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Samsung's Galaxy S22 Series Is a Low-Signal Beast
If you frequently have trouble staying connected to your carrier's network, the Samsung Galaxy S22 series might be the solution. In testing, Samsung's Galaxy S22+ and S22 Ultra phones significantly outperformed their predecessors (as well Google's latest Pixel phones) in low-signal situations.
Ohhh nice. I like this. A lot of my cell usage is in poor service environments.
you should add that it is about the Snapdragon version for a specific chip that is integrated by Qualcomm; Samsung had probably other priorities for Exynos
ionutdicu said:
you should add that it is about the Snapdragon version for a specific chip that is integrated by Qualcomm; Samsung had probably other priorities for Exynos
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Hope we get atleast a bit better battery life... cause the cpu seems worse
Actually just got mine delivered today (exynos cause I'm in Italy) and I am having issues with mobile data, i had to connect to wifi 3-4 times today because it doesn't work on mobile data
Masterkill88 said:
Actually just got mine delivered today (exynos cause I'm in Italy) and I am having issues with mobile data, i had to connect to wifi 3-4 times today because it doesn't work on mobile data
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I think the software is beta like...cause the phone will release in 10 days and many reviewers have stutter bugs and something like that. Do you have a pocture of yout phone? Which colour?
It's the phantom black version, 12/256 exynos version (I'm in Italy).
I was thinking the same thing, I also have this glitch where the screen turns off when you're browsing the apps (just like you would double tap on the home screen to lock the phone) and the other screen glitch with the purple pixelated stripe popping up when touching the fingerprint scanner, I think I fixed that one by using a normal photo as the lock screen wallpaper instead of the animated wallpaper though
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It's the phantom black version, 12/256 exynos version (I'm in Italy).
I was thinking the same thing, I also have this glitch where the screen turns off when you're browsing the apps (just like you would double tap on the home screen to lock the phone) and the other screen glitch with the purple pixelated stripe popping up when touching the fingerprint scanner, I think I fixed that one by using a normal photo as the lock screen wallpaper instead of the animated wallpaper though
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Thats strange mate...hope Samsung grt this fixed on release also some new gpu drivers...the soc esprcially the gpu is bad now...
Considering how some of these posts are from people with less than 10 posts, I wouldn't take them too seriously. As we all know, trolls love to bash on Samsung.
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Considering how some of these posts are from people with less than 10 posts, I wouldn't take them too seriously. As we all know, trolls love to bash on Samsung.
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Yes trolls are always bad but ive seen videos on youtubr that proves zhat the phone is a bit laggy...also speedtest whre s21 ultra is a good time faster...
Goku1992 said:
Yes trolls are always bad but ive seen videos on youtubr that proves zhat the phone is a bit laggy...also speedtest whre s21 ultra is a good time faster...
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I'll reserve my judgement until it gets here around the 25th. Besides, these are brand spanking new phones so will definitely need a bunch of tweaks and updates.
I've only watched a few Youtube reviews but maybe it's the ones I watch. They all loved the phone.
Corwinder said:
I've only watched a few Youtube reviews but maybe it's the ones I watch. They all loved the phone.
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Yes its a beautiful phone aside for the stutter... also most of them had snapdragon which seems to run better since now
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Yes trolls are always bad but ive seen videos on youtubr that proves zhat the phone is a bit laggy...also speedtest whre s21 ultra is a good time faster...
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I can vouch for this as I have seen similar reports and tests on the Exynos version being slow and battery life less than the s21U. So this isn't Trolls we're dealing with it's actually happening. So don't dismiss people so easily just because they are new and only have a few posts.
The article didn't mention the smaller s22 explicitly. Hopefully it has the same connection qualities.
Notice that they're referring to the US Snapdragon model, which uses an all new X65 modem. It's unclear how the Exynos model performs. If the Exynos modem is anything like the modem in the Pixel 6 Pro, reception might just be good instead of great.
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Notice that they're referring to the US Snapdragon model, which uses an all new X65 modem. It's unclear how the Exynos model performs. If the Exynos modem is anything like the modem in the Pixel 6 Pro, reception might just be good instead of great.
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Hope this isnt the case...my oneplus 7t pro had better reception than my s21 ultra and hoped with the s22u this will change :/
Early opinion of the Exynos S22 Ultra is that mobile data throughput is not significantly different to Exynos S21 series and Pixel 6 Pro modem. It may be slightly more balanced in low signal areas though - one bar performance is a bit more 'consistent'.
A new modem was my main reason for upgrading. I'll testing performance against a S10+ tomorrow, which will be interesting. The S10+ outperforms the Exynos S21 Ultra with 4G, consistently.
So I've got a Snapdragon S22U/512GB, and it def seems like the phone performs better in low service environments vs my old Note 10+ 5G
So easy to lie online
The advantages so far:
+5G reception and C-Band are noticeable improvements (Data speeds are 2-3x faster than the Note20 Ultra)
+Ability to run screen at full resolution and 120 Hz
+AMOLED uniformity MUCH better
+Speaker clarity is much improved
+The S-Pen glides across the screen much more smoothly.
+Minor, but the image stabilization on the camera doesn't rattle like the Note20 Ultra's did.
+Phone navigation is slightly faster and more responsive, though the Note20 Ultra was plenty fast.
Overall, it is a refinement of an already great phone. It fixes many of my gripes with its predecessor. The fact that the phone is heavier and is missing a MicroSD slot will take some adjustment but 512 GB should be plenty. If you're on Verizon and in a 5G C-Band area, you'll finally see a speed boost. I'll update if I find anything else worth noting.
Yes that 21grams actually makes a difference when your holding it, I didn't think much of it when looking at the specs before buying. But when holding the phone that weight is much more noticeable.
Overall i don't think its much of a upgrade, Exynos version here and i have noticed a horrible lag in comparison to my Note 20 Ultra.
I believe this is a OS issue and hoping an update will resolve it (It was present on my Note 20 ultra prior to the last OS update), but when first launching a game and playing for the first couple of minutes its laggy and eventually settles itself with some odd occasional stuttering throughout
This also happens in performance mode enabled on High, the only thing that is frustrating me at the moment.
Makes playing Rocket League Side swipe impossible
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Yes that 21grams actually makes a difference when your holding it, I didn't think much of it when looking at the specs before buying. But when holding the phone that weight is much more noticeable.
Overall i don't think its much of a upgrade, Exynos version here and i have noticed a horrible lag in comparison to my Note 20 Ultra.
I believe this is a OS issue and hoping an update will resolve it (It was present on my Note 20 ultra prior to the last OS update), but when first launching a game and playing for the first couple of minutes its laggy and eventually settles itself with some odd occasional stuttering throughout
This also happens in performance mode enabled on High, the only thing that is frustrating me at the moment.
Makes playing Rocket League Side swipe impossible
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Don't mean to sound rude when I say this but you have a exynos and he has a snapdragon. You can't really compare them right now. He doesn't have the stuttering and laggy issues that you have. So when you say not much of an upgrade he is not coming from the same space that you are. Hopefully the day one patch will get rid of your stuttering and lagging and then maybe you will say it is an upgrade also.
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Don't mean to sound rude when I say this but you have a exynos and he has a snapdragon. You can't really compare them right now. He doesn't have the stuttering and laggy issues that you have. So when you say not much of an upgrade he is not coming from the same space that you are. Hopefully the day one patch will get rid of your stuttering and lagging and then maybe you will say it is an upgrade also.
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Not sure what you are on about buddy! I was talking about my personal experience.
"Overall I don't think"
I have the Note 20 ultra and the S22 Ultra. Freedom of speech of my own person experience.
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Not sure what you are on about buddy! I was talking about my personal experience.
"Overall I don't think"
I have the Note 20 ultra and the S22 Ultra. Freedom of speech of my own person experience.
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I guess you missed the beginning part where I said I wasn't trying to be rude and you took it as me being rude lol.
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I guess you missed the beginning part where I said I wasn't trying to be rude and you took it as me being rude lol.
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I didn't think you where being rude, i just didn't get the point of your post, A topic was created comparing both devices, So i shared my own opinion on the two devices, as the S22 Ultra was the upgrade from my Note 20 Ultra. This is what this place is about, Discussions.
I was aware their device was Snapdragon given they are on the Verizon network, Mine is not and talking about the experience of the Exynos variant.
The camera especially with zoom is a huge difference, and if people wait another generation the trade on value on the n20u will be less than half of the current $600 trade in.
So you can spend that money now or spend that same money a tear from now.
Video editing also has crop and rotate correction now, image erase has both shadow and reflection removal, the more I'm exploring the phone the more improvements I'm finding.
My only nit right now is actually the improved s pen... it now has a grippy texture, so sliding it on and out isn't as smooth as the n20u.
my S22 Ultra compared to my Note 20U, I`m glad I did the trade in and up graded for the unlock version, the camera Zoom is crazy better than the Note 20U and I like the heavier weight reminds me of my S21 ultra which felt like a premium phone, for me everything works great and no issues for me.
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The advantages so far:
+5G reception and C-Band are noticeable improvements (Data speeds are 2-3x faster than the Note20 Ultra)
+Ability to run screen at full resolution and 120 Hz
+AMOLED uniformity MUCH better
+Speaker clarity is much improved
+The S-Pen glides across the screen much more smoothly.
+Minor, but the image stabilization on the camera doesn't rattle like the Note20 Ultra's did.
+Phone navigation is slightly faster and more responsive, though the Note20 Ultra was plenty fast.
Overall, it is a refinement of an already great phone. It fixes many of my gripes with its predecessor. The fact that the phone is heavier and is missing a MicroSD slot will take some adjustment but 512 GB should be plenty. If you're on Verizon and in a 5G C-Band area, you'll finally see a speed boost. I'll update if I find anything else worth noting.
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On your N22 Ultra, when connected to the C Band, are you seeing the 5G UW icon or just 5G?
On the Verizon variant, I see 5G UW. No idea what an unlocked model would show.
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On the Verizon variant, I see 5G UW. No idea what an unlocked model would show.
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Cool, I appreciate the insight! Looking forward to getting mine setup at some point today.
hey guys!
i just bought my phone in israel and for the first time we have the snapdragon version
but i like high brightness so i put the extra brightness on
but the phone become very hot for regular use
my question is the heat is because the extra brightness ?
or the snapdragon this year gets alot hot then the exynoss
thx!!!
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hey guys!
i just bought my phone in israel and for the first time we have the snapdragon version
but i like high brightness so i put the extra brightness on
but the phone become very hot for regular use
my question is the heat is because the extra brightness ?
or the snapdragon this year gets alot hot then the exynoss
thx!!!
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Max brightness is bad for the mobile in many regards. Problem 1 is burn in, problem 2 is high battery usage, problem 3 is heat. The snapdragon alone gets very hot, plus full brightness makes a hot mobile. Try to use adaptive brightness for better battery life and better burn in protection.
And consider a Spigen Cryo Armor for better heat dissipation.
Spigen Cryo Armor
nosferatu123 said:
hey guys!
i just bought my phone in israel and for the first time we have the snapdragon version
but i like high brightness so i put the extra brightness on
but the phone become very hot for regular use
my question is the heat is because the extra brightness ?
or the snapdragon this year gets alot hot then the exynoss
thx!!!
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Hi nosferatu123
previously with the 888 variant headt was an issue but after some software updates heat issues fixed.
I consider to purchase this variant as snapdragon always get better performance than eksynos,
Your variant is S908E/DS?
Do you have dual sim and esim support like eksynos S908B/DS ?
Can you tell me if Greek language is included with fully supported Greek menu (not just added not in all apps after)
thanks
regards
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Hi nosferatu123
previously with the 888 variant headt was an issue but after some software updates heat issues fixed.
I consider to purchase this variant as snapdragon always get better performance than eksynos,
Your variant is S908E/DS?
Do you have dual sim and esim support like eksynos S908B/DS ?
Can you tell me if Greek language is included with fully supported Greek menu (not just added not in all apps after)
thanks
regards
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I have to disagree with the claim that the SD888 issue fixed with software updates. Over a year later, my S21U SD888 is literally always running warm - ranges from 34-39C while using it for literally anything - phone calls, reading text, IG, YouTube, browsing, etc. The only way to keep my S21U not warm is by not using it at all. Sucks that Samsung is just ignoring this.
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I have to disagree with the claim that the SD888 issue fixed with software updates. Over a year later, my S21U SD888 is literally always running warm - ranges from 34-39C while using it for literally anything - phone calls, reading text, IG, YouTube, browsing, etc. The only way to keep my S21U not warm is by not using it at all. Sucks that Samsung is just ignoring this.
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I can confirm my s21 ultra also suffers from heat issues. Tested it by recording in 4k and 8k, got the dreaded phone is hot message after only 5 mins in.
This is with all updates, it still has issues.
I know, I know, there are already other threads but this phone deserves them all: worst phone I've ever had in 13 years og Android devices.
So many micro-lags that make this phone un-usable: my 4 year old Pixel 4 runs better.
It's not a matter of speed or or power, it's a micro-lag problem that's so annoying and frustrating...
When on charge o connected to Android Auto things are even worst!!!
What specs S22U?
Specs? It's the Exynos model as per Subject.
8mb or 12mb ram etc specs
my s22 ultra 12/512 is perfect no lag (micro?) 50/55 hours battery no disconnection and is an italian exynos
most people with problems use apps with terrible use of background
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So many micro-lags that make this phone un-usable: my 4 year old Pixel 4 runs better.
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Could you describe in which apps you see those micro-lags and is it at playbacks or scrolling or whatever?
And if you have the 8/128GB or an 12/256+GB version would be interesting.
I have the 8/128 version.
Lags are everywhere, not in a specific app.
- Open Chrome, click on search bar and keyboard takes that little longer to show up
- Open contact app, click on a contact to start call and callscreen takes that little longer to show up
- swiping left or up from edges is a trial and error
According to many articles it's GPU throttling...
Oh and keyboard is impossible to use, toomany typos due to wrong key...
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I have the 8/128 version.
Lags are everywhere, not in a specific app.
- Open Chrome, click on search bar and keyboard takes that little longer to show up
- Open contact app, click on a contact to start call and callscreen takes that little longer to show up
- swiping left or up from edges is a trial and error
According to many articles it's GPU throttling...
Oh and keyboard is impossible to use, toomany typos due to wrong key...
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The 12/512 is pretty usable and not as bad as that at all but it is a bit stuttery and laggy Tbh it has similar performance to the P6P I had.
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I have the 8/128 version.
Lags are everywhere, not in a specific app.
- Open Chrome, click on search bar and keyboard takes that little longer to show up
- Open contact app, click on a contact to start call and callscreen takes that little longer to show up
- swiping left or up from edges is a trial and error
According to many articles it's GPU throttling...
Oh and keyboard is impossible to use, toomany typos due to wrong key...
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It seems the 8GB/128GB models (both Exynos and SD) are having these problems. Except for the keyboard issue. I am having some of the same issues on my S22 Ultra (12GB/512GB SD) and Tab S7. Which is weird because I use Swiftkey not the default Samsung keyboard.
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I have the 8/128 version.
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Like gernerttl wrote, the lags are mentioned more often for that versions.
Whyever, because the standard stuff you mentioned should not need more than 8 GB RAM.
thegios said:
- Open Chrome, click on search bar and keyboard takes that little longer to show up
- Open contact app, click on a contact to start call and callscreen takes that little longer to show up
- swiping left or up from edges is a trial and error
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Maybe I am less sensible regarding this or my 12 GB variant does not have these issues.
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Oh and keyboard is impossible to use, toomany typos due to wrong key...
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This I know, but it is related to my typing skills.
8gb Exynos UK version, no lag here apart from the odd lag on Twitter, the UI is buttery smooth
matty100147 said:
8gb Exynos UK version, no lag here apart from the odd lag on Twitter, the UI is buttery smooth
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I think that's a Twitter app issue. I have the 12GB/512GB SD model and I get a slight lag using the Twitter app.
12/256Gb UK model here, no problems at all with lag - cannot fault the phone tbh
Mine (exynos 12/256) unfortunetly too have sometimes lags and sometimes working very good- it's just lottery. For example yesterday after making only few photos phone just freezing for almost 1 min when i tryied exit from app.
I like this phone but software is all the time unstable. My almost 2 year fold 2 running smooth and stable all the time. Even my previous Note 9 running without similar unstable behavior via 2 years.
So i waiting for next and maybe next update for i hope more stable working.
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It seems the 8GB/128GB models (both Exynos and SD) are having these problems. Except for the keyboard issue. I am having some of the same issues on my S22 Ultra (12GB/512GB SD) and Tab S7. Which is weird because I use Swiftkey not the default Samsung keyboard.
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Welcome to the club!
no, also the 12/256 has micro lag issue and it's really annoying...When I'm entering android auto I have a lot of lag...Also on Snapchat, it's really annoying for a 1200 euro device to have this issues
robi101012981 said:
no, also the 12/256 has micro lag issue and it's really annoying...When I'm entering android auto I have a lot of lag...Also on Snapchat, it's really annoying for a 1200 euro device to have this issues
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I can confirm Android Auto.
Also J have read articles proving that tegardlwss of ram/rom the exynos version suffers stuttering and microlags missing on Snapdragon version.
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I can confirm Android Auto.
Also J have read articles proving that tegardlwss of ram/rom the exynos version suffers stuttering and microlags missing on Snapdragon version.
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The Snapdragon variant is no sweetheart.
It may have unsolvable chipset hardware issues.
For a 4um form factor chipset it's not doing so well with efficiency to the point where Samsung initially used throttle limiting by default because of thermal issues. The chipset is well heat piped/sinked in the S22U so that's not the cause.
blackhawk said:
The Snapdragon variant is no sweetheart.
It may have unsolvable chipset hardware issues.
For a 4um form factor chipset it's not doing so well with efficiency to the point where Samsung initially used throttle limiting by default because of thermal issues. The chipset is well heat piped/sinked in the S22U so that's not the cause.
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Same problem on Xiaomi 12 Pro: I work with Xiaomi for device acceptance in H3G markets, and we got some delays on 12 Pro acceptance due to thermal issues, yet Snapdragon runs more smoother than exynos. The Xiaomi 12 Pro with snapdragon runs smooth and fast compared to s22u with exynos, trust me... (and Xiaomi has its sw bugs, yet runs better)
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Same problem on Xiaomi 12 Pro: I work with Xiaomi for device acceptance in H3G markets, and we got some delays on 12 Pro acceptance due to thermal issues, yet Snapdragon runs more smoother than exynos. The Xiaomi 12 Pro with snapdragon runs smooth and fast compared to s22u with exynos, trust me... (and Xiaomi has its sw bugs, yet runs better)
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It maybe in part because of other chipsets, peripherals or circuitry differences. Too big of a rush and not enough prototype testing...
Samsung is surrounded by their own dropped balls at this point. Almost 3 years of dud flagships now... I'm not impressed.
s22 Ultra will lag ever be fixed ?
I want to buy this Phone but in my Store it lagged so much.
Is there hope for one UI 5 or is this a wishful thinking ? Why is Pixel 6 Pro much more smooth with a weaker CPU
Pixel running smoother because have a lot of better optimalization and pure, light OS compare to OneUi.
Admittedly Tensor in Pixel 6 is sibling to exynos 2100 which is maybe only little slover i tests but have overall better working culture.
I got my S22 Ultra 256GB last week (United States version).
No lag.
I was under the impression it was the 512GB version with the lag...
Funny, I got rid of my Pixel 6 Pro and went with an S22 Ultra because the Pixel was terrible with micro stuttering and lag, not to mention network disconnection problems. With the S22U that all went away. There is some lag, but not nearly as bad as with the Pixel.
You should say what version (SD or Exynos) you experienced with the lag since I'm using SD and no lag at all from day one.
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I got my S22 Ultra 256GB last week (United States version).
No lag.
I was under the impression it was the 512GB version with the lag...
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I have the 512GB SD US version and don't notice any lag. Smooth as butter here.
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I have the 512GB SD US version and don't notice any lag. Smooth as butter here.
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Same; 512GB SD, zero lag.
I believe it was the 8GB ram/128GB storage config that people were complaining about in that department.
Yea I am from Germany. Only able to get Exynos
I have the Exynos S22 Ultra 512GB and afer half a day of usage it's lagging. If I keep using it without restaring (like I do now), I am barely able to type....I press the letters blindly and see after that what I wrote.
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I have the Exynos S22 Ultra 512GB and afer half a day of usage it's lagging. If I keep using it without restaring (like I do now), I am barely able to type....I press the letters blindly and see after that what I wrote.
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You mean that it lags in every action, every app ?
Like, does the keyboard have that issue on every app or only specific ones ?
Yes, it's lagging everywhwre with every app. Like I type (press the letters) and the letter popup shows after a while, eventually several popups shows at once. Sometimes I press a menu or menu item and I wait till it triggers the action. Using task manager to switch to another/previous app is also lagging. As I say....it is everywhere.
A restart solves it till it appears again.
hamad138 said:
Yea I am from Germany. Only able to get Exynos
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Just wait for the S23 Ultra release. No more Exynos, no more problems.
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Same; 512GB SD, zero lag.
I believe it was the 8GB ram/128GB storage config that people were complaining about in that department.
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I have the 128/8GB version and don't notice any lag, could have just been some of the earlier updates.
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Just wait for the S23 Ultra release. No more Exynos, no more problems.
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Yeah that's what they said with the S21 Ultra too, wait for the S22U ...,
As usual with Samsung,:
May untill August all the hype comes out ... Major leaks, the best Soc's, displays, next level this and that.
After september the first design leaks come in, along with scrapped next gen tech that will come someday but not with that next Galaxy (Remember Graphene batteries ? AMD killer Gpu's ?? Under display camera ?? Olympus Camera partnership ?? and the list goes on and on)
November we will see SOC hype leaked benchmarks that are killing Apple.
December we will see the dust settle and it turns out the soc isn't all that potent as expected.
January the truth comes out and we see yet again just incremental upgrades and even here and there regression (as usual).
May that year, Rinse and Repeat ......
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Yes, it's lagging everywhwre with every app. Like I type (press the letters) and the letter popup shows after a while, eventually several popups shows at once. Sometimes I press a menu or menu item and I wait till it triggers the action. Using task manager to switch to another/previous app is also lagging. As I say....it is everywhere.
A restart solves it till it appears again.
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Sounds like a duff unit. I have the exynos and no issues at all.
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Yea I am from Germany. Only able to get Exynos
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Same problem here. Also from germany with the exynos version. Pretty annoying and my pixel 6 pro was much smoother.
Upgraded to a S22 Ultra last week, and I am experiencing no lag at all. US, on VZW.
So far everything about this phone absolutely rocks. Super fast, beautiful display, zero issues so far. I got the 256GB SSD/12GB RAM model.
Ok , seems I also have some problems , after the last update i made my gpu it's over 70% all the time and also I have problems with lag and hy temperature. I also tried to boot in safe mode but it's also not working properly. And it was usually eating like 1.5% /hour in stand by but now I see also 4.5% ...
Also when I open some apps with are cpu/gpu demanding it's crashing .
Does
hamad138 said:
s22 Ultra will lag ever be fixed ?
I want to buy this Phone but in my Store it lagged so much.
Is there hope for one UI 5 or is this a wishful thinking ? Why is Pixel 6 Pro much more smooth with a weaker CPU
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In the store it probably has old firmware. If it's exynos I heard updates fixed tons of issues with it but you will NOT see that in store. They usually have a 1.0 firmware and can't update it. But I may be wrong. Check a real phone, not the demo phone maybe you will like it more.
I have a snapdragon version and it has no lag at all. The only lag I have is shutter lag in the camera which is a pitty.
Cheers.
No lag here and I had a P6P couple weeks ago.