Hey everyone, just wanted to run this by you guys to get an opinion and possibly some insight as to a few features that seem to be missing on the S6.
First off I have owned every Galaxy S device, from the old Vibrant to my current S6, also had a Note 3 and the beast phone Note 4 which my S6 replaced.
I received my S6 on April 2nd and have messed with it a lot to try and learn the ins and outs of it.
Now to the issue at hand, I do quite a lot of picture and video taking, the first thing I noticed is there is no "capture" feature in the video viewer settings which allow me to go frame by frame and snap a photo within the video, its an awesome feature and is very useful when wanting to capture a perfect shot you couldnt really capture with the camera shutter.
Second thing I just stumbled upon a few minutes ago, I took a 0:54 video in 4K but wanted to trim just the first and last few seconds . The trim editing tool took entirely waayyy too long (abour 3 minutes) after pressing export and not only that but it did not allow me to retain the 4K resolution, highest I could choose was 1080p.
I still have my Note 4 and tested it out just to see if maybe I was just overreacting.
Turns out the Note 4 will trim the exact same video and retain 4K resolution in no joke, 7 seconds. Any idea why?
Am I missing something here? Also anyone find the "capture" feature when viewing a video?
Can the Note4 video trimmer be ported into the S6? Perhaps it will be fixed as the device is technically not even out yet so I may be a first to notice.
redline06 said:
Hey everyone, just wanted to run this by you guys to get an opinion and possibly some insight as to a few features that seem to be missing on the S6.
First off I have owned every Galaxy S device, from the old Vibrant to my current S6, also had a Note 3 and the beast phone Note 4 which my S6 replaced.
I received my S6 on April 2nd and have messed with it a lot to try and learn the ins and outs of it.
Now to the issue at hand, I do quite a lot of picture and video taking, the first thing I noticed is there is no "capture" feature in the video viewer settings which allow me to go frame by frame and snap a photo within the video, its an awesome feature and is very useful when wanting to capture a perfect shot you couldnt really capture with the camera shutter.
Second thing I just stumbled upon a few minutes ago, I took a 0:54 video in 4K but wanted to trim just the first and last few seconds . The trim editing tool took entirely waayyy too long (abour 3 minutes) after pressing export and not only that but it did not allow me to retain the 4K resolution, highest I could choose was 1080p.
I still have my Note 4 and tested it out just to see if maybe I was just overreacting.
Turns out the Note 4 will trim the exact same video and retain 4K resolution in no joke, 7 seconds. Any idea why?
Am I missing something here? Also anyone find the "capture" feature when viewing a video?
Can the Note4 video trimmer be ported into the S6? Perhaps it will be fixed as the device is technically not even out yet so I may be a first to notice.
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I've noticed the same problem. I have my Note 4 side by side. The screen capture option is missing. Disaster. One of the best features of using 4K video is to grab 8mp photos!!! No editing either. Why Samsung!!
My solution is to take a screen shot. Not as easy as the Note 4. Seems to be around 3.5 to 5mb in file size vs normal screen shots of 203kb.
gavinfabl said:
I've noticed the same problem. I have my Note 4 side by side. The screen capture option is missing. Disaster. One of the best features of using 4K video is to grab 8mp photos!!! No editing either. Why Samsung!!
My solution is to take a screen shot. Not as easy as the Note 4. Seems to be around 3.5 to 5mb in file size vs normal screen shots of 203kb.
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I cant believe we are tho only ones who seem to care about this lol
the screen capture feature was like one of my favorite things on previous Galaxy devices.
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I cant believe we are tho only ones who seem to care about this lol
the screen capture feature was like one of my favorite things on previous Galaxy devices.
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It was and a really great way to capture moving things.
So when i use the Youtube app the screen is about an inch short on both sides of being full screen.
There is an option to expand the screen its called "crop to fit" but it literally crops the video so you cant see descriptions captions or things at the bottom or the top of the video....missing content like this
Anyone else notice this.
Any suggestions. This is kind of disappointing.
Whats the point of such of big screen if you cant go full screen mode without it cutting out some of the content???????
When i use the stock Samsung browser to go to Youtube in desktop mode. Same thing its not True full screen.
But if I switch the stock samsung browser to mobile view it gives you 3 options. One of the options lets you go true full screen and doesnt crop as much out. But the thing is you cant select or change the video quality/resolution when its in mobile view. That kind of sucks if you want to watch a 720p or 1080p hd vid
This seems kind of like a big deal. I cant be the only one bothered by this.
gn4life84 said:
So when i use the Youtube app the screen is about an inch short on both sides of being full screen.
There is an option to expand the screen its called "crop to fit" but it literally crops the video so you cant see descriptions captions or things at the bottom or the top of the video....missing content like this
Anyone else notice this.
Any suggestions. This is kind of disappointing.
Whats the point of such of big screen if you cant go full screen mode without it cutting out some of the content???????
When i use the stock Samsung browser to go to Youtube in desktop mode. Same thing its not True full screen.
But if I switch the stock samsung browser to mobile view it gives you 3 options. One of the options lets you go true full screen and doesnt crop as much out. But the thing is you cant select or change the video quality/resolution when its in mobile view. That kind of sucks if you want to watch a 720p or 1080p hd vid
This seems kind of like a big deal. I cant be the only one bothered by this.
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There's no good way to scale or crop it. That's what we get because Samsung decided to go with a weird screen aspect ratio instead of making this phone a little wider. I wish it was wide enough to keep the ratio correct.
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dottat said:
There's no good way to scale or crop it. That's what we get because Samsung decided to go with a weird screen aspect ratio instead of making this phone a little wider. I wish it was wide enough to keep the ratio correct.
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Thanks
Wow. If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8. People always get so hype over these new phones that they dont even question basic stuff anymore.
Dont get me wrong its a great phone but this could be a deal breaker.
But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF.
No point in bragging about the sceen size in all the reviews.
Seems like my old Notes actually had a bigger viewing area if you dont like stuff cropped out. What a bummer.
>But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF
What are you talking about??? If the youtube video is 16:9 you can still watch it on a 18.5:9 screen. Same idea as watching a 4:3 video on a 16:9 screen. You aren't missing anything just because there are black bars on the side. Do you want your phone to show video in the sides that never even hit the camera sensor that filmed whatever video you are watching? You want something literally impossible.
>If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8.
Guess what... the Note 8 will have the same problem. Every screen on planet earth has this problem. It's not even a problem, its just how reality works. If the note 8 is a 16:9 screen it wont completely fill up with 4:3 videos. on nooo!!! If you get a 2.4:1 home theater projector screen and try to watch a 16:9 video OMG all that money down the drain!!!! You can't fill your screen!!!
Come on. If you absolutely must watch 16:9 videos on your phone with no black bars then don't buy a phone that is clearly not 16:9.
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Wow. If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8. People always get so hype over these new phones that they dont even question basic stuff anymore.
Dont get me wrong its a great phone but this could be a deal breaker.
But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF.
No point in bragging about the sceen size in all the reviews.
Seems like my old Notes actually had a bigger viewing area if you dont like stuff cropped out. What a bummer.
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You might as well stop buying Samsung flagships then, Samsung will keep using the taller screen ratio in the future too. And it's literally impossible to fill the entire 18.5:9 screen with a 16:9 video without either cropping the video or stretching it. Video is information, and new information cannot be generated like you are asking (how are you going to return back in time, to have the camera capture more image from the sides to fill the screen with? The camera did not capture more from the sides, meaning it's not possible to know what was there, the information is missing, thus making it impossible to fill the screen without stretching or cropping)
It's a none issue. The picture quality is so exceptional I don't care enough to worry about black bars
Moreover, if watching a common 2.4:1 movie (i.e. 21.6:9) on the 2.05:1 S8/+ display (i.e. 18.5:9), one can enjoy an almost full screen image using only a small cropping, without the upper and lower black bars...:good:
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Moreover, if watching a common 2.4:1 movie (i.e. 21.6:9) on the 2.05:1 S8/+ display (i.e. 18.5:9), one can enjoy an almost full screen image using only a small cropping, without the upper and lower black bars...:good:
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The cropping is cutting out informative info at the bottom of the vids I like to watch.
mikeyaj said:
It's a none issue. The picture quality is so exceptional I don't care enough to worry about black bars
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it is but it was also great on all my old phones. HD youtube can only look so good on screens this size anyways. It does seem better on the 8+ though. I wanted a larger viewing area. Legit question...If size disnt matter why did you go with the 8+ instead of normal 8?
I wish i could get over the black bars like you.
galaxyYtester said:
You might as well stop buying Samsung flagships then, Samsung will keep using the taller screen ratio in the future too. And it's literally impossible to fill the entire 18.5:9 screen with a 16:9 video without either cropping the video or stretching it. Video is information, and new information cannot be generated like you are asking (how are you going to return back in time, to have the camera capture more image from the sides to fill the screen with? The camera did not capture more from the sides, meaning it's not possible to know what was there, the information is missing, thus making it impossible to fill the screen without stretching or cropping)
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I dont mind the Stretch. I prefer the stretch. However stretch view is not an option with the Youtube app. Youtube app is the only way to change the resolution to HD in full screen mode. Thats the whole point to screens like this is to watch HD stuff.
Thanks for the technical info but that is a bit over my head. I still dont really understand that. Its not absurd to buy a $900 device and expect it to play youtube vids full screen in HD.
The cropping is an issue because it literally cuts out some of the info listed at the bottom on the screen that is important to the vids I watch.
Also kind of defeats the whole purpose of an edgeless display and how the phone was advertised.
You think the Note 8 will have the same issue????? You dont think they will make it a tad wider to compensate and make it different from the s8+?
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You think the Note 8 will have the same issue????? You dont think they will make it a tad wider to compensate and make it different from the s8+?
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Nope, if they make it wider with the same tiny bezels, it's going to end up looking short and odd. Samsung isn't going back to the 16:9 aspect ratio, it's going to look old-fashioned to people that are used to the taller screen, now that Samsung has branded it as futuristic and great (Infinity display). And it's not an "issue", because it's just a way that screens work, different ratio screens have things cropped out or stretched out if you want to fill the whole screen.
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>But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF
What are you talking about??? If the youtube video is 16:9 you can still watch it on a 18.5:9 screen. Same idea as watching a 4:3 video on a 16:9 screen. You aren't missing anything just because there are black bars on the side. Do you want your phone to show video in the sides that never even hit the camera sensor that filmed whatever video you are watching? You want something literally impossible.
>If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8.
Guess what... the Note 8 will have the same problem. Every screen on planet earth has this problem. It's not even a problem, its just how reality works. If the note 8 is a 16:9 screen it wont completely fill up with 4:3 videos. on nooo!!! If you get a 2.4:1 home theater projector screen and try to watch a 16:9 video OMG all that money down the drain!!!! You can't fill your screen!!!
Come on. If you absolutely must watch 16:9 videos on your phone with no black bars then don't buy a phone that is clearly not 16:9.
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Dont be a jerk... Calm down. Dont take it personally. Its a legit concern and question I have about enjoying my device. FOR MY NEEDS THAT I PAID MY MONEY FOR.
The bottom and top of the content of the vids I watch daily is cut off in crop to fit mode. Youtube app isnt offering stretch mode for some reason.
There is important info that i need to see for the vids i watch ussualy at the bottom or top of the screen.
It is not ridiculous to expect to watch HD vids full screen and not miss content. Are you kidding me??? You sound like a fan boy. Its a valid point.
I really like the phone other wise. But this very well could be a deal breaker for some. If Its not fof you great. You have no idea what I use my phone for or why I spent money on it.
Again you pay for a big HD screen to be able to use it fully.
If im having these issues swith just using youtube im sure all the other sites and online media are going to suffer from this.
I bought the phone for screen size and hd capabilities. Had no idea I would have to choose between the 2 on one device.
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Nope, if they make it wider with the same tiny bezels, it's going to end up looking short and odd. Samsung isn't going back to the 16:9 aspect ratio, it's going to look old-fashioned to people that are used to the taller screen, now that Samsung has branded it as futuristic and great (Infinity display). And it's not an "issue", because it's just a way that screens work, different ratio screens have things cropped out or stretched out if you want to fill the whole screen.
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Things come and go every device. I try not to get caught up in the branding or marketing.
Also I would guess the Note needs to be different size than the S8. Otherwise its just going to be a S8 with a pen and moved fingerprint scanner.
Guess we will see.
gn4life84 said:
Things come and go every device. I try not to get caught up in the branding or marketing.
Also I would guess the Note needs to be different size than the S8. Otherwise its just going to be a S8 with a pen and moved fingerprint scanner.
Guess we will see.
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Note 8 changes will be a 4K screen, fingerprint scanner embedded inside the screen, dual cameras, 6 gigs of RAM and of course an S-Pen. It's a half-year renovation, the general design will barely change, most likely a bit more square than the S8, but generally the same. The screen size will be the same or a tiny bit bigger than the S8+, this time changes are focusing more on specs than the screen size, that is already at the very edges of what is useful in the S8+. The Note 7 screen size increase over the S7 was minimal too. The Note 8 will also get a major software renovation like the Note 7 did, but thanks to XDA we will see that software in our devices most likely even before official release date of the phone, because the processor is the exact same
The annoying thing for me is when the next video plays I have to crop the screen again I don't know if there's a way to keep it full screen until you exit the YouTube app and when you go full screen straight away the ads go full screen but then the video seems to go black bars and you crop it again.
I never understood why people don't like the aspect ratio. The video would be the same size on another phone but there would just be bezels there instead. At least when I'm in other apps I get more real-estate instead of having just big black bars constantly there in the form of bezels
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Note 8 changes will be a 4K screen, fingerprint scanner embedded inside the screen, dual cameras, 6 gigs of RAM and of course an S-Pen. It's a half-year renovation, the general design will barely change, most likely a bit more square than the S8, but generally the same. The screen size will be the same or a tiny bit bigger than the S8+, this time changes are focusing more on specs than the screen size, that is already at the very edges of what is useful in the S8+. The Note 7 screen size increase over the S7 was minimal too. The Note 8 will also get a major software renovation like the Note 7 did, but thanks to XDA we will see that software in our devices most likely even before official release date of the phone, because the processor is the exact same
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Would of waited if I knew that. Wonder the price difference
gn4life84 said:
Would of waited if I knew that. Wonder the price difference
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The Note 8 be about the same price as the S8+ right now, just like last year the Note 7 was about the price of the S7 Edge. And as software is a big selling point of the Note line, I don't feel bad at all getting an S-line device, thanks to XDA
To the average customer, a software refresh may be a big reason to buy a new device, but thanks to XDA, we will get complete software ports of the Note 8 over to the S8 quickly. These ports will also have very few bugs, because the specs are so similar, good example is how a bugless Note 7 ported ROM came to the S7 before the Note 7 actually went on sale
And take in mind that the Note 8 release date will most probably be later in the yearly cycle than last year so that the S8 can get a good run, because the S8 this year came later than S-line phones usually do. I don't find it worth waiting +5 months for those upgrades, when the price will be the same
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The annoying thing for me is when the next video plays I have to crop the screen again I don't know if there's a way to keep it full screen until you exit the YouTube app and when you go full screen straight away the ads go full screen but then the video seems to go black bars and you crop it again.
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Yeah thats super annoying especially if you're eating watching vids.
Wiseor said:
I never understood why people don't like the aspect ratio. The video would be the same size on another phone but there would just be bezels there instead. At least when I'm in other apps I get more real-estate instead of having just big black bars constantly there in the form of bezels
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I dont know if thats true. Especially if you're coming from a note. I wish I could get my old phone to power on to test this.
I do find the black bars or the white menu bar to be way more distracting than a bezel.
gn4life84 said:
Dont be a jerk... Calm down. Dont take it personally. Its a legit concern and question I have about enjoying my device. FOR MY NEEDS THAT I PAID MY MONEY FOR.
The bottom and top of the content of the vids I watch daily is cut off in crop to fit mode. Youtube app isnt offering stretch mode for some reason.
There is important info that i need to see for the vids i watch ussualy at the bottom or top of the screen.
It is not ridiculous to expect to watch HD vids full screen and not miss content. Are you kidding me??? You sound like a fan boy. Its a valid point.
I really like the phone other wise. But this very well could be a deal breaker for some. If Its not fof you great. You have no idea what I use my phone for or why I spent money on it.
Again you pay for a big HD screen to be able to use it fully.
If im having these issues swith just using youtube im sure all the other sites and online media are going to suffer from this.
I bought the phone for screen size and hd capabilities. Had no idea I would have to choose between the 2 on one device.
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So when you bought it you had no clue about the new aspect ratio?
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force70 said:
So when you bought it you had no clue about the new aspect ratio?
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None.
All I knew was the hype and that blue whale commercial.
Didnt know it was a thing to make sure the phone was manufactured with certain porportions.
Thought being able to use the screen in HD and full screen would be a given.
I have no problem with stretching the screen from the aspect ratio. However that doesnt seem to be an option on most HD content.
gn4life84 said:
None.
All I knew was the hype and that blue whale commercial.
Didnt know it was a thing to make sure the phone was manufactured with certain porportions.
Thought being able to use the screen in HD and full screen would be a given.
I have no problem with stretching the screen from the aspect ratio. However that doesnt seem to be an option on most HD content.
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Not trying to be a **** but dude they advertised the hell out of the new aspect ratio to the point it got annoying.i dont know how you wouldn't have known lol
Sounds like in the future you may want to research your purchases a little more carefully.
I do agree Id much rather have the traditional 16:9 ratio in a 6.2" size...would be much better for sure
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I am thinking about picking up an unlocked AT&T S8+. I know that the phone isn't as wide as an s6 edge plus but it is a little longer. Does the long skinny screen distort or stretch out movies? Are games stretched?
By default, videos will play with the expected aspect ratio with black bars to fill in the space. Both YouTube and the Samsung video app have an additional full screen button that forces the video to fill the entire panel. I have never noticed any distortion of the video in this mode.
Thanks for the info. I saw one on display and I was a little surprised at how much better the display was than the on on my s6 edge+
I came from the S6 edge plus as well, and that was an impressive display. Look up "4k video" in the YouTube app and make sure that the resolution is at 1440 when a video starts playing. Do the original full screen, and then look for the expanded full-screen button. It is mind-blowingly beautiful.
Oh, and the S8 plus is only about 1mm bigger in either direction. The phone fits perfectly in the holster case that I had for the s6 edge plus.
Hello,
I've used a Samsung Galaxy S5, so far, and was pretty happy with it.
Unfortunately the screen starts to die. The lower quarter of the screen starts to flicker sometimes and I think it's just a matter of time until this gets even worse.
I'll keep using the S5 via MHL to watch Netflix on hotel TVs but for my daily use I would like to get something more modern.
A new phone would absolutely have to have:
Price below let's say 500 Euros
Headphone jack!!!
Screen of about the size of the S5 screen or slightly bigger
At least full-hd resolution
Widevine support for up to Full-HD (1080p)
Good Lineage OS support. I would like to use the stock roms as long as I get updates and switch afterwards.
No silly "notch" at the top of the screen. I've never seen a good Android implementation for this, so far.
Good screen quality. I'll use the phone to watch movies a lot! Either OLED or a good quality LCD.
Has to be available in Europe.
M-Reimer said:
Hello,
I've used a Samsung Galaxy S5, so far, and was pretty happy with it.
Unfortunately the screen starts to die. The lower quarter of the screen starts to flicker sometimes and I think it's just a matter of time until this gets even worse.
I'll keep using the S5 via MHL to watch Netflix on hotel TVs but for my daily use I would like to get something more modern.
A new phone would absolutely have to have:
Price below let's say 500 Euros
Headphone jack!!!
Screen of about the size of the S5 screen or slightly bigger
At least full-hd resolution
Widevine support for up to Full-HD (1080p)
Good Lineage OS support. I would like to use the stock roms as long as I get updates and switch afterwards.
No silly "notch" at the top of the screen. I've never seen a good Android implementation for this, so far.
Good screen quality. I'll use the phone to watch movies a lot! Either OLED or a good quality LCD.
Has to be available in Europe.
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Try here and next time, do a search for threads and reread on the Forum Rules. :good:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277