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I got my HTC One Mini yesterday and I'm getting pretty good battery life so far, how is it for you guys?
I'm using jmz's Stock Rooted Odex WWE Rom and Jmz M4 Kernel 9-04-13. I unplugged my phone around 9 AM this morning and it's now 1:45 AM and I'm at 48%.
I installed 12 apps, torrented a 315MB file using uTorrent @ about 600 kb/s, watched 23 minutes of 720p video using MX Player with hardware decoding, watched about 15 minutes of YouTube videos, went on Facebook for about 20 minutes, browsed the internet for about 5 minutes, browsed a forum using Tapatalk for about 15 minutes, made about 5 minutes of calls, sent/received about 20 texts, read a manga chapter, used it as a flashlight for about a minute, used it as a remote for XBMC for about 2 hours, flashed a kernel, and took a couple of pictures, a 30 second 1080p video, and a Zoe to test out the Camera. All of this was over Wi-Fi.
I think I could easily get 2 days out of the battery as my typical usage would be lighter. How is the battery life for you and what Rom/Kernal are you using?
Stock UK Vodafone Rom recently updated with the it's package.
Well...I am sadly unimpressed by the battery. I've had mine now for just under a month and don't get a day.
I use it to surf the BBC website (in mobile mode) over 3g and at other tines WiFi.
I make calls about 30-60mins a day and play a version of bubble breaker.
I can literally see the power drain when surfing the web. This us the single most draining activity...much worse than when I used my desire.
I have configured all power save options, disabled all non essential apps, and ensured the phone is not burning background or unnecessary apps.
Still it goes rapidly. It's a shame but I like the phone so will live with it.
2 days...yes if all you do is make calls. Anything more demanding not a chance I'm afraid. I have tried, a lot.
So it is now 1.10pm and I have 52% and at 9 am I had 100%. No video no gaming but a mix of BBC on WiFi and 3g (i have a femtocell so no burning power while looking for a signal).
Nice phone in so many ways but battery life, in call quality and control, are very poor.
All the best,
Sam
I am planning to buy HTC one mini, Wanted to get real idea of battery life, so this was helpful. Could you laso tell me if that 1GB RAM is a problem maybe once you have 60-70 apps ? I thinking of 2 years life at least so was concerned?
zopeon said:
I am planning to buy HTC one mini, Wanted to get real idea of battery life, so this was helpful. Could you laso tell me if that 1GB RAM is a problem maybe once you have 60-70 apps ? I thinking of 2 years life at least so was concerned?
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For me it isn't too much of an issue, but they really should have equipped it with 2 GB of memory, 1 GB has been the standard for about 2 years. I have 42 user apps installed and most of the time I can have multiple apps open without any slow downs. Occasionally if I have multiple heavy apps running (Maps, Facebook, Pandora, Chrome ect.) it can slow down due to the lack of memory, but if I close one it speeds right back up. If you read any reviews you'll hear something along the lines of it's stupid that they only gave this phone 1GB of memory, but for most people it won't be a problem which I agree with. I'd suggest trying it out at a local store before buying it. Different people will see things differently, to some the HTC One Mini and S4 Mini will seem slow compared to the regular One and the S4, to others it will seem very fast.
ok guys please keep in mind that your mobile connection eats your power rly ****ing bad. I did a lot of tests with the mini and i'm was even able to get 5days with 25% left. Camera or wachting videos coast a lot of power as well but music is ok that does not need that much power.
Its all about your connections and how good the signal is, so if you want a longer battery life only use wifi.
The device has smaller screen size, lower resolution, half the number of cores, lower clock speed, lower powered GPU, half the RAM, no NFC or OIS. It should get *better* battery life than the full-sized one all things considered, though the smaller battery will definitely even this out somewhat. I wouldn't be surprised if under typical moderate-high usage involving CPU and screen this device should hold out similarly to the HTC One but in standby, etc it will be a bit lower.
Notebookcheck and GSMArena have done thorough battery testing, though notebookcheck doesn't test standby time and GSMArena's standby time testing method is a bit suspect.
Anandtech haven't published a review of the Mini yet but in their review of the Galaxy Note 3 you can see some battery tests they did of the HTC One Mini and it holds out pretty well considering it's not a phablet.
I bought mine two weeks ago. On the first week, my battery just last 10 hours at least and after a few days of experimentation of various settings and process monitoring, I can last 24 hours with still 20% remaining.
My daily usage can be define as quite conservative as I'm busy at work most of the day.
Here's my activities to give you an idea:
Call - at least 3 minutes a day
SMS - least 20 messages a day
browsing via HSPA / 3G - at least 1 hour a day
browsing via wifi - at least 1 hour a day
playing games - at least 30 minutes a day
reading / composing / sending emails - I set this to manual, at least 5 times a day (when I'm at home)
Frequently Used Apps:
Chrome
stock Calendar
stock Mail
Keep
stock Music Player
Cordy
Twitter
ES Task Manager
ES File Explorer
Google Play
Youtube
System Panel
Disabled Apps:
Facebook
Linkedin
SoundHound
7 Digital
Google Search
Google+
Hangouts
Kid Mode
Maps
Plurk
Hope this can help somebody to have an idea.
No matter what the phone, you tend to see battery life tests showing 8+ hours of web browsing battery life. However, real life never matches up to this expectation, with 3 or 4 hours of web browsing much more typical. This is the case with all smartphones - even a device like the Note 2 or Note 3 (albeit with higher expectations to begin with: - a Note 2/3 may tests 11+ hours web browsing but typically get 4.5+ in real-life conditions).
Unfortunately this leads many to believe that their brand new device (or its battery) is faulty. But in most cases this is not true.
I'll attempt to explain the real reason for the discrepancy.
Most importantly, the battery life tests are exclusively limited to that activity or task. For example, fully charging the smartphone, continuously web browsing for 8+ hours until the phone dies. In reality when we use our phones, the phone will be on standby, or doing other tasks, at other times. For example, 8+ hours of web browsing from a full charge is not the same as getting 8+ hours of web browsing over a 16 hour day. Those other 8 hours, even if the phone are on standby, are going to use up some of your battery, too.
The single biggest battery drain of a device is usually going to be the screen, unless you have specifically forced the screen brightness to a low (<33%) amount. At full brightness, a smartphone may burn through battery after only 3.5 hours of web browsing even if it could last 8+ hours at 40% screen brightness (the brightness control is not usually linear in terms of power draw). Review sites tend to standardise on a particular brightness level that is relatively low (the reason for this is often that allows fair comparison with devices that just can't get as bright). The bottom line is that 8+ hours of screen on time at lowish brightness might drop to half that or lower if you let auto-brightness bring up the brightness during the daylight hours or when outdoors, or if you prefer higher brightnesses.
Often, battery life tests will be done over wifi with mobile phone reception disabled entirely. This is not realistic as with a smartphone you're usually connected to a cell tower even while you're using wifi, so that voice calls and texts can still come through. Also, cellular uses a lot more energy while idle than wifi does. So even if you set the brightness really low and do nothing else with the phone, you still shouldn't be surprised that you can't get 8+ hours of web browsing if you also have the phone connected to a cell tower in the background. Some sites will conduct battery life tests over the cellular network instead of wifi, and typically these will get much lower battery life ratings (eg. 4+ hours, even with the same brightness level as for the wifi test).
Bottom line is, don't head back to the shop if you only get 3 to 4 hours screen on time during the day with web browsing. This is entirely normal for *some* usage patterns. You can improve it by:
Disable auto-brightness and set the brightness to a low-ish value, say 30%-40% of maximum. This might be able to double your screen-on time compared to full brightness.
Avoid using the phone much in direct sunlight. For the brightness to be high enough to read in direct sunlight, you'll be burning through your battery quickly, and if you've set the brightness manually to a low level as advised above, you won't be able to read it in direct sunlight.
Connect to wifi (but of course, only if you trust the wifi network to be secure and respect your privacy).
Realise that if you ever play CPU- or GPU-intensive games (most casual games shouldn't fit in this category) then a beefier battery or external battery booster may be a good investment. There's not much you can do about their battery use.
Only after considering the above should you hunt through battery usage analysers and wakelock detectors. In many cases even a misbehaving wakelock that keeps your phone partially awake all day has a low impact compared to having the screen on full brightness for just 20 or 30 minutes.
Hi guys,
Background: I use my phone I'd say medium use. Clash of clans, videos and photos browsing, emails, whatsapp. But i hate to put anything off so 4G location bluetooth everything always on. My note 4 has been amazing with its removable battery allowing me to use a phone in this way amd has revolutionised the enjoyment i get out of it. No more switching on and off bluetooth or gps. No worries in the world. Now i need a new one with a big screen and decent enough cam and the only option with removable battery is the LG V20 which to be fair looks a decent phone. However I also see the Mate 9 and whilst it doesn't have removeable battery it has a sensible screen res and a 4000mah battery meaning it should last a full day no worries. And I prefer the faster Kirin 960 and the bokeh camera setup.
The issue: i was on the verge of ordering it when I came across techzillas 1 month review where basically trashes the battery. Yes he's a heavy user but he's comparing it to other phones which do better with his same use.
I don't understand. Is it his firmware? Has the issue been sorted? Is the battery not that great afterall? Id be buying from wondamobile so id be getting whatever international rom they use. Shall I just play it safe and get the lesser V20 if I'm going to keep all things on?
For me it seams​ that with the b156 firmware the battery is not as good as before. But still excellent I use my phone a lot and most of the time I manage a full day with out charging. I get around 8 hours screen time. I never play games on my phone but use it mostly for productivity and browsing. Occasionally I watch some movies , YouTube and listen to tidal.
Most of the time I use very low brightness as I prefer this for reading.
stefanve said:
For me it seams​ that with the b156 firmware the battery is not as good as before. But still excellent I use my phone a lot and most of the time I manage a full day with out charging. I get around 8 hours screen time. I never play games on my phone but use it mostly for productivity and browsing. Occasionally I watch some movies , YouTube and listen to tidal.
Most of the time I use very low brightness as I prefer this for reading.
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Ah.. I'm new to this of concept of SOT. I don't know how it works. I can't imagine anyone sitting there staring at their phone literally for 8 hours! I work in the day and use it every now and then there, then when home when the wife isn't having a spazz at me for daring to go on the phone I use it now and then for using Kodi remote and youtube etc... I don't know how much screen on time that'd equate to.
Do you keep all things like bluetooth and GPS and 4G on or do you have to be careful with it like with all my old phones in order to get a full day? With my Note 4 as I say a breath of fresh air that I could keep everything on and just change battery once I got home.
Everything is on, during the day I mostly use 4G. The reason I get between 6 and 8 hours is because I have to do a lot of emailing and maintaining appointments etc for my work and blackberry hub is so good in emailing (mush better than the outlook my company uses) I use my phone for that instead of my laptop. Also I do lots of reading both work an pleasure related.
If i have slow days I can manage two days on one charge easily. In short the mate 9 has an excellent battery. I'm never thinking about the battery as I did with my old phones it seems to be even better than my old BlackBerry Passport
It's the best battery life of any phone I have used. Mine is on 4g all day with GPS and bluetooth always on.
My previous best phone was the Note 4 that I had to charge every night. I only have to charge the Mate 9 on alternate nights however hard I use it.
I have other issues with the Mate 9, but the battery is certainly not one of them.
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Everything is on, during the day I mostly use 4G. The reason I get between 6 and 8 hours is because I have to do a lot of emailing and maintaining appointments etc for my work and blackberry hub is so good in emailing (mush better than the outlook my company uses) I use my phone for that instead of my laptop. Also I do lots of reading both work an pleasure related.
If i have slow days I can manage two days on one charge easily. In short the mate 9 has an excellent battery. I'm never thinking about the battery as I did with my old phones it seems to be even better than my old BlackBerry Passport
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Wow ok that's surprising. No idea what this techzilla dude is on about then on youtube. He seems quite an honest and credible chap so I wonder if it's firmware related or perhaps he got a dud.
RR-99 said:
It's the best battery life of any phone I have used. Mine is on 4g all day with GPS and bluetooth always on.
My previous best phone was the Note 4 that I had to charge every night. I only have to charge the Mate 9 on alternate nights however hard I use it.
I have other issues with the Mate 9, but the battery is certainly not one of them.
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As above, I'm surprised it's this good after the techzilla trashign of the battery on youtube. You wouldn't know yur firmware would you?
What are your issues with it? I hear low light cam performance isn't excellent but it isn't great with my Note 4 either and I can't imagine it's ever satisfactory with the size of lens you can get on any phone. I'm looking to use the Bokeh effect for nice pics of my daughter, is this bit at least working well?
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It certainly seems from what you guys are saying that this beast will live from morning to evening without even needing a charge for my sort of use even with everything on. Sounds really awesome and might have swung be back into getting this over the V20 again.
applehater00 said:
Wow ok that's surprising. No idea what this techzilla dude is on about then on youtube. He seems quite an honest and credible chap so I wonder if it's firmware related or perhaps he got a dud.
As above, I'm surprised it's this good after the techzilla trashign of the battery on youtube. You wouldn't know yur firmware would you?
What are your issues with it? I hear low light cam performance isn't excellent but it isn't great with my Note 4 either and I can't imagine it's ever satisfactory with the size of lens you can get on any phone. I'm looking to use the Bokeh effect for nice pics of my daughter, is this bit at least working well?
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It certainly seems from what you guys are saying that this beast will live from morning to evening without even needing a charge for my sort of use even with everything on. Sounds really awesome and might have swung be back into getting this over the V20 again.
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I'm on L29C432B156. I haven't noticed any loss of battery life after two upgrades.
I think I have to most recent one. All I can think of maybe the guy plays allot of games or has some rogue app on his phone eating all the battery life. In any case most reviews are positive about the battery so if one dude that dislikes it does sound like an isolated incident.
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I'm on L29C432B156. I haven't noticed any loss of battery life after two upgrades.
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Ah, like Stefan. He notices some but not much and it still sounds great. Thanks :good:
stefanve said:
I think I have to most recent one. All I can think of maybe the guy plays allot of games or has some rogue app on his phone eating all the battery life. In any case most reviews are positive about the battery so if one dude that dislikes it does sound like an isolated incident.
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Yeah the more I look into it the more I think this is the case.
He seems like a nice decent likable chap who I'm assuming doesn't have a bias either way. But according to his "heavy use", when people say they're getting much better battery than his alleged figures he defines in his comments his heavy use as:
" i stream music from Spotify, watch YouTube, i have 5 email accounts syncing constantly, i get around 1000 emails an hour, 7 to 800 Telegram msgs an hour, fb,twitter, instagram, fb msg, /google Plus, snapchat, youtube studio, surfing the web, a couple of hrs phone calls, text messages, XDA, 500 Whats App msgs per Hour. This is how i test batterty life, and for me the Mate 9 can't deliver more than 6hrs SOT"
All I can say to that is WOW! Who on earth links five emails, gets 1000 emails AN HOUR, 100s of telegrams whatever they are, 500whatsapp messages PER HOUR (I mean that's one every 7.2 seconds!!!!). with loads of other stuff running and TWO HOURS of calls etc etc.. If doing all that with everything on he's getting 6 hours SOT then I can say I'm mightily impressed with it! Even heavy users wouldn't be be using it that much I'm sure. And if he can honestly say he gets the same SOT with iphones and samsungs with more powerful screens and smaller batteries all I can say is at worst I frankly don't believe it, at best he's got a dud Mate 9 or more likely all the aforementioned phones are awesome and we have nothign to worry about as 6 hrs SOT with a whatsapp message every 7.2seconds and an email every 3.6seconds plus all the other **** running is very respectable.
Personal experience over the Note 5. this thing kills battery life expectancies.
The Note 5 with:
BT ON Connected to huawei watch
GPS off
No Autosync
All apps killed
No calls
15 texts per day max
Packages disabled
1-2 hours of screen use tops
I Got maximum 13 hours. I get up every day at 8am and by 7-745 its nearly dead doing next to nothing. Android will not sleep and samsung refuses to accept its their software. My Mate 9, buds Moto Z play both on tmobile never have issues. he gets 8-9 hours screen time i get 8-9 hours screen time charge once every 2-3 days.
My Settings are EXACTLY the same with the exception of:
BT off when not using my Sony M1000x headphones.
300+ textsPer day.
No calls
Checking FB via Metal for FB
Email in Gmail 5-6 times a day
Camaro Forums via chrome browser
Instagram
Spotify + many more apps
And i never have issues. Granted i exchanged it because the B156/157 idk which one ruined battery. i have a B138 fw now and it works flawlessly. Its pathetic samsunbg phones barely make it through the day even when NOT used. Im dropping samsung and sprint very soon.
@applehater00
If your main consideration is battery life I do not think you will be disappointed.
But for what it is worth I will tell you the points I do not like about the Mate 9.
The vibration is very weak.
The notification light is tiny and almost invisible except in the dark.
The GPS is poor and no good for sports use.
There are various problems with notifications and some email apps don't work properly.
All these problems are discussed in this forum.
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@applehater00
If your main consideration is battery life I do not think you will be disappointed.
But for what it is worth I will tell you the points I do not like about the Mate 9.
The vibration is very weak.
The notification light is tiny and almost invisible except in the dark.
The GPS is poor and no good for sports use.
There are various problems with notifications and some email apps don't work properly.
All these problems are discussed in this forum.
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Oh.
The GPS worries me - I use GPS a lot for visiting clients, is it not accurate or good enough?
And will the normal gmail app work ok?
leo72793 said:
Personal experience over the Note 5. this thing kills battery life expectancies.
The Note 5 with:
BT ON Connected to huawei watch
GPS off
No Autosync
All apps killed
No calls
15 texts per day max
Packages disabled
1-2 hours of screen use tops
I Got maximum 13 hours. I get up every day at 8am and by 7-745 its nearly dead doing next to nothing. Android will not sleep and samsung refuses to accept its their software. My Mate 9, buds Moto Z play both on tmobile never have issues. he gets 8-9 hours screen time i get 8-9 hours screen time charge once every 2-3 days.
My Settings are EXACTLY the same with the exception of:
BT off when not using my Sony M1000x headphones.
300+ textsPer day.
No calls
Checking FB via Metal for FB
Email in Gmail 5-6 times a day
Camaro Forums via chrome browser
Instagram
Spotify + many more apps
And i never have issues. Granted i exchanged it because the B156/157 idk which one ruined battery. i have a B138 fw now and it works flawlessly. Its pathetic samsunbg phones barely make it through the day even when NOT used. Im dropping samsung and sprint very soon.
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Ok thanks
Strange though because people are saying the B156 one is fine. Opposite to your experience.
Maybe the battery just goes crazy and dies at some point?
applehater00 said:
Hi guys,
Background: I use my phone I'd say medium use. Clash of clans, videos and photos browsing, emails, whatsapp. But i hate to put anything off so 4G location bluetooth everything always on. My note 4 has been amazing with its removable battery allowing me to use a phone in this way amd has revolutionised the enjoyment i get out of it. No more switching on and off bluetooth or gps. No worries in the world. Now i need a new one with a big screen and decent enough cam and the only option with removable battery is the LG V20 which to be fair looks a decent phone. However I also see the Mate 9 and whilst it doesn't have removeable battery it has a sensible screen res and a 4000mah battery meaning it should last a full day no worries. And I prefer the faster Kirin 960 and the bokeh camera setup.
The issue: i was on the verge of ordering it when I came across techzillas 1 month review where basically trashes the battery. Yes he's a heavy user but he's comparing it to other phones which do better with his same use.
I don't understand. Is it his firmware? Has the issue been sorted? Is the battery not that great afterall? Id be buying from wondamobile so id be getting whatever international rom they use. Shall I just play it safe and get the lesser V20 if I'm going to keep all things on?
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whatever the reason is i bet every user have diff usage n diff type of apps running in their phone,but all i can say this phone can last me from 7.30 til 11.30pm with everything on(except for BT n NFC) and most of the time i m on 4g,i can get 6-7 hours of SOT with whatsapp,email,telegram heavy chrome browsing,youtubing,xda-ing,some gaming(coc,skyforce).and when i wanted to go tl bed at 11.30 it still have 20% left
applehater00 said:
Oh.
The GPS worries me - I use GPS a lot for visiting clients, is it not accurate or good enough?
And will the normal gmail app work ok?
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The GPS is fine for ordinary driving use, and it gets a fix very quickly. But there are some serious issues that Huawei aren't mending.
Read through this thread for details. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/gps-problems-stats-reports-t3508213
Sorry I can't help you with gmail as I don't use it on this phone.
Right now I have 89% left, 10 hours active, 33 mins SOT. I think I got 7h SOT yesterday and still 50% left.
Compared to my Note 4 which barely lasts 12 hours, and that's idle time.
RR-99 said:
The GPS is fine for ordinary driving use, and it gets a fix very quickly. But there are some serious issues that Huawei aren't mending.
Read through this thread for details. https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-9/help/gps-problems-stats-reports-t3508213
Sorry I can't help you with gmail as I don't use it on this phone.
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Ah i see thanks.
Thats disappointing. I may wish ti get back into cycling and if it cant track my ride accurately it sounds like a dud. How ridiculous! Just as i was about to buy one another problem pops up.
I wonder if huawei just aren't ready for making phones...!
It's a shame, yes. There are of course many good things about the Mate 9. They just let it down on a few things.
my mate 9 gets 9-10 hours of heavy use - granted i have some mods and tweaks
Hey guys! Been getting around 4h SOT as highest on my device, AOD turned off, 30-50 % brightness, fhd+ and dark theme.
Can get through the day but can't get a minute more than 4h sot which seems weird.
It's not that I think the battery life is absolute ****, I'm okay with it, the thing that sort of "bothers" me is that i see people getting like 6-10h SOT on like 2 days of charge which seems unbelievable to me.
Now on to the question,
is my utterly **** 4g signal preventing me from reaching 6-7 h SOT or is it just that I'm "unlucky" with the battery lottery.
Is it fair to expect a 6-7h SOT if i do decide to root and flash something like a notorious kernel and a rom?
Which I know will permanently void my warranty.
Or should I return the device and swap it out for either another s8+ or something like a g6?
I hope I don't seem too much of a brat ****face but I did lay out tons of cash for this phone, which other than the battery I am incredibly impressed by.
Thank you guys for keeping this forum running, it's been a lifesaver!
Del
underdog_656 said:
Most of these 6-10 hours of sot is nonsense as most of these people don't even use the phone properly only leaving the screen on so that sot would increase rather than using it properly like watching YouTube having a decent brightness etc... Just use your phone as much as you like stop thinking about battery life if it's really a problem get a powerbank. Me my self if I'm at work I use a lot of GPS as I need to travel and I have my screen turned of as I listen to Google maps rather look this will put me at around 3 to 4 hours of SOT or more sometimes depending how much I use the screen. But when I'm at home I use the phone non stop and I get around 5 -7 I always use full brightest all the time full res gaming sometimes youtube etc as you can see the people who get 6 to 10 they don't even use the phone that much so is there a point for them to have this phone if they don't use it to full potential no they might as well get a cheap phone.
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The only reason I would suggest rooting is if you want to play around with the phone like having a different kernel that allows to change voltage, speed etc
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This, i can get 20hr sot on my mate 9 if i leave it with screen on, take in account SOT means NOTHING, it just one measure that can be easily manipulated.
I use my phone the way i use and i only judge by the end of the day, how much perfect left and what took the most of my battery life, without caring about SOT at all.
Just now i was traveling to Budapest and made ton of photos and videos with my DSLR and the Mate 9, on sunny days your brightness will be up, shooting 4K videos and taking pictures, using GPS google maps, will make your SOT low, does that mean your battery life is bad? NOT AT ALL
Stop caring about sot and use GSAM monitoring up to understand if there is a rogue app.
I have the S8+ and I see that they have figured out how to root the Snapdragon version. I am not really pressed to root my phone.
The 1st time I used the phone, which was a weekend and mostly WiFi, I got over 6 hours of screen time. However on my work days where I use mostly LTE service and I'm inside an office building, I may only have 3-4 hours of screen time but I will make it home with almost 50% of battery life.
I'm no longer concerned with screen time. If my phone can get me through a full day, then I'm happy with it.
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alldino said:
Hey guys! Been getting around 4h SOT as highest on my device, AOD turned off, 30-50 % brightness, fhd+ and dark theme.
Can get through the day but can't get a minute more than 4h sot which seems weird.
It's not that I think the battery life is absolute ****, I'm okay with it, the thing that sort of "bothers" me is that i see people getting like 6-10h SOT on like 2 days of charge which seems unbelievable to me.
Now on to the question,
is my utterly **** 4g signal preventing me from reaching 6-7 h SOT or is it just that I'm "unlucky" with the battery lottery.
Is it fair to expect a 6-7h SOT if i do decide to root and flash something like a notorious kernel and a rom?
Which I know will permanently void my warranty.
Or should I return the device and swap it out for either another s8+ or something like a g6?
I hope I don't seem too much of a brat ****face but I did lay out tons of cash for this phone, which other than the battery I am incredibly impressed by.
Thank you guys for keeping this forum running, it's been a lifesaver!
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Firstly,
I fully agree with @Derpling post above .( His last paragraph..)
Also SOT, now days, means nothing to me.!
Many years back, i used to be obsessed
with benchmark, battery usage, performance etc.
I also use to root all my device's.
However, presently i have stop been " obsessed"
and accept what is reasonable/acceptable.
eg. battery usage including SOT.
prefomance and stop rooting.
There is plenty work arounds available.
Presently, what i do
is i have a few good battery
apps... Betterbattery, Wakelock detector,
Gsam, I enabled these apps with ADB, to get them working. No root. (Very straightforward one or two liner commands, that's all.)
If i have a rogue app, and my battery use " suffers" i use these apps to id the app. and sort app out accordingly.
eg clear cache /data or uninstall.
Lastly i read online that presently,
more devs are
using " other alternatives" than root.
eg ADB...
to give you similar end results.
Bottom line... I found that in most cases
rooting a device just
creates other/more issues.!.. to fix.!
Now days, for me to root my device ( if ever again)
i must have a very, very good reason to root.
Good luck
willcor said:
Firstly,
I fully agree with @Derpling post above .( His last paragraph..)
Also SOT, now days, means nothing to me.!
Many years back, i used to be obsessed
with benchmark, battery usage, performance etc.
I also use to root all my device's.
However, presently i have stop been " obsessed"
and accept what is reasonable/acceptable.
eg. battery usage including SOT.
prefomance and stop rooting.
There is plenty work arounds available.
Presently, what i do
is i have a few good battery
apps... Betterbattery, Wakelock detector,
Gsam, I enabled these apps with ADB, to get them working. No root. (Very straightforward one or two liner commands, that's all.)
If i have a rogue app, and my battery use " suffers" i use these apps to id the app. and sort app out accordingly.
eg clear cache /data or uninstall.
Lastly i read online that presently,
more devs are
using " other alternatives" than root.
eg ADB...
to give you similar end results.
Bottom line... I found that in most cases
rooting a device just
creates other/more issues.!.. to fix.!
Now days, for me to root my device ( if ever again)
i must have a very, very good reason to root.
Good luck
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You so right about root, there is a workaround to everything tbh, i use the Mate 9 without root and it's the closest phone in my opinion to perfection, no tweaks needed.
Geekbench SOT all of it are just numbers as it means nothing.
alldino said:
Now on to the question,
is my utterly **** 4g signal preventing me from reaching 6-7 h SOT or is it just that I'm "unlucky" with the battery lottery.
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I think this is your problem, not the battery. One of the biggest battery killers on any device is a weak signal as the phone will push more power to the radio to try and find a better one (not exactly what happens, but there or thereabouts). Rotting won't change that.
Have you tried switching to 3G only, does that make a difference? Does it differ when you spend time in an area with a better signal?
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I think this is your problem, not the battery. One of the biggest battery killers on any device is a weak signal as the phone will push more power to the radio to try and find a better one (not exactly what happens, but there or thereabouts). Rotting won't change that.
Have you tried switching to 3G only, does that make a difference? Does it differ when you spend time in an area with a better signal?
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The problem with my service signal is just temporary, I've been working for the summer but I'm moving back to the university tonight, there I have full 4g and 3g signal so hopefully this will change, however I have settled down a bit with the phone and I'm pretty happy with the battery now, 4h sot is not bad
yea rooting aint the solution
try gsam, wakelock detector, etc to detect the rogue app
imho you don't need root to improve your battery life, i'm achieving 5hr SOT easily with brightness 50%, AOD on and resolution WQHD+, all you need is to disable some of the preinstalled packages, do a bit of research to find out which ones can be disabled without a risk, then you will be good to go pm me if you need an assistance
I think your battery preformance is most likely to some apps or how you use it, I can say from expariance and experemanting with my S8+ that SOT and battery over all can shift.
I haven't rooted since im using samsung pay and haven't had a real need for root yet. but have tried a couple of diff apps and tests to max my battery but found that non off it really saves battery, quite the opposite.
I have tried substrantium to go all black in the phone (cus we have Amoled) but my battery life got worse
tried nova launcer to get some preformance boost and also black down the theme, but nova still suffers from battey drain issues (had same problem with my HTC10)
have disabled alot of services like bixby etc with BK Plugin. but made no big diff.
So after having the phone since launch and mixing and matching stuff to see if I could squeese a little more life out of an already good phone, I got to conclution that Samsung has done a good job in optimizing the S8+.
The stock launcher is fast and efficent, the built in "cleaning" program works well in shuting down unused apps etc. and running the phone with no extras and not tweking anything special or trying to get the phone as black as possible, I can go about 2 full days with normal use.
If you have the Snapdragon, battery life will decrease, by 20%.
I switched from a Verizon S8 to an unlocked S8+ and imo not having any of the added bloatware makes a difference. On my S8 I could make it through a whole day but my battery would be down under 10%. I know the S8 plus has a bigger battery but I go to bed with 30-40% of battery life.
I run my phone starting at 4:45am with a gym work out and I'm in bed by 11pm. My usage is mostly lte except for when I'm home. My SOT is always 5 hours or more.
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Hi, everyone!
I've been using Google''s cellphones since Nexus 4. For me, Nexus and Pixels are what a "real" Android phone should be. Until I bought the Pixel 3 XL.
The camera is great, the notch does not bother me at all. The body of the thing is nice. But there's is something that simply drive me mad and makes me fell like I will smash it on the floor any of these days.
The battery. The FREAKING BATTERY!
After almost a year since I bought the phone, the battery is the thing that I HATE SINCE DAY ONE! It's literaly garbage. As a normal user (don't have any kind of social network, except Whatsapp), I use the phone just for check e-mails, make some calls, some videos at YouTube, etc., and the phone barely holds until the end of the day WITH 4 HOURS OF SCREEN TIME, and look, IT TAKES ALMOST 2 HOURS TO CHARGE!
Updates came and go, and always the same [email protected]#$%% I have no other word to describe it besides this one. CRA!#$%%!#$
I've tried EVERYTHING, every tip on XDA and every relevant video on YouTube and NOTHING! Google's adaptative battery is HUGE lie. Digital Wellbeing as well. Finally, I tried to turn off the data and let only the wi-fi on and a miracle occurs. The phone sudenlly stops to drain 3/4% per hour in indle and pass to 0.5/1% per hour. The phone holds 52 hours with +/-4 hours os screen time with few minutes with data on (I live in a small town and everyplace that I go have Wi-Fi, only use data when I don't have).
This miracle lasted for a short time (12 days +/-). The drain stars again WITH THE DATA TURNED OFF.
To conclude, theres no tip, no tweak, no kernel, no custom ROM, no witchcraft, NOTHING THAT MAKES THIS INFERNAL BATTERY HAVE A DECENT LIFE! It's a crap! Googles sell us a crap with a crappy tecnology named as "adaptive battery".
Save yourselfs for a head ache. Do not spend mental health looking for solutions where there are none.
Sorry for all of these caps, but I really need to vent with someone.
Thank you for your time and let the ban hammer smash's my face!
Rafsxd said:
Hi, everyone!
I've been using Google''s cellphones since Nexus 4. For me, Nexus and Pixels are what a "real" Android phone should be. Until I bought the Pixel 3 XL.
The camera is great, the notch does not bother me at all. The body of the thing is nice. But there's is something that simply drive me mad and makes me fell like I will smash it on the floor any of these days.
The battery. The FREAKING BATTERY!
After almost a year since I bought the phone, the battery is the thing that I HATE SINCE DAY ONE! It's literaly garbage. As a normal user (don't have any kind of social network, except Whatsapp), I use the phone just for check e-mails, make some calls, some videos at YouTube, etc., and the phone barely holds until the end of the day WITH 4 HOURS OF SCREEN TIME, and look, IT TAKES ALMOST 2 HOURS TO CHARGE!
Updates came and go, and always the same [email protected]#$%% I have no other word to describe it besides this one. CRA!#$%%!#$
I've tried EVERYTHING, every tip on XDA and every relevant video on YouTube and NOTHING! Google's adaptative battery is HUGE lie. Digital Wellbeing as well. Finally, I tried to turn off the data and let only the wi-fi on and a miracle occurs. The phone sudenlly stops to drain 3/4% per hour in indle and pass to 0.5/1% per hour. The phone holds 52 hours with +/-4 hours os screen time with few minutes with data on (I live in a small town and everyplace that I go have Wi-Fi, only use data when I don't have).
This miracle lasted for a short time (12 days +/-). The drain stars again WITH THE DATA TURNED OFF.
To conclude, theres no tip, no tweak, no kernel, no custom ROM, no witchcraft, NOTHING THAT MAKES THIS INFERNAL BATTERY HAVE A DECENT LIFE! It's a crap! Googles sell us a crap with a crappy tecnology named as "adaptive battery".
Save yourselfs for a head ache. Do not spend mental health looking for solutions where there are none.
Sorry for all of these caps, but I really need to vent with someone.
Thank you for your time and let the ban hammer smash's my face!
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I don't get it. I am not specifically referring to you, but to the continued obsession with battery numbers. I get that back in the day the batteries would swell, the chargers sucked and you expected to get at least 3 years out of a phone. I obsessed over battery stats for years, never let it go under 20% or over 80% and did every power saving trick ever to massage the numbers. Now, I unplug it in the morning after a reboot and full charge and plug it in before I fall asleep typically with between 30 and 50 percent after a normal pretty hard day of use (while limiting the things that are wasting my time with alerts). Once on and once off every day. I don't remember the last time I had to charge mid day.
sliding_billy said:
I don't get it. I am not specifically referring to you, but to the continued obsession with battery numbers. I get that back in the day the batteries would swell, the chargers sucked and you expected to get at least 3 years out of a phone. I obsessed over battery stats for years, never let it go under 20% or over 80% and did every power saving trick ever to massage the numbers. Now, I unplug it in the morning after a reboot and full charge and plug it in before I fall asleep typically with between 30 and 50 percent after a normal pretty hard day of use (while limiting the things that are wasting my time with alerts). Once on and once off every day. I don't remember the last time I had to charge mid day.
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It's not about the numbers. It does not get in my head the fact that a person who don't use social networks, don't use much data, don't play games at phone have a poor battery life like mine. I mean, the adaptative battery suppose to learn how I use my phone and spend life time according to my use. I'm not a heavy user, BY FAR! It's not ask too much for better life time. I mean, the phones suppose to evolve not to involute. This battery is the worst of the whole line. Since galaxy nexus until now. I'm very disappointed. Really. The point of my post is only to talk a a little with you guys, and, makes me fell better. I'm not searching for a solution, because it does not exists and I have to live with that.
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It's not about the numbers. It does not get in my head the fact that a person who don't use social networks, don't use much data, don't play games at phone have a poor battery life like mine. I mean, the adaptative battery suppose to learn how I use my phone and spend life time according to my use. I'm not a heavy user, BY FAR! It's not ask too much for better life time. I mean, the phones suppose to evolve not to involute. This battery is the worst of the whole line. Since galaxy nexus until now. I'm very disappointed. Really. The point of my post is only to talk a a little with you guys, and, makes me fell better. I'm not searching for a solution, because it does not exists and I have to live with that.
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I just don't see it getting better. The phones are expected to look, sound and feel so much better than they used to. The apps are garbage childish code for the most part, and the core code isn't much better. I just make the best of it now.
I consistently get 4-5 hours SOT with 20-24 hours standby and use social media apps and lots of data. Sounds like you need to fine tune your settings and check wake locks, my device is just as old
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I consistently get 4-5 hours SOT with 20-24 hours standby and use social media apps and lots of data. Sounds like you need to fine tune your settings and check wake locks, my device is just as old
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Prints or never happened. Don't think bad of me, but I simply can't trust you without proofs. Pixel made me a skeptic.
Like I said, I don't use social medias, don't play games. And what wakelocks/settings I suppose to check?
I can get 3 and a halfs days standby if i just unplug and leave it, not touching it at all. With moderate use , downloading and updating apps, twitter constantly tweeting, facebook constantly facebooking, periscope instagram, windows phone app for notifications on my pc from phone, batterlife flips between 2days 5 hours and 2 days 9 hours. If i was to make phone calls for 30 mins it would drop to 1 day 23 hours but soon goes back up. Just to note, when i first got the phone, i would loose 1to2% every few mins, resulting in 18 hours standby, did some research and my own diagnosis, i stopped it from doing it.
I wake up at 8am. I plug my phone into Android auto on the way to work, and I'm at work at 9am with a full charge.
I play Spotify on the shop radio until about 12:30 religiously every morning via wired cord.
I go-to lunch and browse social, watch some videos, and play a game or two (asphalt or td5).
Get back to work and turn on YouTube music or pandora for the rest of the work day while occasionally using camera and social.
I get off work and usually hop on the bike with my BT on. I usually get home around 10-11 after getting food/socializing/stunting with 15ish percent
I average probably about 4.5 hours SOT.
Settings report "full charge last about 23 hours, 15 minutes.
I recently used my Nexus for a bit, and left my pixel on the counter with no sim, only wifi connection. Phone went on 3 days standby.
My battery is nothing to complain about. You may just be a victim of the old "silicon lottery".
Im 99% sure after alot of diagnosis, it down to device health services not doing its job, it literally freezes why phone in stanby and starts to make the phone produce heat, you can tell straight away if your device is affected, by the heat after leaving it in stand-by.
Rafsxd said:
Hi, everyone!
I've been using Google''s cellphones since Nexus 4. For me, Nexus and Pixels are what a "real" Android phone should be. Until I bought the Pixel 3 XL.
The camera is great, the notch does not bother me at all. The body of the thing is nice. But there's is something that simply drive me mad and makes me fell like I will smash it on the floor any of these days.
The battery. The FREAKING BATTERY!
After almost a year since I bought the phone, the battery is the thing that I HATE SINCE DAY ONE! It's literaly garbage. As a normal user (don't have any kind of social network, except Whatsapp), I use the phone just for check e-mails, make some calls, some videos at YouTube, etc., and the phone barely holds until the end of the day WITH 4 HOURS OF SCREEN TIME, and look, IT TAKES ALMOST 2 HOURS TO CHARGE!
Updates came and go, and always the same [email protected]#$%% I have no other word to describe it besides this one. CRA!#$%%!#$
I've tried EVERYTHING, every tip on XDA and every relevant video on YouTube and NOTHING! Google's adaptative battery is HUGE lie. Digital Wellbeing as well. Finally, I tried to turn off the data and let only the wi-fi on and a miracle occurs. The phone sudenlly stops to drain 3/4% per hour in indle and pass to 0.5/1% per hour. The phone holds 52 hours with +/-4 hours os screen time with few minutes with data on (I live in a small town and everyplace that I go have Wi-Fi, only use data when I don't have).
This miracle lasted for a short time (12 days +/-). The drain stars again WITH THE DATA TURNED OFF.
To conclude, theres no tip, no tweak, no kernel, no custom ROM, no witchcraft, NOTHING THAT MAKES THIS INFERNAL BATTERY HAVE A DECENT LIFE! It's a crap! Googles sell us a crap with a crappy tecnology named as "adaptive battery".
Save yourselfs for a head ache. Do not spend mental health looking for solutions where there are none.
Sorry for all of these caps, but I really need to vent with someone.
Thank you for your time and let the ban hammer smash's my face!
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You should RMA with Google. I recently have because I was having an early shutdown issue with my battery, but if you can prove it is your battery that is worse than others then Google can be understanding and send you a new one. Just fyi, I went through chat in the settings on my p3xl and only texted them. They were very accommodating and the RMA process was simple. Also my phone never takes longer than an hour to fully charge even from a low % with the cord that was shipped with the phone. Battery issues are a problem with Google phones.
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Im 99% sure after alot of diagnosis, it down to device health services not doing its job, it literally freezes why phone in stanby and starts to make the phone produce heat, you can tell straight away if your device is affected, by the heat after leaving it in stand-by.
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Dude I read your thread about the device health. Besides I had never update it, sounds like nonsense to me at all. I'm sorry.
Bryanx86 said:
You should RMA with Google. I recently have because I was having an early shutdown issue with my battery, but if you can prove it is your battery that is worse than others then Google can be understanding and send you a new one. Just fyi, I went through chat in the settings on my p3xl and only texted them. They were very accommodating and the RMA process was simple. Also my phone never takes longer than an hour to fully charge even from a low % with the cord that was shipped with the phone. Battery issues are a problem with Google phones.
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The problem is that I live in Brazil.
It's too expensive RMA it. The taxes here in my country is too high. Waiting for the Pixel 4.
I'm interested in the battery difference between iphone 13 pro max and s22 ultra. I now take out with s22 ultra 5-6 hours of screen on time max but in fhd +. If I play pubg, it takes 3 and a half hours without stopping. Is the battery difference so big for the heavy user? Can someone give me some screen statistics on time in heavy use, in games but also in normal use youtube, instagram, fb ... I'm thinking of returning s22 ultra and taking 13 pro max because I'm not very satisfied with the battery s22 ultra. But if the difference is 1 hour then it's not worth the exchange ... I am very dissapointed. I paid $ 1500 for a phone and charged it 2x a day. I do not agree to compromise at 1500% I want to receive what I paid. 120hz -wqhd ... I barely have 5-6 hours screen on time with all apps in deep sleep, 30-40 brightness, fullhd +, location off, 5g off .. Is there any solution ?? this is the exynos variant. Except for the battery, the phone is superb.
I get 14-16 h of total battery life with 3-4 h screen on time, not a heavy use, just some light web browsing, mostly Google Now feed, as well as 2h of Spotify over Bluetooth
giosal said:
I get 14-16 h of total battery life with 3-4 h screen on time, not a heavy use, just some light web browsing, mostly Google Now feed, as well as 2h of Spotify over Bluetooth
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I get similar results using the exynos variant. My phone uses 20-25% battery per hour for things like social media (Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat) and browsing/YouTube (FHD+ 120fps). I've seen people getting more than 6 hours screen-on-time with S22 Ultra, but I don't understand how they achieve it. The phone is great, but I am pretty disappointed by the battery life.
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I get similar results using the exynos variant. My phone uses 20-25% battery per hour for things like social media (Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat) and browsing/YouTube (FHD+ 120fps). I've seen people getting more than 6 hours screen-on-time with S22 Ultra, but I don't understand how they achieve it. The phone is great, but I am pretty disappointed by the battery life.
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Thanks for the confirmation. For me, it looks power consumption optimization issues, either hardware, software, or both. Let's hope that software optimization helps in the future
giosal said:
Thanks for the confirmation. For me, it looks power consumption optimization issues, either hardware, software, or both. Let's hope that software optimization helps in the future
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The thing is that I've been using an S21 Ultra until last month (for the last 5 months). Its battery life was similar with the S22 Ultra I am using now, but slightly worse. I was intrigued by such poor battery life and I brought it to the Samsung Service (device was under warranty). After 2-3 days of service time, they fully refunded my S21 Ultra and I upgraded to the S22 Ultra. I really don't know what to think now, if this battery usage on my S22 Ultra is normal or if there are any problems with it....I can get with it through one day, but, again, I am intrigued that others are getting much better battery life results than me (about 10-15% per hour of screen-on-time).
I think most people on here are getting better battery life due to app usage, debloating, deep sleeping apps and dark mode with amoled wallpapers. I also believe that the device care doesn't give accurate screen on time. Sometimes i would use my device for 10min and when i check screen on time it doesn't refresh immediately.
We have to remember that this panel is brighter and a lot more vivid that what we've had before.
My suggestion if you're not into doing a device reset. Uninstall and then reinstall your apps.
I did this with Facebook and i have seen an improvement. Also i keep seeing apps that are recommended for sleep due to high battery usage and you wont believe some of the apps.
Guys, just monitor and keep all your apps up to date.
readymarc said:
I think most people on here are getting better battery life due to app usage, debloating, deep sleeping apps and dark mode with amoled wallpapers. I also believe that the device care doesn't give accurate screen on time. Sometimes i would use my device for 10min and when i check screen on time it doesn't refresh immediately.
We have to remember that this panel is brighter and a lot more vivid that what we've had before.
My suggestion if you're not into doing a device reset. Uninstall and then reinstall your apps.
I did this with Facebook and i have seen an improvement. Also i keep seeing apps that are recommended for sleep due to high battery usage and you wont believe some of the apps.
Guys, just monitor and keep all your apps up to date.
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Going through your apps and weeding out those that burn through your battery is very important. As an example, I was using Google News app perusing some articles for about 30-40 minutes. Since I use DuckDuckGo with app tracking I later found that during that 1 session the Google News app sent 1401 tracking messages behind the scene. Lots of apps do these types of things and more, especially social media apps.