Question Power off/Battery drops - Sony Xperia 5 III

I charge my phone to 90% or 80% each night, power off, and go to sleep. The next morning when I power on the battery has dropped 2%. I would appear the phone is doing something when the power is allegedly turned off.
What's happening? Is there actually a way to turn if OFF?

just put it to airplane mode and compare it.

Okay. First I'll do A/M with power on. Battery drops just like at night. I'll do A/M with power off tonight.

and why u not charging overnight

Uh, I don't won't to. It isn't required. I charge it to either 80% or 90%, power off, and go to bed. Why would I want to charge it all night? Last night I put it in airplane mode, charged it to 90%, power off, and went to bed. I turned it on this morning and it was at 88%. I'm just curious what it's doing overnight when it's in airplane mode and supposedly powered off. I don't know that it matters but I've had the phone since August 16th and I got it new.

than get use to it

I'm just curious. I contacted Sony Support today but since my issue isn't really a problem they didn't have much to offer. They were very courteous, though.

2% is "NOTHING" for an overnight drain. Please note that power off/on also consumes considerable power as it puts a load on the processor as it has to unload/load all the processes during that. My Sony phone loses 5% on an average per night and that is completely acceptable as it constantly works in the background (some apps keep refreshing every now and then, I also have poor network reception so that's also a consideration). I'd say: don't sweat too much and your phone's just fine!
On a side note, I also have a Samsung S22 Ultra that has an average 13-15% drain overnight.

anmolkakkar said:
2% is "NOTHING" for an overnight drain. Please note that power off/on also consumes considerable power as it puts a load on the processor as it has to unload/load all the processes during that. My Sony phone loses 5% on an average per night and that is completely acceptable as it constantly works in the background (some apps keep refreshing every now and then, I also have poor network reception so that's also a consideration). I'd say: don't sweat too much and your phone's just fine!
On a side note, I also have a Samsung S22 Ultra that has an average 13-15% drain overnight.
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Thanks. I wasn't worried as much as curious. Since I don't do games, music videos, or Facebook my battery isn't a worry. Just a curiosity. If I lost 15% in a night with power off I'd wonder if my phone was moonlighting as an Uber driver.

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What's the deal with my battery?

So often, before I go to bed, I would charge up the phone completely and turn it off. 8 hours later, I turn it on, and the battery is at 70~80 ish.
Yesterday however, I just put the phone on airplane mode without turning it off, thinking it might make a difference. I woke up and the battery was 99%.
WTF?
aceofserenity said:
So often, before I go to bed, I would charge up the phone completely and turn it off. 8 hours later, I turn it on, and the battery is at 70~80 ish.
Yesterday however, I just put the phone on airplane mode without turning it off, thinking it might make a difference. I woke up and the battery was 99%.
WTF?
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Because when you turn on airplane mode, you turn off radio, wifi, etc about signal and data. It is about 50-70% power consumption. Consequently, when data is cut off, apps that needs to update via data, either wifi or mobile, won't update. That is another less stress on the battery. So on and so forth.
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Well that's weird cause I put my phone on sleep last night without airplane mode and with 3g on, and it went from 90% to 87% by 7am. Maybe it has to do with low signal? I know when I have low signal my battery drops SUPER fast.
barqers said:
Well that's weird cause I put my phone on sleep last night without airplane mode and with 3g on, and it went from 90% to 87% by 7am. Maybe it has to do with low signal? I know when I have low signal my battery drops SUPER fast.
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yes it is a factor. Same issue i have, low signal at home.
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You totally failed to understand my problem. I'm saying airplane mode with phone ON consumes LESS battery than turning the phone completely OFF
aceofserenity said:
You totally failed to understand my problem. I'm saying airplane mode with phone ON consumes LESS battery than turning the phone completely OFF
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I completely misunderstood your problem. Hmmm, in THAT case only thing I can think of is the phone not being shutdown properly. Aka the phone got stuck in a low level state with the screen off/unresponsive but maybe the phone was still processing network information. Then when you turned it on, you shut it off and turned it back on without really noticing.
That, or the FBI has been tracking you in the night.
We still didn't answer his question! Its weird that the battery is getting drained with the phone completely off.
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aceofserenity said:
You totally failed to understand my problem. I'm saying airplane mode with phone ON consumes LESS battery than turning the phone completely OFF
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How about telling us also what rom/kernel you are using?
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I had an issue with my phone charging, it would take about 18 hours to charge the battery completely. Turned out the cord had gotten screwed up somehow. Also if you're using a USB extention cable, if you use more than one it will do something similar.
Charge your phone, turn it off, remove the battery and check if it still looses power.. so we will know if it s a battery problem or phone drainage problem
1. rom/kernel: cm 7.1.0.1, default cm7 kernel
2. update: second night with this Rom, and when i turned it off and on again 8 hrs later, it was 91%. Not bad.
3. I have charged full> powered down> removed battery> 8hrs later> insert battery & power ON, battery is full.
4. Computer USB charging takes probably over twice as long compared to using the outlet adapter.
I understand that phone goes into a low power state when it is turned "OFF", but really, what gives?
aceofserenity said:
1. rom/kernel: cm 7.1.0.1, default cm7 kernel
2. update: second night with this Rom, and when i turned it off and on again 8 hrs later, it was 91%. Not bad.
3. I have charged full> powered down> removed battery> 8hrs later> insert battery & power ON, battery is full.
4. Computer USB charging takes probably over twice as long compared to using the outlet adapter.
I understand that phone goes into a low power state when it is turned "OFF", but really, what gives?
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I have a feeling that the phone is not shutting off all the way. How about trying to shut down your phone, pull the battery, reinsert it, but DON'T turn your phone on and don't touch the power button at all, just reinsert it. Wait 8 hours, check it then.

I'm getting desperate with the whole battery situation

So I had the S6 last year and ended up returning it due to the poor battery performance. I ended up back on an iPhone. When the news of a larger battery and better chip performance come out for the S7 I was ready to jump back on the ANdroid bandwagon.
So fast forward. I just unplugged my phone at 100%. It's been a half hour and I'm already at 95%. I have to consistently keep the power save mode on to conserve battery. It's getting somewhat annoying because it screws up updates and notifications as well as some app don't work well.
I've tried conserving battery by shutting off certain features, keeping display brightness down etc while having power save mode off. It just seems that Android System is chewing through the battery. I don't know what the hell is doing it either.
I don't want to cripple the phone by keeping it on power save mode all the time. Does anyone have any recommendations that will help me or I might have to return this phone and ALL the free stuff I got with it.
Thanks
Half hour of use at 95%? Cus that's not bad at all. I'm consistently getting 5-7 hours of SoT.
I think OP meant half hour of standby because im experiencing the same type of battery drain. But even with this drain im getting about 10-12 hrs of moderate use with 4.5 hrs SoT
Turn AOD off. Let the battery run down... Turn off fast charge. Fully charged the phone. Don't disable anything else. Go through a couple cycles like this. You'll see a difference. Then use package Disabler pro and disable what you don't use. You'll be happy...
So for the hell of it I turned off location in the drop down menu so see how it affects battery life. I have been off the charger for about 2.5 hours now. I have used the phone here and there throughout that time. When it came off the charger it was at 98% and it's at 91% now.
That's 7 percent with use in 2.5 hours whereas before it lost 5% in a half hour on standby with no use.
What the hell is pinging location over and over? If you hold down the location drop down menu option the phone displays the apps that use location. All of them say low battery use.
Is there a way to set these up to only use location when the app is being used?
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What the hell is pinging location over and over?
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Probably this
https://www.google.com/maps/timeline
whelmar said:
Turn AOD off. Let the battery run down... Turn off fast charge. Fully charged the phone. Don't disable anything else. Go through a couple cycles like this. You'll see a difference. Then use package Disabler pro and disable what you don't use. You'll be happy...
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Is fast charge bad for the battery or something? I've gone through about 3 cycles with fast charge on and battery still isn't great. Hoping it will improve after about 3-4 more cycles
All I know is that it made a huge difference for me. I think that it's more of a battery calibration thing. It really doesn't take that much longer to charge the phone with fast charge off...

Battery draining super-fast, on an irregular basis: How to check real battery health?

Hi everyone,
I have a Leagoo T5c with a more-or-less 3,000 mAh non-removable battery, and for the past few month, battery life has been somewhat erratic. The phone would go from, say, 50% to 10% battery in no time, and I would get the low battery warning, but at other times it could hold at around 45% for a while before really going down for good.
Last night around 8pm my time, the phone went completely dead while the battery indicator in the task bar said I still had about 65% left.
I tried what's described here and there as battery calibration: I left the phone turned off, patiently waited a couple hours (yes, yes, that long) for the battery to reach 100%, then left the phone off for another hour before turning it on.
In a matter of minutes doing nothing more than checking my Twitter TL, the battery went from 100% to around 85%, and was still there went I tucked in for the night, leaving the phone in Airplane mode as I always do at night.
This morning, I turned Airplane mode off and the battery said it still had 82%, which means minimal drain during the night, with all radio off.
Just a few minutes ago, the phone went completely dead after the low battery warning, and the battery held less than 10% charge.
WiFi is off, cellular reception is very good where I live, and anyway, I don't see how LTE could kill 70% of the battery charge in less than half an hour, even if reception was spotty, which it's not.
I plugged the phone into the charger it came with, put it in Airplane mode again, and it went from 10% to 70% just now in less than 30 minutes.
I know for a fact that fast charge isn't supported on this phone, at least not with the OEM charger, plus it has micro-USB, so I doubt the charger can feed it that much juice in so little time.
The charger itself seems to work fine: It never gets hot while charging, not the Leagoo, nor my old iPhone 6, since I use it for both devices.
So, long story short, is there a way or tool to ***really*** know what state that battery is in? I've tried both DevCheck and CPU-Z, and both say that the battery is in good health, and still retains its nominal capacity of more or less 3,000 mAh, but I have my doubts about that.
I think the battery capacity is reduced somewhat, and I need to know by how much.
Any help and input would be much appreciated!
I must add that I flashed a stock ROM on this phone (yeah, again...) a few days ago, so maybe it's the ART cache being replenished that's causing my battery issues, but still, the problem is so inconsistant that I don't know anything anymore...
I had to flash the stock ROM again after trying (again...) to root the device (successful, but doesn't bring anything of value) and finding it barely responsive.
I'm gonna leave the phone as is, ROM-wise, but my battery is still a matter of concern, because it dies on me at the 60-65% mark more often than not, though two days ago I let it drop to 30% without the phone shutting down.
Like I said, it comes and goes. I really need to know if that battery still retains its nominal capacity or not. Any help in that regard would be most welcome...

Battery Just Dropped from 75% to 32%. In About Half an Hour.

According to the battery usage screen, about 15% of the battery has been used. And yet, it's in freefall. At 34% I got a low battery warning saying the battery would only last another three hours, even though it was dropping about 1% a minute.
Just randomly happened today. Left it unplugged overnight with Sleep as Android running, woke up to about 70% battery, started browsing on Chrome and Talon for Twitter, and 15 minutes later I had 20% battery. Plugged it in, got it back up to 75%, had to go out. Felt it get hot, checked, saw it was still dropping dramatically. Turned it off, left it to cool, turned it back on, and it continued dropping.
I had it turned off for a while to cool down after I'd plugged it in, as well.
Battery Usage does list Sleep as using 22% battery, but that's since the last full charge so I assume includes what it did overnight, which jives with having a percentage in the 70s when I awoke. Talon, Chrome, Facebook, TiBu, and a couple of other apps are listed as using 1-2% of the battery. That's it.
WTF is going on?
koberulz said:
According to the battery usage screen, about 15% of the battery has been used. And yet, it's in freefall. At 34% I got a low battery warning saying the battery would only last another three hours, even though it was dropping about 1% a minute.
Just randomly happened today. Left it unplugged overnight with Sleep as Android running, woke up to about 70% battery, started browsing on Chrome and Talon for Twitter, and 15 minutes later I had 20% battery. Plugged it in, got it back up to 75%, had to go out. Felt it get hot, checked, saw it was still dropping dramatically. Turned it off, left it to cool, turned it back on, and it continued dropping.
I had it turned off for a while to cool down after I'd plugged it in, as well.
Battery Usage does list Sleep as using 22% battery, but that's since the last full charge so I assume includes what it did overnight, which jives with having a percentage in the 70s when I awoke. Talon, Chrome, Facebook, TiBu, and a couple of other apps are listed as using 1-2% of the battery. That's it.
WTF is going on?
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I think the battery might need to be replaced...after I charged my phone to 100% and then reboot, it will show 69% or 70% after the reboot -_-|. Also when the battery % drops down below 50%, my phone could switch off anytime - and then when I switch it on again, the battery is like 1%. I am using this phone as a backup just to receive messages so I don't mind it too much. If you use it as a main phone maybe it is time to upgrade to a newer model...the battery on regular Pixels were not so good even when new...
When the phone is off charge it to 100% then use it until it dies completly, then try to start it couple of times(it should just show a battery low icon or turn off while booting). Then charge it to 100% again while turned off.
This should pretty much reset the electronics in the phone. If it still does it replace the battery.
P.S.: Also look at the phone from the sides to see if you notice any glass poping (just in case the battery has started to expand)

Question Phone is off, but battery is still draining

Is anyone experiencing a battery drain even though your S22 Ultra is switched off? I'm experiencing 4% drain every hour. 32% when every night when I sleep with my phone turned off.
I turn on power saving and extra dim using the bixby routine for the period that I'm in bed sleeping. It loses 1-2% ph
If you don't mind, can you try turning off your phone for the night and see how much battery percentage it loses? Mine went from 32% to flat 0% by morning. I had not realised this until recently. I tested in the morning by turning off my phone for an hour, it went from 60 to 54%. That's like 6% in an hour. But if I keep it on standby , it'll be 1% down in an hour. It's the turning off that is causing problems.
I know some laptops will drain battery power after shut down, but phone?
Exy or Snap?
Try checking in details with a battery monitoring app (e.g. GSam) to see what is/ are the culprit(s).
Also take a look at here for some useful tips.
It's strange that a lot of battery drain when phone is completly off.
In my opinion it's short circuit or battery is fault.
If phone is normal on are you see too battery drain?
When phone is switched off battery shouldn' experience any drain, or at least any noticeable drain in a short period.
Remember, when you bought your phone it came with battery half charged, and that was probably months after it was assembled and sealed in its package..
You should take your phone to a service or replace it, if possible
maybe somewhere on the PCB there is a short circuit. I ran into the same problem when using Xiaomi Mix 3 11 months ago.

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