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So i just received my Z5 (black) on Friday and while taking some low light and night photo shots I noticed a blue/purple tint to the top left corner of images. Testing the camera against a black background confirmed the discoloration. Photos were taken 16:9 8mp in auto mode. I have attached to samples taken while the camera was covered to produce the tint. Anyone else experience this?
Edit: Flash was off for both of these. The first photo was ISO 6400 and the second 12800
That's commonly seen when the ISO used is too large, usually in low light photos. Like there's some light coming out of the camera sensor. Could you check the ISO on those photos?
itsjustJOH said:
That's commonly seen when the ISO used is too large, usually in low light photos. Like there's some light coming out of the camera sensor. Could you check the ISO on those photos?
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I updated the first post with the ISO values. I didn't see this behaviour with my Z3+ so I was curious as to hardware versus software problems.
Well, my Z3+ does the same if I try to shoot in a completely dark room (I was trying to make my own black wallpaper lol) . It's caused by the high ISO. You could shoot in manual with lowest ISO in a dark place to get pitch black output.
schecter7 said:
Well, my Z3+ does the same if I try to shoot in a completely dark room (I was trying to make my own black wallpaper lol) . It's caused by the high ISO. You could shoot in manual with lowest ISO in a dark place to get pitch black output.
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Interesting. Do you get more tinting on one side of the image versus the other? Even with the high iso the output colour is not random and seems concentrated on the upper left side. Just want to make sure it isn't a sensor/lens issue. Thanks for the reply!
Try Night portrait and Night scene. They both use much lower ISO (especially Night scene).
Same issue plagued the Z3 sadly, looks like no improvement in this regard.
I've seen the tint in many samples over the past few weeks
joe_dude said:
Try Night portrait and Night scene. They both use much lower ISO (especially Night scene).
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Can confirm with night scene the output is nearly all black
FerroFlux said:
Interesting. Do you get more tinting on one side of the image versus the other? Even with the high iso the output colour is not random and seems concentrated on the upper left side. Just want to make sure it isn't a sensor/lens issue. Thanks for the reply!
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I did a 180 degree test earlier on Z3+ to make sure it's not a lens/sensor issue. Z5 does the same. You also need to make sure it's equally dark on both sides. Try it out. FYI, high/12800 ISO is not a bad thing. It's actually the best feature for shooting in 'low' light.
schecter7 said:
I did a 180 degree test earlier on Z3+ to make sure it's not a lens/sensor issue. Z5 does the same. You also need to make sure it's equally dark on both sides. Try it out. FYI, high/12800 ISO is not a bad thing. It's actually the best feature for shooting in 'low' light.
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Just by testing the camera in different orientations (i.e., 180 degrees between pics) it seems like the brightness is not the same on both sides. While rotated 180 the bottom right corner exhibits the same slight blue tint as the initial top left corner.
FerroFlux said:
Just by testing the camera in different orientations (i.e., 180 degrees between pics) it seems like the brightness is not the same on both sides. While rotated 180 the bottom right corner exhibits the same slight blue tint as the initial top left corner.
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Just don't use SA when shooting low light photos. It ramps up the ISO way too high that causes that and also over exposes a shot and blurs the photo because of too much noise. Try testing it in a moderately lit (artificial light) room and try SA, manual with different ISOs and Night Mode on scenes.
schecter7 said:
I did a 180 degree test earlier on Z3+ to make sure it's not a lens/sensor issue. Z5 does the same. You also need to make sure it's equally dark on both sides. Try it out. FYI, high/12800 ISO is not a bad thing. It's actually the best feature for shooting in 'low' light.
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12800 ISO is not a bad thing, unless you're using a phone. Cameras on mobile, including the Z5, are just way too small compared to real cameras with large sensors and better hardware that just can't fit (yet) in a phone. Sony thought they would win the low-light mobile phone photography contest by introducing that insane high ISO, everyone else thought otherwise. It overexposes (way over) the shot and blurs everything to reduce too much noise. That's in the auto mode, which all tech review sites use in their reviews and that's why the Z5 (since the 12800 ISO was introduced in Z3) gets trashed in their comparison. At least you could still shoot a proper low-light photo using the manual controls by controlling the exposure and ISO levels, or choosing night mode.
Low-light means low light - you need high ISO. There's no way around high ISO in low-light when you're shooting from mobile phones. Using that, you can take shots from Xperias with relatively higher details in 'low' light.
What you're saying is a entirely different thing. The camera sw abuses the ISO when it shouldn't - those are moderate/challenging lights. That's not low light & it's a different discussion.
Here are some shots from Z3+ & S6 (read again - this is 'low' light) I posted earlier. Definitely, higher ISO came handy this time.
http://fortheloveoftech.com/2014/10/24/sony-xperia-z3-vs-nokia-lumia-1020-the-gold-standard-test/
Could anyone post a pic of their Z5's performance with the lens covered? I was going to exchange mine but the seller provided a picture taken using another in-stock Z5 that shows the same issue (strong blue tinting on the left side) at 12800 iso. Just curious if it could be fixed with an update to the camera or if it is a permanent hardware issue.
Z5 -> http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/schecter_7/media/DSC_1086_zpsbdtdubhk.jpg.html
Z3+ -> http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/schecter_7/media/DSC_1148_zpslikyyway.jpg.html
Same issue here. Theres going to be a bit no matter what, even what schecter posted I can still see the tint in a dark room
Yep, heres a video skip to 1:10 which shows the elevator scene Sonys camera is PURPLE
The Sony Xperia Z5 is a product in japan and its all feature is outstanding that is why i think there is no reason to be worried .Use the best product and love you very much .
Is this a hardware or software issue? I have a similar problem with my Z5 Compact, and am thinking whether I should exchange it...
i have the same issue too, no matter how i adjust i am unable to get rip of the purple tint in auto or Manual mode while taking a pitch black picture. at first i thought is my case but i remove the case still the same problem. day time takes great pictures
I am in thoughts on buying a Mate 9, but one thing that makes me a bit worried is that Mate 9 seems to have heavy noise reduction on the camera.
It is very visible on indoor and night shots, just look at the sandstones and the water in this picture.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4293/35964186712_727e8c4eba_k.jpg
But aslo in daylight, look at the grass middle to right in the this picture, it looks really greasy/blury
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/reviews/16/huawei-mate-9/camera/gsmarena_040.jpg
The same thing is in the whole of this picture, it isnt sharp like on other phones like Oneplus 3T, Pixel, Nexus 6P....
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/200232-image/Huawei-Mate--9-sample-images.jpg
So my question is:
1) is it possible to turn of noise reduction in the camera or does it get better in Professional Mode?
2) are there any guide on the web that compares Pro Mode to Auto mode with Mate 9?
@Peterrrrr said:
I am in thoughts on buying a Mate 9, but one thing that makes me a bit worried is that Mate 9 seems to have heavy noise reduction on the camera.
It is very visible on indoor and night shots, just look at the sandstones and the water in this picture.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4293/3...7e8c4eba_k.jpg
But aslo in daylight, look at the grass middle to right in the this picture, it looks really greasy/blury
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/imgroot/revi...marena_040.jpg
The same thing is in the whole of this picture, it isnt sharp like on other phones like Oneplus 3T, Pixel, Nexus 6P....
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/r...ple-images.jpg
So my question is:
1) is it possible to turn of noise reduction in the camera or does it get better in Professional Mode?
2) are there any guide on the web that compares Pro Mode to Auto mode with Mate 9?
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As far as I know, in Pro mode all the filters and sharpening are disabled, plus you have the option to save in RAW format.
Did you guys notice visible ghosting effect when scrolling something? Especially with gray background screen looks very blurred. In comparing it to my pixel 2xl and s8. Very annoying.
Also, when recording something with horizontal move there is very visible rolling shutter effect.
I must say I noticed it more when I made my display warmer. Recently made my display a bit colder to match the Mate 10 Pro and now I don't see the ghosting anymore
Hi everyone!
Which resolution do you use, 12 mpx or 20 mpx? 12mpx gives you hybrid zoom x2 but phone only uses rgb lens, while 20mpx supposedly uses both lenses to create a hybrid colour/b&w pic. So which do you use? I have it on 12mpx in order to use zoom but don't really know which is best.
Cheers!
It actually depends on your preference and the situation you want to create in the photo. I use the 20mp when shooting wide angle landscapes, while im using the 12mp when shooting portraits or closeups
earl_110 said:
It actually depends on your preference and the situation you want to create in the photo. I use the 20mp when shooting wide angle landscapes, while im using the 12mp when shooting portraits or closeups
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Thanks for replying! I've actually found that shooting a normal close up pic on 12mpx shoots in kind of a wide-angle effect. Last friday celebrating carnival at school, I was able to fit in a whole class of 28 kids from a few feet away. If u look at the pic, it looks like it has been shot on a wide-angle lens!
Any more opinions on camera config are more than welcome!
I don't believe that the 20MPx option uses both cameras. When you partially cover the B&W sensor, there is no noticable effect on the photo. Looks like it is only software based up-scaling and may get you jagged edges sometimes. After some testing with 20MPx and then 20MPx resized to 12MPx just for comparison, I prefer the 12MPx default setting.
_Marian_ said:
I don't believe that the 20MPx option uses both cameras. When you partially cover the B&W sensor, there is no noticable effect on the photo. Looks like it is only software based up-scaling and may get you jagged edges sometimes. After some testing with 20MPx and then 20MPx resized to 12MPx just for comparison, I prefer the 12MPx default setting.
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Hi Marian, thanks for your reply!
So on a phone with a dual camera, what would be the purpose of the dual lens?? If one is rgb and the other monocrome, don't they both work together to provide depth information and zoom? Or do all colour pics use just the one rgb lens and the other is exclusively for b&w pics?? Seems a little pointless to me...
You are totally right about the sw upscale to 20mp as any other camera app only detects a maximum resolution of 12 mp, but it seems strange to me that even on 12mp colour pictutes, the phone wouldn't use both lens (depth and zoom) because the inferior P20 Lite precisely doess that on all the reviews I read about it (I've always thought that was the point of all dual-lens cameras).
Cheers!
The B&W sensor should provide depth information. You can try different camera modes and cover the B&W sensor. The phone says "Please do not cover the lenses." in some camera modes. But if you don't put finger too close, nothing happens. I can't tell it does anything at all to the image quality which seems strange. Did they made some mistake in latest build? It only does have some effect on aperture mode when you can see heat haze effect on display. It sucks we don't have more options like jpg quality or sliders for post-process filters.
Hello,
Currently, if you go on video mode, the wide angle lens can only be activated when you choose 4K 30p setting. But if you turn on 4K60 setting, you're unable to use the wide angle lens.
I'm making this thread to see if anyone also has a clue or a way to force the camera app to record in 4K 60 frames in wide angle mode.
Furthermore, people with OnePlus 8 Pro can film with those settings on, but 8T cannot. Is that because the wide angle lens is using a different sensor and its not optimised?
Pictures below show one of someone's OnePlus 8 Pro and the one with the wall in the background is me with what I see on my 8T. As you can see, there's no "0.6" zoom visible.
Tefzors said:
Hello,
Currently, if you go on video mode, the wide angle lens can only be activated when you choose 4K 30p setting. But if you turn on 4K60 setting, you're unable to use the wide angle lens.
I'm making this thread to see if anyone also has a clue or a way to force the camera app to record in 4K 60 frames in wide angle mode.
Furthermore, people with OnePlus 8 Pro can film with those settings on, but 8T cannot. Is that because the wide angle lens is using a different sensor and its not optimised?
Pictures below show one of someone's OnePlus 8 Pro and the one with the wall in the background is me with what I see on my 8T. As you can see, there's no "0.6" zoom visible.
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Have you tried changing your aspect ratio to 21:9? That's a difference I see in your two screenshots. Doubt that's it but maybe we can see this in a future update!?
Oh also maybe cause you don't have a grid? (hahaha okay that was just mean) I'd like to see this too!
UltraIV said:
Have you tried changing your aspect ratio to 21:9? That's a difference I see in your two screenshots. Doubt that's it but maybe we can see this in a future update!?
Oh also maybe cause you don't have a grid? (hahaha okay that was just mean) I'd like to see this too!
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Unfortunately these reasons alone aren't the reason why you may think the 60fps on wide angle isn't showing up. The feature is simply non existent on 8T. I am wondering if anyone could figure out a way to do it thru magisk or something like that.