Switching ROMs - Transferring App Data - OnePlus 8T Questions & Answers

Hi, there.
I recently purchased OnePlus 8T and tried out the Pixel Experience ROM and really loving it! I see that there won't be any more development until someone takes over the project so I would like to try a different ROM.
I'm wondering if there's a way to save full app data and transfer over. Way way back in the day when I used to tinker lots with Android I used to use Titanium Backup. Is there something like that these days?
Looking forward to some help - thank you very much in advance!

Titanium backup is still a thing, but it doesn't handle split apk files that good (still work fine for data restore for these apps though).
A modern alternative is swift backup that works well.
I have heard good things in the past for migrate as well, but haven't tried it myself
Migrate is a new app to help you switch custom ROMs
Tired of custom ROM switching being an annoying task? Migrate will walk you through the process of switching to another custom ROM with your data intact.
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I moved from TB to Swift Backup https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.swiftapps.swiftbackup and I am very happy with it.

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I have been using migrate on A11 and 12-12.1 successfully. Its very Fast. and does bulk backup and restore with data. I also have the paid version of swift and its ok too the gentleman above isn't steering you wrong, I prefer migrate however.
Migrate - ROM backup 5.0.1 - Apps on Google Play
Move apps, data, contacts, SMS etc from one custom ROM to another.
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I also know that Alpha backup claims to be the only player who can handle split apk's...decisions decisions.

trook said:
I also know that Alpha backup claims to be the only player who can handle split apk's...decisions decisions.
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Hmm. I was sure Swift backup can backup split apks too.

Rootk1t said:
Hmm. I was sure Swift backup can backup split apks too.
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It does

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Best Method of Backing up your phone?

So what's the best way of backing up your device after you root? I used ROM manager... (not sure what all this backs up) It gave me a
cache
data
datadata
nandroid.md5
system
files...
So if i end up bricking/soft bricking my phone will this restore my phone to how it was at that time?
I Downloaded Titanium Backup, but from the looks of it you have to manually back up different resources? I uninstalled it.
I backup my Launcher settings using ADW, there is a option in settings and I believe TW and LauncherPro have same. That is the worst part of reapplying a ROM or reverting to stock IMHO.
For Apps I just use AppBrain. Keep my list synced.
Would love to know if there are other options for other info like all the different Logins for FB, Google, Twitter, and other services.
Again I am pretty new to this platform and eager to learn and help.
Is there a way to make a image of a fresh install or ROM of my system once I have all set the way I like. a Baseline of sorts..
Sighcosis said:
I backup my Launcher settings using ADW, there is a option in settings and I believe TW and LauncherPro have same. That is the worst part of reapplying a ROM or reverting to stock IMHO.
For Apps I just use AppBrain. Keep my list synced.
Would love to know if there are other options for other info like all the different Logins for FB, Google, Twitter, and other services.
Again I am pretty new to this platform and eager to learn and help.
Is there a way to make a image of a fresh install or ROM of my system once I have all set the way I like. a Baseline of sorts..
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I think that's what ROM manager does.. you have to root to use it though
I use titanium backup pro worth the money. Great app it will backup app data and system data can be linked to a dropbox account and will store info there or on SD you choose you need root for general functionality but for backups I think it's hands down the winner in my book.....
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How do you then reinstall using Titanium?
Flash a Rom of choice and ?? does it make a image ? seems it backs up individual apps and settings.
Going a week of having the phone and I almost have it tweaked to the way I want with apps and such. Finally got Firefox installed on it tonight and Beta 4 on PC and syncing away.
I would be so much happier to have 2.2 on here so I could do Chrome for droid. But .. guess its price I pay for living in the sticks and having US Hell...

[Q] Is there a painless way to restore settings and apps when moving to a new ROM?

Ok, I was on factory stock. I had all of the programs I wanted working and functional. I've been using MyBackupPro in order to backup all of my settings and apps.
After I install a new ROM, I restore all of my apps and settings using MyBackup Pro. However, I get nothing but issues. Many apps force close, apps don't show up in the app drawer, and I have to reorganize my home screen due to broken app links. Needless to say, it's a pain in the ass to switch ROMs.
Is there a painless way to backup all of your stuff and restore everything onto a new ROM? Taking hours to restore what I once had is no longer fun.
Now, I know there's Titanium Backup. If you like using it and it works for you perfectly, please tell me the EXACT steps you use to backup your apps and settings. Just telling me to "use Titanium" is not helpful. Thanks.
Nevermind. I just said screw it and paid for Titanium Pro. It cleaned up the mess.
However, I will say that using Titanium Pro is like using a bulldozer to make a sandcastle.
DangerZone1223 said:
Nevermind. I just said screw it and paid for Titanium Pro. It cleaned up the mess.
However, I will say that using Titanium Pro is like using a bulldozer to make a sandcastle.
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you never want to restore data if coming from one rom to a different rom. you will get lots of Fc's among other issues. just restore the apks.
simms22 said:
you never want to restore data if coming from one rom to a different rom. you will get lots of Fc's among other issues. just restore the apks.
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Psh never had a problem unless I was restoring system APKs and data. Then you're dead. I was always fine restoring games and apps and their data even switching from a ROM to another.

[Poll] What is the best Backup App ?

Hello,
I am making this Poll so people can decide what is the best app to backup your data and apps.
please choose depending on your own experience and not on other people opinions.
thank you very much.
Thanks for the threa Q
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Hello,
I am making this Poll so people can decide what is the best app to backup your data and apps.
please choose depending on your own experience and not on other people opinions.
thank you very much.
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i was searching all over the net and this forum for a gud one.
i didnt like my experience with titanium.root,mybackup.root/pro,astro and go backup.
i m on latest CM10 nightly by Quarx.
when i backup and restore ..say AngryBirds which i have installed in and moved to sd-card. the restore goes to internal memory again.
the restore fills my internal memory. as i m always on latest nightlies i can keep reinstalling and then moving them to sd-card all the times.
i have a little over 200 apps installed.
2morrow i will try Ultimate backup tools a xda development. hopng for a better result
Best Back up app
I think it's like anything else when you're customizing your phone. A matter of personal preference. Try till you find you you like.
Titanium Backup is the best. The icon system works well.
My backup is great for one click backup and restore, and has very friendly UI. The downside is that it doesn't follow symlinks so doesn't copy app apks but only data. Tibkp is too pricey for an app which still has some major bugs, also it takes a whole lotta time to figure out all the settings and it backs up too much stuff (i switch roms often, so system files can be a hassle). It has some cool feats, like restore from cwm backup and such, but again, it's more the time i spent wiping data due to system fc's than that i would've spent redownloading all the apps. GO backup i used when i was new to android and got the full GO package (launcher, sms, contacts etc) two weeks into android and learning how it works and i got rid of all that crap....To sum it up, still looking for a good app (though i haven't tried many tbh)
I prefer Titanium Backup
Best backup app is apk batch installer for sure
Its not an android app its windows app and works by adb
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I'm using Titanium Backup PRO & Link2SD, even though it works very well, I'm looking for one app that does both thing..
My backup root
Used since I rooted my X10 in 2012, then my Neo and now my T
No problems at all and free
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Titanium Backup is the best!
If you need an app just for backups, Titanium must serve you well... never had a problem using it!
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I also want to go with Titanium Backup app. It really powerful app for backup and one of the special thing of this app is that it just does not backup the apps but also back up the data associate with that app. Additionally, it takes back up of system apps along with user apps. Truly amazing oneā€¦.
Titanium backup is the most popular. I think that's the best too.
I like titainium backup because of the so many options to choose.
Titanium backup... nuff said.
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Mostly refers to titanium backup
but since it have the paid version,which is not too expensive(i know)the developers deserves it.for now
but still,i think the best one is CMW,nothing else
titanium backup, so many features (if you really know how to use it), never use others, and worth buying the pro version
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I prefer Titanium Backup from all the features it has
Well, Titanium has never failed me.

Farewell to titanium backup. Looking for alternative.

Hi.
Just had and upgrade from OnePlus 6t to OnePlus 7 pro. I was thinking, that it's gonna to be easy walk in the park using my old friend Titanium backup. Ow how I was wrong. I used "migrate system data" checkbox checked
Every third user app force closes after restore from titanium backup
All user settings bluetooth / wifi pairings was was not restored successfully. Didnt even tried messages and call logs, as I read in play store comments, that it's also a failure
Box.com backups of app got's corrupted. Downloaded backups verification fails with "error with properties of backup". In details it shows: has data:yes, has app:No. But folder size is same as on source system. Simple to test on single device: backup any app, upload to box.com. Uninstall app and delete it's backup. Sync back from box to titanium backup. And this app is not restoreable anymore. Same test succeeds with google drive. Wrote support, but no answer. Ended moving files between devices via oneplus file manager file dash.
Folder organizer labels does not work anymore
How I can backup and move titanium settings and labels from one device to another? "Auto sync tb settings" checkbox does not generate any file on source device for me
UI issues trimming part of the labels / texts
And it's not only me. See one of the most thanked comment on play store from 2019-03-18:
App data backup / restore works, but that's about it. * It only backs up the main .apk file in a split apk. Restoring a backup of split apk will most likely cause the app to crash.Google is pushing app bundles hard, so these will become more and more common. * It doesn't backup Messages / call logs correctly (DB location moved to /data/user_de/0 sometime in Kit-Kat? This backs up the old location) * Backups occasionally fail reporting no space left, despite having more than enough available * Lots of UI issues, such as dark text on dark buttons - nearly illegible * Developer is unresponsive to support emails
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I don't want to say farewell to my old beloved friend, but lack of support and such issues is not acceptable for me. Any recommendations for reliable backup app?
I think I found alternative: Swift backup.
Supports all new android features (split apks + permision restore). Also app has extremely active and supportive telegram group with app author in constant contact with users. Requested one feature, and it got implemented in a few moments!
I also now start running into hanging restores using trusty old Titanium Backup. So it stopped working properly. I indeed reckon it is due to split apks. So I am now also stuck wondering whether to ask for updating TB or move over to using something else. I will have a look at your found alternative, thanks.
Necrothreading here . But in 2020 Titanium still freezes on split APKs and doesn't support DE app data. I also took a look at Swift but immediately rejected it because it won't run even in a basic mode without GApps and a sign-in - useless when testing developer ROMs where the gapps might be broken.
Any other 2020 root backup solutions that work?
Those apps are not taken care because people don't root their phones nowadays. Would recommend you to use TWRP for backup.
had the same issue, but I fixed it with disabling this android setting: "Verify apps over USB". This setting is under system > developer options, so you will have to enabled developer mode..
I found this advice elsewhere, so I thought I'd put it here too. I'm looking for an alternative for titanium, (I'm happily using SMS Backup and Restore), but haven't found anything I like just yet.
Mr. Fitzie said:
had the same issue, but I fixed it with disabling this android setting: "Verify apps over USB". This setting is under system > developer options, so you will have to enabled developer mode..
I found this advice elsewhere, so I thought I'd put it here too. I'm looking for an alternative for titanium, (I'm happily using SMS Backup and Restore), but haven't found anything I like just yet.
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cash_h said:
Those apps are not taken care because people don't root their phones nowadays. Would recommend you to use TWRP for backup.
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Swift Backup
And
Helium
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Swift is perfect
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Mr. Fitzie said:
had the same issue, but I fixed it with disabling this android setting: "Verify apps over USB". This setting is under system > developer options, so you will have to enabled developer mode...
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I disabled "Verify apps over USB" and it allowed my hanging restores to complete.
HOWEVER, the apps in question then crashed every time I tried to open them. So not truly a working solution.
dadnammit said:
I disabled "Verify apps over USB" and it allowed my hanging restores to complete.
HOWEVER, the apps in question then crashed every time I tried to open them. So not truly a working solution.
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did you take a look at logcat for details of the crash? I think I had similar issues, and it turns out I needed to change permissions/ownership on a single directory (/sdcard?). I had to do this once, and then all subsequent restores have been working fine. it's quite easy to do with "adb logcat" and then just try to start the app.
The best thing I did was not to try to restore everything on the new phone, but just selectively restore apps that I missed from the old phone over time. apps like signal/whatapp need specialized restore processes anyway due the encryption, and the storage of data outside of the app data location.
hth/
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Swift is perfect
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SWIFT requires GAPPS. If you're trying to move away from Google, it won't work.
I have noticed on my own phone that Titanium Backup often does not restore the APK properly. However, I have had great success with it in restoring app data and I can always download and install the app from APKMonk, APKMirror F-Droid or my backup APK. Unfortunately, without GAPPS, the Titanium Backup PRO key will not work and the free app is too limiting. Titanium Backup does have the capability of using a license file and I have tried multiple times to contact the programmer to acquire or re-buy the license file but I have heard nothing back from them since I started pestering them a month ago, not from their TitaniumTrack website, not from the legacy page and not by direct email to Mr. Bourquard. I'm going to keep trying but there have been no updates to the app in Google Play since 24 Nov 2019 (the TitaniumTrack website has a change log but no update date). I hope he isn't dead ...
Shadeclan said:
SWIFT requires GAPPS. If you're trying to move away from Google, it won't work.
I have noticed on my own phone that Titanium Backup often does not restore the APK properly. However, I have had great success with it in restoring app data and I can always download and install the app from APKMonk, APKMirror F-Droid or my backup APK.
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The problem of apps with Split APK's makes it harder to make your own backup APK, and if you can't find the full APK on a mirror, you can be in trouble.
I have found a good solution using SAI ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aefyr.sai&hl=en&gl=US ).
I backup the app with TiB (which, as you say, does a good job still with the app data). And I backup the APKs with SAI. Between the two, I can rollback/restore/etcetera.
dadnammit said:
The problem of apps with Split APK's makes it harder to make your own backup APK, and if you can't find the full APK on a mirror, you can be in trouble.
I have found a good solution using SAI ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aefyr.sai&hl=en&gl=US ).
I backup the app with TiB (which, as you say, does a good job still with the app data). And I backup the APKs with SAI. Between the two, I can rollback/restore/etcetera.
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That's not a bad idea.
I recently migrated away from Google and have /e/OS loaded on my phone without GAPPS. I can use Aurora Store to access Google Play but SAI is also available in the /e/ store so I'll get it from there. I had looked at and rejected SAI because it doesn't save app data but I'll try combining the two.
I'm not sure why Swift Backup is not talked about more often. It's one of the best backup app out there. Way better than what Titanium offers.
Well, unfortunately Titanium hasn't been updated in ages...
simplydat said:
I'm not sure why Swift Backup is not talked about more often. It's one of the best backup app out there. Way better than what Titanium offers.
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Just wish the app would grab the data, too.
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Just wish the app would grab the data, too.
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I also search a new Backup ap and tried swift.
I tried it with some apps and the datas are also restored
deadmeiker said:
I also search a new Backup ap and tried swift.
I tried it with some apps and the datas are also restored
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As I explained earlier, Swift requires the Google Play store, which I purposely do not have installed on my phone.
Have you guys not heard of oandbackup ? It's not updated since 2019 but I think it does a pretty good job, the github page also mentions about how to restore the files manually and setting security context etc. I haven't tried it but I am about too.
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As I explained earlier, Swift requires the Google Play store, which I purposely do not have installed on my phone.
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It is no longer mandatory to have GApps, though it is still mandatory to sign to google account. You can still do local back up

Question Just a heads up Swift Backup will NOT restore data from a 6 pro to a 7 pro

Either the 7 pro has a new file structure, or Swift Backup is a 32 bit app, which ia no longer allowed on the 7 pro version of A13. Whatever the issue is, if you have important data, keep the 7 pro in the box until another option for restoring app data is available.
Just trying to save folks some time amd effort.
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Either the 7 pro has a new file structure, or Swift Backup is a 32 bit app, which ia no longer allowed on the 7 pro version of A13. Whatever the issue is, if you have important data, keep the 7 pro in the box until another option for restoring app data is available.
Just trying to save folks some time amd effort.
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Ive restore my backup successfully ( or almost successfully , cause few apps were crashing afterwards..lol) from my 6pro
I will also try it at the weekend. An alternative (perhaps) is Migrate. But if both won't work, then this would be a quite big deal...
I was gonna open a thread about this!
I got in touch with the dev on Telegram and that's what he said:
1. How many apps have you tried restoring?
2. By any chance are these apps that are secure? Payment apps, apps with accounts, apps that use encryption using Android Keystore, etc.
3. Pick a small app like Geekbench for testing backup and restore and let me know how it goes.
Also, I was linked to this FAQ: https://swiftapps.org/issues#restorefail
I guess I'm not switching to the 7 Pro until I can find a way to transfer my apps (from a 4 XL).
swift backup worked fine for me. (OP20 pro -> P7 Pro)
But needed to log out in swift backup cause it uses google login.
After that yo have to give swift full root access. Then it worked for me
Restoring apps from P6P is working well for me. The apps that are crashing are likely encrypting data with a master key stored in Android keystore and they crash because master keys can't be transferred between devices.
I tried using Titanium Backup to transfer a few apps' data from Pixel 3XL to 7 Pro, and they all failed. Swift was able to restore data for a certain Candy-based game with success, but that was the only one I tried.
Ghisy said:
I was gonna open a thread about this!
I got in touch with the dev on Telegram and that's what he said:
1. How many apps have you tried restoring?
2. By any chance are these apps that are secure? Payment apps, apps with accounts, apps that use encryption using Android Keystore, etc.
3. Pick a small app like Geekbench for testing backup and restore and let me know how it goes.
Also, I was linked to this FAQ: https://swiftapps.org/issues#restorefail
I guess I'm not switching to the 7 Pro until I can find a way to transfer my apps (from a 4 XL).
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Follow up on this: I chatted with the dev on Telegram and he said most people were able to transfer their stuff to the Pixel 7 without any problem.
He's gonna get one himself soon so he'll be able to test things more thoroughly I guess.
I transfered without issue except on a few that had biometrics setup. I had to clear those and setup manually.
It will fail on 32bit native applications. 32bit is enabled in P6 and disabled in P7.
I have been emailing the developer too. Of the 190 apps that I restored, about 20 of them didn't work after being restored.
Keep my new Pixel 7 Pro in the box? I used a neat trick by letting the Playstore download all my apps. Then just took the time to log in and setup as before. Pictures and videos OTG flash drive. Text Messages and MMS I let Next SMS handle it.
Most of the apps I transferred using Swift worked. TB has been dead on my P6P for awhile unfortunately, just crashes on open so I tried Swift and was able to transfer with maybe a 90% success rate out of 20+ apps that I didn't want to set back up manually. I'm only recalling 2 maybe 3 so far that didn't work. I didn't bother trying anything sensitive like banking/stock/crypto etc.
PSA: v4.2.3 is being pushed to the Play Store.
Pixel 7 users should update asap.
Changelog:
Apps: Fixed an issue on Pixel 7 & Pixel 7 Pro where Swift Backup failed to properly restore apps with split APKS
Apps: Fixes for proper backup of permissions like Picture-in-Picture, WiFi Control and Turn screen on OneDrive: Added retry mechanisms for some temporary OneDrive errors
Wallpapers: Some optimizations when user has a very large number of wallpaper backups
Other fixes
4.2.3 not showing for me here in the uk on play store. still 4.2.2.
it will take a while for it to update across playstore
whatsisnametake2 said:
4.2.3 not showing for me here in the uk on play store. still 4.2.2.
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Probably in a few hours. If you want it right away, it's available on the Telegram Swift Backup channel.
Ghisy said:
Probably in a few hours. If you want it right away, it's available on the Telegram Swift Backup channel.
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cool cheers
Amd4life said:
Either the 7 pro has a new file structure, or Swift Backup is a 32 bit app, which ia no longer allowed on the 7 pro version of A13. Whatever the issue is, if you have important data, keep the 7 pro in the box until another option for restoring app data is available.
Just trying to save folks some time amd effort.
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But why? It also has it's own and was super easy, took only a few minutes connect P6P to P7P via USB. Done. And have done it for myself and other, was easiest transfer/backup so far.
zymphad said:
But why? It also has it's own and was super easy, took only a few minutes connect P6P to P7P via USB. Done. And have done it for myself and other, was easiest transfer/backup so far.
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Not everything gets copied over. Best to hook up the old phone to the computer and run adb pull /sdcard to make a backup of the sdcard. Delete the Android folder from the backup and then drag and drop it onto the new phone. Like my Signal folder didn't get backed up so I had to manually copy it over and restore the backup and none of the non-stock folders in the root of the sdcard storage got brought over either.

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