Basic yes / no guide - General Topics

Hi all
I really appreciate all the info and knowledge on these forums but I do have a big concern which is I could be going down a dead end having spent many hours getting there.
Can I suggest that there is some very basic notes or a guide that will give almost yes / no answers, an example may be " Can any Android device have its OS updated to a later version?" or
" Can all required binary blobs be extracted from an Android device ?" and this will let someone know if they are looking at doing what cannot be done.
thanks Roy

Spectric2 said:
Hi all
I really appreciate all the info and knowledge on these forums but I do have a big concern which is I could be going down a dead end having spent many hours getting there.
Can I suggest that there is some very basic notes or a guide that will give almost yes / no answers, an example may be " Can any Android device have its OS updated to a later version?" or
" Can all required binary blobs be extracted from an Android device ?" and this will let someone know if they are looking at doing what cannot be done.
thanks Roy
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Hello,
that's easy:
Code:
if (question=easy) {
answer = yes/no
} else {
wall of text
}

Spectric2 said:
Hi all
I really appreciate all the info and knowledge on these forums but I do have a big concern which is I could be going down a dead end having spent many hours getting there.
Can I suggest that there is some very basic notes or a guide that will give almost yes / no answers, an example may be " Can any Android device have its OS updated to a later version?" or
" Can all required binary blobs be extracted from an Android device ?" and this will let someone know if they are looking at doing what cannot be done.
thanks Roy
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Simple answer, not all android devices are equal.
Can the bootloader be unlocked, is it a Qualcomm device, is it a Samsung device?
Those and a dozen other specs affect the answers.

Thanks for the feedback,
sd_shadow said:
Simple answer, not all android devices are equal.
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But a simple flow chart could really help, simple yes/no so if you say yes to the bootloader can be unlocked then onto chipsets, so does it have Qualcom and you say no, then does it have Mediatek and you say yes it could say this is possible but now get reading the forums and learn because it is feasable and not going to take you to a dead end.

Yes/no answers would be too restrictive in some cases. A full answer would help you more.
Otherwise, you'll turn into a 5-yo:
"Yes"
"why?"
"Because 'this' is how it works."
"why?"

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Point of View TAB-PROTAB2-IPS9

Hello
Anyone out here as or have seen the kernel source code of this tablet? TAB-PROTAB2-IPS9
i already asked Point of View for it and i m waiting for a reply, just checking if anyone has this info already
thanks
Rictec
no one
rictec said:
Hello
Anyone out here as or have seen the kernel source code of this tablet? TAB-PROTAB2-IPS9
i already asked Point of View for it and i m waiting for a reply, just checking if anyone has this info already
thanks
Rictec
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hum no one knows this?
rictec said:
hum no one knows this?
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This is based on the Allwinner A10 chipset.
There are some custom roms out there for that platform, but a device specific bundle is needed with it.
I have not been able to find that bundle, it seems without the proper one, the touchscreen probably has no driver (en thus does not work).
Search XDA and you will find the discussion.
A nice tutorial :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETFthBydHU0
rictec said:
Hello
Anyone out here as or have seen the kernel source code of this tablet? TAB-PROTAB2-IPS9
i already asked Point of View for it and i m waiting for a reply, just checking if anyone has this info already
thanks
Rictec
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Hi,
I saw your post on another site too I think.
I also requested source code, but the support people replied they would not give it.
I kindly pointed them to the GPL and the fact they are legally obliged to release the source code.
After that I have not heard from them.
I also mailed to gpl-violations.org for advice.
would be nice if those companies stop being arrogant and allow proper development.
By the way, Archos seems to do this. Samsung does, Tomtom too and a bunch of others as well.
If the source of this tablet will not be published by them, I will not by any Point Of View product again.
Besides that I would advice all people not to by anything from them anymore.
Let's hope they will comply. Other people, if you read this, please send a mail to ask them.
the more requests, the better!
check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1932626
perhaps better to close this thread?
hi.
Where I can find custom firmare for POV TAB-PROTAB2-IPS9 ?
thx

Help rooting Panasonic Toughpad

Hi Guys,
Ive done some preliminary searches and haven't found anything specific yet for this device.
I'm new to rooting devices but attempting to get up to speed asap.
So would there be some people willing to lend their expertise to help me root these devices?
Also under a bit of a deadline with this as I have only about 13- 14 days to get the Toughpad rooted.
No link to Toughpad specs until I have ten posts.
I will try to give out what ever information is needed to get this done.
The Info I have to start with is as follows:
Model no. FZ-a1
Android version: 4.0.3
Kernal : 3.0.8 ( [email protected] )
Build Number : IML74k.V1.01L46M0000
So I'm going to keep looking and learning in the mean time.
Hope to learn a lot, Thanks in advance.
Also if this is in the wrong place let me know and I will move it.
Some basic security specs
I broke the link due to security restrictions.
ftp:/
/ftp.panasonic.com/pub/Panasonic/business/toughpad/downloads/Toughpad_Security_Slick_LR.pdf
I will fix it when I can.

[Q] HELP - But where did android.policy.jar in Marshmallow ?

Hello everyone,
I recently posted on the forum a call for help that has not received a real answer ... and I'm still looking after a real answer ... ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/help-how-to-3-reboot-marshmallow-stock-t3246578 )
After various research I realized that the file android.policy.jar had completely disappeared from the new version of Android : Android Marshmallow
I am convinced that its functions must be found somewhere, but I really don't know where.
So, impossible for me to make my "3-way Reboot" on my Nexus 5.
I'm almost certain, in view of many topics on how to make reboot options, as people here have an answer to that, that's why I allow myself to insist and to open another topic on this issue ... but where is android.policy.jar ???
Does anyone have the answer here is what anyone would want to answer me please? :good:
Thank you in advance for all those who will contribute their knowledge on the subject :laugh:
Oli87000 said:
Hello everyone,
I recently posted on the forum a call for help that has not received a real answer ... and I'm still looking after a real answer ... ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/help-how-to-3-reboot-marshmallow-stock-t3246578 )
After various research I realized that the file android.policy.jar had completely disappeared from the new version of Android : Android Marshmallow
I am convinced that its functions must be found somewhere, but I really don't know where.
So, impossible for me to make my "3-way Reboot" on my Nexus 5.
I'm almost certain, in view of many topics on how to make reboot options, as people here have an answer to that, that's why I allow myself to insist and to open another topic on this issue ... but where is android.policy.jar ???
Does anyone have the answer here is what anyone would want to answer me please? :good:
Thank you in advance for all those who will contribute their knowledge on the subject :laugh:
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A little late but it's called services.jar now
AndroidPolicy.jar file changed to Services.jar. the files are there

[DEV] Work in progress LineageOS 16.0 for Nubia Z18 NX606J

Hey,
over the last few weeks I've used my Christmas vacation to start working on the Z18 again. However since work is coming up again soon, I won't have that much time (and nerves) for working on this properly until the end of summer probably.
That's why I want to share my codebase with you, so maybe someone can pick up where I left off (and really, it's nothing big I did. I merely set up the device tree and made it compile more or less. It doesn't boot because of avb and I'm not aware of any way around that)
The device tree can be found here. It's still using a prebuilt kernel but I'll work on fixing the kernel source to a compileable state next.
If anyone wants to get involved, help or pick this up, feel free to do so. The community and I are always happy for help.
Explanations of what the next steps would be can be found below.
Again, do not install this unless you want to softbrick! It's not useable at all and will currently fail at boot verification!!
So what's next?
Fixing avb2.0: This isn't an easy task. How I understand, it either needs the official keys or I failed at signing the build with test keys from LineageOS. Either way this is the first step and top priority so the device boots again at least
EDIT: It seems that https://github.com/rockchip-linux/tools/tree/master/linux/Linux_SecurityAVB might be of some use (given that youyim123, the guy who also did the TWRP for Z18 starred this project). However I don't speak Chinese and putting my device in the hands of Google Translate is risky.. so anyone willing to translate, I'm open for DMs or anything
EDIT2: avb is working, so we can move on to breaking our system now (yay)
Hi, Its a long time i am waiting for a suitable rom to be installed in my Nubia Z18. Can you tell me when this rom can get out? Your effort is highly appreciated.
Zahidul Hasan said:
Hi, Its a long time i am waiting for a suitable rom to be installed in my Nubia Z18. Can you tell me when this rom can get out? Your effort is highly appreciated.
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Sorry but I can't give you any ETA on this. I'm working on it in my little free time and I'm not even sure what I'm really doing with this. The source is all on the GitHub repo I linked in the OP though, so if you're hesitant and want to get a working ROM, just get involved. It's really not that hard, all it requires is time, patience and lots of googling for weird error messages and further features you want to implement.
You can mostly follow the guide here https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/bacon/build just replace the bacon command with nx606j-eng and you're good to go and build this yourself. Maybe you can figure out avb since I can't do it by myself, so any help is appreciated.
Dear Sir, Thank you so much for your reply. Last day i tried to push a TWRP from here TWRP installed, but failed to install any gaapps. although process said success.
curtisy said:
Sorry but I can't give you any ETA on this. I'm working on it in my little free time and I'm not even sure what I'm really doing with this. The source is all on the GitHub repo I linked in the OP though, so if you're hesitant and want to get a working ROM, just get involved. It's really not that hard, all it requires is time, patience and lots of googling for weird error messages and further features you want to implement.
You can mostly follow the guide here https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/bacon/build just replace the bacon command with nx606j-eng and you're good to go and build this yourself. Maybe you can figure out avb since I can't do it by myself, so any help is appreciated.
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Zahidul Hasan said:
Dear Sir, Thank you so much for your reply. Last day i tried to push a TWRP from here TWRP installed, but failed to install any gaapps. although process said success.
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Yeah, that thread, if most of the development threads on the Z18 so far, was made by me. I also mentioned in post #3 that flashing Gapps doesn't seem to be working and I was trying to ask the GApps team for help. I never got an answer though, so I stopped looking into this and instead focused my effort on providing a working Lineage build for everyone. The result of that is this thread here
Hey curtisy, are u building lineage OS forZ18 right now?
im chinese and can help to test this rom if need tester, I've a Z18 on hand rite now and still finding a solution to solve the "GAPP" problem
try to flash GAPP package but no luck!
hope the Lineage can release soon for testing~tks!
sky104hk said:
Hey curtisy, are u building lineage OS forZ18 right now?
im chinese and can help to test this rom if need tester, I've a Z18 on hand rite now and still finding a solution to solve the "GAPP" problem
try to flash GAPP package but no luck!
hope the Lineage can release soon for testing~tks!
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I'm not building it right now. As I said, the project is pretty much on standby for anyone to take it where I left it but I'm still working on it sometimes and try to get it to work. The big issue is that the Z18 uses avb2 which I'm not sure how to bypass and which is also why the Lineage I built will not boot correctly. I don't want to seem rude saying this over and over again, but rather than testing, it would help if I had some more people to get involved. Just download the source and follow the instructions I mentioned in post#4. Progress will be much faster if there was a team behind this and not only one guy who doesn't know what he's doing most of the time. Also getting support in the Lineage IRC is tedious because I can't be online 24/7, so having some more people nag about avb2 there would also be of huge help.
And when there finally is something to test, not only will you be satisfied by your own achievement, but you can also be the initial tester since you built the ROM yourself.
PS: The Gapps issue is probably because of avb2 as well, however I'm not too sure about that
curtisy said:
I'm not building it right now. As I said, the project is pretty much on standby for anyone to take it where I left it but I'm still working on it sometimes and try to get it to work. The big issue is that the Z18 uses avb2 which I'm not sure how to bypass and which is also why the Lineage I built will not boot correctly. I don't want to seem rude saying this over and over again, but rather than testing, it would help if I had some more people to get involved. Just download the source and follow the instructions I mentioned in post#4. Progress will be much faster if there was a team behind this and not only one guy who doesn't know what he's doing most of the time. Also getting support in the Lineage IRC is tedious because I can't be online 24/7, so having some more people nag about avb2 there would also be of huge help.
And when there finally is something to test, not only will you be satisfied by your own achievement, but you can also be the initial tester since you built the ROM yourself.
PS: The Gapps issue is probably because of avb2 as well, however I'm not too sure about that
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OK I understand your situation, probably not as many ppl own this phone at all...there are many ppl doing developement in Oneplus 6 which I actually own that phone, the Z18 is actually my fd, therefore I cannot keep the phone long...just wonder if there have more ppl involve to this...the "avb2" I'll check to see if anyone on the net doing this, haha! the only solution is more developer involve to this phone!
sky104hk said:
OK I understand your situation, probably not as many ppl own this phone at all...there are many ppl doing developement in Oneplus 6 which I actually own that phone, the Z18 is actually my fd, therefore I cannot keep the phone long...just wonder if there have more ppl involve to this...the "avb2" I'll check to see if anyone on the net doing this, haha! the only solution is more developer involve to this phone!
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As a quick update for everyone here as well because the discussion has somewhat shifted to the TWRP thread I worked around avb now. I also have a system.img but it's not working as of yet. If you want to get stuck in a boot loop, feel free to ask here and I'll attach the files in the OP for you to try and modify. Without building from source, there's probably not that much you can do though.
Hint: try booting phh-treble GSI first.
j1505243 said:
Hint: try booting phh-treble GSI first.
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Thanks! Going to try that later but out of curiosity, isn't the reason this phone doesn't have google services out of the box that it wasn't certified by google? If so it's not treble compatible either right? Or am I missing something?
curtisy said:
Thanks! Going to try that later but out of curiosity, isn't the reason this phone doesn't have google services out of the box that it wasn't certified by google? If so it's not treble compatible either right? Or am I missing something?
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An uncertified device can be freely Treble compatible, so it's really worth to try. Remember to join the Telegram chat of phh-treble if you happen to need some quicker response.
j1505243 said:
An uncertified device can be freely Treble compatible, so it's really worth to try. Remember to join the Telegram chat of phh-treble if you happen to need some quicker response.
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Awesome. Thank you for the heads up! Might be worth to invest some time in this again then.
j1505243 said:
Hint: try booting phh-treble GSI first.
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Alright, I tried and I don't think it's working. I get stuck in a bootloop again which repeats every few seconds.
Since I got Lineage compiled, wouldn't it be a better idea to just get that working and be done with it?
Any help is much appreciated!
Hello curtisy, I wish you good luck with your work on the Nubia Z18. I'd love to help you, but unfortunately I have no skills at android developing. Anyway... in case you will get LineageOS to run, I'd be very happy to post an instruction for the installation on my website chinahandys.net. Liebe Grüße, Joscha
curtisy said:
Alright, I tried and I don't think it's working. I get stuck in a bootloop again which repeats every few seconds.
Since I got Lineage compiled, wouldn't it be a better idea to just get that working and be done with it?
Any help is much appreciated!
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Booting non-GSI will only be tougher :/ Capture deep level logs and inspect that. If you need help, join a phh-treble chat somewhere.
j1505243 said:
Booting non-GSI will only be tougher :/ Capture deep level logs and inspect that. If you need help, join a phh-treble chat somewhere.
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Yeah that's actually the same point I stopped at with Lineage. Got it to boot to the Nubia logo, captured logs and I can see some weird errors. But getting replies on IRC is a pain, especially if I can only be online for 2hrs a day. That's why I had hoped someone would pick this up but to no avail. Guess I'll have to look into it again and experiment.
Thanks for your help so far! If there's any more tips you want to share, I'm always open for them
furiousjay said:
Hello curtisy, I wish you good luck with your work on the Nubia Z18. I'd love to help you, but unfortunately I have no skills at android developing. Anyway... in case you will get LineageOS to run, I'd be very happy to post an instruction for the installation on my website chinahandys.net. Liebe Grüße, Joscha
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Hey, sure thing I actually know the site well and got the idea of getting a Z18 from your site. In case you know anyone that might be able to help with logs or anything, I'm always open for suggestions and help.
As a general rule of thumb, so far the process isn't exactly easy because it requires proprietary software. The issue is with boot verification, so to get around that, I rooted my phone with some Chinese Windows application (still trying to reverse that to get the actual keys..) then I could start flashing. The process is tedious though as every failure means reflashing the original rom as well as running the root tool again. I'll try to make it simpler and cross platform once the rom actually works. But it's still a long way to that point.
curtisy said:
Hey, sure thing I actually know the site well and got the idea of getting a Z18 from your site. In case you know anyone that might be able to help with logs or anything, I'm always open for suggestions and help.
As a general rule of thumb, so far the process isn't exactly easy because it requires proprietary software. The issue is with boot verification, so to get around that, I rooted my phone with some Chinese Windows application (still trying to reverse that to get the actual keys..) then I could start flashing. The process is tedious though as every failure means reflashing the original rom as well as running the root tool again. I'll try to make it simpler and cross platform once the rom actually works. But it's still a long way to that point.
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Unfortunately I personally don't know somebody who has the skills to support you. I have included a call for support for your project in our review.

Create TWRP using Auto TWRP Porter.

Hi,
Today I am here with new post.
As you know I am now posting new posts daily.
Many of you have a phone that is less popular and there is no active developer for that device but did you know that there is a way that you can be a developer of your own.
There is team Hovatek that they made up a tool to make TWRP maker tool which you can use to make your own TWRP recovery for your phone and be an engineer of your phone but note that your phone must have common chipset on it like Mediatek, Spreadtrum, etc and your android version must be Android 5,6,7,8,8.1,9 otherwise you need to port it your self.
I am making this post for people like me to help them get a test of Custom recovery.
Thanks, Folk.
I will continue it on Part 2
Roktim iH said:
Hi,
Today i am here with new post.
As you know i am now posting new post daily.
Many of you have phone that is less popular and there is no active developer for that device but did you know that there is a way that you can be a developer of your own.
There is team Hovatek that they made up a tool to make TWRP maker tool which you can use to make your own TWRP recovery for your phone and be a engineer of your phone but note that your phone must have popular chipset on itself like Mediatek,Spreadtrum etc and your android version must be Android 5,6,7,8,8.1,9 otherwise you need to port it your self.
I am making this post for people like me to help them get a test of Custom recovery.
Thanks Folk.
I will continue it on Part 2
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Did you just say Mediatek and Spreadtrum are "popular" chipsets?
Lol, no, I don't think so.
Most real developers avoid devices with those processors.
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well I'm so glad to heard about it, mm and maybe I'm so happy about it . well absolutely I can't wait for this one. I'll see you at the next part
so where is the next part?
Sorry
MarvinMod said:
so where is the next part?
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Sorry for replying late. But I will make it soon.

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