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I have a spare Razer Phone I want to donate to a developer in order to boost development for this device, since Razer released Treble for it the device got my attention, but it could use a bit more development.
Current status:
Official TWRP available
Treble available
Kernel source available
Oreo developer preview available
No custom ROMs ATM, Treble ROMs have broken critical features such as in call audio and possibly more.
I'm shipping the device for FREE to anyone who:
Is a recognised developer here on XDA
Guarantees they will use the device for development (at least try) and not just sell it on eBay
Is located in the EU, because customs, exceptions possible for really great developers.
How to apply:
Leave a post in this thread with a few short words about your previous work at XDA and what would you like to do with the device, like Kernel development, ROM porting or else.
Is this serious or some kind of sad joke?
If you have doubts in me I can just say that I already shipped a device to Phh in December to help boost Treble development, and tomorrow I'm shipping a Nexus 6 to @Elektroschmock to help the Nexus 6 development stay alive as Elektro broke their N6 recently.
In case multiple devs apply for the free device I reserve the right to pick one of my personal preference, unfortunately I have only 1 spare phone for 1 dev.
@phhusson @MishaalRahman interested or know anyone who is?
To clarify, in case it was not clear, the device goes completely free to a developer, I also pay shipping inside the EU.
If customs charges occur outside the EU I would not cover those.
Shipping with tracking.
To the forum mods:
I didn't really know where to put this, I thought not many devs would see it in the Razer forums, as those are usually only frequented by people who already have a device, feel free to move the thread if you think of a better forum where it belongs.
Well not an RD here but hey tought i might try haha, so here it goes
Im part of LOS team (Currently maintaining hero family of devices (s7 and s7 edge exynos) ) Im doing a bringup of them for oreo Fixed almost all of the bugs expect for GPS after that things can go official for them so ill have to find something to play with anyway, I have experience with AOSP build system so i could at least try to get builds for Razer Phone before any mainstream roms are ready for compiling. I would also probably try to get some fun stuff to work on phone like Kali Linux NetHunter and well i would like to play with treble supported device and razer phone looks as a nice candidate as i could get some rest from exynos
Ivan_Meler said:
Well not an RD here but hey tought i might try haha, so here it goes
Im part of LOS team (Currently maintaining hero family of devices (s7 and s7 edge exynos) ) Im doing a bringup of them for oreo Fixed almost all of the bugs expect for GPS after that things can go official for them so ill have to find something to play with anyway, I have experience with AOSP build system so i could at least try to get builds for Razer Phone before any mainstream roms are ready for compiling. I would also probably try to get some fun stuff to work on phone like Kali Linux NetHunter and well i would like to play with treble supported device and razer phone looks as a nice candidate as i could get some rest from exynos
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Well not an RD here but hey tought i might try
Your application is welcome and noted, the RD thing was just a guideline to attract more senior devs, or how to say it.
let's give a couple of days for more devs to get the chance to express their interest and we take it from there
Hi, Diazz72 here .
Well where to start...i've joined xda about 6 years ago, stared my first project on old S4 about 4-5 years ago and continued till i've switched to G5...since it i've contributed to S7 and 6P till i switched to iPhone and soon after to S8...Well let me tell ya S8 is nightmare.
So how can i contribute if chosen...well i can bring at least two rom's to this beautiful device ( maybe R.R. and COS...Will see what crowd demands ).
If you need any more info send me a PM.
Regards, Diazz72.
Well in a nutshell, I'm the lead developer for Invictrix and previously DesolationROM. I was the first person to bring nougat to the note 4, my Werewolf kernel for the LG V20, the Nexus 5, the Nexus 7 2013, the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, and the Essential PH-1. I was also one of the early members of Substratum. Also I was the person who reverse engineered the pixel navbar to work on custom roms.
https://github.com/USA-RedDragon/AboutMe/wiki
https://github.com/USA-RedDragon
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https://github.com/InvictrixRom paint a lot of the picture as well.
Well, of course I'm interested in the Razer Phone, though I don't think I'm the one who will give it the most love.
If I get the device, I'd test and fix all GSIs I'll make on it, like AOSP P when sources will be available (I think that if I get a Razer, it will be the first one to get P, since it's A/B and that makes things much easier)
I'd also probably try to get some hardware features to work on GSIs (like porting stock camera if that's relevant, and see what can be done with the 120Hz screen)
But I won't dive too deep, like I won't do any kernel work.
For my overall Treble testing, I think it will definitely be a great device, since I'm lacking an A/B and a Qualcomm test device, which seem to have few specificities.
Fwiw, I've reported some issues to Essential (they even answered once! https://github.com/phhusson/platfor...23ea40b255dfbba5813c29#commitcomment-28321661 ), and I plan to do this as well for Razer, since it looks like their Treble implementation isn't totally ok (though I think it passes Google certification)
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Well, of course I'm interested in the Razer Phone, though I don't think I'm the one who will give it the most love.
If I get the device, I'd test and fix all GSIs I'll make on it, like AOSP P when sources will be available (I think that if I get a Razer, it will be the first one to get P, since it's A/B and that makes things much easier)
I'd also probably try to get some hardware features to work on GSIs (like porting stock camera if that's relevant, and see what can be done with the 120Hz screen)
But I won't dive too deep, like I won't do any kernel work.
For my overall Treble testing, I think it will definitely be a great device, since I'm lacking an A/B and a Qualcomm test device, which seem to have few specificities.
Fwiw, I've reported some issues to Essential (they even answered once! https://github.com/phhusson/platfor...23ea40b255dfbba5813c29#commitcomment-28321661 ), and I plan to do this as well for Razer, since it looks like their Treble implementation isn't totally ok (though I think it passes Google certification)
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since it looks like their Treble implementation isn't totally ok (though I think it passes Google certification)
It's Dev Preview 1, let's see how it goes by the time it's stable, I do expect changes.
since it's A/B and that makes things much easier
I think you are the first person I ever saw post A/B and easier in the same sentence lol hahaha
Ok so from the 4 interested devs I decided for @phhusson
Why?
Because even tho he said he won't be specifically focused on this device I believe having fully working Treble ROMs is what will bring the most benefit to this device in the long term, having Treble means having already 5+ available ROMs, including LOS 15.1 and RR, and that number will just grow with time.
"like porting stock camera if that's relevant"
Don't bother, it's crap, rather port Google camera
Exelios said:
Ok so from the 4 interested devs I decided for @phhusson
Why?
Because even tho he said he won't be specifically focused on this device I believe having fully working Treble ROMs is what will bring the most benefit to this device in the long term, having Treble means having already 5+ available ROMs, including LOS 15.1 and RR, and that number will just grow with time.
"like porting stock camera if that's relevant"
Don't bother, it's crap, rather port Google camera
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You are the real MVP.
Exelios said:
I have a spare Razer Phone I want to donate to a developer in order to boost development for this device, since Razer released Treble for it the device got my attention, but it could use a bit more development.
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Not sure if anyone answered you, as I don't have time to read through. I'm interested to develop on this device, mostly for NetHunter. I'm not that active on XDA, but you can look me up on Github, Gitlab @yesimxev
Official developer of NetHunter
EDIT: Just seen the last answer. Anyway, I'm interested in future possibilities too. Thanks!
As of now, there is less new work going on here then on my S7e.
My guess is that maybe these phones have not been popular enough (after the S7's, S8's and N8's plus other brands) to attract many of the developers here yet. Except for the AOSP group, we have only one custom ROM and a few pretty much stock ones. The Echoe group have also passed over the S9's (but set up a nice oreo for the S7's).
The efforts of the few developers here are greatly appreciated, but am hoping more will eventually show up.
I also really miss duelboot here. I would have one of the AOSP ROMs up if it was here. Think Chen bought a 965O, so am hoping the others over there will eventually make it Oreo compatible.
Update - the one custom rom just lost its support. Beginning to regret getting this phone. Thinking of selling it and going back to my s7.
i wish i had a g9650 lol.. im stuck with a g965u
Yes I read reviews.
I owned a Oneplus One years ago and I gave up waiting for an upgrade and bought something else.
I here that OnePlus is better at upgrading today than they were four years ago. Is this true ?
Like I said I read and I know OnePlus 6 has available an Oxygen Beta (Android Pie) but it has not been officially released ? Is true if I buy a device I may need to wait several months until they Officially release Android Pie.
Now I know you will say just run the Beta it is stable but here is the make of break question I need Android Pay and Wear OS. My experience tells me if I flash a Beta required apps like Android Pay and Wear OS may stop working.
If I buy today I think the safe thing will be to wait for Oxygen OS (Android Pie) to be released. Customer ROMs or Beta OS will break for sure Android Pay.
Other than hating to wait for official releases this device looks fine.
No wireless charging sucks but I can live without it.
The Pixel camera maybe better but I read the OnePlus 6 camera is not bad
The OnePlus 6T will be out in November but ..... THERE IS ALWAYS A NEW DEVICE around the corner. Wait for the OnePlus 6T..... oh but it a few months this will be released.
This device gives better value for the dollar.
Android pay is not working in Beta, you should read the OP forum in the beta thread to see all the things being said.
The 6T rumor is that it will come with Pie installed but since it isn't out yet nobody knows if it will really be installed out from the gate.
Personally, I think Oxygen OS is a mess and from what I see on the threads for Pie, they're just patching it yet again and putting a new UI on it over starting from scratch. All they keep doing is carrying over bugs from previous versions and then trying to re-patch them again for either the new device model and/or new Android system. Considering treble is now installed on both the 5 and 6, IMO they should have started fresh and should have been working on coding an entirely new OS 2 years ago.
If I were you, I would wait until Pie is released in the fall and see how it goes and what the complaints are before buying anything.
Official Pie has been released, you can already download the firmware and flash it.
As for updates and kernel source upload speed, the OP6 gets both the fastest among all devices I had.
As for taking pics, use the gcam port for great picture quality and the oos cam for [email protected] recording.
The Official build for Android pie has been released today which is nice as it took only about 1.5 months after Google released it themselves.
Thanks I jumped on a sale, and ordered one.
I am not even sure at this point I care about the Pixel, it may have a better camera but I am sure ordering the One Plus 6 I saved hundreds of dollars.
The OP 6T is set to be released in the next couple months. Unless you're in need of a headphone jack, I'd wait to get the latest version.
floridaman said:
Android pay is not working in Beta, you should read the OP forum in the beta thread to see all the things being said.
The 6T rumor is that it will come with Pie installed but since it isn't out yet nobody knows if it will really be installed out from the gate.
Personally, I think Oxygen OS is a mess and from what I see on the threads for Pie, they're just patching it yet again and putting a new UI on it over starting from scratch. All they keep doing is carrying over bugs from previous versions and then trying to re-patch them again for either the new device model and/or new Android system. Considering treble is now installed on both the 5 and 6, IMO they should have started fresh and should have been working on coding an entirely new OS 2 years ago.
If I were you, I would wait until Pie is released in the fall and see how it goes and what the complaints are before buying anything.
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... That's not how android works .. even less since treble... You don't simply "patch" your Android version up to date, especially when it's a major revision that is changed. Most oftenly they start from scratch with some cherry picks. And rebuild blobs whenever necessary... files come from AOSP in it's normal form, then every time android releases a new version, this has to be merged with the current existing release yes, but that means that every difference from x that y has changes into x (x being the updated file, any of em, Y Being the old, already installed one)... Bringing something on /system over from one of the earlier oos, to a newer oos, would break alot. I mean.. we can't even run ob3 custom kernels on GM pie... Because changes... Having something stick around doesn't mean it hasn't been touched, porting is another thing, and there is also maybe a chance that it's the same group of devs handling this as it was back then. It's still oneplus. Also. Oos isnt nearly as bad as you make it sound.. Oos is by far the best fork of Android I've seen launched as an OEM specific android experience, and I've seen alot of phones. Simply due to its close resemblance of the pure experience, with it's small addins for simplicity, performance, and ease of use. The UI is Google's own new material guideline. Not oneplus'. And there was 3 pie betas wherein other Companies reach up to 18-20 betas... Are we owning the same device?
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... That's not how android works .. even less since treble... You don't simply "patch" your Android version up to date, especially when it's a major revision that is changed. Most oftenly they start from scratch with some cherry picks. And rebuild blobs whenever necessary... files come from AOSP in it's normal form, then every time android releases a new version, this has to be merged with the current existing release yes, but that means that every difference from x that y has changes into x (x being the updated file, any of em, Y Being the old, already installed one)... Bringing something on /system over from one of the earlier oos, to a newer oos, would break alot. I mean.. we can't even run ob3 custom kernels on GM pie... Because changes... Having something stick around doesn't mean it hasn't been touched, porting is another thing, and there is also maybe a chance that it's the same group of devs handling this as it was back then. It's still oneplus. Also. Oos isnt nearly as bad as you make it sound.. Oos is by far the best fork of Android I've seen launched as an OEM specific android experience, and I've seen alot of phones. Simply due to its close resemblance of the pure experience, with it's small addins for simplicity, performance, and ease of use. The UI is Google's own new material guideline. Not oneplus'. And there was 3 pie betas wherein other Companies reach up to 18-20 betas... Are we owning the same device?
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I didn't say they were patching Android, I said they were patching their OS. Yes, I know they are 2 different things and I know things are working differently since treble. They can fully keep taking their Oxygen OS and throwing it over the latest version of Android and patch it to make it work with the new code, which is exactly what they've been doing. Yes, they get a guideline, that doesn't mean they are stuck doing only that and making no improvements/changes. There are literally hundreds of options they can code for, but don't.
I'm sorry, but it's not only simple, it's downright beyond basic even to what Google turns on and codes for features. Spare me the dribble of "pure android" please, it's a ridiculous mantra. I've not put the beta's on my phone but have been reading the forum and I have not yet received the stable update that has been just pushed out. But I already see some of the complaints coming in and no I'm not talking about the nonsensical postings.
If you think that OP is doing a great job on their OS, then you and I clearly have different standards. I'm glad you love it so much, to each his own in that regard.
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I didn't say they were patching Android, I said they were patching their OS. Yes, I know they are 2 different things and I know things are working differently since treble. They can fully keep taking their Oxygen OS and throwing it over the latest version of Android and patch it to make it work with the new code, which is exactly what they've been doing. Yes, they get a guideline, that doesn't mean they are stuck doing only that and making no improvements/changes. There are literally hundreds of options they can code for, but don't.
I'm sorry, but it's not only simple, it's downright beyond basic even to what Google turns on and codes for features. Spare me the dribble of "pure android" please, it's a ridiculous mantra. I've not put the beta's on my phone but have been reading the forum and I have not yet received the stable update that has been just pushed out. But I already see some of the complaints coming in and no I'm not talking about the nonsensical postings.
If you think that OP is doing a great job on their OS, then you and I clearly have different standards. I'm glad you love it so much, to each his own in that regard.
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To each their own indeed. And it's not a ridiculous mantra.just as countless many others, I do prefer to be able to switch over countless amounts of phone but still have the same familiar, debloated and resource friendly UI. Having to learning all the different "UX"s gets pretty dull, as soon as ie Samsung gets settled with one, they change design language. And that, for me, is a deal breaker, I don't feel like having to relearn the same basics over and over, and where I usually have to install another AOSP based ROM on ie my Xperia, HTC or Samsung. Whilst the OnePlus just has the familiarity and non-rubbish feel to it that AOSP has. But don't get me wrong, as you said, to each their own, and if it wasn't for people like you that don't want the stock feel, we wouldn't have custom kernels and/or ROMs. And I've ran all the betas except ob3 and currently run the stable... And I've yet to run into any app not loading, crashing, or features not working as intended. But I would recommend not jumping on the bandwagon as I regret doing so, until there are some more data and user reviews of the stable branch. And I'm not trusting anyone doing a forum post not being previously recognized or a proper reviewer. The stable build is solid, but it's still early to tell.
I was thinking, 2 years I own Galaxy A7 and still no usable AOSP for my phone...
Cant find any GSI with working features.
Does anyone think same?
g0didit said:
I was thinking, 2 years I own Galaxy A7 and still no usable AOSP for my phone...
Cant find any GSI with working features.
Does anyone think same?
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Yes there is not volte and bluetooth call bugless rom
GSIs are not harming Android development, in fact, they're helping it. Many custom ROMS these days start out as basically GSIs but then add device-specific customizations. Devices that would otherwise never get any custom ROM support can at least have a chance at AOSP with a GSI.
MishaalRahman said:
GSIs are not harming Android development, in fact, they're helping it. Many custom ROMS these days start out as basically GSIs but then add device-specific customizations. Devices that would otherwise never get any custom ROM support can at least have a chance at AOSP with a GSI.
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Ye, ur right... chance to boot GSI and find bunch of on working featuress, nothing else... there is no daily driver GSI as I ususally run on my phones before A7...
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Ye, ur right... chance to boot GSI and find bunch of on working featuress, nothing else... there is no daily driver GSI as I ususally run on my phones before A7...
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I have an idea - instead of only pointing non-working features and, at the same time, having some expectations regarding roms, try to fix those, simply follow the logs and search for solutions. As it was mentioned, treblized devices usually boot any GSI, kernel side is secured on A750x by @prashantp01. Volte and bluetooth are not impossible to fix, neither deal breakers for most users.
Concluding my arrogant post - typical for Samsung custom development communities DEMAND attitude without any EFFORTS, expectations to turn midrange devices into flagships with just software, focus on what is bugged (mostly minor things, used 0,01% of time)... All leads to 'death of development' for devices like A7 2018, which has fairly A HUGE potential, for example proved by @corsicanu in A5/A7 2017 or @ananjaser1211 amazing work for J series.
Don't threat it personal, it is more general statement.
Voytec83 said:
I have an idea - instead of only pointing non-working features and, at the same time, having some expectations regarding roms, try to fix those, simply follow the logs and search for solutions. As it was mentioned, treblized devices usually boot any GSI, kernel side is secured on A750x by @prashantp01. Volte and bluetooth are not impossible to fix, neither deal breakers for most users.
Concluding my arrogant post - typical for Samsung custom development communities DEMAND attitude without any EFFORTS, expectations to turn midrange devices into flagships with just software, focus on what is bugged (mostly minor things, used 0,01% of time)... All leads to 'death of development' for devices like A7 2018, which has fairly A HUGE potential, for example proved by @corsicanu in A5/A7 2017 or @ananjaser1211 amazing work for J series.
Don't threat it personal, it is more general statement.
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indeed. Infact its quite the opposite, The availability of GSIs can give phones such as these a much higher chance to use AOSP ROMs compared to before, were you would have to wait until someone decides to make one (and most of the time it would be one or two people at best) when it comes to low/mid range samsung devices.
While on GSIs there are many contributors working day and night to bring support for as many devices as possible. even when a GSi is not going to be "100% stable" (lets be real nothing is) . it still is better than having no other options at all.
Android Pie and even Android Q GSIs are significantly more stable and im sure you will find one that works if you need AOSP ROMs.. However if you are looking for "samsung" features and bugless ROMs, you will only use Stock, thats what happens when you get a device with very little dev base
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indeed. Infact its quite the opposite, The availability of GSIs can give phones such as these a much higher chance to use AOSP ROMs compared to before, were you would have to wait until someone decides to make one (and most of the time it would be one or two people at best) when it comes to low/mid range samsung devices.
While on GSIs there are many contributors working day and night to bring support for as many devices as possible. even when a GSi is not going to be "100% stable" (lets be real nothing is) . it still is better than having no other options at all.
Android Pie and even Android Q GSIs are significantly more stable and im sure you will find one that works if you need AOSP ROMs.. However if you are looking for "samsung" features and bugless ROMs, you will only use Stock, thats what happens when you get a device with very little dev base
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Thanx for your elaboration I need AOSP, pure, without any trace of Google and Samsung but unfortunately there is no working GSI, signal bars not work, sections of settings hung-up, a looot of FC's without install any app...
In fact I must agree with you, there was 1 or 2 developers per device and images runs without major issues, now we got ??? (bunch) of developers and no developers own actual device so there is no hope for fix, writing issues with logs without any answer or help.
BR.
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I have an idea - instead of only pointing non-working features and, at the same time, having some expectations regarding roms, try to fix those, simply follow the logs and search for solutions. As it was mentioned, treblized devices usually boot any GSI, kernel side is secured on A750x by @prashantp01. Volte and bluetooth are not impossible to fix, neither deal breakers for most users.
Concluding my arrogant post - typical for Samsung custom development communities DEMAND attitude without any EFFORTS, expectations to turn midrange devices into flagships with just software, focus on what is bugged (mostly minor things, used 0,01% of time)... All leads to 'death of development' for devices like A7 2018, which has fairly A HUGE potential, for example proved by @corsicanu in A5/A7 2017 or @ananjaser1211 amazing work for J series.
Don't threat it personal, it is more general statement.
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@Simon1511 he has ported one ui 2.0 on a5 2017 he's a great dev
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So far there was plenty of choice between roms with each android version as the years went by. Android 8 got a lot, 9 a bit less but still plenty, 10 a lot again but 11 seems to be largely skipped (at least by the major big roms). As far as i know, there is only Lineage, Graphene, Tugapower, Kali Nethunter and that's it. (there is Havoc-OS too but it's not official and has barely any features)
Of course it's still better than nothing at all to keep the opo working so i'm very thankful to the devs for that. Even android 10 will be useful for a few more years (i'm currently on RR android 8 and no issues so far even now). TWRP had an update in may 2022 which was a nice surprise, so that's pretty cool at least.
Is there any indication at all that someone is working on android 12 for the opo?
Many rom builders nowadays have their own site now. Below i found a site some time ago that has a lot of them in one place to easily keep track if any progress happens:
OnePlus One ROMs Archives
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theunlockr.com
So far no major names like Resurrection Remix, Syberia, MSM-X, Havoc, Posp, among many others..
Correct me if i'm wrong. Maybe i missed something completely. Perhaps you guys have some interesting opinions aswell.
edit: not sure why mod moved it to here(i posted in general on purpose). it's not a technical problem but whatever, i guess knowing context is hard
edit2: even the galaxy s2 and s3 got android 12 now. If those devices can boot it, the opo (which is comparable so an s5) surely has to be capable enough. i hope someone out there is developing someting..