Here is a review of the ROG 2 for the ones who haven't seen it yet:
My thoughts:
I am probably one of the few who have nothing to complain about the ROG except for some small remarks:
1. The only main drawback of the ROG phone was its Camera and lack of developer support.
2. The lack of frequent updates which I can live with because lets face it Android Pie doesn't add much to Oreo. Our phone is rich with features that even the latest phones with the latest update lack to this day.
My view of the ROG 2:
To be honest I am kind of disappointed, the phone is a beast and if you don't own the ROG phone already it would be highly recommended to upgrade to if you don't care that much for photography. But to be honest if you already own the ROG phone I feel we are not missing much except maybe for the higher refresh rate and battery life.
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The base model(8GB Ram, 128GB Storage) is selling for 3499 RMB (~508 USD), totally worth the upgrade especially if you swap it with the old model.
Obviously a great phone with ridiculous specs, especially the battery. But it's just a bit too big for my taste.
Rog 2 is a massive upgrade of a phone. I have read somewhere there are aiming to price the 8gb variant close to Oneplus 7 pro and that is close to 700 dollars. This phone will force all android phone to upgrade their specs very soon. It has got a 120hz Samsung screen when Samsung itself it is stuck at 60hz. It is the 2nd phone with UFS 3.0 along with Oneplus 7 pro again made by Samsung and it has got the same great camera as 6z, therefore, will force other gaming phones to take photography seriously.
I jut purchased the 512gb ROG Original to replace my Samsung s10 5G which i hated other than the camera. I have had the Razer Phone 2 also but boxy design made my hands hurt, I like the ROG 2 and will probably get it if it get a global variant in Australia.
Price announced for China
As reported by Gadgets 360, starting from the base variant named ‘Tencent Depth Customisation’ with 8 GB RAM and 128 GB storage, it’s priced at CNY 3,499 (approximately Rs 35,000). The next variant carrying the same configuration called ‘Enjoy Peace in Beijing’ has a price tag of CNY 3,699 (approximately Rs 37,100). Coming to the bigger specced variant that includes 12 GB RAM and 128 GB storage, it’s priced at CNY 5,999 (approximately Rs 60,100). This configuration is also available in the ‘Enjoy Peace in Beijing’ variant priced at CNY 6,199 (approximately Rs 62,100).
Two additional variants were also announced including a Zhizun version priced at CNY 7,999 (approximately Rs 80,200) and an Esports Armour version that goes all the way up to CNY 12,999 (approximately Rs 1,30,300). Although there were no details about the RAM and storage, we think the two variants could be packing 12 GB RAM and 512 GB storage.
Just checked the ASUS store; the base model with 8 GB ram and 128 GB storage is selling for 3499 RMB and I guess they are offering a small discount if you are one of the early birds. Still it's not open for purchase yet, you will have to wait until the 30th of July to pre-order.
I think I will be pre ordering it for that price nothing can beat it with such pricing, i will either swap the ROG phone for the ROG 2 base model or sell it later on in the market.
Here is an in depth look into Android Pie on the ROG 2, I would assume the ROG phone will be running the same software customizations.
i don't get the 6000mah and the resulting weight.
for me, a phone is a phone first, so it should be pocketable
the first ROG Phone was all about modules, so why not keep the phone as light as the first one and add a battery pack module
something like the battery pack module for the Motorola phones
the size and weight made me decide for a different phone (P30 Pro)
The base model unboxing:
I ordered older first gen as I'll wait and see what global release is like first and rom update support etc. In AUS it will be in the $1400+ aud range. Rog one 900 atm. Moving from my razer phone 2 as box design hard on hands
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DanXbix said:
I ordered older first gen as I'll wait and see what global release is like first and rom update support etc. In AUS it will be in the $1400+ aud range. Rog one 900 atm. Moving from my razer phone 2 as box design hard on hands
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Just know there isn't much developer support for the ROG probably because of it's price and marketing.
That's why I believe the ROG 2 will have more attention and support than the first generation mainly because of value to money especially the base model.
I have both devices initially I was thinking of selling the ROG phone but I love both so for now I am keeping it. The ROG 2 has smaller bezels which I love, the underscreen fingerprint of the ROG 2 to be honest not that great I am using face lock which is way faster. In terms of speakers I think both of them give the same experience, the ROG 2 slightly has more defined vocals you can hardly tell. The thing I love about the first generation is the size of the phone my God it's very comfortable to hold in comparison. Overall I think it's the best time to buy the first generation but I would rather buy the second generation because it has up to date technology which will last more. All in all both devices are great. Oh one more thing ROG 2 is a better choice to go with because of the Camera. The downfall of Gaming phones is the camera and since the ROG 2 is the latest and greatest gaming phone it's better to go with it. Good luck!
Rashad83 said:
Just know there isn't much developer support for the ROG probably because of it's price and marketing.
That's why I believe the ROG 2 will have more attention and support than the first generation mainly because of value to money especially the base model.
I have both devices initially I was thinking of selling the ROG phone but I love both so for now I am keeping it. The ROG 2 has smaller bezels which I love, the underscreen fingerprint of the ROG 2 to be honest not that great I am using face lock which is way faster. In terms of speakers I think both of them give the same experience, the ROG 2 slightly has more defined vocals you can hardly tell. The thing I love about the first generation is the size of the phone my God it's very comfortable to hold in comparison. Overall I think it's the best time to buy the first generation but I would rather buy the second generation because it has up to date technology which will last more. All in all both devices are great. Oh one more thing ROG 2 is a better choice to go with because of the Camera. The downfall of Gaming phones is the camera and since the ROG 2 is the latest and greatest gaming phone it's better to go with it. Good luck!
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Its looks like it will be arround $1600 for 512gb model here in AUS so ill wait not spending that much on a phone.. i dont game just like features and specs ROG 1 more then enough for me.
Wonder if ASUS do same as did with first ROG. They just throw away some minor updates and just leave it after half year because ROG 3
The lack of SD card support is a downgrade. Yea it has faster specs other than that but no improvements on network support. How are they releasing a phone this expensive with virtually no bands when compared to their competitors. Look all all the other top of the lines phones and even mid range and it is hard to find ones with such terrible network support.
B66 (1700/2100)
B71 (600)
Missing from the phone, which may impact T-Mobile coverage. Darn.
I love the ROG one the size is Perfect but will upgrade to RoG 2 when globally released
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I love the ROG one the size is Perfect but will upgrade to RoG 2 when globally released
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I have ROG V1 when all i want it the update PIE then i'm okay with it. because i dont have money anymore to buy ROG 2 :laugh::laugh::laugh:
ryu091 said:
I have ROG V1 when all i want it the update PIE then i'm okay with it. because i dont have money anymore to buy ROG 2 :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Believe me Android Pie sucks. I have the ROG 2 and The ROG Oreo Rom is way better than the Pie Rom. Pie doesn't add any extra functionality.
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Believe me Android Pie sucks. I have the ROG 2 and The ROG Oreo Rom is way better than the Pie Rom. Pie doesn't add any extra functionality.
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no worries as long as they fixed some problems and update the security patched..
Hi I got the ROG 1, Asus its update policy sucks !!!!!! No or poor answers in their Zen Forum.
At this time nobody is talking anymore about Android Pie but Android 10 !!!!!!!!
Believe me I'll never get the 9 or 10 on my so called flagship.
They will do the same with ROG 2
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/09/24/asus-rog-phone-android-pie-release-date-unknown-says-company/
https://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum....23&pid=1165051&page=9&extra=page=1#pid1165051
It may suck but, atleast for me that is not the point. It should not been updated by now. If they they can't even get pie on first ROG then how can we expect to get the better Android 10.
I don't really don't want to spend more than $400, ($600 if it can really deliver).
I need:
Headphone Jack
Micro SD slot (or it will have to have 512gb or 1Tb models available [probably more than $600])
6-8gb RAM
OLED
Decent battery
Android 9
A decent radio would nice, maybe a must, something with good reception, but, from what i can tell mid rang phones skimp on radio quality.
My OnePlusX has all of this minus the 6gb of RAM but, ever since updating to android 9 it's been acting like hardware failure or like there is moisture the main board, GPS not updating/working, No notifications when i get texts etc etc (all worked at first after initial upgrade) One plus sells nothing over 256gb.
You should try the Xiaomi Mi 9.
Somethings it has going for it:
6gb Ram
Snapdragon 855
Android 9
super AMOLED screen
3300 mAh battery.
seems to check all of your requirements. I think B&H photo has it at $419. It's even dual sim. I currently have around 4-5 android phones because of work reasons. Xiaomi phones have always been my goto because of the build quality and it not slowing down after long term use.
cdoublejj said:
I don't really don't want to spend more than $400, ($600 if it can really deliver).
I need:
Headphone Jack
Micro SD slot (or it will have to have 512gb or 1Tb models available [probably more than $600])
6-8gb RAM
OLED
Decent battery
Android 9
A decent radio would nice, maybe a must, something with good reception, but, from what i can tell mid rang phones skimp on radio quality.
My OnePlusX has all of this minus the 6gb of RAM but, ever since updating to android 9 it's been acting like hardware failure or like there is moisture the main board, GPS not updating/working, No notifications when i get texts etc etc (all worked at first after initial upgrade) One plus sells nothing over 256gb.
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colew said:
You should try the Xiaomi Mi 9.
Somethings it has going for it:
6gb Ram
Snapdragon 855
Android 9
super AMOLED screen
3300 mAh battery.
seems to check all of your requirements. I think B&H photo has it at $419. It's even dual sim. I currently have around 4-5 android phones because of work reasons. Xiaomi phones have always been my goto because of the build quality and it not slowing down after long term use.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277
Hi there, i'm planning in buy the early bid of the poco x3 pro, but i can't decide what memory cut should i take. i plan to keep it with the stock firmware for at least a year, then jump on custom rom.
In your opinion wich version will have the higher support? should i really mind the 2gb of ram difference?
I think support will be the same, at least I never heard a ROM mentioning the RAM and memory size requirements for the same model (other specs). If you plan to create a lot of videos and edit them with Apps I would go for 8/256. The 256 Gb are UFS 3.1 which is a lot faster then 2.1 which other devices in this price range have and I have seen none with 8/256 so cheap as this device. Snapdragon 860 + 8/256 GB for me are the top specs at this price.
the 2gb of ram do really make some difference? i do not need the extra space, i just want a device "future proof", i have used my moto g5 plus for nearly 4 years, and i'm going to change it just because the battery and the usb plug are quite dead (changed already both)
I can tell you that no noticeable spee difference, but will prevent app reloading in the background. I went for the lower version and everything seems fine.
@surcof :
Save the few bucks for the 2 GB of RAM when you're not a heavy multitasker or use very memory intensive applications on your phone. 6 GB are pretty enough for Android in 2021 and surely for the 4 next years of use.
The 128 GB ROM are definately not worth the higher price because of the hybrid Slot of the device. For 50 € you can buy a fast highend SD-Card with more memory.
surcof said:
Hi there, i'm planning in buy the early bid of the poco x3 pro, but i can't decide what memory cut should i take. i plan to keep it with the stock firmware for at least a year, then jump on custom rom.
In your opinion wich version will have the higher support? should i really mind the 2gb of ram difference?
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12/512 is better
jorgeepelos said:
12/512 is better
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Where do you have the POCO X3 Pro with 12/512GB?
I'm planning to buy mi 10 ultra
But I'm afraid that the phone is made for China
That the phone will not connect to lte because of the missing 20 band
Any idea?
I got a new Samsung Note 10+ 256/12gb ram for $800 last week. Build quality is a lot higher.
Not easily rootable though. Built in Nam.
Lots of issues with Chinese stuff... just saying in the $800 range there are better alternatives.
It uses lte/4g/sub-6 5G fine depending on your carrier.
Do your research based on your own carrier though, and keep in mind, generally phones marketed in other regions typically don't have support for all the bands (thus ensuring the fastest and most stable connections) in the U.S.
You can compare bands and services using this website:
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Just click on the bands/carrier support button.
My carrier just messaged me about their offer for all new Galaxy S22 models with 200€ off from the retail price for S22/S22+ and 250€ off for the S22 Ultra + free Galaxy Buds Pros. With this the S22 Ultra 128GB 5G model would be 1049€, 256GB 5G model 1149€ and the 512GB 5G model 1249€ (all of these are available for interest free payments up to 3 years and the phones are not being bootloader/carrier locked). Is this actually a good offer or should I pass it given that I live in the EU and the model I would get is going to be Exynos 2200 device anyway (which is most likely going to be not as good as the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 variant)?
Hard to say with zero user feedback. Samsung has been having issues with many of their variable rate displays as are most of the manufacturers using this technology.
Right off the get there's no SD card so you better get the 512gb variant. The spen is in an awkward side unless you're a lefty.
You might want the larger Plus size if you want screen real estate to play with.
The Snapdragon question and what the heat sink differences might be if any will be only fully answered in the future.
Samsung should have another flagship release this fall. Personally the S22U isn't giving me any tangible incentives to own it over my N10+'s. Not even a wash; the tradeoffs outweigh the benefits for me.
The N20U was a close and tougher call to make.
2023 may be a better year to buy. I'm pacing it for 2023-2024 if I like what I see.
Both the N10+ and the N20U can be had at good prices. Used and new ones are available but be careful if you do as there's a lot of scamming is going on. The N10+ is still a great phone and both these Notes support up to 1tb of V30 rated storage. The new N10+'s come loaded with 10, the N20U's likely 11. I'm not concerned with updates but if you are factor that in; the N10+'s limit is Android 12, the N20U's is 13 maybe 14(?) I think.
Sincci said:
My carrier just messaged me about their offer for all new Galaxy S22 models with 200€ off from the retail price for S22/S22+ and 250€ off for the S22 Ultra + free Galaxy Buds Pros. With this the S22 Ultra 128GB 5G model would be 1049€, 256GB 5G model 1149€ and the 512GB 5G model 1249€ (all of these are available for interest free payments up to 3 years and the phones are not being bootloader/carrier locked). Is this actually a good offer or should I pass it given that I live in the EU and the model I would get is going to be Exynos 2200 device anyway (which is most likely going to be not as good as the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 variant)?
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I would say it depends on which device you come from.. If you currently have a Note 20 Ultra or S21 Ultra, I would wait a bit before committing. Last year I actually went from Note 20 Ultra to S21 Ultra (I know, stupid), and I regretted it at first but then loved it. If you are coming from an older device, then yeah go for it.