Restore nandroid on different device - OnePlus 6 Questions & Answers

Hi,
i need help. How can i restore a nandroid from one oneplus 6 on another?
I tried to do it but ended up in a bootloop to recovery.
Original phone is rooted (which shouldn't be a problem, right) and encrypted and secured with pin, fingerprint and face unlock.
Is maybe the encrption the problem, or has it soething to do with A/B partitions?
Both phones were on the same version of OxygenOS and i used the same version of TWRP.
Any solutions?
Thanks

kerngehirn said:
Hi,
i need help. How can i restore a nandroid from one oneplus 6 on another?
I tried to do it but ended up in a bootloop to recovery.
Original phone is rooted (which shouldn't be a problem, right) and encrypted and secured with pin, fingerprint and face unlock.
Is maybe the encrption the problem, or has it soething to do with A/B partitions?
Both phones were on the same version of OxygenOS and i used the same version of TWRP.
Any solutions?
Thanks
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But why would you want to do that?
Why won't you just transfer all your important files over to the other OP6 and just start fresh. Restoring your apps doesn't take that much time and you'll probably waste more time on getting your original plan to work.
It could very well be that encryption causes issues when trying to restore a nandroid backup.

It's the little things like for example all my open chrome tabs, or the whatsapp images that will be messed up after restore. And so on. It's just so much easier to continue where I left off. No restoring of apps and settings and whatnot.

kerngehirn said:
It's the little things like for example all my open chrome tabs, or the whatsapp images that will be messed up after restore. And so on. It's just so much easier to continue where I left off. No restoring of apps and settings and whatnot.
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But you can just save and restore Chrome sessions as long your logged into the same account right?
And I don't know why you think WhatsApp images will get messed up? Sounds more like a bad experience you had which was probably caused by an unfortunate bug/glitch or an user error. The build-in backup feature of WhatsApp never failed on me and just makes a backup on your GDrive and restores it when you log in with your number again. Manually transferring the WhatsApp folder is an alternative that works fine too.
And what are you planning to do when you get a new device? You'll definitely have to manually restore things then so why can't you now, doesn't take a full day to do so and actually works without issues. But to sum it up, I think you are wasting time by trying to restore a nandroid backup on an other device than it's originally created on.
You also might want to look into Titanium Backup, Migrate or it's alternatives. You can use those two apps to backup apps and their data and possibly more and restore it on a fresh system.

kerngehirn said:
It's the little things like for example all my open chrome tabs, or the whatsapp images that will be messed up after restore. And so on. It's just so much easier to continue where I left off. No restoring of apps and settings and whatnot.
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There are different apps for that such as Migrate, OAndBackupX or Swift which can backup apps as they are now and you can then restore them back to another device without any issues (particularly Migrate)

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All this wiping, how do you people keep your data

i'm reading through all the posts for people updating to the new firmware and wiping away all their data without a care. how can you afford to do that so easily?
I have lots of data like SMS messages I need to keep around, applications that cant be downloaded anymore (such as hello aim beta, wifi tether), settings, etc.. that I just can't wipe my phone. how are you people keeping this data around?
I personally use apps to Sd card and to backup sms and such I use MyBackup Pro available on market for about $5. It works great. Go try it. You can even back up applications with it.
John5788 said:
i'm reading through all the posts for people updating to the new firmware and wiping away all their data without a care. how can you afford to do that so easily?
I have lots of data like SMS messages I need to keep around, applications that cant be downloaded anymore (such as hello aim beta, wifi tether), settings, etc.. that I just can't wipe my phone. how are you people keeping this data around?
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I usually will run a nandroid backup first then i can just flash it back without any trouble after the wipe.
I also have GSCRIPT on the phone and have a script that backs up all my apps to the SD and then I have a SCRIPT that will reinstall all my APPS when it is all said and done if I need it for those times that I am unable to backup first.
John5788 said:
i'm reading through all the posts for people updating to the new firmware and wiping away all their data without a care. how can you afford to do that so easily?
I have lots of data like SMS messages I need to keep around, applications that cant be downloaded anymore (such as hello aim beta, wifi tether), settings, etc.. that I just can't wipe my phone. how are you people keeping this data around?
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I always make a nandroid backup. As a matter of fact, I make a nandroid backup weekly or before I do anything drastic to my phone like delete all SMS or try something new. Nandroid backup process takes but 5 minutes. Most of the apps can be downloaded over again and most of SMS are of no importance. All my pics and audio and wallpapers are on SD, so that automatically gets moved.
If I ever need to reference to something, I just flash the nandroid backup, look up what I need and then flash back to the other nandroid backup etc. So far that is my game plan, but i've yet to do this as I've never really had the need to go back.
It is tedious process especially for the apps but I have kept a list and it isn't too bad.
there are other wifi tether programs that are probably better than what you had before.
anything and everything is out there apk wise, if you know where to look.
but, there are backup programs and since I don't use them (other than nandroid), hopefully someone can comment on them.
question, i can do a nandroid backup fine without any problems. i believe i am using jf1.42 recovery image, but lets say my phone bricks, whatever nandroid backed up for me, how do i install it back again? n00b question i know but ive searched around and havnt found that answer yet.
I haven't wiped my phone in over a month.
I use MyBackup Pro. Backs up all your Data, Apps, and settings. And, of course, I make a nandroid backup before I flash anything.
madunix said:
question, i can do a nandroid backup fine without any problems. i believe i am using jf1.42 recovery image, but lets say my phone bricks, whatever nandroid backed up for me, how do i install it back again? n00b question i know but ive searched around and havnt found that answer yet.
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Here's a quick and easy explanation: http://androidcommunity.com/forums/168953-post6.html
I've tried the Nandroid back up, but for the life of me I can't get ADB working on my computer. Is there a script to run it through recovery mode or through the terminal emulator?
Thanks
Hi Aim beta is still available in the market (Is it different from hello AIM beta?) and wifi tether for root users is still available at google code. If there was a program that I wanted that was no longer available I would just back it up to SD before wiping. For SMS I use SMS backup. That way SMS streams are available all the time in my gmail (not that I consider my SMS messages all that important)
Settings take me a little while to get back but usually if I am wiping to put on a new ROM my workflow will change a bit so redoing settings from scratch is not a big deal.
Given that contacts calendar and mail are synced with gmail, wiping is less a concern for me than it was with WM. Reloading apps takes a bit of time but it is not a major effort since most things are either on the market or on my SD.
...what everyone else said.
Also, I use fastboot on the computer side (Windows XP) to get Nandroid's backups back on my phone. This only works if you have the engineering bootloader, though (the thing with the three skateboarding androids). First, you'll have to copy "boot.img," "data.img," and "system.img" to whatever folder fastboot's in. Open up your command prompt. The command line you use is this:
cd *whatever directory fastboot's in*
fastboot flash system system.img
fastboot flash userdata data.img
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot reboot
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I use nandroid and mybackup pro.
Heres a question for the ages. If i do a nandroid backup on say...JF's 1.5ADP and then update to Haykuros image, after a wipe, would i have a problem if i was to fastboot flash my data.img file? Would it cause problems? I have yet to try it.
Does mybackup pro back up paid apps?
I dont really care about my txt i mean i got alot of txt but nothing to much to be save..I use appmanger to save my .apk apps to sd. and contacts are sync to google so yeah thats all i do.
If you have apps to sd it's as easy as following any apps to sd tutorial. All your apps that are already on your sd card will pop right back into your phone. In case anyone didn't know this. I tried and found out that it worked. So PM me for more details. I can't do much right now. But I can let you know what commands to type in adb shell or terminal emu.
Using the apps to sd, once I set the links up, everything is back, although my protected apps show up as the .apk name as with a gear icon. I have to uninstall then re-install those. But I am looking around for ways to remedy that. I think I found one post, but haven't wiped since I found it.

[Q] "adb restore" leaves stuff out

I am trying to restore files back to my reset OnePlus One using "adb restore <file>" but while the restore happens without error, some files/folders are not restored. I have checked the backup file and the files and folders are present in the backup file, yet adb restore does not restore them
My backup is created with this command:
adb backup -f backup.ab -apk -obb -shared -all -system
And I try to restore with this:
adb restore backup.ab
Especially in the /sdcard/Android/data are a lot of files and folders missing and apps are not getting restored to their working state.
How do I restore the backup properly? Do I have to push every single file/folder to the phone manually?
Never mind. I just noticed that the backup files did not care to backup the /sdcard/Android folder and I have lost all files.
Why is it so impossible to make a proper backup on Android?
I am so close to ditching android just because I cannot get a working backup/restore to work!
And no, my phone is not rooted as rooting erases my files. Chicken and egg problem. I really hate android here.
"adb restore" didn't restore any of my accounts! I am so very pissed about android right now. Such a "mature" platform and no working backup/restore.
Plenty of tools offering to make backup/restore, but the all require me to erase all data (root) making the backup moot. And those tools that do not require root cannot backup anything besides what "adb backup" offers to back up (which is more miss than hit).
I am really envious of Apple users here. They have perfect (so it seems) working backup and restore.
... and I cannot add the missing accounts because they are already created. So, none of my accounts were restored and even though all accounts are actually there, none of them can synchronize as they are not there.
And all this trouble just to fix non-working MMS which turned out not to work after a reset anyway. I hate really hate android. So f...... unreliable.
I seriously cannot recommend anyone to use adb backup/restore. This will totally mess up your phone. Copy files manually and write down all your accounts (type/username/password/all settings) create them manually afterwards. "adb restore" cannot restore accounts.
If everything is lost at this point might as well root now and use titanium backup or parcel in the future? Not sure if parcel can backup accounts, titanium backup can though
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ek69 said:
If everything is lost at this point might as well root now and use titanium backup or parcel in the future? Not sure if parcel can backup accounts, titanium backup can though
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Indeed
galmok said:
And no, my phone is not rooted as rooting erases my files. Chicken and egg problem. I really hate android here.
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Why didn't you just connect to your PC and copy your files across? Or at least research the phone before you bought it or started using it? If you unlock the bootloader when you receive the device the wiping that occurs during the unlocking process is a non-event.
There's no reason to "hate Android" because of this situation. There are several ways to make backups on an Android device, you just failed to unlock your device at the correct time. Just trying to put it into perspective a bit here.
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Why didn't you just connect to your PC and copy your files across? Or at least research the phone before you bought it or started using it? If you unlock the bootloader when you receive the device the wiping that occurs during the unlocking process is a non-event.
There's no reason to "hate Android" because of this situation. There are several ways to make backups on an Android device, you just failed to unlock your device at the correct time. Just trying to put it into perspective a bit here.
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I cannot copy everything to my pc. Accounts for instance cannot be copied. Same with system settings, Wi-Fi passwords and some apps do not survive the adb backup/restore (like Waze that enters a crash loop) and other apps just vanish. This system is not user friendly. There is no way I could make anyone I know accept this phone if they knew they couldn't back it up. They know nothing about rooting but they will not accept a non-working backup.
I at least tried (hard) to make a backup and restored it back and that was a horrible experience. I cannot help wondering why Google hasn't arranged android to have working backups. Apple has it and it seems near perfect compared to android.
galmok said:
I cannot copy everything to my pc. Accounts for instance cannot be copied. Same with system settings, Wi-Fi passwords and some apps do not survive the adb backup/restore (like Waze that enters a crash loop) and other apps just vanish. This system is not user friendly. There is no way I could make anyone I know accept this phone if they knew they couldn't back it up. They know nothing about rooting but they will not accept a non-working backup.
I at least tried (hard) to make a backup and restored it back and that was a horrible experience. I cannot help wondering why Google hasn't arranged android to have working backups. Apple has it and it seems near perfect compared to android.
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Google does have backups, in the settings menu. Most of the system settings are backed up (and even if they weren't it should only take a total of ten mins to set them up again). Apps are backed up and downloaded again on a fresh install. It all works perfectly if you know what you're doing.
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Google does have backups, in the settings menu. Most of the system settings are backed up (and even if they weren't it should only take a total of ten mins to set them up again). Apps are backed up and downloaded again on a fresh install. It all works perfectly if you know what you're doing.
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Except I have apps that are not on Google Play. I cannot backup my Wi-Fi passwords and am forced to let Google keep a copy. And there are so many settings that 10 minutes is far from enough to find them all and fix them. And the point is, I shouldn't have to. I should be able to make a backup, preferably compartmentalized, and restore the sections I want, if not all. And it should be 1 tool.
Also, following a reset, the phone will begin reinstalling apps from Google Play and what happens if I begin adb restore at the same time? I didn't want to find out and let it install. But when some games use 1.5GB of storage, that takes a long time. Would be much faster if I knew I could use adb restore.
Oh well, I will have to accept the horrible backup/restore solution for this phone, but I really am envious of the backup/restore for iOS devices.

Various troubles with my OnePlus 7pro (rooted) + questions about restoring Nandroid

Dear community, I am facing several troubles with my OP7pro which I think can be quite easily handled but my knowledge is just too little.
I am running OOS 10.0.2 with Renovate ICE, rooted with Magisk and on TWRP 3.3.1-70 - stock kernel and normally encrypted. I am facing various troubles that started after upgrading from 9.5.13 tot Android 10. I do not know if they are directly related. I do have Nandroids, BUT the phone is my daily driver, also for work, and a factory reset will just take too much time.
What are the troubles you ask?
- I am not able to enter the menu Buttons&Gestures/navigation/set up navigation bar. The screen blinks and I am back in the upper menu. If I press this menu again I get a "Settings stopped". This sucks, because I want to set up my on-screen buttons
- I used to use Plus Beat in combination with RICE on Android 9. Worked perfect. Whatever I set up, Plus Beat just does not work. That sucks big time.
- I am not able to set on screen buttons to for example switch between recent apps or get anything else but horizontal recents (which is slow and to me sucks). QuickSwitch via Magisk doesn't bring anything.
NOW TO THE QUESTIONS:
I GUESS (! but am not sure!) that a factoryreset could and should solve these problems. I could and would do that, but, I need to be up and running and have my settings back quickly. Internal memory (root) I could copy to PC and paste back afterwords. But is there some way I could put my settings (in the menu) and all my apps (250+) back via Nandroid data?
I have the following things backed up in TWRP:
- Boot
- System Image
- Vendor Image
- Data
- Modem
- EFS
If I do a complete new factory set-up (for example via Maurefranio's tool), to refresh my system (I guess the failure is in there), can I put back other parts of the Nandroid to have all the rest back? Also in the menu-settings, color-setting etc. etc. etc.?
I know it sounds rooky, but I hope someone takes time to help me a little. I do use Titaninium etc. but I can't spend hours and hours on a recovery. In that case I'd probably decide to keep using the OP7pro as I do, but it's frustrating that RICE and Plus Beat don't work fully and some other errors. The usability to me is 4 out of 10 - where in Android 9 it was surely 9 out of 10.
Greetings,
existenz
Are you running a substratum theme? That could be the settings issue. But that's about all I could help with. Never restored anything using twrp on this phone. Most I've done is backup my apps with swift backup, factory reset, or MSM tool, and restore my apps.
How quickly do you need your phone up and running? You could backup with swift backup, factory reset and only restore what you need for now then do the rest when you have time.
@GeekMcLeod: no, Substratum not even installed. All this trouble started after the regular update to Android 10.
But more my question is: IF I flash the whole phone back to factory setting (not a reset because the errors might still be there so a complete whipe and re-flash) - which part of Nandroid is usefull to get SETTINGS and APPS back? Just that. The internal memory I can copy and paste back.
I really hope someone can give me a quick instruction of how this works. Much appreciated!
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@GeekMcLeod: no, Substratum not even installed. All this trouble started after the regular update to Android 10.
But more my question is: IF I flash the whole phone back to factory setting (not a reset because the errors might still be there so a complete whipe and re-flash) - which part of Nandroid is usefull to get SETTINGS and APPS back? Just that. The internal memory I can copy and paste back.
I really hope someone can give me a quick instruction of how this works. Much appreciated!
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In that case, I would just use swift backup, backup to your device. Transfer SD card contents to your computer, factory reset. Transfer SD card files back. Swift backup can backup all apps and data. I believe that would work for what you want.
I, however, do not know what parts of the nandroid do what as I usually just don't bother with it.
GeekMcLeod: appreciate your advise, but Nandroid is there for a reason.
Is there anyone who can please help me what to do best? I mean, one of those Nandroid-partitions holds the clue, right?
I am also facing overnight Batterydrain of about 30% (from 80 to 50 in about 7-7,5 hours).
No Nandroid specialists in the house?
You need to wipe your data. Use Swift to backup apps, messages and call logs. Google will do it's best to restore settings upon setup. Your problem is almost guaranteed to be in data. If you need that data, I would recommend going back to whatever version of pie you were on before. Swift won't restore app permissions, as far as I know so be sure to double check if you restore apps with Swift.

Restoring Google Authenticator after stock to LineageOS 19.1

Hi,
I've just upgraded from latest OnePlus stock ROM of Android 11 to LineageOS 19.1. I've made backups before formatting everything, a full NANDroid with TWRP, one using the Migrate app, one with Oandbackupx of all apps. Also Google's way, but that doesn't back this app up, which seems to be quiet bad...
After trying to restore from all the mentioned sources, Google Authenticator can't seem to be restored. It always ends up empty. Is there a a specific protection for that data? I've similar issue with Dropbox as an example, it asks me to login after a restore. Whereas other apps preserved their logins...
Would be great to restore it, as I had like 30+ MFA codes added. Any suggestions?
Thank you!
There is only one way to transfer codes to another phone in the case of Google Authenticator.
Perhaps there is an analogy with the Dropbox access application. You'll have to check it out for yourself.
Hi,
Ok, thanks for the info. This is just sad to hear.
Going back to the original system with restoring the NANDroid backup go get this code might not work either?
Thank you.
I can't seem to find a solution. So I'm switching to Authy and in the same time I'll add it to KeePassXC, which can also do it... This can't happen again, I have to reset 2FA on 30+ sites
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I can't seem to find a solution. So I'm switching to Authy and in the same time I'll add it to KeePassXC, which can also do it... This can't happen again, I have to reset 2FA on 30+ sites
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whats stopping you from flashing your nandroid backup back to regain access? Isn't the whole beauty of nandroid backups the fact that they're more like system snapshots?
We currently are running into the same problem (although different phone, different situation but same effective result. We already came from a custom rom but forgot to get the transfer QRs from the Auth app.)
Okay so let me update you on my findings. If you have a back-up of Authenticators data (made before the update Google pushed out earlier this month*) you could fish out the database file (called database, without any file extention, stored in the folder database (full path to the file in a TWRP backup would be /data/data/com.google.android.apps.authenticator2/database/database)) and just read out the table accounts using any sqlite3 tool. This table has a column called secrets which contains the keys. There even is a free (linux/cygwin) set of scripts that can generate QRs for you if you do not feel like punching in the keys manually.
Theoretically placing the database file into the database folder of the app (overwriting the empty one) or using something like Titanium Backup should work too if you have not updated the app on your old device/installation yet.
*With the last update Google started encrypting the secrets before writing them to the database and nobody has been able to find the key which they used for that (yet)
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whats stopping you from flashing your nandroid backup back to regain access? Isn't the whole beauty of nandroid backups the fact that they're more like system snapshots?
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I'm now on Android 12, and since TWRP doesn't support the new encryption, I can't just take a NANDroid backup of the current one and flash the old one in (without losing much of the current one, which I don't want). Unless there's something new around this, that won't be too much of a help.
I can think of restoring the NANDroid backup to an Android emulator, but it doesn't seem to be possible:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/k7v4c/_/c2i5l9g
(unless it has changed in the last 11 years).
screen said:
Okay so let me update you on my findings. If you have a back-up of Authenticators data (made before the update Google pushed out earlier this month*) you could fish out the database file (called database, without any file extention, stored in the folder database (full path to the file in a TWRP backup would be /data/data/com.google.android.apps.authenticator2/database/database)) and just read out the table accounts using any sqlite3 tool. This table has a column called secrets which contains the keys. There even is a free (linux/cygwin) set of scripts that can generate QRs for you if you do not feel like punching in the keys manually.
Theoretically placing the database file into the database folder of the app (overwriting the empty one) or using something like Titanium Backup should work too if you have not updated the app on your old device/installation yet.
*With the last update Google started encrypting the secrets before writing them to the database and nobody has been able to find the key which they used for that (yet)
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Yeah, I already checked that file, it's encrypted in there, I was using the latest versions of the apps when I made the backup, didn't think that won't be enough. The weird thing is that restoring it won't restore the data. So it must use some device related key or it just detects that it's a different device... Annoying, backing it up doesn't actually do any good...
Do you have any other idea? Thank you!
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I'm now on Android 12, and since TWRP doesn't support the new encryption, I can't just take a NANDroid backup of the current one and flash the old one in (without losing much of the current one, which I don't want). Unless there's something new around this, that won't be too much of a help.
I can think of restoring the NANDroid backup to an Android emulator, but it doesn't seem to be possible:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/k7v4c/_/c2i5l9g
(unless it has changed in the last 11 years).
Yeah, I already checked that file, it's encrypted in there, I was using the latest versions of the apps when I made the backup, didn't think that won't be enough. The weird thing is that restoring it won't restore the data. So it must use some device related key or it just detects that it's a different device... Annoying, backing it up doesn't actually do any good...
Do you have any other idea? Thank you!
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Well, if Authenticator doesn't pick up on databases from other installations that would sugest that Authenticator has a way to link a database to an Authenticator installation. Meaning, the only way you could possibly have a chance to retrieve the data is to restore your nandroid backup (and use the Authenticator in there to make your transfer QR codes), count your losses as far as your current installation goes and reinstall a 12 rom from scratch. (Or find a way to get the key used to encrypt the secrets, if you have the key you just decrypt them and punch them in manually (or use the earlier scripts for QR code gen))
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Well, if Authenticator doesn't pick up on databases from other installations that would sugest that Authenticator has a way to link a database to an Authenticator installation. Meaning, the only way you could possibly have a chance to retrieve the data is to restore your nandroid backup (and use the Authenticator in there to make your transfer QR codes), count your losses as far as your current installation goes and reinstall a 12 rom from scratch. (Or find a way to get the key used to encrypt the secrets, if you have the key you just decrypt them and punch them in manually (or use the earlier scripts for QR code gen))
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It's sad that nobody seems to have the keys to decrypt the secrets.
Wish I had a nandroid backup or just an earlier backup of the app's data before they started to encrypt their db.
I'm losing many accounts here.
shokolatha said:
It's sad that nobody seems to have the keys to decrypt the secrets.
Wish I had a nandroid backup or just an earlier backup of the app's data before they started to encrypt their db.
I'm losing many accounts here.
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To prevent exactly this from happening (again) I've switched to Authy like @antivirtel suggested earlier. Authy saves your secrets to your authy-account, and a big plus they actually have a desktop program too so I don't have to use my phone per se (I often just leave it home not needing my phone _untill_ I need 2FA somewhere lol). I'm sorry for your losses but at least take this as a learning oppertunity and switch to an 2FA/MFA application that does cloud
Exporting a QR code from google authenticator then taking a screenshot\pic of it and saving that for future phones has served me well so far..
I think if I read correctly, TWRP just released their new version with Android 12 decryption support, so I can go and extract it now from my nandroid backup. https://twrp.me/site/update/2022/10/10/3.7.0-released.html - did someone test this?
BTW, I also saved the 2FA codes to KeePassXC/DX, works brilliantly there too, has nice integration both on desktop and Android.
Hi,
I've finally found a way to save my current ROM and go back to my old backup of stock A11 (restore a NANDroid backup), and try to access G Auth, but it was empty straight away. Tried a restore with Neo Backup, no change. Unfortunately it seems like it's all gone. At least I have the DB file, it has a list of accounts, so I at least know where I had MFA...
Unless someone else has a clue how to restore it, someone?
Given it's finally getting cloud sync feature, Google should release a way to restore it. Google please do!
Thanks!

Question Root without phone resetting? Or backup app+it's data via adb or similar?

So I'm changing phones, but there's one app which I would have to backup including it's data. If I'd be rooted I could use Titanium Backup, unfortunately I'm not rooted.
Is there a way to root without wiping the phone or is there another way to backup the apps data (and restore) via adb or something else?
Google backup and restore is pretty good, it should restore your apps
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Google backup and restore is pretty good, it should restore your apps
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But I need the actual data of the app, does that come with Google backup and restore?
App in question is WhatsApp and I need the app including the registration etc on the new phone. Titanium backup can do that, but obviously needs root
Whatsapp has its own backup and restore feature I use it all the time. It will restore all your data, chats etc but you have to log in first
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Whatsapp has its own backup and restore feature I use it all the time. It will restore all your data, chats etc but you have to log in first
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I know... that's exactly the issue though. I'm asking for a way to backup 1:1 so I don't need to do the login. Which Titanium Backup can do since it's does it with all the apps data, but that obviously needs root which I don't have. Hence I'm asking for help here.
I found this which doesn't need root not sure how deep it goes though
How to fully backup and restore your Android device without root
One of Android’s little-known tricks is its built-in backup and restore process that allows users to save their private data...
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beanbean50 said:
I found this which doesn't need root not sure how deep it goes though
How to fully backup and restore your Android device without root
One of Android’s little-known tricks is its built-in backup and restore process that allows users to save their private data...
9to5google.com
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For that I'd need a way to remove everything from the backup besides WhatsApp though. As that does a backup and restore of everything, all apps, all file system etc IIRC
Trying adb backup now, there seems to be a java tool that allows you to open the backup file on pc
GitHub - nelenkov/android-backup-extractor: Android backup extractor
Android backup extractor. Contribute to nelenkov/android-backup-extractor development by creating an account on GitHub.
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M4-NOOB said:
For that I'd need a way to remove everything from the backup besides WhatsApp though. As that does a backup and restore of everything, all apps, all file system etc IIRC
Trying adb backup now, there seems to be a java tool that allows you to open the backup file on pc
GitHub - nelenkov/android-backup-extractor: Android backup extractor
Android backup extractor. Contribute to nelenkov/android-backup-extractor development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Unfortunately WhatsApp wasn't included in the full backup for some reason
I just tried an app on play store called Swift Backup and it worked!
I made a backup of just whatsapp then deleted it and it restored it without signing in
beanbean50 said:
I just tried an app on play store called Swift Backup and it worked!
I made a backup of just whatsapp then deleted it and it restored it without signing in
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Is your phone rooted? Because all it does for me is apk backup, no data
hmm.. yep I'm rooted
why can't you sign in to whatsapp on your new phone
beanbean50 said:
hmm.. yep I'm rooted
why can't you sign in to whatsapp on your new phone
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I'm living in the UK for a few more months, but still use my German number on WhatsApp. The number has since been retired so I can't get SMS/calls on that one anymore, so I'm unable to sign in.
I wish I would've rooted the phone....
M4-NOOB said:
So I'm changing phones, but there's one app which I would have to backup including it's data. If I'd be rooted I could use Titanium Backup, unfortunately I'm not rooted.
Is there a way to root without wiping the phone or is there another way to backup the apps data (and restore) via adb or something else?
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Is that the Samsung moving phones thingy? Does that move apps including it's data so you don't have to set them up again?
I usually avoid the moving data from phone to phone during setup, because I take setting up a new phone as an opportunity to clean up data/apps. So I only reinstall those I actually need
EDIT: Just tried it, sadly not:
https://imgur.com/gyCtmLs
M4-NOOB said:
Is that the Samsung moving phones thingy? Does that move apps including it's data so you don't have to set them up again?
I usually avoid the moving data from phone to phone during setup, because I take setting up a new phone as an opportunity to clean up data/apps. So I only reinstall those I actually need
EDIT: Just tried it, sadly not:
https://imgur.com/gyCtmLs
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Backup with ur whatsapp. Its too easy. Anyway, in case u cant do it, think u have to reset only single app (whatsapp - like ur screenshot), so u cant?
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Backup with ur whatsapp. Its too easy. Anyway, in case u cant do it, think u have to reset only single app (whatsapp - like ur screenshot), so u cant?
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As mentioned in here, using the backup inside WhatsApp still needs you to sign in again on the new phone which isn't my goal. I want to backup ALL of WhatsApp including the sign in, so I can just move it to the new phone without logging in.
M4-NOOB said:
As mentioned in here, using the backup inside WhatsApp still needs you to sign in again on the new phone which isn't my goal. I want to backup ALL of WhatsApp including the sign in, so I can just move it to the new phone without logging in.
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Then u have 2 options:
1 - Root your phone.
2 - Ask dev of Whatsapp to do something for u (for all too.lol). But i think it'll never come true. Its too risky for any apps.
tiennhu89 said:
Then u have 2 options:
1 - Root your phone.
2 - Ask dev of Whatsapp to do something for u (for all too.lol). But i think it'll never come true. Its too risky for any apps.
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Yeah thanks, I know it's possible with root which I don't have and doing it wipes the phone which makes my whole reason for this pointless.
This whole post was just asking if there's any way to do it without root. If you can't help don't reply?

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