Hi,
with the latest Android versions I found Titanium Backup to get more and more unreliable. For example I was not able to use batch restore after my recent migration to the Pixel 6 because Titanium Backup would get stuck after a couple of apps.
So my question is: What's the best root/non-root backup app right now?
Thanks!
> [ https://www.xda-developers.com/lineageos-seedvault-open-source-backup-solution/ ]
> I just restored all my apps and system data on a Shamshung Handroid 11 AB partition device from a previous TWRP backup, storage data has to be backed up separately though. The phone was just like it was before except the media files photos etc, I had to put them back in using a pen drive.
> My guess is TB doesnt work like before coz Super partition and A/B slots now, it can't convert a user app into system app etc. but some functions still work. if your device is A/B type then you might find this link interesting with regards to backups too. Just general FYI thing.
Thanks. I didn't know about that. But it seems that there is no standalone version and it needs to be built into the is itself. So this is not really useful for me, since I want to stay on the stock Ron with Magisk.
since I want to stay on the stock Ron with Magisk
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I didnt know that so I had mentioned TWRP. You might Find something here. I have quoted below from the same link above. The link was last active on May the 7th 2022.
OhioYJ said:
After using Titanium Backup Pro for years, I've pretty much switched over to Swift Backup. I just use it locally without any cloud backup. Not sure how it would react without Gapps. However since you have microg I would assume it should work.
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+1000, the best for me
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There is also fully free backup tool OAndBackupX
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Titanium stopped working nicely for me too. I just use it to freeze apps and small stuff.
Migrate works good.
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For TB, i noticed it hangs on restoring of apps. But if i install app via PlayStore or manually via APK and then restore app data in TB it works as promised.
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swift backup is recommended and i can restore without any issue with it
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XDA is great.
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I didnt know that so I had mentioned TWRP. You might Find something here. I have quoted below from the same link above. The link was last active on May the 7th 2022.
XDA is great.
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hi sorry swift is not okay for me it complains about ed exposed (firtst it demanded a lock screen) but i am not going to remove edexposed using neobackup now but it wont restore apks. and often the data onoy restore does not do any thing. i reallly mis titanium backup..
Hans de Groot said:
hi sorry swift is not okay for me it complains about ed exposed (firtst it demanded a lock screen) but i am not going to remove edexposed using neobackup now but it wont restore apks. and often the data onoy restore does not do any thing. i reallly mis titanium backup..
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I've been using swift backup for over 6months and it works like 95% of the time
I have lsposed and swiftbackup doesn't give me any warnings
mic_0 said:
I've been using swift backup for over 6months and it works like 95% of the time
I have lsposed and swiftbackup doesn't give me any warnings
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hi thx for your reply.
no swfit does nor give any warnings. i noticed but so far i do not think it managed to restore any app data or settings neo backup does it some times after i install apk from play and then restore data only in neo. does not works all the tiume but some times i gety lucky. but allin all very disapointing spent 4 days trying to root my new phone with out bricking it my main reason was to be able to restore my backups so sad to learn titanium backup is gone used it a lot in the past. the idea was to only restore the apps I was missing not just every thing i had on my old phone (like a natural filter) but is sems the worl dhas gone total paranoid with security so lost of functionality (progress) has been scarificed for my security like I would be in danger if my bloodpressure would get known to the internet now I feeel every one knows exceptt me. or backup software refusing to backup if you do not wish to encrpt your data on sdcard) (no of course I di not want to encrypt my local backups I feelle it would just an othe risc of loosing my data. Where it once was omportant not to loose your data not every thing seems focused on destroying my data at the first sign of any danger. I rather have a copy of my vacarion pictures out in the wild than loose them my self for ever. I understand some people think different. but darn pls let me choose.
Hans de Groot said:
hi thx for your reply.
no swfit does nor give any warnings. i noticed but so far i do not think it managed to restore any app data or settings neo backup does it some times after i install apk from play and then restore data only in neo. does not works all the tiume but some times i gety lucky. but allin all very disapointing spent 4 days trying to root my new phone with out bricking it my main reason was to be able to restore my backups so sad to learn titanium backup is gone used it a lot in the past. the idea was to only restore the apps I was missing not just every thing i had on my old phone (like a natural filter) but is sems the worl dhas gone total paranoid with security so lost of functionality (progress) has been scarificed for my security like I would be in danger if my bloodpressure would get known to the internet now I feeel every one knows exceptt me. or backup software refusing to backup if you do not wish to encrpt your data on sdcard) (no of course I di not want to encrypt my local backups I feelle it would just an othe risc of loosing my data. Where it once was omportant not to loose your data not every thing seems focused on destroying my data at the first sign of any danger. I rather have a copy of my vacarion pictures out in the wild than loose them my self for ever. I understand some people think different. but darn pls let me choose.
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I understand you
But you also have to know that the developers of titanium backup haven't released an update for over 4yrs so it is reasonable that it cannot work perfectly in higher android versions
Security has always been the talking point right now
And like you said people have different perspectives
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I understand you
But you also have to know that the developers of titanium backup haven't released an update for over 4yrs so it is reasonable that it cannot work perfectly in higher android versions
Security has always been the talking point right now
And like you said people have different perspectives
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hi thx for youre reply.
i am not upset with the developers (we should be glad they exist at all but just un happy with the way thing go in the cyber world.) I just learned my brand new samsung phone can't be used with my drone since the dji fly app is not compatible with android 13 for some reason. I blame google (google reallay is the compatibilie antichrist isnt it?)) and dji. Google for updating to fast and dji for not being ready for the new restrictions. I mean both are not small names I could read my heart rate with the 3 euro "smart"wathchs from ali express the only (big) down side was that the battery drained in like 1 hour and or problems with bluetooth not connecting. So my wife bought me the 180 euro "original" well it strays connected (mostly) but heart rate? no way is not safe for me to know. but yes its perspective.
Than she made it worse buy buying me a samsung phone thinking samnsung+samsung should work.. I mean I have the IR sensor of my TV in the lower left corner and there is a something blocking it so I have to stretchs to have my remote reach the sensor. Now its obviously not posisble (easy) for me to move the sensor. but in software it should be easy. (or at least cheap and possible after the thing is made (most of the times)).
About titanium backup. That really was an awesome program a shame the developer(s) stopped. (No bad feelings I just miss the app) It used to work like magic. I guess not enough people bought the pro version. (maybe google will come with android premium soon)
yeah I feel evry udate I get lesss. While the pre 2000 slogan was updatews more features Maybe that was true than for me evry update I loose lost of features one thing I did notice and love is the option (it seems as default android option) to reverse the back and recents button on the phone since it got swapped compared my old phone and I am old and slow to adapt and the settitings elst me change it) that actually made me smile. if only google could be google again and spent some effort in letting users tweak the phone to make it work like the user wants. WIthout needing to root.
Maybe in android 23.
ps never unpair your galaxy watch form your phone. coz even if you reconnectct it the stupid eatch thinks its a new phone and it is goin gto factory rest it self. wow great idea.
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hi sorry swift is not okay for me it complains about ed exposed (firtst it demanded a lock screen) but i am not going to remove edexposed using neobackup now but it wont restore apks. and often the data onoy restore does not do any thing. i reallly mis titanium backup..
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Heres what i do:
1> (If you have Org TWRP/ Custom TWRP) Reboot to that TWRP (Regardless of whether youre on Custom ROM/ Stock ROM/ Modified Stock ROM/ Ported ROM with or without Magisk)
2> In TWRP, Mount all partitions that are Mountable.
3> In TWRP, Go to WIPE section and select Advanced Wipe then Wipe Dalvik/ART Cache & Cache Partitions.
4> In TWRP, Go to BACKUP section then Select the following Partitions: Boot, Recovery, Data, Odm, Product, Vendor , System & Storage.
5> Create the Nandroid (TWRP) Backup (Typically the backup size comes to 7-8 GB if RAM SWAP File hasnt been created prior to backup).
6> #NOTE: Dont rely on Internal Storage Backup, it may/may not backup your personal data, so use a pen drive/OTG to backup the Internal Storage files. Also, don't select any other Partitions except the ones mentioned above.
7> Once the Baclup is done DONT CUT PASTE RATHER COPY the Backup TWRP Folder from the Internal Storage directly to PC using TWRP MTP (dont boot to android & then copy the Backup).
8> While restoring the backup from TWRP later if you find (error: File too large) then First Flash Custom ROM/Stock ROM etc.(Dont boot to Android yet), Leave out the file (system_image.emmc.win) and copy the rest to Internal Storage or OTG using TWRP MTP. Let TWRP restore remaining Files except (system_image.emmc.win)
9> After restoration completed , Wipe Dalvik/ART & Cache Partitions again , then REBOOT to TWRP. YOUR DEVICE WILL BE RESTORED TO PRE-BACKUP STATE.
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hi thanks for your detailed guide. but i never got twrp installed. only magisk. fastboot seems no longer available so just flasing boot.img was not and option for me on my a13 i managed magics by not patching the boot.img but the whole ap_ firmware file. but that does not matter
i am looking for a way to make an individual backup of the app and data so i can backup before uninstall and if i regret my uninstalll i can restore that single app. or use it to tranfer my apps + data to my new phone .
i used to do that with titanium all the to time. i guess its called progress and i am a lot safer now i cant have decent backups.
but hey thanks again for your effort explaining. i am sure some one else can use that information
Hans de Groot said:
hi thanks for your detailed guide. but i never got twrp installed. only magisk. fastboot seems no longer available so just flasing boot.img was not and option for me on my a13 i managed magics by not patching the boot.img but the whole ap_ firmware file. but that does not matter
i am looking for a way to make an individual backup of the app and data so i can backup before uninstall and if i regret my uninstalll i can restore that single app. or use it to tranfer my apps + data to my new phone .
i used to do that with titanium all the to time. i guess its called progress and i am a lot safer now i cant have decent backups.
but hey thanks again for your effort explaining. i am sure some one else can use that information
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Hi Hans,
Yeah backing up an individual app was nice in TB Pro but the method I told you maybe look to be a huge 7-8Gb file but if you mess up a single app you can still revert back to how the device was just before you messed upthe app, i mean the backup takes about 2-3 minutes and restorations take even lesser about less than a minute. So for now TWRP backup does work flawlessly for at least Virtual A/B Partition devices. You could try reaching out to TB Devs on PleySthore or Tgram maybe to request for an update for recent Andoid versions. Good Luck.
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i'm reading through all the posts for people updating to the new firmware and wiping away all their data without a care. how can you afford to do that so easily?
I have lots of data like SMS messages I need to keep around, applications that cant be downloaded anymore (such as hello aim beta, wifi tether), settings, etc.. that I just can't wipe my phone. how are you people keeping this data around?
I personally use apps to Sd card and to backup sms and such I use MyBackup Pro available on market for about $5. It works great. Go try it. You can even back up applications with it.
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i'm reading through all the posts for people updating to the new firmware and wiping away all their data without a care. how can you afford to do that so easily?
I have lots of data like SMS messages I need to keep around, applications that cant be downloaded anymore (such as hello aim beta, wifi tether), settings, etc.. that I just can't wipe my phone. how are you people keeping this data around?
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I usually will run a nandroid backup first then i can just flash it back without any trouble after the wipe.
I also have GSCRIPT on the phone and have a script that backs up all my apps to the SD and then I have a SCRIPT that will reinstall all my APPS when it is all said and done if I need it for those times that I am unable to backup first.
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i'm reading through all the posts for people updating to the new firmware and wiping away all their data without a care. how can you afford to do that so easily?
I have lots of data like SMS messages I need to keep around, applications that cant be downloaded anymore (such as hello aim beta, wifi tether), settings, etc.. that I just can't wipe my phone. how are you people keeping this data around?
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I always make a nandroid backup. As a matter of fact, I make a nandroid backup weekly or before I do anything drastic to my phone like delete all SMS or try something new. Nandroid backup process takes but 5 minutes. Most of the apps can be downloaded over again and most of SMS are of no importance. All my pics and audio and wallpapers are on SD, so that automatically gets moved.
If I ever need to reference to something, I just flash the nandroid backup, look up what I need and then flash back to the other nandroid backup etc. So far that is my game plan, but i've yet to do this as I've never really had the need to go back.
It is tedious process especially for the apps but I have kept a list and it isn't too bad.
there are other wifi tether programs that are probably better than what you had before.
anything and everything is out there apk wise, if you know where to look.
but, there are backup programs and since I don't use them (other than nandroid), hopefully someone can comment on them.
question, i can do a nandroid backup fine without any problems. i believe i am using jf1.42 recovery image, but lets say my phone bricks, whatever nandroid backed up for me, how do i install it back again? n00b question i know but ive searched around and havnt found that answer yet.
I haven't wiped my phone in over a month.
I use MyBackup Pro. Backs up all your Data, Apps, and settings. And, of course, I make a nandroid backup before I flash anything.
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question, i can do a nandroid backup fine without any problems. i believe i am using jf1.42 recovery image, but lets say my phone bricks, whatever nandroid backed up for me, how do i install it back again? n00b question i know but ive searched around and havnt found that answer yet.
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Here's a quick and easy explanation: http://androidcommunity.com/forums/168953-post6.html
I've tried the Nandroid back up, but for the life of me I can't get ADB working on my computer. Is there a script to run it through recovery mode or through the terminal emulator?
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Hi Aim beta is still available in the market (Is it different from hello AIM beta?) and wifi tether for root users is still available at google code. If there was a program that I wanted that was no longer available I would just back it up to SD before wiping. For SMS I use SMS backup. That way SMS streams are available all the time in my gmail (not that I consider my SMS messages all that important)
Settings take me a little while to get back but usually if I am wiping to put on a new ROM my workflow will change a bit so redoing settings from scratch is not a big deal.
Given that contacts calendar and mail are synced with gmail, wiping is less a concern for me than it was with WM. Reloading apps takes a bit of time but it is not a major effort since most things are either on the market or on my SD.
...what everyone else said.
Also, I use fastboot on the computer side (Windows XP) to get Nandroid's backups back on my phone. This only works if you have the engineering bootloader, though (the thing with the three skateboarding androids). First, you'll have to copy "boot.img," "data.img," and "system.img" to whatever folder fastboot's in. Open up your command prompt. The command line you use is this:
cd *whatever directory fastboot's in*
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash userdata data.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot reboot
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I use nandroid and mybackup pro.
Heres a question for the ages. If i do a nandroid backup on say...JF's 1.5ADP and then update to Haykuros image, after a wipe, would i have a problem if i was to fastboot flash my data.img file? Would it cause problems? I have yet to try it.
Does mybackup pro back up paid apps?
I dont really care about my txt i mean i got alot of txt but nothing to much to be save..I use appmanger to save my .apk apps to sd. and contacts are sync to google so yeah thats all i do.
If you have apps to sd it's as easy as following any apps to sd tutorial. All your apps that are already on your sd card will pop right back into your phone. In case anyone didn't know this. I tried and found out that it worked. So PM me for more details. I can't do much right now. But I can let you know what commands to type in adb shell or terminal emu.
Using the apps to sd, once I set the links up, everything is back, although my protected apps show up as the .apk name as with a gear icon. I have to uninstall then re-install those. But I am looking around for ways to remedy that. I think I found one post, but haven't wiped since I found it.
Hi there! I've been reading (a lot) around here the last months and that's been really helpfull. Went from stock GB on my locked XPS through just about all ROM's available for XPS to CM10 now. Thanks XDA, thanks all!
Still a real lot to learn. One of the things that really keeps me wondering is which method (besides a Nandroid) I shld use for backing up. Google takes care of my contacts and settings automatically. But what is the best tool to backup and restore my apps (question 1)? I've used Astro, Go Backup and several others I can't even remember. And if I use one, do I still need Gapps all the time or is that doing a double job (question 2)?
My last question: I understand doing an upgrade of your custom rom you don't need to swipe, so your data stays. But if you do need to, when can you do a data restore after installing a new ROM (question 3)?
1. For backing up and restoring apps, I use Titanium Backup and I think most people would swear by it ( it's worth the donate for the extra features ). For sms though, GoSMS's backup feature is the best working one for me.
2. I'm pretty sure you still need to flash Gapps, but I'm not sure. Been off Cyan for a while. Besides, I think flashing Gapps is faster than restoring through most backup apps.
3. It depends on the rom and you should read the ROM's thread, but I always wipe between updates just in case ( I have an SGSII ). If you mean restore data by Titanium or another app, I think after letting the phone sit for 10 minutes on initial new ROM boot, you can start restoring apps. If you mean selectively restoring just data through nandroid though, I'm not sure if that should even be done, or how exactly to minimize issues.
Hope that helps.
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1. For backing up and restoring apps, I use Titanium Backup and I think most people would swear by it ( it's worth the donate for the extra features ). For sms though, GoSMS's backup feature is the best working one for me.
2. I'm pretty sure you still need to flash Gapps, but I'm not sure. Been off Cyan for a while. Besides, I think flashing Gapps is faster than restoring through most backup apps.
3. It depends on the rom and you should read the ROM's thread, but I always wipe between updates just in case ( I have an SGSII ). If you mean restore data by Titanium or another app, I think after letting the phone sit for 10 minutes on initial new ROM boot, you can start restoring apps. If you mean selectively restoring just data through nandroid though, I'm not sure if that should even be done, or how exactly to minimize issues.
Hope that helps.
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tx DIMENSIONAL!
Late night yesterday I ran into this app here on fxp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859261 Maybe that might become (be) handy? Not for me yet, due to problems with XPS for this app at the moment
2. Gapps.... Gapps is faster for sure. But not off course not exactly the things you want.... But there's something out to make your own zip.file with all your apps and/or other data and system files in it I think. Stopped reading when it got to complicated for me to try without much feedback at that moment. Sorry I forgot to mark the thread. Lost it for now.
3. I did this data restore thing once after reading a tip in a thread for a particular ROM here somewhere.
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tx DIMENSIONAL!
Late night yesterday I ran into this app here on fxp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859261 Maybe that might become (be) handy? Not for me yet, due to problems with XPS for this app at the moment
2. Gapps.... Gapps is faster for sure. But not off course not exactly the things you want.... But there's something out to make your own zip.file with all your apps and/or other data and system files in it I think. Stopped reading when it got to complicated for me to try without much feedback at that moment. Sorry I forgot to mark the thread. Lost it for now.
3. I did this data restore thing once after reading a tip in a thread for a particular ROM here somewhere.
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edit: installed titanium backup; needs a lot of reading agai,n but looks great! tx again!
Another vote for titanium & the pro key here. I prefer"appextractor“ from the play store for my sms/mms restore & I also use the contact restore feature, since it also takes care of my call log (both of these features use data from nandroid), since I have given up on using titanium to restore sms & get the time accurate.
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My phone is suffering a lot of lags, app crashes, and is slow opening new apps/swithching beetween apps, sometimes refuses even to open keyboard due to low ram
I think it's clear that i need to reset factory it or flash a new room
but there is a lot of thing a want to save:
- Some app currently installed version since i dont like the updated version
-Messeger apps history which i need to recover past conversation informations frequently
- Some game scores
- favorites list (app that do not sinc)
I want to backup some part off the phone so that after i clean it completly, i can restore parts that i like (can't be a full backup or else it will keep the problems)
can anyone help me with some tips or link?
Try Helium app
will try the Heliumapp(as soon as i get more free space storage) looks like he can backup both the app(apk?) and the data...hope so...
do you know if it a bug that my moto G need at least free 500mb of storage so it can install an app (even if it's only 1mb)
Yes, it can backup both - app and data. You just need to activate it through PC.
I think that leaving some space is not a bug, but I've never had such little amount of memory, so can't tell for sure.
tried helium, app has a good potential, but turned to be crap because of greedy developers
app works fine for data backup if you do not uninstall the app or flash the phone
if you do reset your phone and upload back helium folder, it will not recognise it's own files because of some json (developers want you to pay PRO for cloud backup)
so, I will try a little more with this app, but pretty sure will need another one
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since my phone is on 4.4.2, I can root it with tethered pie root (which means if i turn off the phone i lose root, but after it boot again, i can root again)
does it help? maybe titanium backup now works?anyone knows?
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tried helium, app has a good potential, but turned to be crap because of greedy developers
app works fine for data backup if you do not uninstall the app or flash the phone
if you do reset your phone and upload back helium folder, it will not recognise it's own files because of some json (developers want you to pay PRO for cloud backup)
so, I will try a little more with this app, but pretty sure will need another one
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Don't use cloud backup. Try option with saving files on sd card, it's free.
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Don't use cloud backup. Try option with saving files on sd card, it's free.
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moto G first gen does not suport SD cards, only internal memory, but i found on the web that if you reset you phone or flash it, helium will not work as expected
72off said:
moto G first gen does not suport SD cards, only internal memory, but i found on the web that if you reset you phone or flash it, helium will not work as expected
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True, forgot that
This is what I did:
1) made a backup of an app
2) unlocked bl, root, installed custom rom
3) installed this app from play store
4) again made a backup of it
5) replaced some files from the first backup with those with the second one. Unfortunately I don't remember which...
6) restore backup
EDIT: check this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2324232
i've already found it, but as one guy stated, worked with 2 app but not with the third, so i'm not gona take this risc, will wait for a safer backup option
You can try this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-backup-app-backup-restore-t2898674
If you got a usbpen whit microusb or and one microusb adapter for a regular usb.
But only the apps (.apk) since its says that "Can backup apps without data for non-rooted devices."
cumps
I'll be honest, OnePluses Switch backup looks way too easy and nice.
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Twrp always ( and still, right now ! ) confuses me as to which ones to include/exclude. Do I use system -or- system image. Do I use vendor -or- vendor image ? And twrp includes boot.
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Anyone still using Titanium backup ? And it's nice trick of moving all the little app backups into one, convenient update zip.
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Which one do you rely on and why ?
I may be in the minority, but i rarely do actual backups of my device. I mainly rely on Google backup just for my account info such as contacts and photos and i reinstall all my apps manually.
Because of certain work apks that require new provision codes, etc if you reinstall them , I tent to use TB for my needs as I can completely wipe my phone if needs be and reinstall without having to contact IT every time I do so.
I use titanium backup for user apps as backing up and restoring system apps sometimes causes issues
Some user apps don't restore properly either (i.e. Twitter and WhatsApp) so I manually redownload those from the Play Store.
I use an app called SMS Backup and Restore for texts and call log
And Nova backups for my homescreen layout
So is the OP's version of backup backing up everything like TiBu? I want to backup my phone before i root
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Twrp always ( and still, right now ! ) confuses me as to which ones to include/exclude. Do I use system -or- system image. Do I use vendor -or- vendor image ? And twrp includes boot.
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Good question. I haven't noticed until you mentioned it, the "extra" backup options (system image, vendor image). I'd like to hear what those are, or what the difference is.
I can tell you that "boot" is boot.img, which is essentially the kernel. Contains some other things as well, I believe. But kernel is the biggy. It is essential in making the ROM/OS work, and you should definitely include it in the backup.
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I may be in the minority, but i rarely do actual backups of my device. I mainly rely on Google backup just for my account info such as contacts and photos and i reinstall all my apps manually.
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That's fine for user data and apps. But one of the most important features of TWRP is the ability to backup and restore the ROM/OS. If you are modding the phone, you should always be backup up the ROM; or alternately know how to restore the stock OS using the stock recovery images (fastboot restore).
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That's fine for user data and apps. But one of the most important features of TWRP is the ability to backup and restore the ROM/OS. If you are modding the phone, you should always be backup up the ROM; or alternately know how to restore the stock OS using the stock recovery images (fastboot restore).
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Fastboot restore is my go to for fixing most problems i encounter. So while yes, it is still probably a good idea to have an actual backup, i haven't had any issue where a fastboot restore or msmtool restore didn't fix my issue. Obviously this isn't ideal for everyone, but for me its just easier to do a full wipe and start fresh.
I prefer Migrate for ROM switching, and Titanium Backup as a secondary/individual app restore solution. Nandroid in TWRP once every 3-4 weeks as a hail-mary.
protechtedd said:
I prefer Migrate for ROM switching, and Titanium Backup as a secondary/individual app restore solution. Nandroid in TWRP once every 3-4 weeks as a hail-mary.
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Thank you for pointing out a new one that looks very interesting ! For brave people trying different ROM's.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=balti.migrate
Migrate.......
Hunter3U said:
Fastboot restore is my go to for fixing most problems i encounter. So while yes, it is still probably a good idea to have an actual backup, i haven't had any issue where a fastboot restore or msmtool restore didn't fix my issue. Obviously this isn't ideal for everyone, but for me its just easier to do a full wipe and start fresh.
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Yeah, a full wipe is needed sometimes. I always try a dirty fix first over a clean wipe fix. I've been lucky with the dirty method so far with the OnePlus. ( twice now )
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* * * I think I read that OnePlus only has OTA's ?
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But there is this great dev @mauronofrio who gives us a recovery that he builds from a full OTA.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/rom-stock-fastboot-roms-oneplus-7-pro-t3931424
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He's also the critically important person that spearheaded ( work, work, work through the gotchas ) our phone's twrp !
equlizer said:
So is the OP's version of backup backing up everything like TiBu? I want to backup my phone before i root
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It is only my personal opinion . . . that you would be best served by the backup function done in the OnePlus Switch app.
redpoint73 said:
Good question. I haven't noticed until you mentioned it, the "extra" backup options (system image, vendor image). I'd like to hear what those are, or what the difference is.
I can tell you that "boot" is boot.img, which is essentially the kernel. Contains some other things as well, I believe. But kernel is the biggy. It is essential in making the ROM/OS work, and you should definitely include it in the backup.
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That's fine for user data and apps. But one of the most important features of TWRP is the ability to backup and restore the ROM/OS. If you are modding the phone, you should always be backup up the ROM; or alternately know how to restore the stock OS using the stock recovery images (fastboot restore).
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System image and vendor image are the full partions sector by sector (used and not used space)
System and vendor partitions are just the used space.
OP: I don't do full backups, always reinstall apps, get calendar and contacts from Google, WhatsApp own backup and for sms/calls I use sms backup (app from play store).
uvitor said:
System image and vendor image are the full partions sector by sector (used and not used space)
System and vendor partitions are just the used space.
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Good to know, thanks.
Any reason why you would want to backup the unused space? Seems like a waste, when the system and vendor partitions worked fine in the past to backup/restore.
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Hunter3U said:
Fastboot restore is my go to for fixing most problems i encounter. So while yes, it is still probably a good idea to have an actual backup, i haven't had any issue where a fastboot restore or msmtool restore didn't fix my issue. Obviously this isn't ideal for everyone, but for me its just easier to do a full wipe and start fresh.
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Either is fine really. Actually, I've been finding the stock recovery images and full OTA zips for OnePlus devices (I came from the 3T) so reliable and easy to use, that I've been backing up the ROM by TWRP less and less.
redpoint73 said:
Any reason why you would want to backup the unused space? Seems like a waste, when the system and vendor partitions worked fine in the past to backup/restore.
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I would love to know the straight skivvy from a twrp guru type. I pretty sure I read ( a week ago . . . somethere ) that it did not work unless you used the larger images. . . . I think.
redpoint73 said:
Good to know, thanks.
Any reason why you would want to backup the unused space? Seems like a waste, when the system and vendor partitions worked fine in the past to backup/restore.
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Either is fine really. Actually, I've been finding the stock recovery images and full OTA zips for OnePlus devices (I came from the 3T) so reliable and easy to use, that I've been backing up the ROM by TWRP less and less.
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It's better because system image is signed so if you restore a normal system backup you can bootloop.
What i can advice is:
disable security code before do the backup;
disable all magisk modules before do the backup;
Use _image option for system and vendor;
Use always the same twrp to make and restore the backup.
protechtedd said:
I prefer Migrate for ROM switching, and Titanium Backup as a secondary/individual app restore solution. Nandroid in TWRP once every 3-4 weeks as a hail-mary.
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Can I ask to confirm if migrate is fully functional and restores apps properly? I've tried this previously, albeit a different device, without success
OP's backup program is not bad but misses lots. I had to re-install about 10 apps due to crashing every time i try and open them. The settings were not saved, none of them! I also had to log back into every single app with name and PW.
I made a backup of the phone before i unlocked bootloader, put it on my computer, unlocked BL, put backup back on phone and restored. It shouldn't miss anything!
cd993 said:
Can I ask to confirm if migrate is fully functional and restores apps properly? I've tried this previously, albeit a different device, without success
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It restores Apps properly each time in my experience, but the data on just a few apps did not restore properly. The app is in Beta, so they are still working on it.
I recommend making a Titanium Backup or a TWRP backup as a *secondary* backup just in case something doesn't work with Migrate. But otherwise Migrate GUI and process is so simple, eventually it will be the best.
Hi,
i need help. How can i restore a nandroid from one oneplus 6 on another?
I tried to do it but ended up in a bootloop to recovery.
Original phone is rooted (which shouldn't be a problem, right) and encrypted and secured with pin, fingerprint and face unlock.
Is maybe the encrption the problem, or has it soething to do with A/B partitions?
Both phones were on the same version of OxygenOS and i used the same version of TWRP.
Any solutions?
Thanks
kerngehirn said:
Hi,
i need help. How can i restore a nandroid from one oneplus 6 on another?
I tried to do it but ended up in a bootloop to recovery.
Original phone is rooted (which shouldn't be a problem, right) and encrypted and secured with pin, fingerprint and face unlock.
Is maybe the encrption the problem, or has it soething to do with A/B partitions?
Both phones were on the same version of OxygenOS and i used the same version of TWRP.
Any solutions?
Thanks
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But why would you want to do that?
Why won't you just transfer all your important files over to the other OP6 and just start fresh. Restoring your apps doesn't take that much time and you'll probably waste more time on getting your original plan to work.
It could very well be that encryption causes issues when trying to restore a nandroid backup.
It's the little things like for example all my open chrome tabs, or the whatsapp images that will be messed up after restore. And so on. It's just so much easier to continue where I left off. No restoring of apps and settings and whatnot.
kerngehirn said:
It's the little things like for example all my open chrome tabs, or the whatsapp images that will be messed up after restore. And so on. It's just so much easier to continue where I left off. No restoring of apps and settings and whatnot.
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But you can just save and restore Chrome sessions as long your logged into the same account right?
And I don't know why you think WhatsApp images will get messed up? Sounds more like a bad experience you had which was probably caused by an unfortunate bug/glitch or an user error. The build-in backup feature of WhatsApp never failed on me and just makes a backup on your GDrive and restores it when you log in with your number again. Manually transferring the WhatsApp folder is an alternative that works fine too.
And what are you planning to do when you get a new device? You'll definitely have to manually restore things then so why can't you now, doesn't take a full day to do so and actually works without issues. But to sum it up, I think you are wasting time by trying to restore a nandroid backup on an other device than it's originally created on.
You also might want to look into Titanium Backup, Migrate or it's alternatives. You can use those two apps to backup apps and their data and possibly more and restore it on a fresh system.
kerngehirn said:
It's the little things like for example all my open chrome tabs, or the whatsapp images that will be messed up after restore. And so on. It's just so much easier to continue where I left off. No restoring of apps and settings and whatnot.
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There are different apps for that such as Migrate, OAndBackupX or Swift which can backup apps as they are now and you can then restore them back to another device without any issues (particularly Migrate)