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I just picked up a Gear S2 classic. I started playing around with it and so far I have a few questions and issues with a couple things. I'm pairing it with my Galaxy S7.
My first and foremost concern is the removal of the stock and bloatware apps. I realize most people may use the fitness aspect of the watch, or its other built-in features, but I won't. All of the pre-installed apps are cluttering the watch for me. For example, I won't be using the email app (I use Gmail solely), Buddy, Find My Phone (I have location turned off), S Health, Running, S Voice (I thoroughly prefer Google), Samsung Pay, World Clock (it's really irritating and pointless to have 4 different clock apps on the watch. They should be lumped into one like on the phone), Messages (unless this can work with Textra), Music Player (I use another music app on my phone, although I do appreciate that this one somehow controls the music once it's started on that app on my phone). This is a make or break point for me as far as keeping or selling the watch.
Next, is the only way to use the Galaxy Apps store to have to sign into your phone with your Samsung account? I absolutely don't want to be connected to the Samsung Cloud. This is the only reason I'm not using Samsung Pay. If I sign into anything on my phone with my Samsung account, it signs my whole phone in and connects me to the darned Samsung Cloud. Many people have their information synced up there even with all sync options off, so I want to avoid this.
Third, some notifications like the ones from Snapchat are not being acknowledged by the watch at all. And yes, all notifications are selected to appear from the Gear App (Snapchat included). And no, I don't have the blacklist setting on.
I appreciate everyone's help with this, thank you so much. As much info as possible would be wonderful.
I am just wondering why you bought this watch if you don't want any of the connected features that come with it? . In any event I don't know of any way to remove pre-installed apps
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cwb1231 said:
I am just wondering why you bought this watch if you don't want any of the connected features that come with it? . In any event I don't know of any way to remove pre-installed apps
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I mean, it's supposed to be something like the best smartwatch out there in a lot of ways, and I wanted essentially an extension of my phone on my wrist that could function on its own too. I also have a Moto 360 first gen I play around with here and there, and for a first generation smartwatch, it does well. So far, with the issues outlined above, I can't really say the same about the Gear S2.
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Where can i see my ECG records in the Samsung Health app? Its all calibrated with the Samsung Health Monitor app, or is this the only place to see this?
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Samsung Health Monitor - its different than Samsung Health - this is where you get to see the graphs
See here as you may need to take steps to enable and use it depending on your location:
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I have done this, Blood Pressure data is showing in the Samsung Health app, but no ECG info, its only in the monitor app.
You need to download the Samsung Health monitor app on your phone to see the graphs
amirage said:
You need to download the Samsung Health monitor app on your phone to see the graphs
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I have that app, is that the only place to see the data?
oxfordmark said:
I have that app, is that the only place to see the data?
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Yup
oxfordmark said:
I have that app, is that the only place to see the data?
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How many times can we tell you to use the correct app?
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How many times can we tell you to use the correct app?
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I am using the correct apps!
Its just I thought ECG data would show up in the Samsung Health app (it shows in the monitor one).
oxfordmark said:
I am using the correct apps!
Its just I thought ECG data would show up in the Samsung Health app (it shows in the monitor one).
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ECG is a graph, if you think about it logically, theres no way to present that in the concise gui that Samsung health uses...Samsung Health is more of a concise overview of easily digested metrics, where as ECG is a linear graph, the two are not really compatible
Also figure in Samsung Health Monitors main purpose is to export that graph as a PDF, so its ideally not even meant to be viewed on the device at all...
oxfordmark said:
I am using the correct apps!
Its just I thought ECG data would show up in the Samsung Health app (it shows in the monitor one).
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ECG never syncs to Samsung Health, it never did since the beginning and I don't think it will sync in the future
I was able to install Phone.WearOS.SHM.MOD.1.1.1.171.dante63.apk on my phone and Watch4.SHM.MOD.1.1.0.185.dante63.apk on my watch using the procedures documented. I could not get these two apps to communicate. The phone app looked for the watch, but couldn't find it and eventually timed out. Has Samsung made further changes to their software to keep this from working or is there something else going on? Any insights would be most appreciated. Thanks.
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I was able to install Phone.WearOS.SHM.MOD.1.1.1.171.dante63.apk on my phone and Watch4.SHM.MOD.1.1.0.185.dante63.apk on my watch using the procedures documented. I could not get these two apps to communicate. The phone app looked for the watch, but couldn't find it and eventually timed out. Has Samsung made further changes to their software to keep this from working or is there something else going on? Any insights would be most appreciated. Thanks.
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1st of all you'll need to download the file "FeatureManagerOn" from the XDA Google drive downloads link found here admittedly while @Dante63 is good at unlocking these apps I don't think much to the layout of his/her guides. Look for "~~~ FILES and Description ~~~" download link will be under that, it's important to have this file sitting as such (root of Android phone) /DOWNLOAD/SAMSUNGHEALTH/FeatureManagerOn before following (opening the Samsung health app)
Open the latest version of Samsung health app, mines (6.21.2.007) just in case they lock it down even more... so if you'res is newer by the time you see this and the instructions I'm giving don't work, they probably locked it down more, press the "3 dots" found at the top right hand side, press "settings" scroll all the way down till you see about samsung health, press the version number several times till the option "set features" shows up, don't mistake this for "developer mode"
Once inside set features change health analysis to dev, and set data platform to enable developer mode
While I am supplying help here I am in no way saying I've done this to my watch 4, however I'm very happy that non Samsung smart phones are able to get the same level of data. Shame on Samsung for locking this up, joke is they are running the watch and their phones off of a open source operating system they are not apple and they should be opening this up to everyone, the code the lot. as they agreed to use a open source operating system and are profiting from it so should be giving back to the community, that they rely on, I'm disgusted with this company's behaviour and mistreating of code which by nature isn't theirs and shouldn't be locked down, all Android phones can run this there's no hardware reason... They are not apple they didn't build wear os or android.
So thank you @Dante63 I know it seems like I'm criticising you're work but I'm not, it's just that this shouldn't be a requirement for this to all work with standard non Samsung phones and the whole situation has annoyed me please write down how to do the steps in you're guide I literally didn't watch the video till after 9 attempts
SignedAdam said:
1st of all you'll need to download the file "FeatureManagerOn" from the XDA Google drive downloads link found here admittedly while @Dante63 is good at unlocking these apps I don't think much to the layout of his/her guides. Look for "~~~ FILES and Description ~~~" download link will be under that, it's important to have this file sitting as such root of Android /DOWNLOAD/SAMSUNGHEALTH/FeatureManagerOn before following opening the Samsung health app
Open the latest version of Samsung health, press the "3 dots" found at the top right hand side, press "settings" scroll all the way down till you see about samsung health, press the version number several times till the option "set features" shows up, don't mistake this for "developer mode"
Once inside set features change health analysis to dev, and set data platform to enable developer mode
While I am supplying help here I am in no way saying I've done this to my watch 4, however I'm very happy that non Samsung smart phones are able to get the same level of data. Shame on Samsung for locking this up, joke is they are running the watch and their phones off of a open source operating system they are not apple and they should be opening this up to everyone, the code the lot. as they agreed to use a open source operating system and are profiting from it so should be giving back to the community, that they rely on, I'm disgusted with this company's behaviour and mistreating of code which by nature isn't theirs and shouldn't be locked down, all Android phones can run this there's no hardware reason... They are not apple they didn't build wear os or android.
So thank you @Dante63 I know it seems like I'm criticising you're work but I'm not, it's just that this shouldn't be a requirement for this to all work with standard non Samsung phones and the whole situation has annoyed me please write down how to do the steps in you're guide I literally didn't watch the video till after 9 attempts
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Non taken, there is a written guide in Google drive, you can see a READ ME file, and on the thread (but briefly due to XDA characters limit)...
I made this for those who don't want to watch the video...
I'm always open for feedbacks and suggestions to improve guide and video
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Non taken, there is a written guide in Google drive, you can see a READ ME file, and on the thread (but briefly due to XDA characters limit)...
I made this for those who don't want to watch the video...
I'm always open for feedbacks and suggestions to improve guide and video
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I didn't expect a reply, you're a legend for getting this working please keep updating/unlocking the APK files for Samsung health monitor, till Samsung see sense at least
Another app that needs unlocking is the Samsung galaxy wearos app found here, and there's another variant of the health app found here, give them no where to hide unlock everything I say including all the stuff off their galaxy store... Which is locked to Samsung phone it's outrageous!
Thanks again @Dante63
SignedAdam said:
I didn't expect a reply, you're a legend for getting this working please keep updating/unlocking the APK files for Samsung health monitor, till Samsung see sense at least
Another app that needs unlocking is the Samsung galaxy wearos app found here, and there's another variant of the health app found here, give them no where to hide unlock everything I say including all the stuff off their galaxy store... Which is locked to Samsung phone it's outrageous!
Thanks again @Dante63
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Unfortunately, core applications cannot be modded without breaking cloud services...
Hi all, got the phone and watch mods installed and now have both blood pressure and ECG. The blood pressure syncs to the Health Monitor app but not the ECG. The ECG tab says it can't connect to my watch while the blood pressure tab does. Any clue?
Hello community!
The built-in backup feature is extremely limited, and almost useless because it essentially backs-up only the Quick Settings screen and a handful of other Settings.
All downloaded watch faces as well as other apps (and app data) are excluded from the backup.
I have sideloaded this File Manager using EasyFireTools.
File Manager - Apps on Google Play
Fast, easy-to-use and full-featured file manager app with cloud integration.
play.google.com
This file manager allows me backup all apks, as well as connect to my phone and PC wirelessly over the network.
But the main issue is app data. None of the watch faces come with a configuration file that can be exported/ imported, so every watch face has to be setup from scratch each time.
Is there a simpler way to backup watch face configurations as well as other Apps'data?
Thanks.
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I use thema watch faces (for example I use this Chrono) and it comes with a partner app on your phone to customize more settings and it has a built-in setting saver. While not all watch faces have this, it is amazing and thema has a ton available on the playstore. They're all free with limited options but the settings save options are free and a single iap for unlocking all options.
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I use thema watch faces (for example I use this Chrono) and it comes with a partner app on your phone to customize more settings and it has a built-in setting saver. While not all watch faces have this, it is amazing and thema has a ton available on the playstore. They're all free with limited options but the settings save options are free and a single iap for unlocking all options.
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I have seen some of the watch faces from thema and others like RichFace, whose phone apps look similar.
Most of the features are locked behind a paywall. Does one have to buy each feature separately or buying once unlocks all features?
On the Play Store, they say x dollars per item. So not sure what exactly that means.
It is per watchface for thema unfortunately. But it's not unreasonable to me. Less than $2 and I use Google opinion rewards and I get $2 worth of credits in less than a month for Google play so like I said imo I don't think it's much.
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It is per watchface for thema unfortunately. But it's not unreasonable to me. Less than $2 and I use Google opinion rewards and I get $2 worth of credits in less than a month for Google play so like I said imo I don't think it's much.
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Sure, the payment for each watch face is separate. That is obvious.
My question is regarding features inside each watch face. For example, weather update, Google Fit integration, Samsung Health integration, AOD customisations, etc. are all locked behind a paywall.
Is the payment for each of these features separate, or just a single payment is required to unlock all premium features inside the watch face?
The 'Buy premium' option is shown separately against each of the premium feature. That is what is confusing. Does the 'Buy premium' unlock all premium features inside the watch face, or just that particular feature?
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Sure, the payment for each watch face is separate. That is obvious.
My question is regarding features inside each watch face. For example, weather update, Google Fit integration, Samsung Health integration, AOD customisations, etc. are all locked behind a paywall.
Is the payment for each of these features separate, or just a single payment is required to unlock all premium features inside the watch face?
The 'Buy premium' option is shown separately against each of the premium feature. That is what is confusing. Does the 'Buy premium' unlock all premium features inside the watch face, or just that particular feature?
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OH I did not understand your question. Yes it's 1 payment for all features. 1 iap for everything.
spart0n said:
OH I did not understand your question. Yes it's 1 payment for all features. 1 iap for everything.
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They should make that clear on the store description. They say x dollars per item, hence the confusion.
Thanks for clarifying this.
spart0n said:
It is per watchface for thema unfortunately. But it's not unreasonable to me. Less than $2 and I use Google opinion rewards and I get $2 worth of credits in less than a month for Google play so like I said imo I don't think it's much.
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Watch faces from RichFace, Thema, and others have pretty much everything locked behind a paywall. There is no way to test and see how the watch face would look after the user configures it the way he likes.
Going through the refund process of in-app purchase is a pain. Plus there are often licence verification issues on devices with multiple Google accounts.
I would rather install a paid app, see how it looks, and opt for refund with a single click if I don't like it.
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Hello community!
The built-in backup feature is extremely limited, and almost useless because it essentially backs-up only the Quick Settings screen and a handful of other Settings.
All downloaded watch faces as well as other apps (and app data) are excluded from the backup.
I have sideloaded this File Manager using EasyFireTools.
File Manager - Apps on Google Play
Fast, easy-to-use and full-featured file manager app with cloud integration.
play.google.com
This file manager allows me backup all apks, as well as connect to my phone and PC wirelessly over the network.
But the main issue is app data. None of the watch faces come with a configuration file that can be exported/ imported, so every watch face has to be setup from scratch each time.
Is there a simpler way to backup watch face configurations as well as other Apps'data?
Thanks.
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You will never be able to backup app data without root. Just to put that to bed.
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You will never be able to backup app data without root. Just to put that to bed.
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That's pathetic despite Android now being over 12 years old in commercial business. This is one area where Apple products are clear winners. They allow you to backup ALL app data, even if not the app themselves.
With Wear OS, the backup doesn't even include the downloaded watch faces themselves. One can't even unpair the watch without factory resetting it. When there are such limitations, the backup should be more elaborate and include the app data, including for downloaded apps and watch faces.
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That's pathetic despite Android now being over 12 years old in commercial business. This is one area where Apple products are clear winners. They allow you to backup ALL app data, even if not the app themselves.
With Wear OS, the backup doesn't even include the downloaded watch faces themselves. One can't even unpair the watch without factory resetting it. When there are such limitations, the backup should be more elaborate and include the app data, including for downloaded apps and watch faces.
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I've been trying to find any useful information on trying to backup my Facer and WatchMaker face files to a microSd card because faces on the app I've download seem to dissappear. If I've paid for a membership I'd think I'd have the right to back them up but I haven't been able to find anything. Searching through my file manager trying to even find anything resembling watch faces or the apps themselves is like looking for a UFO at Walmart. What the heck. There has to be a way to back them up. Anyone?
According to some info people gleemed in the files in a recent Google play services update, Google is working on a more thorough backup feature for wear os but I wouldn't count on it to backup everything
I am also now trying to find this, because I had purchased watch faces that for some reason unknown have now been removed from the playstore after being there for years, I wasn't expecting to loose a number of my watch faces, wouldn't have cared so much if they were free the face was from watchfacestudio com.watchfacestudio.tagcarrera. I have now purchased another however I am worried that this will get pulled as well, and no backup.
Does anyone know any ADB or ROOT methods to backup securely these faces?
Do they work like an apk following these methods?
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danw_oz said:
I am also now trying to find this, because I had purchased watch faces that for some reason unknown have now been removed from the playstore after being there for years, I wasn't expecting to loose a number of my watch faces, wouldn't have cared so much if they were free the face was from watchfacestudio com.watchfacestudio.tagcarrera. I have now purchased another however I am worried that this will get pulled as well, and no backup.
Does anyone know any ADB or ROOT methods to backup securely these faces?
Do they work like an apk following these methods?
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As mentioned in the OP, you can install the file manager linked there and backup the watch faces you want, just as would backup any app on the phone. If the watch faces get booted from the Play Store or you don't find them from their original source, you can simply reinstall the apk from your backup above and it will work just fine.
No need for root to backup (and reinstall) just the watchface apk.
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This is an idea gathering exercise.
For a while since I purchased it, I never bothered with my Galaxy Watch4 (my first smartwatch). But as I'm now tinkering with it, I find it quite interesting. Here is a list of what my watch can do:
01. Show me a whole lot of information. I have 3 favorite watch faces, each configured to give me a different set of information. All I have to do is simply change the watch face and they tell me much of what i want to know. Actually, this one watch face tells me pretty much everything I need to know.
02. Navigation on the wrist.
03. Notifications from my phone.
04. Managing phone calls.
05. Wirelessly transfer files among all my devices like watch, phone, laptop and NAS. I use the following two apps for this purpose:
1. File Manager
2. WiFi Pro FTP server
06. Listen to music using Samsung Music app. I haven't had the need to install another music app.
07. Watch videos using the watch companion of this app: Sun Player. You don't need this app on your phone.
08. Stream YouTube videos using NewPipe.
09. Manage my emails. I have installed Microsoft Outlook, Samsung Email, FairEmail and K-9 email apps. But I haven't configured any yet, except for Microsoft Outlook.
10. Browse the internet using Samsung Internet browser.
11. Read PDF using built-in PDF reader of X-Plore File Manager.
12. Read e-books using AIReader.
13. Control the basic functions of my Samsung TV using SmartThings app.
I know I have left out the single biggest thing that most people use a smartwatch for: Health Tracking. I don't use it because much of that is gimmicky stuff and one must not rely on the number game when it comes to health matters. Things like an app reminding one to drink water is one of the most absurd things that people would use.
Some of the apps are Android apps meant for the phone. But they are quite usable on the watch too. I sideload them using one of the following apps:
1. Easy Fire Tools
2. Bugjaeger
The following tutorials illustrate how to sideload apps on watch running Wear OS:
How to Sideload Apps on Samsung Galaxy Watch Wear OS - DroidWin
How to Sideload Apps on Samsung Galaxy Watch Wear OS
In this comprehensive tutorial, we will show you detailed steps to sideload any app on your Samsung Galaxy Watch running Wear OS.
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3 Ways to Install Apps or APK on Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 & 5 - wearablestouse.com
Want to download or sideload apps on your Samsung Galaxy Watch 4 smartwatch? Here's how to install apps and APK on Galaxy Watch 4.
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What are the things you use your watch for?
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Telling time... after all, it is a watch.
see the date, time and weather
Start my car, open the garage door and control all alexa enabled devices plus all of the usual stuff...
It does so many things. But my life is also just fine without it.
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Telling time... after all, it is a watch.
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I have edited the title of the post to now read 'smartwatch'.
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see the date, time and weather
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I have edited the title of the post to now read 'smartwatch'.
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Start my car, open the garage door and control all alexa enabled devices plus all of the usual stuff...
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Let me guess: you have setup Alexa or Google Assistant on your phone and use voice commands on your watch. These things are quite impressive, but personally I'm not comfortable in allowing apps to constantly keep listening to my conversations.
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It does so many things. But my life is also just fine without it.
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Absolutely. They are just too far from being a necessity. On the contrary, they are more of a distraction and contribute to loss of application of human faculties.
I shut off the listening part in both Alexa and Google Assistant, and just use the buttons to start the app...
Hello community!
In this post, I am giving you info on some aspects of Wear OS, which you may or may not know. All the details presented are based on my experience with Samsung Galaxy Watch4 (WiFi model), running on Wear OS 3.x. So they may not be representative of all the watches (and those that run on custom software like Tizen) in the market.
Let's begin:
01. You can sideload phone apps on the Watch using ADB. There are good tutorials on the internet that explain how to go about it. If the UI on the app is difficult to use, you may be able to make it usable by reducing the DPI of your watch. Again, there are good tutorials available for this on the internet. It is advisable that you restore the DPI to its default values after setting up the apps to prevent unexpected behaviour or other problems.
02. There is no support for VPN service on Wear OS. So you can't run Android Firewall apps like Netguard, Karma Firewall, etc.
03. There is no App Info page in the watch for installed apps. This means you can't delete cache or data for apps. You can only install or uninstall apps, just like in iOS. However, the app info page is available on the Galaxy Wear app (for Samsung Galaxy Watch) that will show the storage used, battery consumed, memory occupied for each app. It will also allow for force stopping and uninstalling apps on the watch from this screen.
04. You can backup your watch faces and other apps installed from Play Store (or other official stores like Galaxy Store) using an Android File Manager that supports APK backups. There is no built-in support for this though.
05. As with Android, there is NO support for backing up app data, or the configurations of watch faces. The built-in backup feature is very limited in what it does, so don't expect that you'll be able to simply restore everything after a factory reset. This is one area where iOS and WatchOS are clear winners.
06. If you reset the network settings on your phone, you'll have to factory reset your watch to pair it with your phone again. Apparently, this is for security (of your data) purposes.
07. If you are using a Samsung Galaxy watch running on Wear OS, then the Galaxy Watch Manager app on your phone is very crucial, and holds your watch's pairing key. If you delete this app's data on your phone or uninstall it, you'll have to factory reset your watch to pair it with your phone again.
08. Your watch can actually play videos, stream media, act like a FTP server, and do a few more things if you install (sideload) the right apps. I wouldn't recommend doing that regularly because the watch hardware is not designed to do these things, so you'll really be pushing the hardware if you use your watch for such activities for extended periods.
09. Unlike your phone, the displays used on smartwatches are prone to screen burn-in, especially because most of the watch faces do not offer a proper AOD feature that minimizes this risk. So choosing the right watch face is very important. Alternatively, keep changing the watch face every day or so.
10. AOD works only when you are wearing your watch. This is a good thing because it not only preserves battery, but also helps reduce screen burn-in.
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