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How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
No ETA pls
Let's wait
funkyblue04 said:
Hello All
How long does it usually take for root Without Unlocking the Bootloader to come out?
This is the only reason I have not purchased this phone yet.
So frustrated there will be no decent normal sized Nexus 6 and the Z3 loses camera features when unlocked ?
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There is no "usual" number. Some phones got root before they were even out officially. Some took a few days. Some took over a month. And some end up retired without a safe root option.
First rule of xda: don't ask for eta
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
funkyblue04 said:
I know that. Just another frustration with android. We need more Nexus phones!
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I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
I like to be about to restore all my data and apps with Titanium Backup. So much easier.
wolf0491 said:
I have nothing but force closes when restoring with titanium unless the ROM is very similar anyway. Like I was using AOSP on my Z before so I just came in fresh. Less issues down the road
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I've never had an issue switching ROM's being careful to avoid system apps and only restoring the call logs and SMS database, as well as non-system apps.
Everyone is different ☺ I also do nightly backups and sync with Dropbox.
Shudder123 said:
I never thought I could use this phone without root but it turns out I'm wrong. Not really seeing any need for it at the present moment
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Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
Would love to see root but for now I can manage quite fine without it... There is less bloatware then with certain other brands and you can uninstall or disable quite a bit.
The few things I WOULD like:
* Completely remove unused system apps
* Change LCD Density (it's all soooo big now)
* Full SDCard read/write access for all apps. (I love quickpic as a gallery, but because I save my pics/vids to sdcard it can not remove anything now)
* Titanium backup. Have never ever had issues with this (only user apps+data for me most of the time) and that's with switching between different roms, brands, aosp/stock, etc... Never failed me
Chefproll said:
Never thought of using adblockers like AdAway, preventing a total waste of mobile data for loading unwanted ads which easily consume ten times the data needed ?
Never thought of kicking out bloatware also wasting your ressources ?
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
cschmitt said:
ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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Not to mention Xposed and everything it offers.
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ABP doesn't require root and all of the bloat apps can be uninstalled or disabled / blocked using package manager.
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ABP (please call it "Adblock Plus" so every readers knows what's meant) does not require root, but it's not too capable running under Android. It does a brilliant job with FireFox and Windows, but the Android implementation only captures a fracture of annoying ads. And: No plugin for defining your own black lists under Android.
AdAway additionally removes annoying ads from a wealth of apps. Just doesn't work without root.
Ok, I can hear you: "If everybody uses that means, app developers won't get paid."
Yes, that's correct.
But:
a) If I really like an app, I'll buy it. Example: Poweramp. NO ads, no annoyance. It just stops working after some time. I regard that as ok. I do NOT like apps getting on my nerves all the time.
My formula is simple: Annoying ads = deinstall, no purchase.
b) A majority of free app developers uses that "evil" ads, appearing at places previously occupied by regular buttons - so you tap on them although you just don't want to.
If that bad behavior gets to a stop, I'll think about disabling AdAway again. Fair play - but on BOTH sides.
What is different in security for cyanogenmod and normal android?
Is cyanogenmod has google spyware?
Thank you
arexium said:
What is different in security for cyanogenmod and normal android?
Is cyanogenmod has google spyware?
Thank you
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No, cyanogenmod does not have google apps. For more info: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps
Even if they don't use google apps, they have their own spyware. For more how to secure your device see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/tuto-how-to-secure-phone-t2960077
setmov said:
No, cyanogenmod does not have google apps. For more info: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps
Even if they don't use google apps, they have their own spyware. For more how to secure your device see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/tuto-how-to-secure-phone-t2960077
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This hard for apply and may be not work for my phone
You know easy way?
You thinks not use smart phone and also not use android better?
Only normal phone and for internet only use computer?
Different idea, if you have only text secure app on phone and cyanogenmod how they spy and see message?
Thank you
arexium said:
This hard for apply and may be not work for my phone
You know easy way?
You thinks not use smart phone and also not use android better?
Only normal phone and for internet only use computer?
Different idea, if you have only text secure app on phone and cyanogenmod how they spy and see message?
Thank you
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I suggest you take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550769
setmov said:
I suggest you take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550769
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This good, I check it
What you think this one please, Replicant OS?
arexium said:
This good, I check it
What you think this one please, Replicant OS?
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What phone do you have?
setmov said:
What phone do you have?
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This lenovo a5000
What you think Replicant OS, good one? I changes phone if this good one
arexium said:
This lenovo a5000
What you think Replicant OS, good one? I changes phone if this good one
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Honestly I haven't tried it, so I don't know. But, what are you looking for? A secure rom, or just a rom without google apps?
setmov said:
Honestly I haven't tried it, so I don't know. But, what are you looking for? A secure rom, or just a rom without google apps?
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Yes I want secure ROM even if not work on my phone, I can change phone
arexium said:
Yes I want secure ROM even if not work on my phone, I can change phone
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Then, I suggest you to be patient. There will be some news soon.
try AFWall Donate version, XPrivacy, AppOps, MyAndroidTools Pro, ChatSecure, Orbot, Network Connections or Network Log App in playstore, override DNS app, SD Maid, Firefox browser...these are all good apps known for supporting end-user privacy or for strong root level management of your system. It really depends on what type of "secure" youre interested in. Android is relatively secure security-wise, but privacy-wise, not so much... actually in its default state, not at all, especially with google inside. Knowing your settings, and config, almost any ROM can be secure.
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Yes I want secure ROM even if not work on my phone, I can change phone
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If you are willing to switch to a Nexus 5 we (Graphite Software) have posted a ROM (Secure Spaces) that allows you to create a separate space (virtual phone) where you can easily configure the settings (enable and disable a number of attributes - bluetooth , networking, adb, etc). Also you can remove the Google Play apps in this personal or hidden space, but allow the owner space to still have Google Apps if you want. This new space is encrypted using ecryptfs and also has pid namespaces enabled in the kernel, plus some additional security features. You can push apps into this space to limit their access to the owner space , or you can think of this space as a private space where maybe you launch only a banking app for example.
ElwOOd_CbGp said:
try AFWall Donate version, XPrivacy, AppOps, MyAndroidTools Pro, ChatSecure, Orbot, Network Connections or Network Log App in playstore, override DNS app, SD Maid, Firefox browser...these are all good apps known for supporting end-user privacy or for strong root level management of your system. It really depends on what type of "secure" youre interested in. Android is relatively secure security-wise, but privacy-wise, not so much... actually in its default state, not at all, especially with google inside. Knowing your settings, and config, almost any ROM can be secure.
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Sounds like a good start to helping secure my android, but how do you use the apps effectively?
Thanks
talkcc144 said:
Sounds like a good start to helping secure my android, but how do you use the apps effectively?
Thanks
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All I can say is do what I did. Check them out. Read, follow instructions, experiment. Android may come shipped with some functionalities disabled but the capability is there...in a major way. You just have to take the time to learn. Familiarize yourself with settings, apps, services, device signals.
Anyone managed to find a working safe package disabler? I feel all this bloatware is whats really killing my battery even tho I disabled &got rid of what I could. And even turned off the features I wouldn't be using that constantly drain. But I think the processes are still running for example the fingerprint process which I refuse to even use. I'd love to root but I think the tmobile s7 has been done yet.
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
sbdadmak said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294
Free.
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That one requires root though.
0dBu said:
That one requires root though.
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It works without root, it just doesn't remove them and instead only disables.
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
AndroiderM said:
Package Disabler Pro $2 in playstore
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It got taken down at this time
nest75068 said:
It got taken down at this time
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Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
mknewman said:
The built in one (under applications, DIsable) works fine and uninstalls all the updates so you regain any memory you've lost. I've disabled several including Lookout and and T-Mobile NameID and TV.
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It should be noted, that NO, THE BUILT IN ONE does not work fine, and while you mentioned the other tmobile apps, you (probably intentionally) didn't mention the terrible, disable-proof, insulting, MEMORY INTENSIVE harassment of code that is the pointless T mobile "my account" app, with its system monitoring, and permanent notifications you have to jump through hoops to disable.
The fact that I have 200 MORE Samsung apps that I'm forced to run than my vanilla android counter parts is almost as insulting as the fact that Facebook, (and messenger), whatsapp, 5 pointless t mobile apps (2 of which are trials for premium paid features) are considered equally important and can't be uninstalled.
Thats purely asinine, and the watered down built in version does nothing about the services or dependent processes (aka battery consumption and everything else)
The T mobile hidden package "com.tmobile.pr.adapt" is so invasive that it quietly asks for root, the SECOND it detects the binary and DOES SO AGAIN AND AGAIN, OVER AND OVER without us ever getting an explanation...now it even shows up in marshmallow with data usage access... the only reason we know it even exists, or wants root, is supersu pops up, as our battery bottoms out...
Now, package disabler pro is gone from the store..oh wait...is it? Or is it just gone for Samsung devices? Or maybe just T Mobile, Samsung devices? Hrrmmm
No. The built in watered down version which doesn't help us with a package like tmobile.pr.adapt or let us disable every single thing we choose to, is simply NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
flyingwolf said:
Look again.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
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It's only gone for certain devices...
My Account is not enabled on my S7 unless I start it up myself. The com.tmobile.pr.adapt is enabled but if you disable Diagnostics under App Settings in T-Mobile for me it uses very little data, 14mb in almost a month for me, and T-Mo claims that the usage is not charged to you. You are correct you cannot stop it with the default application manager, but it will not show up in the task bar unless you manually start it.
I'm not going to get into root issues, my phone is on the Jump on Demand so I'm planning to trade up every few months and yeah root is nice but for the most part unless you are a dev (I am not) you shouldn't need it. I'd love to have my copy of Root Explorer and Titanium Backup work (for restores) but can get along without it. If I really needed that stuff I wouldn't have given up my Sony Xperia Z Ultra which was running CM to go to a new unrooted platform.
Hi,
I have been using EZ package disabler since I got my S7 Edge and I am happy with it. Unfortunately, when the software update came, with too much excitement, I forgot to enable all disabled apps prior to updating the firmware. I have updated the firmware with apps disabled. What problem should I be facing? What should I do? Currently I am not experiencing any problems but I suspect that the disabled apps where not optimized. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.
You can still find package disabler pro. Won't post the link because forum rules but Google is your best friend. I have it in my SD card.
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How to completely delete stock apps from Galaxy S8 without root access, like Microsoft apps last night I was trying to remove Excel and Powerpoint but I couldn't, looks weird!
Without root you can use the well known app Package Disabler Pro Samsung:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Apps are disabled (removing is not possible) but disappear completely.
themissionimpossible said:
Without root you can use the well known app Package Disabler Pro Samsung:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Apps are disabled (removing is not possible) but disappear completely.
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They will still takes up space yeah?
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These apps are in the system partition and take space there.
Disabling them also doesn't stop them getting updated by "Galaxy Apps". I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps! (and if that wasn't bad enough, it was using up my mobile data allowance when doing it!!).
ewokuk said:
I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps!
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You have to permanently disable the Samsung Push Service (the first thing I do), and disable Galaxy Apps and enable it only when needed....
itsmohsink said:
How to completely delete stock apps from Galaxy S8 without root access, like Microsoft apps last night I was trying to remove Excel and Powerpoint but I couldn't, looks weird!
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You can't remove any stock apps without root access. If you can root your S8 then Download Lucky Patcher Apk and you can remove unnecessary stock apps.
ewokuk said:
Disabling them also doesn't stop them getting updated by "Galaxy Apps". I had powerpoint and word updating themselves yesterday despite the fact I have them both disabled *AND* have turned off automatic updates in Galaxy Apps! (and if that wasn't bad enough, it was using up my mobile data allowance when doing it!!).
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I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
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I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
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I don't understand either. no, if I was rooted then those apps wouldn't even be on the phone! I haven't spotted it lately so it may have been a bug or something that was fixed (of course Samsung as usual can't be bothered providing proper changelogs so that we have a clue what they have done), but they don't update that often so it might also be that I just didn't see it when it was doing it.
try this one. apps will still take up place in system partition,
but I don't think they will auto update after this.
https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/
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I don't understand how they're able to update on your phone even with the option disabled. Since buying my phone two weeks ago I've seen either Samsung apps asking to be updating before being used or the app shows as update is available but never updating on tis own without my permission. You got a rooted phone, or something?
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I don't understand either. no, if I was rooted then those apps wouldn't even be on the phone! I haven't spotted it lately so it may have been a bug or something that was fixed (of course Samsung as usual can't be bothered providing proper changelogs so that we have a clue what they have done), but they don't update that often so it might also be that I just didn't see it when it was doing it.
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I have quite a few packages disabled with Package Disabler Pro and have had two system updates without an issue.
ggrant3876 said:
I have quite a few packages disabled with Package Disabler Pro and have had two system updates without an issue.
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That's strange. Also, I'm not using any package disablers. Maybe that's related? The app you're using?
roaduardo said:
That's strange. Also, I'm not using any package disablers. Maybe that's related? The app you're using?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
Hi I'm looking for a list for disabling some apps,there was one around before where it gave a brief info of what the app did and if it was safe to remove or not but I cannot find it anywhere does anyone have a copy thanks
Also I've paid for package dissabler Pro and ccswe but both have stopped working is there a good alternative
Thanks
might provide a good start
Note 9 debloat bash script
Hello, So basically I wanted to de-bloat my note 9, but also understand what I am removing and avoid some troublesome packages. So I looked at the packages from sea-wa's Note9 and S9 Bloatware Removal Threads (thank you sea-wa) and try to find...
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You really should take the time/trouble to learn what a apk does and what happens (dependencies) when you do.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Some apps are best firewall blocked rather than package blocked; Karma Firewall, Playstore.
raul6 said:
might provide a good start
Note 9 debloat bash script
Hello, So basically I wanted to de-bloat my note 9, but also understand what I am removing and avoid some troublesome packages. So I looked at the packages from sea-wa's Note9 and S9 Bloatware Removal Threads (thank you sea-wa) and try to find...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Thanks I'll take a look I remember seeing a excel format type list a while back been trying to find that one but cannot seem to find it lol
blackhawk said:
You really should take the time/trouble to learn what a apk does and what happens (dependencies) when you do.
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Some apps are best firewall blocked rather than package blocked; Karma Firewall, Playstore.
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Will this get stopped by knox license key like the others?
Thanks
brockyneo said:
Will this get stopped by knox license key like the others?
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Yes. It is actually PDP pro (what was linked) . Like ccswe it is a dependant on Samsung deciding if the licencing terms have been broken and if so invalidating all the licences
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Will this get stopped by knox license key like the others?
Thanks
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Been using it for over 3 years, zero issues.
It can completely clear apk data/caches unlike when you do it in settings so it can repair system apks that otherwise would cost you a factory reset. A very useful tool.
It also has an interactive widget that allows you to toggle all checked apps on/off easily, very useful. The app uses little battery and can be firewall blocked once it's license has been activated.
It literally is the first app I load after a factory reset
blackhawk said:
It also has an interactive widget that allows you to toggle all checked apps on/off easily, very useful. The app uses little battery and can be firewall blocked once it's license has been activated.
It literally is the first app I load after a factory reset
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I'll get it bought so if the key runs out do I just go back onto the Web site and buy a new key? I've just factory reset my device as I fancied a fresh install and the first thing I try to do is disable all the apps I don't use lol
brockyneo said:
I'll get it bought so if the key runs out do I just go back onto the Web site and buy a new key? I've just factory reset my device as I fancied a fresh install and the first thing I try to do is disable all the apps I don't use lol
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Last reload it updated its license automatically I believe. Either way it wasn't hard or eventful to do.
As useful as it is on one of my reloads I simply just repurchased it to expedite matters. The 10+ is an unusable mess without it
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Will this get stopped by knox license key like the others?
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Haven't had any issue with my license so far, been using it for 4-5 months now. I personally like it better than the adb method because you can disable and reenable on the fly.
ggrant3876 said:
Haven't had any issue with my license so far, been using it for 4-5 months now. I personally like it better than the adb method because you can disable and reenable on the fly.
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Just be careful as it's active even in safe mode.
The -only- way to disable PD MDM is in Device administrator apps.
If you disable a system apk that's needed to boot and you reboot you're boned.
I never had that kind of issue but keep it in mind.
blackhawk said:
Just be careful as it's active even in safe mode.
The -only- way to disable PD MDM is in Device administrator apps.
If you disable a system apk that's needed to boot and you reboot you're boned.
I never had that kind of issue but keep it in mind.
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Been doing this for years with zero problems. The note 10+ and Note 20 Ultra are the only 2 phones I haven't rooted. If you didn't have to pay to unlock the bootloader I'd do the Note 20.
ggrant3876 said:
Been doing this for years with zero problems. The note 10+ and Note 20 Ultra are the only 2 phones I haven't rooted. If you didn't have to pay to unlock the bootloader I'd do the Note 20.
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Lol, ever get the "Android kernel has stopped" message?
It's rare but oh ever so fun
Hasn't happened with my current disabler or on the 10+ but damn...
As the flash rate increases it becomes quit a challenge to deactivate.
Androids are a riot