. I used my laptop every workday on heavy use, and it's the most cheap line, it cost me 300€ in 2015 (Lenovo G50-30 Celeron N2840). It's all day pluged, but when i need to use on battery it's fine!
So i realy think this battery protection works, and my S22 Ultra it's for last at least 5 years, and the 85% it's enough to run my workday.

burnin said:
I use the 60% protection on my Lenovo as they suggested and gess what, after 8 years my battery still works fine, and lasts for 2h/3h. I used my laptop every workday on heavy use, and it's the most cheap line, it cost me 300€ in 2015 (Lenovo G50-30 Celeron N2840). It's all day pluged, but when i need to use on battery it's fine!
So i realy think this battery protection works, and my S22 Ultra it's for last at least 5 years, and the 85% it's enough to run my workday.
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Maybe. Depends on usage. On my N10+ which is heavily used with frequent charge cycling from 40-60% to 72 to 85% most times I get about 2 years out of a battery. Higher battery temperature shortens the lifespan as well. Fast charging is more stressful as is using the device right after a fast charge. High current drain while in use is also stressful; optimize the device to increase SOT and battery lifespan.
Frequent partial charge power cycling can extent the typical 200 full charge cycles to 800 or more. A partial charge is not a full charge cycle.
Start charge temperature matters.
It's an electrochemical reaction, heat is required for it to charge properly!
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Never attempt to charge if near freezing
Fast charging will not engage if battery temperature is below about 55F to protect the battery.
Charging below 72F or above 103F can cause Li plating which will permanently degrade the cell.
Optimum start temperature is 82-90F, cutoff is 100-102F max. Cool if needed.
Regardless of service time replace the Li when it reaches 80% of its original capacity. At 80% it's reached the end of its service life and is considered degraded. Degraded Li's are more likely to fail
Any swelling is a failure and it can destroy the device. Battery replacement isn't hard or expensive. Just part of routine maintenance...

maor23 said:
I have always charged my phones to 100%, this 85% thing is very new to me.
I've never heard about it before until I saw it in my S22 ULTRA.
What are the benefits of charging only to 85%? Does it last as much as with 100%?
Does it really recommended to charge it up to 85%? Im not an heavy user, but also I'm not changing my phone once a year, I'm changing it one time in 3-4 years.
Also, I tried to never charge my phone at night, and trying to catch the battery not lower than 10-15 percent to charge.
So basically, it bothers me a little bit in the eye to see that the phone is only about 85%, because that way basically the battery will run out much faster(significantly, yesterday 10% went down in 45 minutes, which means I'll lose 45 minutes from battery usage for nothing).
So, my question is, is it really worth it? Is there a significant difference between the two options? I'd love your help, thank you all!
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Here is a good article why it's recommended to not load the batt to 100%
How to maximize battery life: Charging habits and other tips
If you've ever wondered what the best way to charge your battery is, here are some scientifically proven tips for maximizing battery life.
www.androidauthority.com
Personally i just keep the load between 65% and around 20-30%. Only if i know that i will leave the house longer than 4 hours I do a 85% load or 100% if i want to film and take photos. But this rarely happens.