Hi everyone!!
I'd like to get some advice about my issue that I've been having for a while...
My battery drain is what you may see in my attachments. Please tell me some good advice to reduce this drain or whether it is normal functioning either...
In conclusion, I'd like to know if it might be convenient to replace the battery and, furthermore, whether there are larger batteries with more autonomy.
My phone is 2 years and half old but to be honest I use it intensively with its battery-case (manufacturer: Newdery).
Thanks!!!
Sorry for late reply, just saw this.
You get 6 hours of battery life with 14% screen on time? That doesn't sound to correct.
My suggestion would be to install the app: AccuBattery. I swear by it - it is very good I think. It will watch your apps much better than the stock android battery monitor. It will also tell you your battery health, the mAh left out of the total of 4000. If you have a very low amount left (capacity wise) then you may want to get a new battery. But make sure to do several charges before taking it as accurate. Use the app for several days, even the little "notes" in the app will tell you this - it's to "acclimate" to your use and give you more accurate statistics.
Hopefully this helps - 6 hours is definitely not good.
theslam08 said:
Sorry for late reply, just saw this.
You get 6 hours of battery life with 14% screen on time? That doesn't sound to correct.
My suggestion would be to install the app: AccuBattery. I swear by it - it is very good I think. It will watch your apps much better than the stock android battery monitor. It will also tell you your battery health, the mAh left out of the total of 4000. If you have a very low amount left (capacity wise) then you may want to get a new battery. But make sure to do several charges before taking it as accurate. Use the app for several days, even the little "notes" in the app will tell you this - it's to "acclimate" to your use and give you more accurate statistics.
Hopefully this helps - 6 hours is definitely not good.
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Hi!!
Thank you very much for your reply!
I forgot it but I already had Accubattery installed on my phone.
In fact, in attachment you have the battery wear data from April 2021 till now..
I hope that I shared you useful data to analyse the issue.
What do you think? What should I take from the app?
I thought that the new Android version 11 is the cause of battery drain as another phone (Xiaomi Redmi Note 10) suffers from it after the upgrade to Android 11..
umby75 said:
Hi!!
Thank you very much for your reply!
I forgot it but I already had Accubattery installed on my phone.
In fact, in attachment you have the battery wear data from April 2021 till now..
I hope that I shared you useful data to analyse the issue.
What do you think? What should I take from the app?
I thought that the new Android version 11 is the cause of battery drain as another phone (Xiaomi Redmi Note 10) suffers from it after the upgrade to Android 11..
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No prob
Could you take an [extended/full] screenshot of the "Discharge" tab? That will show more info about which app is draining more. Also those numbers change I believe on every charge so you'd have to just keep an eye on which app is always at the top of the section under "Foreground App Battery Usage > Battery Usage" section. Hopefully it isn't just "system" or something, hopefully it is an app that you can remove/freeze.
And what does it say for Battery Capacity above the "Battery Wear" chart?
And speaking of the wear chart, you'll want to stop charging all the way to 100%, it looks like you're putting over 1 cycle of wear on the battery very often which will degrade the battery quicker. The 'Charging" tab explains this even allowing you to set a reminder to unplug at a certain charge level (it tells you the higher you charge the more wear you put on the battery - unfortunately that's how batteries work).
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Could you take an [extended/full] screenshot of the "Discharge" tab? That will show more info about which app is draining more. Also those numbers change I believe on every charge so you'd have to just keep an eye on which app is always at the top of the section under "Foreground App Battery Usage > Battery Usage" section. Hopefully it isn't just "system" or something, hopefully it is an app that you can remove/freeze.
And what does it say for Battery Capacity above the "Battery Wear" chart?
And speaking of the wear chart, you'll want to stop charging all the way to 100%, it looks like you're putting over 1 cycle of wear on the battery very often which will degrade the battery quicker. The 'Charging" tab explains this even allowing you to set a reminder to unplug at a certain charge level (it tells you the higher you charge the more wear you put on the battery - unfortunately that's how batteries work).
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Hi, thank you for your reply!!
I'm sorry for my late replies..
In the attachments you have what you asked me.
It seems that Facebook drains the battery a lot despite the fact that I don't use it much.
The battery wear seems to be almost one fifth of total capacity for a capacity of about 3200mhA.
I'd like to have something better...
I have set at 83% the alert to reduce the wear of the battery but I wonder how it could work fine when the phone is turned off..
No problem
So, I'm not exactly sure how you use your phone but it looks like the screen-on at 23%/hr looks pretty bad but then also it says combined time was 102 hours? I believe that means how long it's been off the charger. If that's the case you can't get any better battery life than that, that is really really good.
You mention facebook doing a lot of draining. Try researching a good app freezing option on the app store. I only did a quick search but this one came up: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox but read the reviews (I did a quick scan and it looks like it might work as intended) and look around maybe there is a better one. But the point of this is, to freeze any apps in that list (the accubattery foreground apps) you barely use and it will prevent them from running in the background. This will definitely give you better battery life.
And I don't see the deep sleep statistic, is that around 90hrs along with the screen off time? It should be more than the screen off time at least, because if it is then it is deep sleeping correctly (no rouge apps causing it to not deep sleep), but if it's less than the screen off time, then something (maybe facebook) is keeping the phone awake even with the screen off, causing extra battery drain.
And 83% charge is pretty good, maybe even 75% might be better, I think from 0 to 75 it's like .3 or .4 wear but it's like with these batteries once you start going over 75% it jumps in wear dramatically. And if the phone is off (turned off completely you mean?) then the battery won't gain any wear because it won't be in use at all.
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No problem
So, I'm not exactly sure how you use your phone but it looks like the screen-on at 23%/hr looks pretty bad but then also it says combined time was 102 hours? I believe that means how long it's been off the charger. If that's the case you can't get any better battery life than that, that is really really good.
You mention facebook doing a lot of draining. Try researching a good app freezing option on the app store. I only did a quick search but this one came up: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox but read the reviews (I did a quick scan and it looks like it might work as intended) and look around maybe there is a better one. But the point of this is, to freeze any apps in that list (the accubattery foreground apps) you barely use and it will prevent them from running in the background. This will definitely give you better battery life.
And I don't see the deep sleep statistic, is that around 90hrs along with the screen off time? It should be more than the screen off time at least, because if it is then it is deep sleeping correctly (no rouge apps causing it to not deep sleep), but if it's less than the screen off time, then something (maybe facebook) is keeping the phone awake even with the screen off, causing extra battery drain.
And 83% charge is pretty good, maybe even 75% might be better, I think from 0 to 75 it's like .3 or .4 wear but it's like with these batteries once you start going over 75% it jumps in wear dramatically. And if the phone is off (turned off completely you mean?) then the battery won't gain any wear because it won't be in use at all.
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I noticed that I didn't make all the screenshots, but now I've just done them with regards to this new discharge cycle and you have the deep sleep statistics for a better analysis - they are in attachments.
I asked here for a longer battery lasting and instead I set it as 75% as the maximum percentage value of charge that reduces my autonomy but saves the battery.
However, yesterday I noticed that the charging wasn't deactivated when the phone reached 80% of charge (is the value that was set yesterday). Oughtn't Accubattery deactivate the charging?
The statistics you mentioned in your previous post appear to me a bit awkward even though they are related to many sessions in the last 7 days.
I use my phone with my phone case-battery (Newdery manufacturer) and until few months ago it could charge the phone up to about 80 % when I couldn't charge my phone through its charger. I need the charge to last a day, almost 20 hrs…
I noticed that the phone started to wear - the last few months - when I noticed that I couldn't have the phone working till the late evening and I tried to charge it fully before I left my house...
However, it is clear what I need for my use and habits, thus, new reliable battery-case suggestions would be a good hint for me...
In the end, I don't know what to do about apps that manage the apps freezing because I don't know how Android allows it and if it is worth it..
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I stopped by an AT&T corporate store to get a hands on with the Captivate. The salesperson there tried to tell me that the standby time on the device was 15 days if you kept apps from running by downloading an app killer. I asked if he really meant 15 days if no radios were running. He said "nope, 15 days is pretty easy".
Really, folks... what is reality here? Is it similar to other smartphones, where a day with moderate use is reasonable?
There is no way the phone will last 15 days in standby even with a good task killer. How can the sales rep tell you this if he only had the phone in store for 2 days?
That's a very good point... but he was very sure of his claim. I pulled out the "I'm very skeptical" response and walked away. Oh well, looks like once again, truth is in the internets somewhere, not in someone who should know such things.
Another element to this is whether an upgrade to 2.2 will increase battery life. I work away from any ability to charge and really need a phone to hold up all day.
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That's a very good point... but he was very sure of his claim. I pulled out the "I'm very skeptical" response and walked away. Oh well, looks like once again, truth is in the internets somewhere, not in someone who should know such things.
Another element to this is whether an upgrade to 2.2 will increase battery life. I work away from any ability to charge and really need a phone to hold up all day.
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Well, my N1 holds charge for about 1 day with moderate use. As soon as I play with the GPS and google's built in nav system I get maybe 4 hours worth of usage. Another issue I have with my N1 is that my car charger cannot keep up with the drain, so even plugged into the charger the battery percentage is decreasing. Sure hope the Captivate is better in that respect.
Froyo did increase battery life a bit but it is not earth shattering. The advantage of this phone is the larger capacity battery and hopefully a less power hungry samsung processor than the qualcom snapdragon.
I am sure within the next few days we will have some folks with more concrete consumption estimates.
i don't know... while the 15 day claim is a bit much, mine was fine with heavy usage all day yesterday on the half charge that it came with from AT&T... given that, i think that it should last 2-4 days easily with only light-moderate usage.
My battery lasts me all day. It's just marginally worse than my 3GS I think... My 3GS always had extra at the end whereas my Captivate seems to run out when I'm going to bed.
So... It lasts all day. That's really all that matters to me.
My battery has not been able to make it through the day. Don't know why yet. I have my email accounts set to 30 minute sync schedule, have Wi-Fi and bluetooth off. Don't know what is going on. Still researching. Will see how it goes for a week. Might be a bad battery.
i find that dark backgrounds help. Also keep unecessary things off and dl an app killa. I had a new captivate today at 10am and with its half charge and heavy usage it lasted me till 6
by heavy usage i mean constant surfing and dling shiz. I didnt use gps wifi or play a movie. also played that free mario game for bout an hour.
After about 11.5 - 12 hours of very light browsing (maybe like 1/2 hour 3g surfing, no calls, all apps killed with task killer every once in awhile) with Bluetooth and Wifi off I am at 68% left. This is with auto brightness.
I'd say if you don't do anything you might be able to get 3-4 days out of it. According to my battery stats 78% of all my battery usage has been the screen. Keep that thing off / or low brightness and you are going in the right direction.
i bet by standby att means the phone being not used and turned off for like 4 days lol
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i find that dark backgrounds help. Also keep unecessary things off and dl an app killa. I had a new captivate today at 10am and with its half charge and heavy usage it lasted me till 6
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Thanks systoxity, I will try that
systoxity said:
i find that dark backgrounds help. Also keep unecessary things off and dl an app killa. I had a new captivate today at 10am and with its half charge and heavy usage it lasted me till 6
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By dark, he means a background that has a lot of black in it. This is really helpful because the Super AMOLED screen on this phone turns off power to pixels that are black, so basically that part of the screen isn't using any power. A black background is almost like turning the screen off.
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By dark, he means a background that has a lot of black in it. This is really helpful because the Super AMOLED screen on this phone turns off power to pixels that are black, so basically that part of the screen isn't using any power. A black background is almost like turning the screen off.
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this, thanks for clarifying.
note: it further helps if you apply a static one.
I was able to listen to music for 6 hours at work, show off my phone (I only showed it directly to one co-worker - I had 5 other guys come to check it out after he told them about it lol!), did some light surfing, downloaded a few apps and generally fiddled around with the phone and ended up at 43% battery. Not great, but not terrible either. Screen was the big killer here. GPS and WiFi off except to test Layar.
We'll see if battery life improves, but it enough to make it through one day easily for me. Forget to charge it and it'll be flat early into the next day though. I'm a bit disappointed, considering benchmarks on the Galaxy S came up with nearly 8 hours of constant video playback. I think they had brightness at 50% and I kept setting mine to max to show off the screen and then forgetting to set it back, so that could be part of it. I was definitely expecting more though. I'm clearly not the most demanding user here, so I was hoping to potentially eek out two days of usage (just in case I forget to charge it).
One of the reasons I went with the Captivate instead of waiting for the Epic is that the form factor seems to be a bit more amenable to adding an extended battery. Hopefully we'll start to see some 2500mAh or even 3Ah batteries show up - even if it means getting a new backcover. THAT should just about do it
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Well, my N1 holds charge for about 1 day with moderate use. As soon as I play with the GPS and google's built in nav system I get maybe 4 hours worth of usage. Another issue I have with my N1 is that my car charger cannot keep up with the drain, so even plugged into the charger the battery percentage is decreasing. Sure hope the Captivate is better in that respect.
Froyo did increase battery life a bit but it is not earth shattering. The advantage of this phone is the larger capacity battery and hopefully a less power hungry samsung processor than the qualcom snapdragon.
I am sure within the next few days we will have some folks with more concrete consumption estimates.
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Also the Super AMOLED Screen sucks alot less Juice as well...
My friend has the Vibrant and has had it for about 4 days. He is a power-user like me, and he said with his task killer, he can run the phone for 2 days on a full charge. This is outstanding for a smart phone... I ordered my Captivate today, should be here on Wednesday so I'll also put this to the test!
better battery life is coming once devs hop aboard. Also, your phone will need training over the next few days so it can only get better from here for you. I also recommend just leaving brightness on auto detect. You wont have to play with it as much and forget it on super bright.
Some more tips:
idk if you guys like haptic feedback but i think its annoying as all hell. Turn it off to save an iota of battery.
Also tone responses for menu clicks? ANNOYINNGG turn that shiz off for a squirt of juice.
Lastly, unless you live by your email, turn sync off and only sync manually when ur curious about it.
I wonder about some of the widgets. I have Weather And Toggle Widget (which I prefer over Beautiful Widget), and have it set to update the weather every 30 minutes. Wonder if that's too often. The weather in Iowa can be very unpredictable and change quickly, but I'm inside all day so it doesn't really matter. I guess it's just eye-candy mostly.
I also wonder how WATW compares to BW in terms of battery consumption.
I turned haptic off (I agree, it was annoying). I turned the tones off, though I doubt that will affect battery life. I wish I could keep the tones for dialer and kill it for the keyboard.
EDIT: I keep reading about this idea that you train your battery (or device) to your usage, but I'm not sure that I understand/buy it. I could see perhaps something to do with the memory effect if these batteries are susceptible to it, but this idea of "training" it strikes me as very odd. Does Android have some kind of battery optimization algorithm that adjusts services based on your usage or something?
from what i understand, calculating battery life is like a guessing game. calibrating your device by letting it drain out and then fully charging it and draining it out again completely gives your phone an idea of just how long it can last on a single charge. Until you do a few cycles like this it will incorrectly display batter life percentage giving the user a false sense of security or panic. There may be more to it that has to do with the actual battery itself but idk the rest of the details.
and 30 min updates is a bit much lol. u should update like once a day and manually refresh if you need to know b4 u go out.
I'm getting very good battery life on my phone. As good as any iphone I've had and better than any of my windows mobile phones before that. I don't have any widgets constantly pulling down data though and only have my google account syncing contacts and calendars and an exchange account running.
Here are the settings I'm running on CM7 to get amazingly bananas battery life (with the display being on for about 5 hours!)..
1. Conservative governor: 245mhz - 1017mhz in CM7 settings
2. Install the 'BatteryCalibration' app from the market. This app caused the single biggest improvement for me after having flashed so many roms and never calibrating the battery. If you've calibrated it before though, I don't think it'll be very useful for you.
3. Install 'NoBars' from the market to automatically turn on airplane mode when you have no service. (This might be useless to some of you if you always have a signal; Very useful in NYC subway though)
4. Use a 2G toggle widget to have the phone only use the Edge connection when you only need it to receive calls/ texts and don't need the high speeds. I use the toggle widget in the CM7 notification bar. HUGE battery saver.
Give these a shot and let us know how they work for you
I've reached the end of my day and here are my final stats..
Mmy display has been on on over 5 hours now and I have 5% of the battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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As you can see by my display being on over 3 hours, I used my phone a heck of a lot today and still have over a third of my battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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Question: It's cool that your display was on for 3 hours, but what did you do as far as app usage??
If you did use your phone "a heck of a lot" wouldn't some apps like "internet" "maps" or something show up on the battery use %'s???
For example, currently, other than phone idle, cell standby, voice calls and android, there's also internet, mail, maps, and other apps that I used today alot.
Good observation. I have no idea how android chooses which apps to show on there, but I think it depends on the ROM? I remember on Iced Glacier cell standby would barely use 5% of the battery and on CM7 it uses >40% consistently. Idk.
Maybe what those apps used up here was nothing compared to the display, wifi and phone idle time.. Just a guess.. But I did use the browser and xda app and listened to music via the Rdio app running in the background several times throughout the day, and sent multiple texts and have had my wifi on for about 5 hours now. I can't really find a menu that would show these statistics except in the Spare Parts app, and here you go..
I got 17 hours just yesterday with 9% left with moderate to heavy use (texting, web browsing and ps1 emulation).
I didn't do anything besides use faux's kernel with the smartass govenor. I have the max speed overclocked to 1.8 as well...
Nice. I just got over flashing new kernels for a while since the stock CM7 one has everything functioning perfectly and new kernels would improve on something but mess up something else in my experience.
I can't seem to find a 2g toggle widget that works with Royal Glacier. (one touch, I've found a few that take you to settings) When I was running Royal Ginger I would always use the one that came in the notification bar.
Wifi status is also a good app to remind the forgetful to turn off wifi when they leave the Area.
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I've reached the end of my day and here are my final stats..
Mmy display has been on on over 5 hours now and I have 5% of the battery left. Seems more than good enough for me. Hopefully it will be for some of you too
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This is GREAT battery life... i wonder what word i'd use to describe mine.
i Pulled my Phone off the Charger this morning @ 7:20pm EST. Now it is 3:13 EST. and i've got ~50% left. So thats what like. 7 hours
neidlinger tap that 'screen on' tab and lets see how long your screen was actually on for?
Either way congrats, and it's good to see ppl are over the battery issues.
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neidlinger tap that 'screen on' tab and lets see how long your screen was actually on for?
Either way congrats, and it's good to see ppl are over the battery issues.
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since my last boot. 8:10AM when i loaded the new CM7. 1h 1m 59s.
Unless I'm missing something, the 'BatteryCalibration' app won't increase your battery life. It will just help to get a more accurate reading of your battery level.
I've played around with different roms and kernels. And yes, they do have a small effect on battery life, but not all that much.
Here's my tip for battery life. Get on ebay and buy one the of the cheap packages from Hong Kong with 3 batteries and a standalone charger. Like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-Battery-Charger-HTC-Mytouch-4G-Merge-/290556738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
I bought a similar package a few months ago and now I never have battery problems. Nor do I have to take a chance on wearing out my micro-usb jack like I've seen happen on a lot of other phones.
Maybe. All I know is my battery increased dramatically after running that app once.
I measure battery life by how many hours I am able to keep my display on before it dies rather than how long after it comes off the charger (like nedilinger does). My battery used to die after about 3 hours of the display being on. Now it consistently lasts 5 hours.
Anyway, I was just trying to let others know what I did to get a really good battery life on my phone thinking it might be helpful. Apparently that's not appreciated. Thanks tho.
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Unless I'm missing something, the 'BatteryCalibration' app won't increase your battery life. It will just help to get a more accurate reading of your battery level.
I've played around with different roms and kernels. And yes, they do have a small effect on battery life, but not all that much.
Here's my tip for battery life. Get on ebay and buy one the of the cheap packages from Hong Kong with 3 batteries and a standalone charger. Like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3x-New-1500mAh-...738794?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item43a687fcea
I bought a similar package a few months ago and now I never have battery problems. Nor do I have to take a chance on wearing out my micro-usb jack like I've seen happen on a lot of other phones.
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How long does 1 of those batteries last?
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simple way to get awesome battery life without any extra steps is to install RoyalGlacier 1.6, that's all. A couple days ago I ran my phone for one and a half days before charging it again, and it still had 14% battery left. RG is pretty much a polished version of CM7, runs blazing fast and smooth.
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simple way to get awesome battery life without any extra steps is to install RoyalGlacier 1.6, that's all. A couple days ago I ran my phone for one and a half days before charging it again, and it still had 14% battery left. RG is pretty much a polished version of CM7, runs blazing fast and smooth.
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does the royal ginger gets the same battery result?
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does the royal ginger gets the same battery result?
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Better than what's reported under CM7. The battery life I posted above was on RG.
you say you don't sacrifice 4g but you admit you have a 2g/edge widget?
To me "not sacrificing 4g" means not ever turning it off, maybe i'm mistaken
I had battery issues, I'd have to charge it mid day else it would die. Juicedefender helped a bit (claimed to do 1.7x battery life) but I uninstalled it, rooted the phone, and uninstalled a bunch of stock apps
For some reason now my battery lasts a very very long time, don't know how or why that is. I also admit I don't use it as heavily as some people, but my habits have not changed and I did have to charge it mid day (like i said) even with little usage
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How long does 1 of those batteries last?
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Obviously, it's hard to say without describing how I use my phone, but I get probably 10-15 hours of medium-high usage. I probably get about 4-5 hours of talk time. I'd say the Chinese ebay batteries probably last 80-90% as long as the OEM battery. Quite decent considering the price.
My earlier thoughts about the BatteryCalibration app could be wrong. I don't really know all the details about how Android battery calibration works. I just assumed that it simply learns about all the bad spots in your battery so that your phone doesn't instantly jump from 80% to 30%. I also assumed that the phone would die when the battery had no power left, as opposed to when it says 0%, but maybe that's not the case. Regardless, if it helps you, more power to you and I appreciate you sharing the app. I didn't mean to come off as an unappreciative ****. If I did, sorry bout that.
Hi all,
My 6 days old Sensation (Vodafone contract UK) discharge a huge amount during Standby (200-350mA). I got the number via Battery Widget Pro 1.65. For the first few days I did deplete the battery fully before charging it to full. Today I have factory reset it to the original condition at around 4pm with 58% battery full. Now at 9pm, it is only 18%. During this time, I spent about 1 hour with the phone, the rest is standby. I set the widget to monitor with 1 minute interval and when looking at the log file, it can be seen that the phone consumed from 200-400mA during the standby time. Coming from HD2 with Android modded 3-8mA standby consumption, this is a huge huge dissapoinment!
Is this because of my battery or is this my phone? Should I ask for a replacement? What about you, did you see similar pattern?
Thanks,
Duong
duongnt said:
Hi all,
My 6 days old Sensation (Vodafone contract UK) discharge a huge amount during Standby (200-350mA). I got the number via Battery Widget Pro 1.65. For the first few days I did deplete the battery fully before charging it to full. Today I have factory reset it to the original condition at around 4pm with 58% battery full. Now at 9pm, it is only 18%. During this time, I spent about 1 hour with the phone, the rest is standby. I set the widget to monitor with 1 minute interval and when looking at the log file, it can be seen that the phone consumed from 200-400mA during the standby time. Coming from HD2 with Android modded 3-8mA standby consumption, this is a huge huge dissapoinment!
Is this because of my battery or is this my phone? Should I ask for a replacement? What about you, did you see similar pattern?
Thanks,
Duong
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Ditto!! So annoyed since I too am coming from HD2 where HyperDroid's consumption had dropped to a flat 2mA in standby. This is insane for a native android device. Not to mention the heating while playing games and most importantly, the front facing camera producing upside down image during fring video chats.. grrr!
Dunno what the cause OR solution is (besides switching over to a custom rom if and when the BL gets unlocked and people like pongster develop for this device)...
Overall, sexy device but disappointed with such major holes left unattended..
A little offtopic but was a battery related questions and did not wanna start a new thread so posting here -
Does anybody know of if there's any app which can get the battery percent to show in the top bar instead of the default indicator?
Thanks
EDIT: neva mind... found it... everybody's allwoed 1 dumb post once in a while
something is keeping your phone awake, you need to figure out what it is.
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something is keeping your phone awake, you need to figure out what it is.
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Any ideas on how I can do that? I tried using current widget but I guess because it's not rooted, current widget showed me a log of 0mA all throughout (yeah rite! hehe)
when I figure it out myself I'll let you know.
Current things I found that killed my battery over night: VTOK & Google Latitude
I went into Settings --> About Phone --> Battery --> Battery Use and checked, and it says display is eating most of my battery.
As far as mine, I get about 12 hours of battery life with standard usage, with the display eating most of the life, so if you're saying the screen is off, you might get different results...
over my 8h sleep battery dropped like 10%, nothing special (count in : wifi on, sync with gmail, weather) guys. new phone, fresh unoptimized kernel and radio. it'll get better. my prev phone (desire) was like sh*t at beginning in relating to its current spec rom ... and btw for checkin consuption : system panel (not lite), there is monitoring and u can see which apps running again if ya shoot them, check sync-s etc. many many thing to do, hard to tell in a single post
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over my 8h sleep battery dropped like 10%, nothing special (count in : wifi on, sync with gmail, weather) guys. new phone, fresh unoptimized kernel and radio. it'll get better. my prev phone (desire) was like sh*t at beginning in relating to its current spec rom ... and btw for checkin consuption : system panel (not lite), there is monitoring and u can see which apps running again if ya shoot them, check sync-s etc. many many thing to do, hard to tell in a single post
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well it certainly sounds like a part of it is specimen issue.. here's my latest experience... last few times i have let it completely discharge and then charge back while the phone was off so i dont mess with it... once 100% charged, i switched the phone on and received a call.. a 25 minute conversation ate away 15% of my battery... LOL...
then, (now it gets better)... in 2 hrs of standby, the phone was at 60% which means it lost another 15% battery in 2 hrs of "standby".. im not sure if i can even call that state a "standby" anymore...
anyways... im wondering if its worth pinning hopes on rom development on our forum or should i just return this and go with something like nexus S which, O well, I can live with... atleast it has a 3300mA batterypack available... what's the use of kickass speeds and features if i have to use a phone like a desktop..
Hey, I have pretty bad battery drain during stand by as well I recommend trying to adjust the sync accounts, esp HTC hub and how often it updates that should improve it...I have a bunch of HTC widgets set up so im suspecting that being the reason for battery drain during stand by also adjust your email update setting accordingly. Every little bit helps!
Battery gauge stuck at 100%
Another one slightly off topic - but why start another battery thread.
It is the second day with my Sensation, and since I took the phone off the charger this morning, the battery gauge has been stuck at 100%. All other apps reading the battery status (e.g. Battery Widget) show the same number. I rebooted the phone multiple times, replaced the battery - nothing - permanent 100%. Has anyone had a similar experience? Did I get a perpetuum mobile ?
BTW the readings were fine yesterday.
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Another one slightly off topic - but why start another battery thread.
It is the second day with my Sensation, and since I took the phone off the charger this morning, the battery gauge has been stuck at 100%. All other apps reading the battery status (e.g. Battery Widget) show the same number. I rebooted the phone multiple times, replaced the battery - nothing - permanent 100%. Has anyone had a similar experience? Did I get a perpetuum mobile ?
BTW the readings were fine yesterday.
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Yes, the rating will go downhill pretty quick after that. Mine behaves in the same way.
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Hey, I have pretty bad battery drain during stand by as well I recommend trying to adjust the sync accounts, esp HTC hub and how often it updates that should improve it...I have a bunch of HTC widgets set up so im suspecting that being the reason for battery drain during stand by also adjust your email update setting accordingly. Every little bit helps!
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Thanks for the pointer.. I will surely try that and see if it makes a difference..
That being said, call me crazy but it just occurs to me that HTC should be putting in some minimal efforts to check off basic quirks like battery consumption and QC. I mean all of us are spending a buttload of money on these devices year over year and then we rely on our devs here to give us basic functionality. Back in the days the reason people joined forums was to tweak devices.. Now it almost feels like we might as well expect only the hardware for the price we pay... disappointed!
Anywho...
I fully charged the phone before I went to bed last night. Eight hours later, the battery is at 10%. Is there something wrong with the battery?
Try using the Spare Parts app to see what's really using the battery in detail.
Firstly I love the lumia 1020 (running black update) .... but ... there is always a but!
On my last two long commutes I have been using Nokia Ready to read a few novels. No issue with the app (ok maybe a few but not for here), my issue is with battery drain.
Even with my phone plugged into the nokia charge block I am finding the drain from phone usage to be greater that the charge from the block. I ran the battery app at it shows the charge to be approx 13.8%/hour but in a 1hr 50min train journey the battery fell from 79% to 12%! Screen brightness is on auto .. and I turn it down in the reader app
Surely this can't be right. I am considering a hard reset and rebuild with just key apps, but be honest I don't have that many apps installed that I allow to run in the background. (allowed 6snap, facebook, weather and battery), I appreciate there may be others that I cannot block but there are few others. In addition I ony have one outlook.com email address being synced.
Any thoughts / Advice would be appreciated.
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I should add I used MAPs for about 5 minutes today but backed out of the app ... I have read elsewhere that Maps can cause a drain issue ...is this true or just urban myth?
I'm new to WP but looked up a source the other day that showed me how to close apps from the multi tasking screen (GDR3). There it said that running apps in the background (which don't really run in the background, but are forwarded when opened again) has no impact on battery life. Coming from android that seems odd to me, but I think its true..
Edit: I see now that you wrote that you allowed these apps to run in the background. Maybe this is something else then..
Reading about this phone in Wikipedia I read that some lumia 1020 users experienced a sudden battery drain. Maybe some faulty phones? Do you experience this issue more often? Might of course be connected to specific apps, but I'm not sure. You would have to observe that.
The maps you are talking about. Is that Here Maps?
To sum up: settings like tracking turned on etc. might affect your battery life, but I think your case is not normal. Consider swapping it under warranty.
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Firstly I love the lumia 1020 (running black update) .... but ... there is always a but!
On my last two long commutes I have been using Nokia Ready to read a few novels. No issue with the app (ok maybe a few but not for here), my issue is with battery drain.
Even with my phone plugged into the nokia charge block I am finding the drain from phone usage to be greater that the charge from the block. I ran the battery app at it shows the charge to be approx 13.8%/hour but in a 1hr 50min train journey the battery fell from 79% to 12%! Screen brightness is on auto .. and I turn it down in the reader app
Surely this can't be right. I am considering a hard reset and rebuild with just key apps, but be honest I don't have that many apps installed that I allow to run in the background. (allowed 6snap, facebook, weather and battery), I appreciate there may be others that I cannot block but there are few others. In addition I ony have one outlook.com email address being synced.
Any thoughts / Advice would be appreciated.
After thoughts:
I should add I used MAPs for about 5 minutes today but backed out of the app ... I have read elsewhere that Maps can cause a drain issue ...is this true or just urban myth?
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I just got my 1020 too. It is not unusual for a AMOLED to drain battery. Especially on white backgrounds.
I am not familiar with the app, but try changing the background to black if the app supports it. Also, if you updated to Black and never hard reset it, it might be a worthy try.
30% drain per hour looks too big for me. May be the app is not optimized and is taking a lot of processing power! (Which might be the reason it is killing battery)
Many people in wpcentral forums expressed the same concern after update.
I also started using the dark browser. It has dark background so that the battery drain is much less.
Lastly, NEVER charge the 1020 overnight. Plug it off the charger when it is fully charged.
Thanks for the feedback .. I removed a few apps and reinsalled and i seem to idle (phone off) between 1.5 and 3% ,, happy with that. Also I have switched to a black background and things do seem better.
Can you explain your comment "NEVER" charge a 1020 overnight .... why not?
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Thanks for the feedback .. I removed a few apps and reinsalled and i seem to idle (phone off) between 1.5 and 3% ,, happy with that. Also I have switched to a black background and things do seem better.
Can you explain your comment "NEVER" charge a 1020 overnight .... why not?
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So, initially I used to charge overnight, so I had 100% charge in morning. But by noon it would drop to 50% and by 4-5PM it would be in battery saver mode <15%.
I saw many discussions around this and gave it a try to not charge overnight (It only takes me an hr to to from 20% to 100%). It was 100% when I went to bed, 90% when I woke up, 60% around 1PM and 20% around 7PM with approximately the same usage which is pretty decent comparing to other phones I have.
(Glance set to peek, double tap to wake off)
There are many discussion threads on processor trying to continuously run in background when charging for long periods (You can tell it by the slight warm at top). This might be a bug in 1020 only. (My 520 and 1520 does not have any issue).
Atleast in my case, not charging it after it reaches 100% is giving better battery life.
If you wondered about my usage, I have 15 apps with background processes, 10 more with push notifications. I constantly text, use whatsapp and 4 emails fetching every hour, reading news for 10 min approx in an hr. (Thats pretty intense on any phone )
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Glance feature uses more battery on 1020 than on other devices I tested (925,1520). So, you might be better off using peek mode.
Nokia reading- BUG
Hello! Nokia Reading has a bug with battery eating, it is constantly loading CPU by a lot + drainage from screen = phone dead in 2 hours of reading. Stop using Nokia Reading and try alternate readers like Freda. This will solve your problem.
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N.Reading is an old app intended to be used on wp7 , has been updated last time long ago. Do not use it on new phones- it will drain battery FAST.
Tested on L1320, L620 and 1020. Use other readers.
Heating & Battery draining..
My 1020 starts to heat up at around 5~10 mins of use (& keeps making my hand uncomfortable) & Battery drains like at-least around 2 % per minute when using 3G or WiFi internet.. (Let alone using Camera, that's another story..). Even the battery drain is high on Standby !! :crying:
Pretty much nothing runs in the background except what I'm using.. (Like Browser, Whatsapp or App store etc.)
What to do ???
I'm on WP 8.1 developer preview..
Seeing incorrect stats in accubattery and gsam vs Galaxy system battery details. It's off by a good bit, like hours sometimes.
If you read this can you check that a few times throughout a day or two? No phone restarts or anything.
I'm even seeing minutes difference between different battery tracking apps. All set to never sleep.
Normal. I wouldn't get to caught up with it.
Total SOT time ie %per hr tells the story.
I use Accubattery for SOT overview, real time power usage and temp mostly.
Other ones to help track down power hogs.
My point is that Samsung's battery stats are telling me I'm getting 4 1/2 hours and accubattery is telling me 6 hours. That's weird at minimum, something's broken at worst case. Trying to figure out which it is.
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My point is that Samsung's battery stats are telling me I'm getting 4 1/2 hours and accubattery is telling me 6 hours. That's weird at minimum, sometimes broken at worst case. Trying to figure out which it is.
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Accubattery's history seems close enough.
Time it. This isn't rocket science critical though.
4.5 hr SOT with a 5002 mAh battery sucks. It's burning that battery up. Find the hogs and neutralize them. I would expect 10hrs SOT from that device and even that isn't all that good.
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Accubattery's history seems close enough.
Time it. This isn't rocket science critical though.
4.5 hr SOT with a 5002 mAh battery sucks. It's burning that battery up. Find the hogs and neutralize them. I would expect 10hrs SOT from that device and even that isn't all that good.
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No one's getting that kind of battery life. Maybe if you turn everything off and turn down all the settings the phone came with. I usually get around 6 which is ok but not fantastic.
I was seeing this happen on multiple days so I was wondering if anyone else noticed it.
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No one's getting that kind of battery life. Maybe if you turn everything off and turn down all the settings the phone came with. I usually get around 6 which is ok but not fantastic.
I was seeing this happen on multiple days so I was wondering if anyone else noticed it.
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You need to tone it down; find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
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You need to tone it down; find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
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I'm not asking about how to get better battery life, I'm asking if people are seeing DIFFERENT STATS in the built in battery thing vs 3rd party apps that record it.
As an example, gsam is showing me almost a half hour more screen on time than accubattery is right now. Both apps set to never sleep. System is more in line with accubattery but it's still off by 15 minutes or so.
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I'm not asking about how to get better battery life, I'm asking if people are seeing DIFFERENT STATS in the built in battery thing vs 3rd party apps that record it.
As an example, gsam is showing me almost a half hour more screen on time than accubattery is right now. Both apps set to never sleep. System is more in line with accubattery but it's still off by 15 minutes or so.
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Accubattery is fairly accurate. SOT history is more important than actual individual app usage.
It shows the overall picture so you can spot an issue quickly. I use multiple battery monitors when I have a power usage problem. The exact amount is somewhat irrelevant compared to the gross amount; 1-2% isn't much compared to 10%.
The problem app is sometimes the parent app of it's dependency that seems to be the problem.
Google system apps come to mind...