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Ok, I have MyBackup PRO now and it works GREAT, it backups my installed .apk and Market apps and also backups all my settings and messages etc. Only thing that it does not do is Market links and settings in installed apps, but I havent tried it since I rooted my phone yesterday. So, can someone tell me which one is better and why ? I see that most of the people say that Titanium is No.1 but only thing that it has and it is GREAT feature is ability to uninstall default apps with root but MyBackup has much nicer interface. So, bottom line, which app will be better in restoring when we need it, after flashing new ROM, so which will get the phone in exactly same state as before flashing, like nothing happened ?
So please, some comments, I think that it will help a lot of people
Cheers
Well titanium is good for uninstalling apps that ya dont need but don't let that fool ya as titanium has the ability to backup data aswel which allows you to restore ya app back to its usual self with customisations! amongst other things such as settings, wallpapers, wifi, etc...
but to be honest its wrong to compare them both because they kind of do different things, although my backup does a good job of restoring contacts, apps, messages and more!
I think whoever has both, won't have too much to worry about!!
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Even though Titanium Backup is voted #1 backup for rooted phones, i have not had any luck with it restoring my data or apps... i get the odd force close during restore and once it apparantly restored my contacts but they were never there
Dont get me wrong Titanium Backup is way above the rest when it comes to backing up your data/links/settings pretty much everything (when it works in my case), however i stuck with My Backup Pro as it does exactly what i want... restore my data lol...
Just my 2cence..
Till now MyBackup PRO has done backup/restore of all apps, settings, shortcuts and phonebook flawlessly ! Things that it didnt do is restored wallpaper, widgets AND market links, that is it. And that was with non rooted phone, didnt tried it now with that feature since it says that it restores EVERYTHING including marktet links. So if, that widget - market stuff is working then it cannot be better than this, so Titanium can be the same. Or it does something even better ?
And I dont think that is wrong to compare these two since they both have Backup in their name and that is their purpose, to backup our phones. Only thing that matters is which is better in doing that ? And I think that is stupid to have both apps if we dont have to, or even if you are sure of that, what app should we use for what ?
I use Titanium backup and it fulfills all my needs ..
Titanium backup looks geeky too. I like it that way .. lolz
And that is why I dont like it Does it restore the phone completely, like nothing happened after you flash new firmware ? I like MyBackup PRO a lot but only thing that I am missing is ability to uninstall default apps from ROMs...can I remove E-Mail, Wisepilot and Voice dialer with no problems ? Also, I am using ADW, it eats my memory, can I turn off default launcher to save some RAM ?
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You can remove voice dialer, wisepilot, email and more without a problem I think.
I mean I got rid of them, plus quadropop, track id, playnow, mediascape, messaging (seen as I use chompsms), alarm clock (seen as I use kaloer clock) and many more.
also if your on bout removing the default se launcher and only keeping adw then ye you can.
just be careful of certain apps such as timescape and google stuff.. usually linked to other stuff such as phonebook or market.. best not touching them (yet).. also calendar I think!!
Hope it helps!!
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Yep, it is better now wothout those apps. Someone should make complete list of apps that can be removed since this is not on that list in root thread.
Tnx
Not sure if it was a network thing or related to maybe removing my messaging app but I used to miss quite a few texts from friends/family :-s different timings an all!
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MyBackup Root
MyBackup has just released a special root version for the root community for free..
batch backup/restore, scheduler, backup data to move between roms or different OS versions
ex: backup contacts from 1.x and restore on 2.x
it does most of the the pro version does except there is no online and one device support.
I use my backup root and it always does its job to recover apps and their data after flashing new ROM!
Does my backup back up desktop. Is there a way to restore a desktop instead of manually positioning the apps
Titanium Backup rulez men! It's the best backup app, undoubt.
trikotret said:
Does my backup back up desktop. Is there a way to restore a desktop instead of manually positioning the apps
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Using MyBackup PRO restores the desktop - at least in the attempts I have performed
damirbusic said:
Ok, I have MyBackup PRO now and it works GREAT, it backups my installed .apk and Market apps and also backups all my settings and messages etc. Only thing that it does not do is Market links and settings in installed apps, but I havent tried it since I rooted my phone yesterday. So, can someone tell me which one is better and why ? I see that most of the people say that Titanium is No.1 but only thing that it has and it is GREAT feature is ability to uninstall default apps with root but MyBackup has much nicer interface. So, bottom line, which app will be better in restoring when we need it, after flashing new ROM, so which will get the phone in exactly same state as before flashing, like nothing happened ?
So please, some comments, I think that it will help a lot of people
Cheers
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I like MyBackup Root and prefer it over Ti Backup....although now that I have TBP I'm gonna give it a shot next time I got to flash a rom
Titanium backup pro is a million times better.
I had some issues with mybackup..
IMO there is no comparison
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MyBackup has just released a special root version for the root community for free...
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I think root version is a limited version?? in description "Will work on 1 device.
" does it mean one device per account/ Or you can use your saved data on 1 device?
scoobysnacks said:
Titanium backup pro is a million times better.
I had some issues with mybackup..
IMO there is no comparison
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Had some issues too and decided to switch to Titanium, which has so many options:: Freezing app, multiple saves par app.. automatic/schedulde..
And the dev is realy responding to user recommandation.
Out of subject: I'm very dissapointed that some app on the market never get updated (i mean real update and not bug fixes) since so LONG and gain profit only because they are in top paid app.. For example Root Explorer 206ko of line of code/ never updated / Poor UI/.. and all of this for 3€.. ... I wish I had skills to developp a concurent app.
Ceballos said:
I think root version is a limited version?? in description "Will work on 1 device.
" does it mean one device per account/ Or you can use your saved data on 1 device?
Had some issues too and decided to switch to Titanium, which has so many options:: Freezing app, multiple saves par app.. automatic/schedulde..
And the dev is realy responding to user recommandation.
Out of subject: I'm very dissapointed that some app on the market never get updated (i mean real update and not bug fixes) since so LONG and gain profit only because they are in top paid app.. For example Root Explorer 206ko of line of code/ never updated / Poor UI/.. and all of this for 3€.. ... I wish I had skills to developp a concurent app.
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Failing that, the,only thing root explorer has going for it is the change rw permissions button. There are dozens of better file explorers that lack this one feature.
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Does my backup pro/root uninstall system apps??
And tatnium backup doesnt backup contacts and sms...
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Only problem I have is that after I backed up on Back up pro like I always do & works fine, That it will not find the files, Would not restore for that reason, Im not to happy with the FROYO 2.2 thing, other than that it works good & fast.
Can some one help me on how to restore after the update
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I had the same issue....Back Up Pro could not find the apps. But I chalked it up to a different ROM. and reinstalled my apps the old fashioned way. I have since learned to list ny Apps so when I find the paid ones they will install.
So Im really worried about the data ? How can I get that, Is there another back up app better ? thats whats bothering me.
Use Titanium Backup. It now works with Froyo on the Captivate. Another option, for apps only, is to get an Appbrain account and sync your apps with Appbrain. That way, if the worst happens at least you can reinstall from there, but you won't have the data.
mobius911 said:
Use Titanium Backup. It now works with Froyo on the Captivate. Another option, for apps only, is to get an Appbrain account and sync your apps with Appbrain. That way, if the worst happens at least you can reinstall from there, but you won't have the data.
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AppBrain has been brilliant for app restores for me. That is one thing I always hated about flashing roms/doing resets, and although you still have to click through the permissions, it works great. The fast web installer is awesome too...
yeah i just use appbrain
Titanium Backup is Better
TB (Titanium Backup) is better to use because it can restore not just the app, but the data and settings as well. All AB (Appbrain) does is perform a reinstall of the app minus any data you may have created with the app.
A good example would be your email app. With TB you would get back all your email configuration and settings. While with AB, you would have to go through the process of setting up your email account info all over again as well as any other config settings.
If you use LauncherPro, you know how tedious it is to set it up just the way you like. Use TB and you get it back just the way you left it without having to go through the lengthy customization process.
ozone777 said:
TB (Titanium Backup) is better to use because it can restore not just the app, but the data and settings as well. All AB (Appbrain) does is perform a reinstall of the app minus any data you may have created with the app.
A good example would be your email app. With TB you would get back all your email configuration and settings. While with AB, you would have to go through the process of setting up your email account info all over again as well as any other config settings.
If you use LauncherPro, you know how tedious it is to set it up just the way you like. Use TB and you get it back just the way you left it without having to go through the lengthy customization process.
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Restore apps only. Do not restore data or it could cause incompatibility and fc's.
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Rhiannon224 said:
Restore apps only. Do not restore data or it could cause incompatibility and fc's.
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Chainfire (edit) Darkstriker told me the same in i9000 faq thread. He seemed to think it's discussed everywhere and obvious. Well I've read through at least a couple of the most recent active threads on the topic, and certainly it is not posted everywhere and is not obvious.
Can you point to a thread detailing specific instances of problems? All the problems I've read about are with SYSTEM DATA... widegets and SMS mostly. I have not found anyone mentioning problems with normal app data.
edit: and BTW three apps failing out of a couple of hundred is a big so what.. so long as un-install and re-install of those apps fix it without messing up the whole system. I thought it's pretty hard for a single app to do too much damage to the whole system in android.
Man, I am loving this tablet! I am totally addicted to the higher resolution...
Anyway, I've got almost everything configured the way I like and I was thinking about backups. If my device died, I wouldn't want to reconfigure my settings, add all my bookmarks again, etc.
What are you guys using to backup your device? Any suggestions on applications that work well with Honeycomb? I'd really like to have it so I could take a new Transformer, restore my backup and have things just like they are now.
If you havent rooted, I'd say try this:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackupPro
It looks **** onscreen but does the job well.
If you have rooted get Titanium Backup Pro:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup&feature=search_result
Does a very good job.
Bookmarks, contacts, email accounts, and wifi should all be backed up to your Google account. It will even backup which apps you had installed and redownload those as well.
You can go a step further with the stock browsing app and sync your bookmarks with chrome, which to me is one of my favorite features.
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It will even backup which apps you had installed and redownload those as well.
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Yeah, but only the ones you got from the Market.
If you are in the habit of getting APKs from... er... different places, you will need something for saving them.
A very nice app to do that is File Expert, which not only works as an excellent file manager (with working SMB support and streaming... whohooo!), but it also backs up all the installed apps (if you want even the system ones) to a single directory.
I flashed lots of roms and after I flash a new rom it starts to download the apps I had downloaded when I had my Mytouch 4G it even brings back the old wallpaper. What can I do to save my new apps I currently use. I do have the backup my data on and automatic restore on just a little annoying that it brings a lot of apps back that I don't use. I also know I can just use titanium backup but I like the fact the google even restores your home screen's how you left them set up.
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I flashed lots of roms and after I flash a new rom it starts to download the apps I had downloaded when I had my Mytouch 4G it even brings back the old wallpaper. What can I do to save my new apps I currently use. I do have the backup my data on and automatic restore on just a little annoying that it brings a lot of apps back that I don't use. I also know I can just use titanium backup but I like the fact the google even restores your home screen's how you left them set up.
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i think its a bug in the google restore system. it seems to 'forget' that you are not using some apps anymore.
ill bet that all of the apps that you are not using anymore but are being downloaded are paid ones right?
Klathmon said:
i think its a bug in the google restore system. it seems to 'forget' that you are not using some apps anymore.
ill bet that all of the apps that you are not using anymore but are being downloaded are paid ones right?
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Actually it does not download the paid ones like for example rom manager it will download the free version but won't download the key I paid for or even set cpu which I bought way before I had a Mytouch 4G.
When I flash different ROMs nothing ever comes down for me. But I just use Titanium Backup to back up my user apps before I flash and restore after and that keeps the apps I want.
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When I flash different ROMs nothing ever comes down for me. But I just use Titanium Backup to back up my user apps before I flash and restore after and that keeps the apps I want.
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Well when I flash any ics rom it usually ask if I want to restore my apps I just like that it sets up all your home screens the way you left them set up and even the wallpaper I was using. It's not that big of a deal I know I can just use Titanium to restore just thought it was a step I was missing.
I know there are a lot of posts on how to restore apps after flashing a new ROM. I have only done this twice so far and both times I used Titanium Pro to restore the apps and data. However each time I have had a number of apps that didn't work or didn't work correctly until I uninstalled and then reinstalled them. If I let the Play Store reinstall my apps (and side load the ones not in the store) I shouldn't have this problem. I was wondering if anyone could comment on how long that approach would take and what issues I may run into doing it that way. I don't really need to reinstall the data for many apps and I have those settings, etc. (like Nova Launcher and Elixir) backed up where the program can reload them after I install it.
Thanks for any experiences you can share and any advice you can provide.
Wyvern49 said:
I know there are a lot of posts on how to restore apps after flashing a new ROM. I have only done this twice so far and both times I used Titanium Pro to restore the apps and data. However each time I have had a number of apps that didn't work or didn't work correctly until I uninstalled and then reinstalled them. If I let the Play Store reinstall my apps (and side load the ones not in the store) I shouldn't have this problem. I was wondering if anyone could comment on how long that approach would take and what issues I may run into doing it that way. I don't really need to reinstall the data for many apps and I have those settings, etc. (like Nova Launcher and Elixir) backed up where the program can reload them after I install it.
Thanks for any experiences you can share and any advice you can provide.
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Try gobackup not the pro version, just the free one before it was tooken down from the play store. I believe you can Google search the apk.
Wyvern49 said:
I know there are a lot of posts on how to restore apps after flashing a new ROM. I have only done this twice so far and both times I used Titanium Pro to restore the apps and data. However each time I have had a number of apps that didn't work or didn't work correctly until I uninstalled and then reinstalled them. If I let the Play Store reinstall my apps (and side load the ones not in the store) I shouldn't have this problem. I was wondering if anyone could comment on how long that approach would take and what issues I may run into doing it that way. I don't really need to reinstall the data for many apps and I have those settings, etc. (like Nova Launcher and Elixir) backed up where the program can reload them after I install it.
Thanks for any experiences you can share and any advice you can provide.
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It can be pretty quick or it can take seemingly forever depending on the number of apps you have. I have a little 130 and it takes about 2 hours, on a constant 12mbps (1.3-6MBps) connection.
I had a problem when I first used Tibu with Maildroid being crazy as hell until I uninstalled it, reinstalled it, and set it back up. I was also having the same problem when I restored a CWM backup. I went and deleted every backup I had made in Tibu and all my nandroids and tried backing the apps up again and it worked for about 3 flashes and then Maildroid was going crazy again. I finally just Odin'ed back to stock cause I was having a few other issues, GPS & NFC, and once I went back to stock VRALG7 and fully wiped everything and rerooted, flashed recovery, and unlocked I haven't had a problem with anything since. The only thing I have changed is my recovery, went to TWRP, and everything is smooth sailing. I had been using CWM touch, it was the latest version that I was on before Odin'ing, and I really think there is some kind of issue with CWM not backing up right because I had tons of issues and even when restoring to the stock ROM my phone came out of the box on I couldn't get GPS or NFC to work.
But if you don't have many apps you could let the Play store restore you apps, I never used Tibu until this phone and was really skeptical of it cause of the corrupted Maildroid problems I was having but this is hands down one of the best apps I own. Also I'm pretty sure you can use ROM Manager to backup your apps and restore them.
If I were you I would wipe the Tibu backup folder, after you had completely re-downloaded and installed your apps from the market, and then back them up again and see if that worked. Also my Maps backup never ever works, I have to re-download it every time.
There is also MyBackup Pro, I used it before this phone, but its not great in the GS3. It takes about 45 minutes to back up my apps and it freezes constantly, never had this problem with it until this phone though.
You could also try using Tibu's flashable zip creator that was just added. It makes a flashable zip of you app backup folder so you still want to redo all your apps to make sure that it just isn't a once in a lifetime bug that cause a couple of your apps to be corrupted.
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Best way I have found is to use AppMonster Pro.
That app allows you to make an "old style backup" which saves the APK from every app you have installed.
That way, after you flash a rom, you can click the APKs and do a true clean install of every app which is FAR more dependable than a TIBU restore. Although I have TIBU Pro, I rarely use it anymore.
Thanks everyone. All the info is much appreciated.
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Best way I have found is to use AppMonster Pro.
That app allows you to make an "old style backup" which saves the APK from every app you have installed.
That way, after you flash a rom, you can click the APKs and do a true clean install of every app which is FAR more dependable than a TIBU restore. Although I have TIBU Pro, I rarely use it anymore.
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If you actually look in the Tibu folder it saves all of apps as APK's also and you can choose to back up your apps without the app data. The way I've always always understood it is that you can do a true clean install with Tibu too. Now I may be wrong with this but that's just the way I've understood it.
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Wyvern49 said:
Thanks everyone. All the info is much appreciated.
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I hope you figure out how to keep the apps from becoming corrupted. If you do let us know what worked and what all you went through before the apps stopped installing corrupted.
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I just use Titanium Backup.
I'm going to give TiBu a try first since I think it will be the quickest way to do this. I also did a backup using AppMonster. If I run into issues with TiBu I'll start over again and try AppMonster. All I need now is a block of time to do the update. First Thanksgiving, then taking my grandson to see the train display at the Botanical Gardens, today out with both daughters (separately) helping with their Christmas shopping and doing some of our own. Maybe tomorrow I'll have a free block of time.
I'll let everyone know how it goes. Thanks again.
I've made the switch to ROM toolbox. The free version let's me batch install apps just no data which I prefer anyways. Then I don't have to click for every app.
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I finally got time to update to Clean ROM 5.0 and it went fairly well. I used TiBu but had a few apps that had to be reinstalled so I used the AppMonster backup apk's and everything went well. Restoring the data via TiBu went well for all of my apps that need it done except for Red Laser which lost all the loyalty card info. Not a big deal as its easy to rescan the cards.
Thanks again for all the advice and info.
Maybe i'm just a noob but i dont understand how these backup apps work. I've backed up my apps then rom'd my phone but can't get my apps back cause the back up app isn't there anymore... Is it in the cwm recovery ? Confused
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Depends on the backup app you use. In general, you can install the backup app from Play Store and then you should be able to use it to restore your backed up apps. If you use a backup app the saves your apps as apk files, just install them from the apk. You can also install the apps from the Play Store again like you did originally.
Hope this helps.
I have been using TiBu for a long time and it works great and saves a huge amount of time. Sometimes I also get an app acting wacky after a flash. Just use it and if you have a problem with an app just go to settings and clear data for the specific app. It will save a lot of time doing it that way!!
Is there any issues with restoring User Apps & Data that were backed up under an ICS ROM, onto a flashed JellyBean ROM? I wouldn't think so, but wanted to ask. I know system apps & data would be bad, but not sure about user apps.
Wyvern49 said:
I know there are a lot of posts on how to restore apps after flashing a new ROM. I have only done this twice so far and both times I used Titanium Pro to restore the apps and data. However each time I have had a number of apps that didn't work or didn't work correctly until I uninstalled and then reinstalled them. If I let the Play Store reinstall my apps (and side load the ones not in the store) I shouldn't have this problem. I was wondering if anyone could comment on how long that approach would take and what issues I may run into doing it that way. I don't really need to reinstall the data for many apps and I have those settings, etc. (like Nova Launcher and Elixir) backed up where the program can reload them after I install it.
Thanks for any experiences you can share and any advice you can provide.
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I use super back up , its free and backs up apps , sms ,contacts ,call logs and calander. It also has batch install
I use titanium, have been using it for years. Restoring apps plus data can cause them to be a little screwy. I only restore data on games.
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Try this. Make a Nandroid. If you're flashing a ROM that uses the same version of Android, just restore data. When flashing nightlies I learned, that all you have to do is WIPE, flash your ROM, then do an advanced restore of data only (No TiBU, you do this before you leave recovery). Now everything is there, nice and clean, homescreen, apps, setup, and even your alarm clock! Takes 5 minutes.
I'm stilla newb so if you're like "duh," don't flame me! :laugh::laugh:
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Try this. Make a Nandroid. If you're flashing a ROM that uses the same version of Android, just restore data. When flashing nightlies I learned, that all you have to do is WIPE, flash your ROM, then do an advanced restore of data only (No TiBU, you do this before you leave recovery). Now everything is there, nice and clean, homescreen, apps, setup, and even your alarm clock! Takes 5 minutes.
I'm stilla newb so if you're like "duh," don't flame me! :laugh::laugh:
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That works, but if you're doing that don't bother factory resetting before flashing. All you do is erase the data to put it back on
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kintwofan said:
That works, but if you're doing that don't bother factory resetting before flashing. All you do is erase the data to put it back on
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OK cool! I knew I was putting the data back on but I guess I thought I was wiping other things as well with this method.
Thanks for that!
lennie paz said:
I just use Titanium Backup.
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Same here and I've never had any problems with it. I was restoring apps+data but I started having problems after I became a flashaholic so now I only restore apps and spend the extra time relogging in/setting up my apps. Yes it takes longer but it'll save you from problems in the long run.
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