2250mAh battery - not performing good! - HTC Vox

I purchased a new 2250mAh extended battery recently from megacapacity.com.
In a full charge it gives me 18-20 hours backup with 1 hr talk time only. I don't even use Wi-Fi, GPRS. Just simple calls.
Is it normal? i dont think. Original battery 1050mAh gave better performance when it was in good condition. What could be the issue?
I have tried almost every ROM but its almost same in every case.
Anybody having 2250mAh battery? pl share your thoughts.
Is there some problem with device not charging optimally or battery is bad?

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I have a 2250 battery purchased from megacapacity itself. The first charge lasted for 50 hours. The battery at the time of recharge was around 20% but I recharged again. I am sure it would have gone for another 10 hours at least.
This is with moderate calls, browsing, solitaire, always on Microsoft Push mail and lot of email reading and writing. I was basically testing the battery backup; so kind of stressed my phone a bit to see the actual backup time available.
On a related note, I was definitely not happy with megacapacity as they didn't send me the correct battery cover for vox and never responded to any of my emails. So now my phone is without battery cover. And I am planning to buy one more normal sized battery because of this. Thanks to megacapacity.
Sankar
PS: - I am using fireburned 6.1 stable rom 1.4.

I am pretty happy with Polar CEll 1300 mAh battery. It gets me through the day with heavy use! It dies when I am IMing over Wifi for a couple of hours in the evening.

Is it device charging issue?
My device was also working good with original battery. I used it for approx 18 months. After that (couple of months back) it started giving problem shutting down device suddenly while in the call. Its calibration was totally disturbed, i happend due to high temperatures some time when in car, i think so.
In nutshell that battery was of no use to be thrown out. Then,
I bought 2250 mAh but its not giving expected performance, its lasts for max one day with normal use.
Could it be due to issues with device charging circuit? It gets charged fully in one hour. i suspect there might be some issue with device circuit.
or finally battery is not good?
Pl advise.

skchattha said:
My device was also working good with original battery. I used it for approx 18 months. After that (couple of months back) it started giving problem shutting down device suddenly while in the call. Its calibration was totally disturbed, i happend due to high temperatures some time when in car, i think so.
In nutshell that battery was of no use to be thrown out. Then,
I bought 2250 mAh but its not giving expected performance, its lasts for max one day with normal use.
Could it be due to issues with device charging circuit? It gets charged fully in one hour. i suspect there might be some issue with device circuit.
or finally battery is not good?
Pl advise.
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parthabhatta & h4waii,
You both have good experince with VOX battery, pl share your thoughts on this.

Hi,
Actually I use a battery bought from megacapacity but its 1100mAh. The battery is not giving me any problems and after a few calls, roughly one hour surfing and some music playing 20-30% battery is still left. So what I feel is being 2250mAh it should last atleast 80% more than 1100 mAh if not double. You can check the Power management battery bar while charging - whether it shoots up occassionally at random or gradually increases with increments of 1% till it attains 100%. If it shoots up, try with USB charging and see if the problem recurs. Give it a try and let us know.

Just be careful of using BIG battery.

parthabhatta said:
Hi,
Actually I use a battery bought from megacapacity but its 1100mAh. The battery is not giving me any problems and after a few calls, roughly one hour surfing and some music playing 20-30% battery is still left. So what I feel is being 2250mAh it should last atleast 80% more than 1100 mAh if not double. You can check the Power management battery bar while charging - whether it shoots up occassionally at random or gradually increases with increments of 1% till it attains 100%. If it shoots up, try with USB charging and see if the problem recurs. Give it a try and let us know.
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Thats a good idea, sure i will check and let you know.

I charged my 2250mAH in an external charger, which removes any possibility of the device shutting off charge after it reaches a certain voltage. It allows the battery to make that choice. I had good use with it, very heavy usage and it would last drastically longer than the OEM 1100mAH unit. I'd recommend just buying a 1300mAH as the 2250 is very cumbersome to carry around on the device.
Again, I still have mine - if anybody wants to buy them.
There are a few issues with keeping the sheet in contact with the pins, else it will shut off randomly, I padded it with paper and pulled the pins out a bit.

i got mine a year ago from ebaystore dmc-batteries.
first i also got the wrong backcover, but they sent me very fast the correct one.
The battery is definitely not twice as strong as the original one.
At normal use I think the max is 1,5 day. Light use gives me 2 days but heavy use with bluetooth or wifi or gprs only 1 day.
as h4waii I had in the beginning some problems with the contacts and sudden loss of power because of that, but that disappeared with time

Still I can't make a point...I'cant determine were is good to buy (obviously referring xda user's opinion to how much the battery lasts) and where is better not to buy. LoL

TheBo said:
Still I can't make a point...I'cant determine were is good to buy (obviously referring xda user's opinion to how much the battery lasts) and where is better not to buy. LoL
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dmc-batteries gave me good service and are quick and friendy in their replies. I recommend them.

Thank you birdibird , but my intention was a survey to know what brand (seller) of ezxtended battery lasts more than an other. Just that
Because I've read of battery lasting 4-5 days with normal usage and others not lasting more than 1!

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Battery settings,

Can someone help me out here this is for an Orbit 2 less than 1 week old. I charged the device this morning so by 09:00 it was on full power. By 14:00 its down to 75%. Usage below:
10 minutes phone calls
I have my email set to retrieve from Yahoo every 15 minutes
On battery the screen is set to 50% - 75% brightness
Co-pilot has live function and traffic updates, but I presume that is only when its actually turned on and running Co-Pilot
What is going wrong?
Firstly, did you give it 3 charges of 16 hours plus? I didn't, and don't have as good a battery life of some others that did.
Also, have you got Windows Live connected and checking your hotmail constantly? That killed my battery.
Finally, I leave HSDPA switched off, as I find it chews juice without being THAT much faster; 3G is fast enough browsing and downloading for me.
Good luck, keep us posted.
I've got a HTC TyTN (hermes) and i get the same problem: my battery wears off in maximum 3 hours after i fully charge it. all the connections are turned off,except for the phone function. also, while it's charging, no matter if it's charging through the usb or the AC charger, the battery gets very hot. PLEASE can anyone help
(i have the black satin normal rom, with the 1.43.00.00 radio version installed)
I all so have battery questions. This devise was advertised as an 7 hour talk time on GSM. Compare to my T-Mobile wing witch was only 5 hour talk time.
I don't use phone a lot during day only 5-10 min phone calls and every 60 min e-mail check. And T-mobile Wing (p4350) was going for 3 days no charge no problem. And This I have to charge every day. At the end of the day i have only 60% And T-Mobile USA don't have 3G eat.
I don't get it this phone supposed have one of the best battery life out of HTC phones. And I did charge it wan i first got it for long time before i tern it on.
About chargin and discharge our phones, whe have to remember that we do not use NiCd/NiMh batteries any more.
I have some facts about Li-ion batteries!!!
Guidelines for prolonging Li-ion battery life!
Unlike Ni-Cd batteries, lithium-ion batteries should be charged early and often. However, if they are not used for a long time, they should be brought to a charge level of around 40% - 60%.
Lithium-ion batteries should not be frequently fully discharged and recharged ("deep-cycled") like Ni-Cd batteries, but this is necessary after about every 30th recharge to recalibrate any external electronic "fuel gauge" (e.g. State Of Charge meter). This prevents the fuel gauge from showing an incorrect battery charge.
Lithium-ion batteries should never be depleted to below their minimum voltage, 2.4v to 3.0v per cell.
Li-ion batteries should be kept cool. Ideally they are stored in a refrigerator. Aging will take its toll much faster at high temperatures. The high temperatures found in cars cause lithium-ion batteries to degrade rapidly.
According to one book,[35] lithium-ion batteries should not be frozen (most lithium-ion battery electrolytes freeze at approximately −40 °C; however, this is much colder than the lowest temperature reached by household freezers).
Li-ion batteries should be bought only when needed, because the aging process begins as soon as the battery is manufactured.[13]
When using a notebook computer running from fixed line power over extended periods, the battery should be removed, and stored in a cool place so that it is not affected by the heat produced by the computer.
/Krypto
BadTasteUK said:
Firstly, did you give it 3 charges of 16 hours plus? I didn't, and don't have as good a battery life of some others that did.
Also, have you got Windows Live connected and checking your hotmail constantly? That killed my battery.
Finally, I leave HSDPA switched off, as I find it chews juice without being THAT much faster; 3G is fast enough browsing and downloading for me.
Good luck, keep us posted.
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16 hours?!?!?!!?
It's a highly debated point, but it seems some who have done the old "3 charges of 16 hours" have a longer lasting battery than certainly I do.
In fact the O2 shop I bought the phone from advised the same, although I didn't actually do it!
Who knows the real best thing to do, all I know is I only get a day out of it, with light to medium use and HSDPA turned off.
Personally, I'm a little speculative of the 16 hour charge times.
I'm not gonna try to be an expert here, but aren't Li-Ion charge circuits designed such that when the battery reaches capacity, the charge cycle is complete? Ie. There is no further trickle charge to the battery? In that case, the 16 hour charge is not doing any good.
But in any case, I myself get 2 days fairly easily with about 1.5-2 hours of phone calls in an Edge area.
I am a firm believer a big difference comes from using of Standby and your signal strength. I've noticed where I go ski'in there is a very weak signal and my battery life drops to 40% or less in one day. So I think this is one major characteristic that will vary between all of us and will dramatically affect the battery life test results.
DaRacerz, you are absolutly right!
No trickle charge is applied because the Li-ion is unable to absorb overcharge. Trickle charge could cause plating of metallic lithium, a condition that renders the cell unstable.
So charging for 16 hours won't do anything.

Battery Opinions

Thought I would create this to see if you're happy with the battery life on your Vox and post some tips about charging and discharging for better life.
I am generally dis-satisfied with battery life on the Vox however I keep a fully charged battery in my Jeep, one in my wallet and one in my Vox to always stay connected. I switch to my 2250mAh when I know I'm doing to be using WiFi a lot.
Anyways, here is what I have found;
If you reboot your phone while charging, it will jump to a higher charged state and not properly store the charge. To combat this, I have placed a strip of electrical tape over the 2nd connector to the left on the battery which stops the battery from reporting the proper charge level. I run it down and place it on my external charger. Charges last a lot longer after I do this.
Any tips for how you use your Vox to maximize battery life?
I am happy, because I usually get through one day without any problems and then I am plugging it in over night anyway! I'd love a battery with higher capacity, but I hate those extended covers!
I'm happy with the battery life.
I find it lasts longer if I use the phone until the battery is pretty much dead and then charged until full again.
I usually get 3-4 days out of it that way.
Digi-UK said:
I'm happy with the battery life.
I find it lasts longer if I use the phone until the battery is pretty much dead and then charged until full again.
I usually get 3-4 days out of it that way.
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I am not happy at all. 3-4 days ? I bought vox few days back and I get 2 days max, with most of time on standby.
Okay so I received my 2250mAh battery cover, finally. However when using the battery, my device shuts off randomly, this only happens with the extended battery. It also seems the contact sheets are deeper and the pins have a hard time reaching them. If I slide the Vox shut hard, it will also reboot.
Any idea's?
The battery life is fine as long as you don't OC it. I manage to get 3 days with normal use.
With the CPU up to 240Mhz, it barely lasts a day. So i rather use the original 6.0 rom without OC and its still fast. WM6.1 is to slow without OC'ing for me.
So after 6 months of use i finaly found my settings wich i like. And makes the battery life OK for me
h4waii said:
Okay so I received my 2250mAh battery cover, finally. However when using the battery, my device shuts off randomly, this only happens with the extended battery. It also seems the contact sheets are deeper and the pins have a hard time reaching them. If I slide the Vox shut hard, it will also reboot.
Any idea's?
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I got this too when I just received the battery, but after something like 2 weeks these problems disappeared
I'm happy with battery life...
I get up to 2 days with heavy voice, email, and text -- some bluetooth, very little WiFi or Internet. Personally, I've never had a problem with a phone as long as I get a full day and can charge at night. Even if I got 6 days on a battery, I don't want to have to remember to plug my phone in at some point during the day when the battery is about to go. Much easier to plug in every night.
Battery life is exceptional!
I was having problems with my original battery; the phone would simply power down even though it showed that it was charged; and did not have long battery life.
I bought a new battery now I get 3 even 4 days of use with some Bluetooth and WiFi use (not much though). The new battery also seems to have solved my power down problem; had it for 4 weeks, not one power down. I am using the LeFab VoxRomWM6.1XIP20202_v1.0. Quite fast on it's own; I do not over clock.

Possible Battery Charge Limiter?

Guys,
I have a sony vaio and i have a mode called Enable Battery Care Function where the app restricts the battery to stop charging at 80% which would multiply the life of a notebook battery (says Sony) there is another mode super care function @ 50%. I find this handy because i always have the power plugged in for my laptop.
Similarly i always have my HD2 plugged in to my notebook, so i keep recharging and may be over charging the device too and burn my recharge cycles. So can an app limit my charging to 80% or so? anybody share the same feeling?
Maybe an app can help.
Thanks,
Raj
commonsense would say it stupid.
stinginess would say it smart.
unless of course, you plan to use that phone for few decades where no more battery would be on sale. then you better start take good care of that battery.
badai said:
commonsense would say it stupid.
stinginess would say it smart.
unless of course, you plan to use that phone for few decades where no more battery would be on sale. then you better start take good care of that battery.
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Well,
I never use a phone for more than an year, you can see my list.. but what i do is to maintain it properly. I also have 2 spare batteries with me. so answer to my question if you know or pass.. this forum is no place for crap for someone with post count of 15.
Raj..
http://www.wmskins.com/blog/how-to-increase-battery-life-of-windows-mobiles
A Lithium Ion battery should never be charged to 100% or fully Discharged. The famous 80-20 rule is applicable here as well, though in a different way. Charging to 80% increases battery life.
Don’t wait for full discharge, charge it frequently. Keeping the battery near to 80% always, gives better life. This is also what many vendors claim as “memory effect”.
Every battery has limited Full charge-discharge cycles. Of the order of 300+. In other words a typical phone battery can be fully charged/discharged 300 times. Doing more frequent charges, as specified in point #2, will increase overall life.
During first time use (when the battery is new) don`t use it till its fully charged. This is why it is always written on manuals “let the device charge for 2-3 hours”.
Best way to increase battery life is Not to use it. If you keep AC power plugged in on your phones, keeping the battery at 80% (as in #1), your battery will last longer. Though discharging it once in a month would be must in such cases.
Surrounding temperature contributes a lot. Colder weather gives better battery life. So make sure your cellphone doesn’t overheat, if it does, find ways to keep it cool.
When not in use for long, store the battery keeping point 1 and point 6 in mind.
Apart from this there are specific tips to elongate battery life which are related to user’s usage:
Keep the screen brightness to as low as possible. This can reduce battery consumption by upto 40%.
Don’t do heavy tasks like gaming when running on battery. This often uses High CPU graphics which drains battery faster.
Kill background processes that you are not using, multitasking is one serious battery killer.
Use headsets for long conversations. This will give you 40-70% improvement in talk time. Why? because when you hold the cellphone in hands, your body absorbs most of the RF.
Use software like WMLongLife, it can increase battery significantly. It does that by switching the network mode to 2G automatically when you doen’t require 3G
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Well, I have my Sony Vaio TT92 with ext.batt (big one) now for 1,5 yrs in everyday use and until February had it in batt-save-mode 80%. It lasted about 10 hrs. with 50% screen-brightness and volume 50 %. Now in Feb it started to last only 7 hrs and less. Now I switched to full charge to get 9 hrs. of working time.
On the other hand I have my HTC Touch HD now for 2,5 yrs and until Dec. 2009 in full use, since my HD2 arrived as backup phone with a "xtra" sim-card so both the HD2 and Touch HD are ringing. I reduced e-mail download on my Touch HD to once a day and the batt after unplugging at 6 am shows still 98-99 % in the evening at 10 pm with the original batt that came with the phone.
What do I want to tell You: drain and charging cycles do not seem to affect small batts with little Ah-drain as much as notebook batts, so it seems to me.
For my HD2 I bought the ext.batt and it is fine for 2 days of full work with it. When I see it deteriorating I will buy a new one.
Or, more probable, the HD3

I think original batteries are having problems

I just replaced the original battery that came with my phone in October 2010. The battery would drain 2% per minute while reading a book on the Kindle app. Actually any screen usage would do the same. It would also go down to 10% then shutoff then I would leave it alone for a few hours, reboot and the battery went to 50% with no charging. Then I would plug it in and it would go to 100% in a few minutes. Impossible. With very little use the battery would last 10 hours.
I put in a new HTC OEM battery that I bought of Amazon for like $6. It's been running for over a day with very heavy use and I am having trouble draining the battery to calibrate the phone. It's friggin AWESOME.
I think the old batteries are having some kind of problem or just getting old. It seemed like a heat problem where the longer the battery was used the faster it would drain and then stop completely. Then left alone it would show the correct charge.
Other people in various threads were having the same problem. Hopefully someone can figure something out.
succorso said:
I just replaced the original battery that came with my phone in October 2010. The battery would drain 2% per minute while reading a book on the Kindle app. Actually any screen usage would do the same. It would also go down to 10% then shutoff then I would leave it alone for a few hours, reboot and the battery went to 50% with no charging. Then I would plug it in and it would go to 100% in a few minutes. Impossible. With very little use the battery would last 10 hours.
I put in a new HTC OEM battery that I bought of Amazon for like $6. It's been running for over a day with very heavy use and I am having trouble draining the battery to calibrate the phone. It's friggin AWESOME.
I think the old batteries are having some kind of problem or just getting old. It seemed like a heat problem where the longer the battery was used the faster it would drain and then stop completely. Then left alone it would show the correct charge.
Other people in various threads were having the same problem. Hopefully someone can figure something out.
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Do you have a link to the battery you ordered?
ziggy34 said:
Do you have a link to the battery you ordered?
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I ordered this one http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QJB3E8/ref=pe_175190_21431760_M2C_SC_3p_dp_1. Not sure if it's the best or cheapest, it's just the one I chose.
succorso said:
I just replaced the original battery that came with my phone in October 2010. The battery would drain 2% per minute while reading a book on the Kindle app. Actually any screen usage would do the same. It would also go down to 10% then shutoff then I would leave it alone for a few hours, reboot and the battery went to 50% with no charging. Then I would plug it in and it would go to 100% in a few minutes. Impossible. With very little use the battery would last 10 hours.
I put in a new HTC OEM battery that I bought of Amazon for like $6. It's been running for over a day with very heavy use and I am having trouble draining the battery to calibrate the phone. It's friggin AWESOME.
I think the old batteries are having some kind of problem or just getting old. It seemed like a heat problem where the longer the battery was used the faster it would drain and then stop completely. Then left alone it would show the correct charge.
Other people in various threads were having the same problem. Hopefully someone can figure something out.
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It could be newer battery technology. I mean, the MT4G is nearly two years old at this point. Can you post a screenshot of your battery use? It seems that the standard for judging a battery is screen on time. How much are you getting? For $6 I would gladly invest in a new battery if we can get some numbers to back this up.
The batteries are just old. I bought a $6 battery and it's working great. Let's see how long it lasts
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ExtremeNerd said:
It could be newer battery technology. I mean, the MT4G is nearly two years old at this point. Can you post a screenshot of your battery use? It seems that the standard for judging a battery is screen on time. How much are you getting? For $6 I would gladly invest in a new battery if we can get some numbers to back this up.
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I just started using the battery so I don't have real good stats yet. However, the charging is also taking a lot less time. My old battery took about 6 hours to charged from 5%. This should be done in about 2-3 hours.
nope - no issues on my OE battery here... last me for a day 1/2 with minimal activity (checking emails, fb). Guess i'm just lucky?
I have to agree, check your batteries. I just checked mine and it is turning oval like. Time for a new one
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nope - no issues on my OE battery here... last me for a day 1/2 with minimal activity (checking emails, fb). Guess i'm just lucky?
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may i also add that i've had my device for almost a year now using an OE batt and still going strong.
Lithium Ion batteries begin to degrade as soon as they're manufactured. They only have a few years shelf life. Poor charging habits will shorten them I already replaced mine months ago.
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I have to agree, check your batteries. I just checked mine and it is turning oval like. Time for a new one
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I see - i'm very critical of overcharging my phone. I have clocked mine the other day to see how fast it'll charge up from 30% to 90% and it took an hour and 15 mins almost... to me that's respectable.
I recommend buying the Anker battery for this phone. It really improved my battery life. Before I would only get 1.5-2 hours of screen on time before needing to charge my phone. http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1550mAh...d=1341178398&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+mytouch+4g
Got a new battery and life is better, much better

Battery replacement

Hi guys, have you guys ever bought a replacement battery for your p30 pro ? mine is finished. It drains very quickly. I'm thinking of buying one and install it, Has anyone has one to recommend? like where to buy ? link?
there is many out there, but i want the original one. I dont trust those on ebay.
thanks
Nope, mine still holds on really well.
Be sure that there is no app draining your device. Or that your charging habits are okay.
For better battery health:
Try to only use the Huawei charger, and no cheap chargers.
Battery performance degrade faster after full charge and drain, so don't let the battery die too often, it is recommended to charge your phone often. Partially discharge is healthier than (almost) full discharge, they advice to not go below 20%.
JeffreyNijnatten said:
Nope, mine still holds on really well.
Be sure that there is no app draining your device. Or that your charging habits are okay.
For better battery health:
Try to only use the Huawei charger, and no cheap chargers.
Battery performance degrade faster after full charge and drain, so don't let the battery die too often, it is recommended to charge your phone often. Partially discharge is healthier than (almost) full discharge, they advice to not go below 20%.
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Standby time is okay. SOT are about 60h after a full charge.
as soon i use the screen, regardless the apps, it starts to drain very quickly. Per. google dua (video call) 25% gone after like 35mins of using. Or if i play games, it kills even faster. Although, I set to the screen brightness to lowest enough so i can see.
I have p30 pro over year, and I am heavy user but battery is still fine, as advised before check for apk issue, must be something there what drain your battery, way to early to replace battery, and battery will be still covered under 2 year warranty, but there will be apk issue, record all apks, and start removing one by one, this way you will found faulty apk in your phone, good luck.
Never used Quick charge, never use phone while charging... Before this afternoon I rebooted the phone at 33%, when turns on again it shows 14%.. And in this last week I notice often that battery quickly discharge under 20-25% (just like 5m of sot 22% to 5% and phone goes to sleep) I'm so disappointed by this phone, after 13 months of use...
me too, i'm looking into one...if you guys ever got one to suggest
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Never used Quick charge
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Does that mean you didn't use his charger, the original one ... ??
Then you complain that his battery is destroyed ...

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