I have read a lot of reviews on the camera and watched a lot of youtube reviews, but i can't find information on the following two questions:
- What is the speed from launching the camera to taking your first shot?
- What is the shot-to-shot speed (using stock CM11S Camera & not using burst mode)?
I'm basically seeing how it compares to the phone i'm replacing Galaxy S4 which has a good shot-to-shot speed, but terrible launch to first shot speed...
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I have read a lot of reviews on the camera and watched a lot of youtube reviews, but i can't find information on the following two questions:
- What is the speed from launching the camera to taking your first shot?
- What is the shot-to-shot speed (using stock CM11S Camera & not using burst mode)?
I'm basically seeing how it compares to the phone i'm replacing Galaxy S4 which has a good shot-to-shot speed, but terrible launch to first shot speed...
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Camera to the first shot is under or 2 seconds exactly for me. This is using the circle gesture to then the camera on when the screen is off..
And as far as shot to shot speed.. MAJORRRR difference compared to the s5,s4,and note 3. I actually sold my note 3 to get a one plus one and let me tell you, the OPO takes pictures extremely FASTER than my note 3.
Same as above, tried it a couple of times from the circle lock screen gesture and it took just over a second but no longer than 2
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Same as above, tried it a couple of times from the circle lock screen gesture and it took just over a second but no longer than 2
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Just received the OPO and the camera settings need to be adjusted to 'continuous focus' in order for it to "act" as the same camera as an S5, iPhone, G3, etc where you can just keep hitting the capture button after it focuses the first time. If you use the default autofocus, it will act as a Nexus 5 which is rather slow.
Pretty good so far...
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Just received the OPO and the camera settings need to be adjusted to 'continuous focus' in order for it to "act" as the same camera as an S5, iPhone, G3, etc where you can just keep hitting the capture button after it focuses the first time. If you use the default autofocus, it will act as a Nexus 5 which is rather slow.
Pretty good so far...
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Yep that's what mine is set to
I am currently using a Galaxy Note Edge on Verizon (KitKat) and I am having serious issues with the Camera (which is supposed to be on-par or even better than one found in the iPhone 6).
I suspect these are software issues, so I'm hoping someone can tell me whether these issues get better with Lollipop (or whether there is an alternative camera app that is better optimized for the Note Edge)
The two most annoying things:
1) Unacceptably Slow Camera: When I take a picture with the Samsung Camera App, it takes at least 5-6 full seconds to see the picture I just took after tapping the thumbnail of said picture. It doesn't matter whether HDR is on or off, or whether I use the camera from the lock screen or home screen. I noticed that the delay is not as bad, but still bad, after taking a few pictures (it's then down to a still painfully slow 2-3 seconds)
2) Motion Pictures: The pics look fantastic, unless you have actual human beings in your picture that make movements or blink with their eyes. I'm not looking to take photos of race cars at dawn, but it would be nice to be able to take pictures of friends in a restaurant, for example.
Why can't the app chose a higher shutter speed for pictures with humans/moving objects in them? I'd rather have a slightly darker/grainier picture than a picture where faces are blurred like in the film "The Ring"....
I cannot comprehend how anyone would ship a flagship phone with these 2 issues, which are clearly software issues. SOMEONE at Samsung must have noticed this, no? It has a top-of-the-line quadcore processor and 3GB of RAM, for crying out loud. How is it possible that an iPhone 4 takes better 'motion' shots and accesses photos faster?
I know there are plenty of other Camera Apps available, but is there one that is perhaps optimized to address issue #2? This must be possible to improve with software optimization.
Same here. I don't remember it always being this slow.
I find it so slow to open the camera from the lock screen that I hardly ever bother. I took great pics with my lg g3, simply because the camera was super easy and fast to start.
I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
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I'm not sure how to to about this. One thing I really care about on a phone I purchase is video recording quality, more specifically 1080p/60fps and slow motion. Unfortunately, the Galaxy s7 has an issue with both of these.
You know how the Galaxy s7 focuses pretty much instantly when recording video in 1080p, 1440p, or 4k? Well, it doesn't happen in the 60fps mode. The focus is even slower than my s6 in 60fps and there is tons of "focus hunting" where it bounces back and forth between focus as you're recording. Focus is literally perfect in any mode besides 60fps.
Then we have an issue with 240fps slow motion where there are a ton of frame skips throughout the video (just YouTube s7 slow motion videos to see what I'm talking about).
These two issues are huge for me. It's unfortunate because I love everything else about the phone. How can we make Samsung aware of these issues?
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for frame skips, you recording to SD card or internal? do internal for something like that; probably hte sd card not being able to keep up with r/w speeds.
if you're doing internal, then i have no idea lol
Same here. Internal or SD does not matter. Just tested. 1440p / 4k works great. It's the 60fps which seems to make the focus slow...
I agree with this. I recorded slow motion to my external and internal storage and both skip and are choppy.
Here's a sample video I took
https://youtu.be/qgYfoxudl74
easiest way: write an email to samsung, all of you for your own. they won't do anything if somebody says "well on xda there are 10 people complaining and 200 people clicked like".
also prepare to go through the 2-3 standard email answers (reset your phone, do the auto update blabla) no matter what you write. just keep pursuing and after the 4th email it'll take 1-2 weeks for an answer and than you're hooked to the right guy.
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I agree with this. I recorded slow motion to my external and internal storage and both skip and are choppy.
Here's a sample video I took
https://youtu.be/qgYfoxudl74
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Cute dog, btw!
I'm having issues with my video recording in every department. All my videos look like crap, very grainy, i wouldn't even consider any of what i have recorded as high def. 4K, joke! Everyone of them is a joke. I honestly wish i hadn't traded in my S6, the 4K video recording on the S6 was the bomb. I displayed a concert i recorded while in a dark floor mind you onto a Samsung 65" 4K tv & it was flawless. I couldn't believe what i was seeing blown up onto this 65" screen. It was amazing. Now the S7 recording, i'm embarrassed to even upload videos to youtube. Here's an example. This was shot during full daylight in 4K with the S7. Everything is washed out looking & grainy. Certainly not 4k worthy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWKZfxBP4UQ
After watching that now watch something i recorded with the s6 in 4K, HUGE difference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTwAC6gBA1A
I have dual 27" 1440p monitors, what ever resolution monitor you have display it in what suits you best
Samsung response to focus problems of the S7 video in 60fps
I've asked Samsung (NL) for a response. First they've told me they will look into it, because the problem should not have been present on all devices.
Later they've added it's a hardware issue and can not be solved by a software update. So no solution: S7 has crappy 60 fps video so live with it.
Very dissapointing. 60fps is one of the features I've needed for recording. A big let down from Samsung.
I think the problem is with the isocell camera sensor. Sony sensor seems to be working fine
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I think the problem is with the isocell camera sensor. Sony sensor seems to be working fine
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Are you guys using SD 820 or Exynos?
I have no issues on an Exynos/IsoCell combo with graininess and choppy slow mo.
However the focus is indeed slower in 60 FPS.
I am using isocell sensor . Focus is very good in all recording settings except full HD 60fps. My friend's galaxy s7 with sony sensor is working fine
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Exynos / rear: Sony / front: SLSI (Samsung). Choppy happend sometimes (after restart it is ok). Slow focus all the time.
Looks like Phone can not handle the data storage or cpu speed to manage more multiple fps. Which results in slow focus...
I use QHD or UHD which does not have any problems at all...
So when i use the Youtube app the screen is about an inch short on both sides of being full screen.
There is an option to expand the screen its called "crop to fit" but it literally crops the video so you cant see descriptions captions or things at the bottom or the top of the video....missing content like this
Anyone else notice this.
Any suggestions. This is kind of disappointing.
Whats the point of such of big screen if you cant go full screen mode without it cutting out some of the content???????
When i use the stock Samsung browser to go to Youtube in desktop mode. Same thing its not True full screen.
But if I switch the stock samsung browser to mobile view it gives you 3 options. One of the options lets you go true full screen and doesnt crop as much out. But the thing is you cant select or change the video quality/resolution when its in mobile view. That kind of sucks if you want to watch a 720p or 1080p hd vid
This seems kind of like a big deal. I cant be the only one bothered by this.
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So when i use the Youtube app the screen is about an inch short on both sides of being full screen.
There is an option to expand the screen its called "crop to fit" but it literally crops the video so you cant see descriptions captions or things at the bottom or the top of the video....missing content like this
Anyone else notice this.
Any suggestions. This is kind of disappointing.
Whats the point of such of big screen if you cant go full screen mode without it cutting out some of the content???????
When i use the stock Samsung browser to go to Youtube in desktop mode. Same thing its not True full screen.
But if I switch the stock samsung browser to mobile view it gives you 3 options. One of the options lets you go true full screen and doesnt crop as much out. But the thing is you cant select or change the video quality/resolution when its in mobile view. That kind of sucks if you want to watch a 720p or 1080p hd vid
This seems kind of like a big deal. I cant be the only one bothered by this.
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There's no good way to scale or crop it. That's what we get because Samsung decided to go with a weird screen aspect ratio instead of making this phone a little wider. I wish it was wide enough to keep the ratio correct.
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There's no good way to scale or crop it. That's what we get because Samsung decided to go with a weird screen aspect ratio instead of making this phone a little wider. I wish it was wide enough to keep the ratio correct.
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Thanks
Wow. If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8. People always get so hype over these new phones that they dont even question basic stuff anymore.
Dont get me wrong its a great phone but this could be a deal breaker.
But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF.
No point in bragging about the sceen size in all the reviews.
Seems like my old Notes actually had a bigger viewing area if you dont like stuff cropped out. What a bummer.
>But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF
What are you talking about??? If the youtube video is 16:9 you can still watch it on a 18.5:9 screen. Same idea as watching a 4:3 video on a 16:9 screen. You aren't missing anything just because there are black bars on the side. Do you want your phone to show video in the sides that never even hit the camera sensor that filmed whatever video you are watching? You want something literally impossible.
>If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8.
Guess what... the Note 8 will have the same problem. Every screen on planet earth has this problem. It's not even a problem, its just how reality works. If the note 8 is a 16:9 screen it wont completely fill up with 4:3 videos. on nooo!!! If you get a 2.4:1 home theater projector screen and try to watch a 16:9 video OMG all that money down the drain!!!! You can't fill your screen!!!
Come on. If you absolutely must watch 16:9 videos on your phone with no black bars then don't buy a phone that is clearly not 16:9.
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Wow. If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8. People always get so hype over these new phones that they dont even question basic stuff anymore.
Dont get me wrong its a great phone but this could be a deal breaker.
But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF.
No point in bragging about the sceen size in all the reviews.
Seems like my old Notes actually had a bigger viewing area if you dont like stuff cropped out. What a bummer.
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You might as well stop buying Samsung flagships then, Samsung will keep using the taller screen ratio in the future too. And it's literally impossible to fill the entire 18.5:9 screen with a 16:9 video without either cropping the video or stretching it. Video is information, and new information cannot be generated like you are asking (how are you going to return back in time, to have the camera capture more image from the sides to fill the screen with? The camera did not capture more from the sides, meaning it's not possible to know what was there, the information is missing, thus making it impossible to fill the screen without stretching or cropping)
It's a none issue. The picture quality is so exceptional I don't care enough to worry about black bars
Moreover, if watching a common 2.4:1 movie (i.e. 21.6:9) on the 2.05:1 S8/+ display (i.e. 18.5:9), one can enjoy an almost full screen image using only a small cropping, without the upper and lower black bars...:good:
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Moreover, if watching a common 2.4:1 movie (i.e. 21.6:9) on the 2.05:1 S8/+ display (i.e. 18.5:9), one can enjoy an almost full screen image using only a small cropping, without the upper and lower black bars...:good:
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The cropping is cutting out informative info at the bottom of the vids I like to watch.
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It's a none issue. The picture quality is so exceptional I don't care enough to worry about black bars
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it is but it was also great on all my old phones. HD youtube can only look so good on screens this size anyways. It does seem better on the 8+ though. I wanted a larger viewing area. Legit question...If size disnt matter why did you go with the 8+ instead of normal 8?
I wish i could get over the black bars like you.
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You might as well stop buying Samsung flagships then, Samsung will keep using the taller screen ratio in the future too. And it's literally impossible to fill the entire 18.5:9 screen with a 16:9 video without either cropping the video or stretching it. Video is information, and new information cannot be generated like you are asking (how are you going to return back in time, to have the camera capture more image from the sides to fill the screen with? The camera did not capture more from the sides, meaning it's not possible to know what was there, the information is missing, thus making it impossible to fill the screen without stretching or cropping)
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I dont mind the Stretch. I prefer the stretch. However stretch view is not an option with the Youtube app. Youtube app is the only way to change the resolution to HD in full screen mode. Thats the whole point to screens like this is to watch HD stuff.
Thanks for the technical info but that is a bit over my head. I still dont really understand that. Its not absurd to buy a $900 device and expect it to play youtube vids full screen in HD.
The cropping is an issue because it literally cuts out some of the info listed at the bottom on the screen that is important to the vids I watch.
Also kind of defeats the whole purpose of an edgeless display and how the phone was advertised.
You think the Note 8 will have the same issue????? You dont think they will make it a tad wider to compensate and make it different from the s8+?
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You think the Note 8 will have the same issue????? You dont think they will make it a tad wider to compensate and make it different from the s8+?
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Nope, if they make it wider with the same tiny bezels, it's going to end up looking short and odd. Samsung isn't going back to the 16:9 aspect ratio, it's going to look old-fashioned to people that are used to the taller screen, now that Samsung has branded it as futuristic and great (Infinity display). And it's not an "issue", because it's just a way that screens work, different ratio screens have things cropped out or stretched out if you want to fill the whole screen.
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>But come on you cant watch true full screen HD YouTube vids. WTF
What are you talking about??? If the youtube video is 16:9 you can still watch it on a 18.5:9 screen. Same idea as watching a 4:3 video on a 16:9 screen. You aren't missing anything just because there are black bars on the side. Do you want your phone to show video in the sides that never even hit the camera sensor that filmed whatever video you are watching? You want something literally impossible.
>If i knew that I would of waited on the Note 8.
Guess what... the Note 8 will have the same problem. Every screen on planet earth has this problem. It's not even a problem, its just how reality works. If the note 8 is a 16:9 screen it wont completely fill up with 4:3 videos. on nooo!!! If you get a 2.4:1 home theater projector screen and try to watch a 16:9 video OMG all that money down the drain!!!! You can't fill your screen!!!
Come on. If you absolutely must watch 16:9 videos on your phone with no black bars then don't buy a phone that is clearly not 16:9.
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Dont be a jerk... Calm down. Dont take it personally. Its a legit concern and question I have about enjoying my device. FOR MY NEEDS THAT I PAID MY MONEY FOR.
The bottom and top of the content of the vids I watch daily is cut off in crop to fit mode. Youtube app isnt offering stretch mode for some reason.
There is important info that i need to see for the vids i watch ussualy at the bottom or top of the screen.
It is not ridiculous to expect to watch HD vids full screen and not miss content. Are you kidding me??? You sound like a fan boy. Its a valid point.
I really like the phone other wise. But this very well could be a deal breaker for some. If Its not fof you great. You have no idea what I use my phone for or why I spent money on it.
Again you pay for a big HD screen to be able to use it fully.
If im having these issues swith just using youtube im sure all the other sites and online media are going to suffer from this.
I bought the phone for screen size and hd capabilities. Had no idea I would have to choose between the 2 on one device.
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Nope, if they make it wider with the same tiny bezels, it's going to end up looking short and odd. Samsung isn't going back to the 16:9 aspect ratio, it's going to look old-fashioned to people that are used to the taller screen, now that Samsung has branded it as futuristic and great (Infinity display). And it's not an "issue", because it's just a way that screens work, different ratio screens have things cropped out or stretched out if you want to fill the whole screen.
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Things come and go every device. I try not to get caught up in the branding or marketing.
Also I would guess the Note needs to be different size than the S8. Otherwise its just going to be a S8 with a pen and moved fingerprint scanner.
Guess we will see.
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Things come and go every device. I try not to get caught up in the branding or marketing.
Also I would guess the Note needs to be different size than the S8. Otherwise its just going to be a S8 with a pen and moved fingerprint scanner.
Guess we will see.
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Note 8 changes will be a 4K screen, fingerprint scanner embedded inside the screen, dual cameras, 6 gigs of RAM and of course an S-Pen. It's a half-year renovation, the general design will barely change, most likely a bit more square than the S8, but generally the same. The screen size will be the same or a tiny bit bigger than the S8+, this time changes are focusing more on specs than the screen size, that is already at the very edges of what is useful in the S8+. The Note 7 screen size increase over the S7 was minimal too. The Note 8 will also get a major software renovation like the Note 7 did, but thanks to XDA we will see that software in our devices most likely even before official release date of the phone, because the processor is the exact same
The annoying thing for me is when the next video plays I have to crop the screen again I don't know if there's a way to keep it full screen until you exit the YouTube app and when you go full screen straight away the ads go full screen but then the video seems to go black bars and you crop it again.
I never understood why people don't like the aspect ratio. The video would be the same size on another phone but there would just be bezels there instead. At least when I'm in other apps I get more real-estate instead of having just big black bars constantly there in the form of bezels
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Note 8 changes will be a 4K screen, fingerprint scanner embedded inside the screen, dual cameras, 6 gigs of RAM and of course an S-Pen. It's a half-year renovation, the general design will barely change, most likely a bit more square than the S8, but generally the same. The screen size will be the same or a tiny bit bigger than the S8+, this time changes are focusing more on specs than the screen size, that is already at the very edges of what is useful in the S8+. The Note 7 screen size increase over the S7 was minimal too. The Note 8 will also get a major software renovation like the Note 7 did, but thanks to XDA we will see that software in our devices most likely even before official release date of the phone, because the processor is the exact same
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Would of waited if I knew that. Wonder the price difference
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Would of waited if I knew that. Wonder the price difference
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The Note 8 be about the same price as the S8+ right now, just like last year the Note 7 was about the price of the S7 Edge. And as software is a big selling point of the Note line, I don't feel bad at all getting an S-line device, thanks to XDA
To the average customer, a software refresh may be a big reason to buy a new device, but thanks to XDA, we will get complete software ports of the Note 8 over to the S8 quickly. These ports will also have very few bugs, because the specs are so similar, good example is how a bugless Note 7 ported ROM came to the S7 before the Note 7 actually went on sale
And take in mind that the Note 8 release date will most probably be later in the yearly cycle than last year so that the S8 can get a good run, because the S8 this year came later than S-line phones usually do. I don't find it worth waiting +5 months for those upgrades, when the price will be the same
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The annoying thing for me is when the next video plays I have to crop the screen again I don't know if there's a way to keep it full screen until you exit the YouTube app and when you go full screen straight away the ads go full screen but then the video seems to go black bars and you crop it again.
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Yeah thats super annoying especially if you're eating watching vids.
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I never understood why people don't like the aspect ratio. The video would be the same size on another phone but there would just be bezels there instead. At least when I'm in other apps I get more real-estate instead of having just big black bars constantly there in the form of bezels
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I dont know if thats true. Especially if you're coming from a note. I wish I could get my old phone to power on to test this.
I do find the black bars or the white menu bar to be way more distracting than a bezel.
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Dont be a jerk... Calm down. Dont take it personally. Its a legit concern and question I have about enjoying my device. FOR MY NEEDS THAT I PAID MY MONEY FOR.
The bottom and top of the content of the vids I watch daily is cut off in crop to fit mode. Youtube app isnt offering stretch mode for some reason.
There is important info that i need to see for the vids i watch ussualy at the bottom or top of the screen.
It is not ridiculous to expect to watch HD vids full screen and not miss content. Are you kidding me??? You sound like a fan boy. Its a valid point.
I really like the phone other wise. But this very well could be a deal breaker for some. If Its not fof you great. You have no idea what I use my phone for or why I spent money on it.
Again you pay for a big HD screen to be able to use it fully.
If im having these issues swith just using youtube im sure all the other sites and online media are going to suffer from this.
I bought the phone for screen size and hd capabilities. Had no idea I would have to choose between the 2 on one device.
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So when you bought it you had no clue about the new aspect ratio?
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force70 said:
So when you bought it you had no clue about the new aspect ratio?
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None.
All I knew was the hype and that blue whale commercial.
Didnt know it was a thing to make sure the phone was manufactured with certain porportions.
Thought being able to use the screen in HD and full screen would be a given.
I have no problem with stretching the screen from the aspect ratio. However that doesnt seem to be an option on most HD content.
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None.
All I knew was the hype and that blue whale commercial.
Didnt know it was a thing to make sure the phone was manufactured with certain porportions.
Thought being able to use the screen in HD and full screen would be a given.
I have no problem with stretching the screen from the aspect ratio. However that doesnt seem to be an option on most HD content.
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Not trying to be a **** but dude they advertised the hell out of the new aspect ratio to the point it got annoying.i dont know how you wouldn't have known lol
Sounds like in the future you may want to research your purchases a little more carefully.
I do agree Id much rather have the traditional 16:9 ratio in a 6.2" size...would be much better for sure
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