Firstly I love the lumia 1020 (running black update) .... but ... there is always a but!
On my last two long commutes I have been using Nokia Ready to read a few novels. No issue with the app (ok maybe a few but not for here), my issue is with battery drain.
Even with my phone plugged into the nokia charge block I am finding the drain from phone usage to be greater that the charge from the block. I ran the battery app at it shows the charge to be approx 13.8%/hour but in a 1hr 50min train journey the battery fell from 79% to 12%! Screen brightness is on auto .. and I turn it down in the reader app
Surely this can't be right. I am considering a hard reset and rebuild with just key apps, but be honest I don't have that many apps installed that I allow to run in the background. (allowed 6snap, facebook, weather and battery), I appreciate there may be others that I cannot block but there are few others. In addition I ony have one outlook.com email address being synced.
Any thoughts / Advice would be appreciated.
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I should add I used MAPs for about 5 minutes today but backed out of the app ... I have read elsewhere that Maps can cause a drain issue ...is this true or just urban myth?
I'm new to WP but looked up a source the other day that showed me how to close apps from the multi tasking screen (GDR3). There it said that running apps in the background (which don't really run in the background, but are forwarded when opened again) has no impact on battery life. Coming from android that seems odd to me, but I think its true..
Edit: I see now that you wrote that you allowed these apps to run in the background. Maybe this is something else then..
Reading about this phone in Wikipedia I read that some lumia 1020 users experienced a sudden battery drain. Maybe some faulty phones? Do you experience this issue more often? Might of course be connected to specific apps, but I'm not sure. You would have to observe that.
The maps you are talking about. Is that Here Maps?
To sum up: settings like tracking turned on etc. might affect your battery life, but I think your case is not normal. Consider swapping it under warranty.
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scopes64 said:
Firstly I love the lumia 1020 (running black update) .... but ... there is always a but!
On my last two long commutes I have been using Nokia Ready to read a few novels. No issue with the app (ok maybe a few but not for here), my issue is with battery drain.
Even with my phone plugged into the nokia charge block I am finding the drain from phone usage to be greater that the charge from the block. I ran the battery app at it shows the charge to be approx 13.8%/hour but in a 1hr 50min train journey the battery fell from 79% to 12%! Screen brightness is on auto .. and I turn it down in the reader app
Surely this can't be right. I am considering a hard reset and rebuild with just key apps, but be honest I don't have that many apps installed that I allow to run in the background. (allowed 6snap, facebook, weather and battery), I appreciate there may be others that I cannot block but there are few others. In addition I ony have one outlook.com email address being synced.
Any thoughts / Advice would be appreciated.
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I should add I used MAPs for about 5 minutes today but backed out of the app ... I have read elsewhere that Maps can cause a drain issue ...is this true or just urban myth?
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I just got my 1020 too. It is not unusual for a AMOLED to drain battery. Especially on white backgrounds.
I am not familiar with the app, but try changing the background to black if the app supports it. Also, if you updated to Black and never hard reset it, it might be a worthy try.
30% drain per hour looks too big for me. May be the app is not optimized and is taking a lot of processing power! (Which might be the reason it is killing battery)
Many people in wpcentral forums expressed the same concern after update.
I also started using the dark browser. It has dark background so that the battery drain is much less.
Lastly, NEVER charge the 1020 overnight. Plug it off the charger when it is fully charged.
Thanks for the feedback .. I removed a few apps and reinsalled and i seem to idle (phone off) between 1.5 and 3% ,, happy with that. Also I have switched to a black background and things do seem better.
Can you explain your comment "NEVER" charge a 1020 overnight .... why not?
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scopes64 said:
Thanks for the feedback .. I removed a few apps and reinsalled and i seem to idle (phone off) between 1.5 and 3% ,, happy with that. Also I have switched to a black background and things do seem better.
Can you explain your comment "NEVER" charge a 1020 overnight .... why not?
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So, initially I used to charge overnight, so I had 100% charge in morning. But by noon it would drop to 50% and by 4-5PM it would be in battery saver mode <15%.
I saw many discussions around this and gave it a try to not charge overnight (It only takes me an hr to to from 20% to 100%). It was 100% when I went to bed, 90% when I woke up, 60% around 1PM and 20% around 7PM with approximately the same usage which is pretty decent comparing to other phones I have.
(Glance set to peek, double tap to wake off)
There are many discussion threads on processor trying to continuously run in background when charging for long periods (You can tell it by the slight warm at top). This might be a bug in 1020 only. (My 520 and 1520 does not have any issue).
Atleast in my case, not charging it after it reaches 100% is giving better battery life.
If you wondered about my usage, I have 15 apps with background processes, 10 more with push notifications. I constantly text, use whatsapp and 4 emails fetching every hour, reading news for 10 min approx in an hr. (Thats pretty intense on any phone )
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Glance feature uses more battery on 1020 than on other devices I tested (925,1520). So, you might be better off using peek mode.
Nokia reading- BUG
Hello! Nokia Reading has a bug with battery eating, it is constantly loading CPU by a lot + drainage from screen = phone dead in 2 hours of reading. Stop using Nokia Reading and try alternate readers like Freda. This will solve your problem.
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N.Reading is an old app intended to be used on wp7 , has been updated last time long ago. Do not use it on new phones- it will drain battery FAST.
Tested on L1320, L620 and 1020. Use other readers.
Heating & Battery draining..
My 1020 starts to heat up at around 5~10 mins of use (& keeps making my hand uncomfortable) & Battery drains like at-least around 2 % per minute when using 3G or WiFi internet.. (Let alone using Camera, that's another story..). Even the battery drain is high on Standby !! :crying:
Pretty much nothing runs in the background except what I'm using.. (Like Browser, Whatsapp or App store etc.)
What to do ???
I'm on WP 8.1 developer preview..
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I unplugged the phone and got onto the bus. I read news with Captivate. Nothing fancy, just NY Times, Fox News etc. I got off the bus later, I only have 73% battery.
Yes, I just started my day and it's only 70% of battery.
#FAIL.
There are a few simple things you can do to increase battery life. Turn the screen brightness down and use a solid black background as a wallpaper. The screen uses the majority of the batter. so dimming the screen helps, when using a black background the amoled display does not light up black pixels so there is power drain.
I've been running on the same charge since 4pm yesterday. I've streamed music through pandora for about an hour while exercising, browsed the xda forums using the XDA App for 30 mins, made a few calls, browsed Facebook for 30 mins, surfed the web for a couple of hours before bed. Its now 10AM and I'm sitting at 36%. Not to bad really! The phone functions exactly the same at 36% as compared to 100%.
I wonder why everyone says to use a solid black background? Do most people use their phones primarily by staring at the home screen? I'm never at my home screen more than perhaps five seconds while switching apps
I've had pretty poor battery life as well, even after discharging, recharging, and deleting batterystats.bin. There are small tips here and there, like black background and screen brightness, but even following them all, my phone lasts me barely ten hours, and most of that time it's idle. For instance, I listened to local must (no streaming) with the screen off for about an hour and lost 10% of my battery life. What's up with that?
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I've streamed music through pandora for about an hour while exercising, browsed the xda forums using the XDA App for 30 mins, made a few calls, browsed Facebook for 30 mins, surfed the web for a couple of hours before bed. Its now 10AM and I'm sitting at 36%.
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I am also shocked and confused by how people can use their phone so heavily.
I already killed those unnecessary processes (e.g., all AT&T crap). I have a static wallpaper. I have screen brightness at 60%. And all I have been doing is just reading news and surfing the web. It literally cost me 1% of battery for every 1 min of use. It's just ridiculous.
You are probably on your home screen a lot more than you realize.
Anyway it's a smartphone, they all eat through battery time. you will never get superb battery life unless you crowbar a 3000mah battery into your device.
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set the screen on its lowest brightness setting, the only time I've had to increase the brightness is when I am outside in the sun.
if you are on a bus, if you are not using wifi, turn off the radio.
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Anyway it's a smartphone, they all eat through battery time. you will never get superb battery life unless you crowbar a 3000mah battery into your device.
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You just said your phone is at 36% eighteen hours after charging! Compared to the 0% I'm at ten hours after charging...I'm not looking for superb battery life at all, just somewhat decent. I'm actually bringing a backup feature phone with me to college this semester in case I can't resolve this issue, because I will need to use my phone both in the morning and at night some days
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set the screen on its lowest brightness setting, the only time I've had to increase the brightness is when I am outside in the sun.
if you are on a bus, if you are not using wifi, turn off the radio.
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I have Wifi, BT always off. And I don't listen to Pandora.
I think the key is you have the lowest brightness on your phone. It is going to save you a lot of battery 'cause half of the battery is for the screen.
But I just couldn't stand it. I wish I can set to 100% all the time. It looks so much better.
The phone radio is a huge consumer of battery - especially in weak signal areas. The bars are not that accurate either. that coupled with 3rd party apps that don't always behave nice, can equal rapid battery drain.
Putting the plain in Airplane mode is good way to see what battery life is like without the Cell radio always doing its thing. It is not a fix, but it can show that the battery/phone are not broken. There probably can be improvements and tweaks made by samsung, but I don't think the phones are defective.
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I think the key is you have the lowest brightness on your phone. It is going to save you a lot of battery 'cause half of the battery is for the screen.
But I just couldn't stand it. I wish I can set to 100% all the time. It looks so much better.
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This is what you would call a trade-off I like the bright screen also but I like having longer battery life more.
The screen is still pretty bright on it lowest setting and you gt used to the lower brightness after a while.
magicdanw said:
You just said your phone is at 36% eighteen hours after charging! Compared to the 0% I'm at ten hours after charging...I'm not looking for superb battery life at all, just somewhat decent. I'm actually bringing a backup feature phone with me to college this semester in case I can't resolve this issue, because I will need to use my phone both in the morning and at night some days
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how are you using your phone? What apps are you running, are you using any emulators.
There's an app called Spare Parts, which will show you what is using your battery when the screen is off. Open it up and choose "Partial Wake Usage" from the drop down to see.
My Captivate appeared to drain battery very quickly, but with moderate to decent usage throughout a day I was trying to kill the battery it lasted me over 13 hours. I think it's a matter of the battery reporting taking a good while to calibrate properly.
I've had an issue twice now with absurd battery usage. Both times I charged the phone to full and disconnected it; after doing that the phone would lose 10% charge every hour sitting completely idle! Using the phone during that time drained it even faster. Both times powering the phone completely off and back on resolved the issue.
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I wonder why everyone says to use a solid black background? Do most people use their phones primarily by staring at the home screen? I'm never at my home screen more than perhaps five seconds while switching apps
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In AMOLED, black pixels dont use power. This is different from LCD where even black pixels still use power.
Have you guys tried fully charging, then fully discharing then repeating this step 3 more times? It helps with the battery life tremendously.
You gotta do a factory reset. Many people as well as myself had the same issue. For me, a side effect was also that the att start up swoosh was stupidly loud.
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I only did the discharge thing once, last week, and today I am going on a 21 hours with 28% left.
2g app
I was told there is a 2g / 3g application. Has anyone tried this? Apparently it puts the phone in 2g when no data connection is needed and then updates to 3g when a data process is required...
i'm on day two of not charging mine... and i'm at 25%...
i unplugged it from a full charge yesterday (monday) morning before i left for work and today (29 hours later) i'm at 25%... this is with advanced task killer auto killing tasks when screen is off as well as being aggressive about it. i've been listening to music from my sd card, browsing facebook and taking some pictures (and uploading them to fb). i guess i'm either super lucky not to have any problems with GPS or the battery, or i'm a very light user.
I dunno what happened to the main battery thread?
I just got a new phone two days ago because of the restart issue. This one has the same battery issue. Drains 2-4%/hour just being idle. I have nothing beyond launcher pro and google voice installed. Everything is on lockdown in terms of batt usage. The only thing I haven't done is turn off the cell antenna.
I've tried the tricks I knew: factory reset, calibration trick. These didn't help at all. My last phone just needed a factory reset and it was all good. Now I'm sad again :-( will it just improve itself when the phone "learns" the battery or something? I wish I could teach it
Several things you can do.
1) Use WiFi if you can use it, it uses less power. If you don't have somewhere to use WiFi, leave it off.
2) Same goes for BT- leave it off if possible.
3) Use this to get rooted and remove all the ATT crap that sucks battery life. Applying the lag fix also means you spend less time with the screen on, so that can also help you out.
4) Use Auto Brightness
5) Disabling haptic feedback and the tapping sounds (I find it more annoying regardless)
6) Use a static black wallpaper- or something really dark. IMO it looks great black and plus the AMOLED... Black doesn't use power.
7) Use Advanced Task Killer. I have mine on Aggressive and Moderate security every half hour. This will make sure hung apps, etc get killed and apps you haven't ran. Make sure you whitelist the apps that run your widgets and such though.
That's the best things to do to.
Edit- above all, remember this is a SMART phone, not a feature phone like the iPhone is. The simple fact this full blown SMART phone can even begin to rival just a feature phone like the iPhone speaks volumes to how much more efficient it is than what you think it is.
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I've had an issue twice now with absurd battery usage. Both times I charged the phone to full and disconnected it; after doing that the phone would lose 10% charge every hour sitting completely idle! Using the phone during that time drained it even faster. Both times powering the phone completely off and back on resolved the issue.
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I too have had issues with battery life but quickly realized what had been causing the issues, twice it had been snesoid not closing down all the way after use, and this combined with an app that was hurting battery life (word feud), I realized what my problem was.
I leave the brightness jacked all the way down. I believe the lowest it goes on the stock rom is like 15%, but there are ways to go lower than that.
I've not used my phone much the past two days since charging it, and i'm currently down to 35%, but most of my battery use is cell standby, with display being 3rd or so on the list.
You can always use a program like tasker to make the phone go into airport mode between certain hours of the day (IE: while you're sleeping) to help conserve the battery life.
There are also tons of other good tips in this thread.
And trust me, the phone can last; i've managed 3days on one charge
Hi all,
My 6 days old Sensation (Vodafone contract UK) discharge a huge amount during Standby (200-350mA). I got the number via Battery Widget Pro 1.65. For the first few days I did deplete the battery fully before charging it to full. Today I have factory reset it to the original condition at around 4pm with 58% battery full. Now at 9pm, it is only 18%. During this time, I spent about 1 hour with the phone, the rest is standby. I set the widget to monitor with 1 minute interval and when looking at the log file, it can be seen that the phone consumed from 200-400mA during the standby time. Coming from HD2 with Android modded 3-8mA standby consumption, this is a huge huge dissapoinment!
Is this because of my battery or is this my phone? Should I ask for a replacement? What about you, did you see similar pattern?
Thanks,
Duong
duongnt said:
Hi all,
My 6 days old Sensation (Vodafone contract UK) discharge a huge amount during Standby (200-350mA). I got the number via Battery Widget Pro 1.65. For the first few days I did deplete the battery fully before charging it to full. Today I have factory reset it to the original condition at around 4pm with 58% battery full. Now at 9pm, it is only 18%. During this time, I spent about 1 hour with the phone, the rest is standby. I set the widget to monitor with 1 minute interval and when looking at the log file, it can be seen that the phone consumed from 200-400mA during the standby time. Coming from HD2 with Android modded 3-8mA standby consumption, this is a huge huge dissapoinment!
Is this because of my battery or is this my phone? Should I ask for a replacement? What about you, did you see similar pattern?
Thanks,
Duong
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Ditto!! So annoyed since I too am coming from HD2 where HyperDroid's consumption had dropped to a flat 2mA in standby. This is insane for a native android device. Not to mention the heating while playing games and most importantly, the front facing camera producing upside down image during fring video chats.. grrr!
Dunno what the cause OR solution is (besides switching over to a custom rom if and when the BL gets unlocked and people like pongster develop for this device)...
Overall, sexy device but disappointed with such major holes left unattended..
A little offtopic but was a battery related questions and did not wanna start a new thread so posting here -
Does anybody know of if there's any app which can get the battery percent to show in the top bar instead of the default indicator?
Thanks
EDIT: neva mind... found it... everybody's allwoed 1 dumb post once in a while
something is keeping your phone awake, you need to figure out what it is.
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something is keeping your phone awake, you need to figure out what it is.
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Any ideas on how I can do that? I tried using current widget but I guess because it's not rooted, current widget showed me a log of 0mA all throughout (yeah rite! hehe)
when I figure it out myself I'll let you know.
Current things I found that killed my battery over night: VTOK & Google Latitude
I went into Settings --> About Phone --> Battery --> Battery Use and checked, and it says display is eating most of my battery.
As far as mine, I get about 12 hours of battery life with standard usage, with the display eating most of the life, so if you're saying the screen is off, you might get different results...
over my 8h sleep battery dropped like 10%, nothing special (count in : wifi on, sync with gmail, weather) guys. new phone, fresh unoptimized kernel and radio. it'll get better. my prev phone (desire) was like sh*t at beginning in relating to its current spec rom ... and btw for checkin consuption : system panel (not lite), there is monitoring and u can see which apps running again if ya shoot them, check sync-s etc. many many thing to do, hard to tell in a single post
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over my 8h sleep battery dropped like 10%, nothing special (count in : wifi on, sync with gmail, weather) guys. new phone, fresh unoptimized kernel and radio. it'll get better. my prev phone (desire) was like sh*t at beginning in relating to its current spec rom ... and btw for checkin consuption : system panel (not lite), there is monitoring and u can see which apps running again if ya shoot them, check sync-s etc. many many thing to do, hard to tell in a single post
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well it certainly sounds like a part of it is specimen issue.. here's my latest experience... last few times i have let it completely discharge and then charge back while the phone was off so i dont mess with it... once 100% charged, i switched the phone on and received a call.. a 25 minute conversation ate away 15% of my battery... LOL...
then, (now it gets better)... in 2 hrs of standby, the phone was at 60% which means it lost another 15% battery in 2 hrs of "standby".. im not sure if i can even call that state a "standby" anymore...
anyways... im wondering if its worth pinning hopes on rom development on our forum or should i just return this and go with something like nexus S which, O well, I can live with... atleast it has a 3300mA batterypack available... what's the use of kickass speeds and features if i have to use a phone like a desktop..
Hey, I have pretty bad battery drain during stand by as well I recommend trying to adjust the sync accounts, esp HTC hub and how often it updates that should improve it...I have a bunch of HTC widgets set up so im suspecting that being the reason for battery drain during stand by also adjust your email update setting accordingly. Every little bit helps!
Battery gauge stuck at 100%
Another one slightly off topic - but why start another battery thread.
It is the second day with my Sensation, and since I took the phone off the charger this morning, the battery gauge has been stuck at 100%. All other apps reading the battery status (e.g. Battery Widget) show the same number. I rebooted the phone multiple times, replaced the battery - nothing - permanent 100%. Has anyone had a similar experience? Did I get a perpetuum mobile ?
BTW the readings were fine yesterday.
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Another one slightly off topic - but why start another battery thread.
It is the second day with my Sensation, and since I took the phone off the charger this morning, the battery gauge has been stuck at 100%. All other apps reading the battery status (e.g. Battery Widget) show the same number. I rebooted the phone multiple times, replaced the battery - nothing - permanent 100%. Has anyone had a similar experience? Did I get a perpetuum mobile ?
BTW the readings were fine yesterday.
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Yes, the rating will go downhill pretty quick after that. Mine behaves in the same way.
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Hey, I have pretty bad battery drain during stand by as well I recommend trying to adjust the sync accounts, esp HTC hub and how often it updates that should improve it...I have a bunch of HTC widgets set up so im suspecting that being the reason for battery drain during stand by also adjust your email update setting accordingly. Every little bit helps!
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Thanks for the pointer.. I will surely try that and see if it makes a difference..
That being said, call me crazy but it just occurs to me that HTC should be putting in some minimal efforts to check off basic quirks like battery consumption and QC. I mean all of us are spending a buttload of money on these devices year over year and then we rely on our devs here to give us basic functionality. Back in the days the reason people joined forums was to tweak devices.. Now it almost feels like we might as well expect only the hardware for the price we pay... disappointed!
Anywho...
I fully charged the phone before I went to bed last night. Eight hours later, the battery is at 10%. Is there something wrong with the battery?
Try using the Spare Parts app to see what's really using the battery in detail.
Hello, two days ago I closed the lid of the cover and put my Note Pro LTE in a bag. I just took out the device and found that there are about 81% left. Is this normal?
Depends on what you're running in the background.
Mine looses about 1% every 24h when in deep sleep. I've got everything turned off, including sync, gps, wifi, mobile data (I'm not using a SIM yet), most of the bloatware including touchwiz.
So, even I closed the cover, apps were still running and the power hunger ones continued to consume power?
Just check the battery stats...
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Power hungry, no; but background processes still run like email checking and other sync services.
Considering you probably have sync set up for an email account and Google play services is likely running as well getting about 0.5% drain per hour seems reasonable to me.
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So, even I closed the cover, apps were still running and the power hunger ones continued to consume power?
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Turning the screen off doesn't disable Sync. With Sync enabled, it keeps actively checking for new emails and the lot. Think of it like going to sleep, and waking up every 5 minutes to check your mailbox.
It temporarily pauses games and videos, but it doesn't quit the app. You have to do that through the recent apps menu.
Is there an app that also put those sleepless apps such as sync to sleep when the lid is closed?
When it comes to battery life the first thing to do is get a handle on what your current drain is.
Monitor your battery stats page, look at the times that the device wakes up and at the rankings of applications to see what's using the most power. Third party applications can help here like Better Battery Stats or GSam Battery Monitor.
From a fresh clean boot with a full battery let the tablet sleep unplugged while on WiFi without ever opening any applications or turning on the display. Let it sit like this for at least a few hours and determine your average hourly % drain. Use this as your baseline and see what applications rank near the top. Repeat this with WiFi turned off and the tablet on LTE. Compare the two and if you see higher drain on LTE take a look at your signal strength. Most likely if LTE signal is weak then drain will increase as the radio tries to compensate.
If you see more than a percentage point of drain in deep sleep while on WiFi then chances are an application is keeping the tablet awake or waking it frequently. Those applications will likely rise to the top in the default battery stats page. If not, the third party applications can assist you in figuring out what's wake-locking the device.
Thanks, I will try the test under wifi. I haven't used LTE yet. I bought the LTE version because it has faster processors and quick charging.
Do the tips mentioned in the article also apply to our Note PRO? Do Airport Mode turns off those apps we talk about?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-...one-or-tablet-quickly-and-efficiently_id56242
Since 4.3 Samsung OS has a process called Index (from indexing files) draining a lot of battery juice from its first start till completed process (just for 2 days i think).
I had noticed this since Note 2 update to 4.3, and now with 12.2.
But I can be wrong......or not.
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Do the tips mentioned in the article also apply to our Note PRO? Do Airport Mode turns off those apps we talk about?
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-...one-or-tablet-quickly-and-efficiently_id56242
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Seems fairly logical when you think about it . . if you're trying to fill a bath tub it will fill much faster if you close the drain at the bottom . .
My beloved red Nexus 5 starts acting up... the battery drains extremely fast. Some weeks ago, I could barely make it to 2pm without having to recharge after unplugging. So I got a new battery (directly from LG, so definitely a genuine part) which improved the situation, but didn't completely solve the problem. Additionally, I flashed a CM 13 CAF ROM (using myfluxi's kernel) onto the N5 - I enjoy it so far, but there was actually no further change converning battery life.
Right now, the phone is at 10% after being unplugged in the morning at 9am. Wifi, bluetooth, GPS and mobile data were constantly on, cell signal was mostly perfect, wifi was connected for about 3h, bluetooth was always connected to my Moto 360. Screen on-time is about 2h and I listened to music using GPM for about 2h. The battery settings do not indicate any app using up too much battery power - it shows the display at 15%, cell standby at 10% and then several apps.
What do you think - a Nexus 5 with a new battery should make it through a day, shouldn't it?
I remember my first Nexus 5, back in the days with a G watch, making it through a day without any problem with 15-20% left when I plugged it in before going to bed... because of that, I start to think if there might be a bad electronics part, like the display backlight or something on the mainboard, using up too much power without being noticed by the OS. Is that possible?
Thank you very much for your advice!
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Read and post in the battery life troubleshooting thread stickied to the top of this forum, it will help logically determine what is using your battery.
You have a lot running at once, so difficult at the moment to solve your issue. It's better to turn things on/off one by one to make logical conclusions whether it has any noticeable effect.
The best logical way to conclude if it is a hardware problem is to go fully sock no additional apps no root etc, see if it 'drains' by itself
If not hardware, then 99% of the time it is a bad app(s) keeping your phone awake
This is likely not the case, but have you checked the CPU settings? I've only encountered such a drain while using performance governor together with overclocking.
Same here
I have the same problem and I have been banging my head about it, I don't really use my phone for anything much else than a phone and I kept having at least 3 days of using it with no problems.
Now the phone barely lasts 2 days and even switches off in the middle of the night...
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I have the same problem and I have been banging my head about it, I don't really use my phone for anything much else than a phone and I kept having at least 3 days of using it with no problems.
Now the phone barely lasts 2 days and even switches off in the middle of the night...
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In the OP's case, his drain is likely caused by having GPS on all the time. That will absolutely devour battery life, so he could save himself some grief by turning it off until he than your phone turns off occasionally. First guess would be the power button going bad; that is generally the reason for needs it.
For you, who knows? You've not given any information, otherthat type of behavior
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In the OP's case, his drain is likely caused by having GPS on all the time. That will absolutely devour battery life, so he could save himself some grief by turning it off until he than your phone turns off occasionally. First guess would be the power button going bad; that is generally the reason for needs it.
For you, who knows? You've not given any information, other that type of behaviour
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Yes, sorry about that I was a bit annoyed at the phone. I found and fixed the problem. Go to settings > apps > disable google fit > click yes when it gives you some notifications about how you'll lose data or stuff like that > and click force stop at the end for good measure.
I am in my second day now of battery life at 59% with a looooooooot of talking today , I mean more than usual so it is definitely a fix for me. Hope it helps
Take care gents
Regards
Nik
Again same problem
Hi all,
Unfortunately I have better battery life but I am again losing a lot of battery.
I have a screenshot but I am unable to upload it sorry about that.
I use my phone mainly for calls roughly about 15 mins per day at the most in total ( not a lot at all I know) and I also have my bluetooth on at all times cause I have LG G Watch.
thing is that I have never had problems with the battery before. When I say before back in the day I still had my LG G Watch ( I have it for about 6-7 months) . Problem with the battery started roughly around 1 month.
Location is off, wi-fi is on on very rare occasions throughout the day when I need to check my e-mail and mobile data is the same. Navigation is used only if needed.
The real problem is that before I knew what was draining my batter now I have 79% of battery usage and I have 5 apps listed that drained each 1%
Android System 1%
Phone Idle 1%
Screen 1%
Google play services 1%
Android OS 1%
Where are the other 15 % ??
It is weird I really took pride in that phone and his battery life, I know that it is mainly because I don't use it as a regular used do i.e. gaming, facebook etc, but I still want to charge less than 1 time per 2 days or less
Thanks in advance
Regards
Nik
Stormspik3 said:
Hi all,
Unfortunately I have better battery life but I am again losing a lot of battery.
I have a screenshot but I am unable to upload it sorry about that.
I use my phone mainly for calls roughly about 15 mins per day at the most in total ( not a lot at all I know) and I also have my bluetooth on at all times cause I have LG G Watch.
thing is that I have never had problems with the battery before. When I say before back in the day I still had my LG G Watch ( I have it for about 6-7 months) . Problem with the battery started roughly around 1 month.
Location is off, wi-fi is on on very rare occasions throughout the day when I need to check my e-mail and mobile data is the same. Navigation is used only if needed.
The real problem is that before I knew what was draining my batter now I have 79% of battery usage and I have 5 apps listed that drained each 1%
Android System 1%
Phone Idle 1%
Screen 1%
Google play services 1%
Android OS 1%
Where are the other 15 % ??
It is weird I really took pride in that phone and his battery life, I know that it is mainly because I don't use it as a regular used do i.e. gaming, facebook etc, but I still want to charge less than 1 time per 2 days or less
Thanks in advance
Regards
Nik
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As stated above, read and post in the battery life troubleshooting thread stickied to the top of Q&A.
They will help logically diagnose what is using your battery.
Hi everyone!!
I'd like to get some advice about my issue that I've been having for a while...
My battery drain is what you may see in my attachments. Please tell me some good advice to reduce this drain or whether it is normal functioning either...
In conclusion, I'd like to know if it might be convenient to replace the battery and, furthermore, whether there are larger batteries with more autonomy.
My phone is 2 years and half old but to be honest I use it intensively with its battery-case (manufacturer: Newdery).
Thanks!!!
Sorry for late reply, just saw this.
You get 6 hours of battery life with 14% screen on time? That doesn't sound to correct.
My suggestion would be to install the app: AccuBattery. I swear by it - it is very good I think. It will watch your apps much better than the stock android battery monitor. It will also tell you your battery health, the mAh left out of the total of 4000. If you have a very low amount left (capacity wise) then you may want to get a new battery. But make sure to do several charges before taking it as accurate. Use the app for several days, even the little "notes" in the app will tell you this - it's to "acclimate" to your use and give you more accurate statistics.
Hopefully this helps - 6 hours is definitely not good.
theslam08 said:
Sorry for late reply, just saw this.
You get 6 hours of battery life with 14% screen on time? That doesn't sound to correct.
My suggestion would be to install the app: AccuBattery. I swear by it - it is very good I think. It will watch your apps much better than the stock android battery monitor. It will also tell you your battery health, the mAh left out of the total of 4000. If you have a very low amount left (capacity wise) then you may want to get a new battery. But make sure to do several charges before taking it as accurate. Use the app for several days, even the little "notes" in the app will tell you this - it's to "acclimate" to your use and give you more accurate statistics.
Hopefully this helps - 6 hours is definitely not good.
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Hi!!
Thank you very much for your reply!
I forgot it but I already had Accubattery installed on my phone.
In fact, in attachment you have the battery wear data from April 2021 till now..
I hope that I shared you useful data to analyse the issue.
What do you think? What should I take from the app?
I thought that the new Android version 11 is the cause of battery drain as another phone (Xiaomi Redmi Note 10) suffers from it after the upgrade to Android 11..
umby75 said:
Hi!!
Thank you very much for your reply!
I forgot it but I already had Accubattery installed on my phone.
In fact, in attachment you have the battery wear data from April 2021 till now..
I hope that I shared you useful data to analyse the issue.
What do you think? What should I take from the app?
I thought that the new Android version 11 is the cause of battery drain as another phone (Xiaomi Redmi Note 10) suffers from it after the upgrade to Android 11..
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No prob
Could you take an [extended/full] screenshot of the "Discharge" tab? That will show more info about which app is draining more. Also those numbers change I believe on every charge so you'd have to just keep an eye on which app is always at the top of the section under "Foreground App Battery Usage > Battery Usage" section. Hopefully it isn't just "system" or something, hopefully it is an app that you can remove/freeze.
And what does it say for Battery Capacity above the "Battery Wear" chart?
And speaking of the wear chart, you'll want to stop charging all the way to 100%, it looks like you're putting over 1 cycle of wear on the battery very often which will degrade the battery quicker. The 'Charging" tab explains this even allowing you to set a reminder to unplug at a certain charge level (it tells you the higher you charge the more wear you put on the battery - unfortunately that's how batteries work).
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No prob
Could you take an [extended/full] screenshot of the "Discharge" tab? That will show more info about which app is draining more. Also those numbers change I believe on every charge so you'd have to just keep an eye on which app is always at the top of the section under "Foreground App Battery Usage > Battery Usage" section. Hopefully it isn't just "system" or something, hopefully it is an app that you can remove/freeze.
And what does it say for Battery Capacity above the "Battery Wear" chart?
And speaking of the wear chart, you'll want to stop charging all the way to 100%, it looks like you're putting over 1 cycle of wear on the battery very often which will degrade the battery quicker. The 'Charging" tab explains this even allowing you to set a reminder to unplug at a certain charge level (it tells you the higher you charge the more wear you put on the battery - unfortunately that's how batteries work).
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Hi, thank you for your reply!!
I'm sorry for my late replies..
In the attachments you have what you asked me.
It seems that Facebook drains the battery a lot despite the fact that I don't use it much.
The battery wear seems to be almost one fifth of total capacity for a capacity of about 3200mhA.
I'd like to have something better...
I have set at 83% the alert to reduce the wear of the battery but I wonder how it could work fine when the phone is turned off..
No problem
So, I'm not exactly sure how you use your phone but it looks like the screen-on at 23%/hr looks pretty bad but then also it says combined time was 102 hours? I believe that means how long it's been off the charger. If that's the case you can't get any better battery life than that, that is really really good.
You mention facebook doing a lot of draining. Try researching a good app freezing option on the app store. I only did a quick search but this one came up: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox but read the reviews (I did a quick scan and it looks like it might work as intended) and look around maybe there is a better one. But the point of this is, to freeze any apps in that list (the accubattery foreground apps) you barely use and it will prevent them from running in the background. This will definitely give you better battery life.
And I don't see the deep sleep statistic, is that around 90hrs along with the screen off time? It should be more than the screen off time at least, because if it is then it is deep sleeping correctly (no rouge apps causing it to not deep sleep), but if it's less than the screen off time, then something (maybe facebook) is keeping the phone awake even with the screen off, causing extra battery drain.
And 83% charge is pretty good, maybe even 75% might be better, I think from 0 to 75 it's like .3 or .4 wear but it's like with these batteries once you start going over 75% it jumps in wear dramatically. And if the phone is off (turned off completely you mean?) then the battery won't gain any wear because it won't be in use at all.
theslam08 said:
No problem
So, I'm not exactly sure how you use your phone but it looks like the screen-on at 23%/hr looks pretty bad but then also it says combined time was 102 hours? I believe that means how long it's been off the charger. If that's the case you can't get any better battery life than that, that is really really good.
You mention facebook doing a lot of draining. Try researching a good app freezing option on the app store. I only did a quick search but this one came up: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catchingnow.icebox but read the reviews (I did a quick scan and it looks like it might work as intended) and look around maybe there is a better one. But the point of this is, to freeze any apps in that list (the accubattery foreground apps) you barely use and it will prevent them from running in the background. This will definitely give you better battery life.
And I don't see the deep sleep statistic, is that around 90hrs along with the screen off time? It should be more than the screen off time at least, because if it is then it is deep sleeping correctly (no rouge apps causing it to not deep sleep), but if it's less than the screen off time, then something (maybe facebook) is keeping the phone awake even with the screen off, causing extra battery drain.
And 83% charge is pretty good, maybe even 75% might be better, I think from 0 to 75 it's like .3 or .4 wear but it's like with these batteries once you start going over 75% it jumps in wear dramatically. And if the phone is off (turned off completely you mean?) then the battery won't gain any wear because it won't be in use at all.
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I noticed that I didn't make all the screenshots, but now I've just done them with regards to this new discharge cycle and you have the deep sleep statistics for a better analysis - they are in attachments.
I asked here for a longer battery lasting and instead I set it as 75% as the maximum percentage value of charge that reduces my autonomy but saves the battery.
However, yesterday I noticed that the charging wasn't deactivated when the phone reached 80% of charge (is the value that was set yesterday). Oughtn't Accubattery deactivate the charging?
The statistics you mentioned in your previous post appear to me a bit awkward even though they are related to many sessions in the last 7 days.
I use my phone with my phone case-battery (Newdery manufacturer) and until few months ago it could charge the phone up to about 80 % when I couldn't charge my phone through its charger. I need the charge to last a day, almost 20 hrs…
I noticed that the phone started to wear - the last few months - when I noticed that I couldn't have the phone working till the late evening and I tried to charge it fully before I left my house...
However, it is clear what I need for my use and habits, thus, new reliable battery-case suggestions would be a good hint for me...
In the end, I don't know what to do about apps that manage the apps freezing because I don't know how Android allows it and if it is worth it..